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Edited to include M Lynch injury in updated Buffalobills.com post. Original post said Jackson was also the one with the ankle injury.
man, what a fall it's been for lynch.everybody used to be scooping him up at drafts screaming, "BEEEEAAASSST MODE!!!!!!!", and now he can't even get bolded.
Hi TF,Looks like you just signed up in February so you probably didn't know but the Shark Pool really frowns on cheering when players get hurt. We understand you might own Spiller or Lynch and perhaps that helps your team out but it also could cripple another owner's team and in general we try not to cheer it on here. A better way to discuss it would be something like "If Fred Jackson misses time, maybe this will mean Lynch actually stays in Buffalo." or "With this unfortunate news I guess we'll see more of CJ SPiller than we first anticipated." Like I said this looks like your 1st preseason here at the SP, welcome aboard. We just try not to jump up and down when players go down because it could always be your team that gets hit next. Cheers
He's just telling him how it is since he's new.
You've just been anti-Spiller from the start. Did he shoot your puppy?You're really going to say 4 for 16 in the preseason is bad?Cris Carter: "Come on man!"
Just trying to save everyone's FF team...a mix between a Reggie Bush and Darren McFadden. Yall will see.Did I lie....it was the worst YPC of all the Bills RB's.
It's called human decency. It's way unclool to cheer for an injury to another. This board is built on being decent to each other. There are other boards out there where applauding an injury is common place as well as a great deal of negative dooshbaggery towards other board members. I see you're new here too. Be cool to others here and you'll do just fine....
from MOP and The Fanatic. Always appreciate Tater as well.
I think you misspelled, "oops, I'm sorry, I didn't realize people acted with some decency here and I'll try to do so from now on".
of a thread....
also a tremendous amount of #####ing and thread hijacking.but doesn't everything?
Lighten up Francis...
Some get it, some don't.It takes effort to foster a feeling of good will among posters and it is worth the effort. I much prefer the posts that discuss player's skill and utilization over those with personal attacks.I concur with thefrom MOP and The Fanatic. Always appreciate Tater as well.Welcome to the board TitansFan!
As for the topic at hand: Fred Jackson came in handy for me last Season, and this OffSeason, after the Bills drafted Spiller, I took another look at him vs Lynch vs Spiller, and came away with the impression that, all other things being equal, that Jackson would get the lion's share of touches out of the Bills RB stable, and be reasonably productive enough with them to consistently post solid RB2-3 Stats with opportunity for sporadic RB1-2 efforts...an ideal Flex, and especially Best Ball Format RB, especially where you can acquire him. Due largely to the fact that Your Average Joe overvalues rookies with impressive collegiate resumes who have never logged a single regular season NFL down (Spiller), and known commodities (Lynch) have their own independent value, Fred was available at a bargain price prior to last night's injury, and now he's going to come even cheaper.I LOVED CJSpiller in College. I'd love to see him perform well in the NFL. I'm just not convinced yet that he's the kind of Player who can 'create his own shot', and with this incarnation of the Bills Offense for 2010, I think it's going to take some time for him to have a significant statistical impact. I don't think Buffalo is going to be a very good Team this Season. That tells me that for a Player to have statistical relevance, he's not only going to have to have talent, but the mental toughness to give optimal effort through many long Sundays. That can be tough on vets, but even more so on Rookies, most of whom are faced with circumstances they've NEVER faced, from a success standpoint, in their entire careers. We don't know if Spiller's got the willpower to sustain the kind of punishment a Buffalo RB is going to get dealt, and continue to 'want to' play beyond one's ability down after down, in negative scoreboard situations I think the Bills are going to find themselves in plenty of. It takes a VERY special Player to do that. Fred is that guy. He plays his ### off every single down, no matter the cicumstances/how bad things are, and there's going to be plenty of that in Buffalo this Season. Fred's been there, and done that, and I've seen that he has the talent, and the 'want to'/drive, to make something out of the mess that is Buffalo's Offense. Fred runs 'angry'/with passion/with desire and has a 'me against the world' playing style that I don't think you see very often, 'if it's gonna be, it's up to me', if you will.I could be wrong, but I feel great about where I'm getting Fred in Drafts right now, and am looking forward to getting him even cheaper in upcoming Drafts. He runs hard, blocks, can catch the ball, and puts vigorous effort in every snap he plays, no matter the score, down or distance. Fred has been, and will continue to be, an RB who outperforms his Draft Position, and help your efforts more than hurt them in 2010, IMO.It's not so much going out of your way to acquire Fred, but rather by waiting, and scooping him up later, you can use your earlier picks to strengthen your Roster at other positions, and still get that production long after it should be gone off the board. Value, plain and simple.
You are right, >5.0ypc per rush last year = no value!
This is the way I feel about it too. Spiller will get some time with the first team now. But in the end, Spiller is going to have to prove he can be a bell cow to get the bulk of the carries. jackson has a few years in the league and a great audition last year. Is there a chance Spiller hits the ground running (pun intended) and tears it up and never lets go of the starting job? Sure, but I think it's remote...
Doubt it, 5th maybe. It isnt like fast freddie tore an acl, he'll be back early in the season and a hand injury wont affect his cardio so he can pick right up where he left off.
Jackson was the 12th highest scoring RB in weeks 1-16 in my league.
