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Urban Meyer - Free Agent (2 Viewers)
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I'd like to point out that while Jax Jags are saying their legal counsel was ready to talk to Josh Lambo, if that's true then he definitely reported that Meyer kicked him and I don't think Lambo or any PK in the NFL would lie or report it if it weren't true, He has nothing to gain and in fact could potentially jeopardize a future contract from another team.
This just looks worse and worse, leaks every where and now Lambo blows open the front door and says he doesn't need to hide and perhaps he still has friends within the organization and was leaking some of this stuff out to help his former teammates that feel trapped.
I applaud Lambo coming forward and not waiting 3 more years one day when he is being interviewed and tells some wild story about Meyer, this was a perfect time to drop it when the heat is all over this guy. Only add more fuel to an out of control fire in that locker room.
This just looks worse and worse, leaks every where and now Lambo blows open the front door and says he doesn't need to hide and perhaps he still has friends within the organization and was leaking some of this stuff out to help his former teammates that feel trapped.
I applaud Lambo coming forward and not waiting 3 more years one day when he is being interviewed and tells some wild story about Meyer, this was a perfect time to drop it when the heat is all over this guy. Only add more fuel to an out of control fire in that locker room.
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Banger
Footballguy
It’s funny that there are half a dozen stories and they are all false. Kind of like when he was caught grinding with that woman. He denied it until the video came out. Dude is a complete liar and this won’t be the last thing to come out. There’s blood in the water and people want to take him down because he’s a bad guy.
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JaxBill
Footballguy
NFLPA
Member was assaulted by club personnel on club premises during a club mandated workout.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
A. Union of the Snake
B. Player's Union
C. Owner's Union
D. Union Bank
Which one do you think it might be?
JaxBill
Footballguy
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Ah, got it. Didn't realize you were specifically referring to the Lambo incident, and I was like, "Does he think there's a coaches' union that Meyer is a part of?"
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Remember when Montreal sent their lousy owner to Miami which sent that owner to Boston...WFT need to send Snyder to Jax...Khan can come down to Miami, couldn't do any worse than Ross, and then Ross can go take over the WFT and name them after his alma mater, that's right folks it's the Washington Wolverines, Hugh Jackman will immediately become a minority owner in the franchise.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Jags fans must be praying that Meyer follows the example of every other person associated with the NFL this week and gets Covid. "Are you sure you're OK, Urban? You still look a little pale. Why don't you continue quarantining for a few more weeks, just to be safe."
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
wgoldsph
Footballguy
Yeah for some reason I missed an extra 0, but two extra 0's does seem more likely.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Future Headlines in Jacksonsville...
-Players test positive for Covid-19, Meyer sucker punches them
-Waterboy reports unwelcome touching when delivering liquid refreshments
-Parking Lot attendant reports Meyer forced him to park Cayman Nebraska's car ACROSS from the stadium.
-Team Pilot said Meyer always wanted to bring women into the cockpit for one on one life coaching.
-Players test positive for Covid-19, Meyer sucker punches them
-Waterboy reports unwelcome touching when delivering liquid refreshments
-Parking Lot attendant reports Meyer forced him to park Cayman Nebraska's car ACROSS from the stadium.
-Team Pilot said Meyer always wanted to bring women into the cockpit for one on one life coaching.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
- Cheerleaders report sexual harassment when Meyer tells them to "dress sluttier" in order to "distract other teams," while licking his lips and winking repeatedly.
- Meyer gives Lawrence a purple nurple for each errant pass during practice. "How else do you think I win so much?!? It's the only thing these kids fear!" Meyer shouts at resulting press conference.
- Meyer blames qb coach for playing Josh Allen on defense.
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ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Kind of crazy to fire a coach on a Wednesday night when you have a game on Sunday. Makes me wonder if yet one more shoe is about to drop. But more likely they just reached a point where there was no point in continuing.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Good riddance. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Is it? What exactly was he contributing that an interim couldn't pick up the slack of (and probably even do better) in a few days time?
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Wonder if the Lambo stuff sticks if they can void his contract
rockaction
Footballguy
this was so easy to see from the beginning. Guy has no business being around football players. The college game is such a suspect power structure I can barely watch it knowing who profits. It’s a joke. pay them their gosh darn money.
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ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Oh yeah, smart guy? Well who's going to monitor Andre Cisco's defensive snaps this weekend with Meyer gone?
My point was usually mid-season firings take place on a Monday. Unusual for it to happen on a Wednesday night, and there could be a reason for the timing. But like I said, it was probably just that the situation had become untenable.
rockaction
Footballguy
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
You have to wonder what this means for the career of Travis Etienne.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
There's a long list of guys that were simply incompetent with a dash of buffoonery as head coaches. You know, the Mike Tice type.
But in discussing guys who did it with a healthy dose of ###-holery there are two names at the top of the list with Urban joining Bobby Petrino.
But in discussing guys who did it with a healthy dose of ###-holery there are two names at the top of the list with Urban joining Bobby Petrino.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
How? The guy that is married to him just left the altar with divorce papers in hand. I don’t see how a guy that is noted for problems running between the tackles benefits from a new, neutral coaching staff with James Robinson there, especially coming straight off of a Lisfranc injury.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
They wanted to go the other direction. Wayne Fontes is on his way for the press conference tomorrow morning.
rockaction
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Sad thing is, casual observers of this like MoP, Andy, Capella, and I knew this was a disaster waiting to happen. Heck, I knew he was going to draft a running back in the first round with his second pick. You just knew it. This guy couldn't help himself. How on earth does a guy running a NFL franchise that made his money in business not know a swindle when he sees it?
A bad idea. A disaster. So many heads had to be in the sand while vetting this hire that it's almost some sort of professional malfeasance.
This guy had so many reas0ns why he would just be a l0ser in the pro ranks. It's not like they hired a guy with the temperament for this. This guy was complaining about free agency and NFL protocol on Day One. His first acts as head coach were to complain about tampering.
This guy was brutal. MoP had this dialed from the beginning.
A bad idea. A disaster. So many heads had to be in the sand while vetting this hire that it's almost some sort of professional malfeasance.
This guy had so many reas0ns why he would just be a l0ser in the pro ranks. It's not like they hired a guy with the temperament for this. This guy was complaining about free agency and NFL protocol on Day One. His first acts as head coach were to complain about tampering.
This guy was brutal. MoP had this dialed from the beginning.
rockaction
Footballguy
No, I had and would have drafted Etienne in dynasty in the 3-5 range. I picked Chase in one league where I traded 1.4 and 2.4 for 1.01 and took Harris in a different league with 1.02 from a dispersal draft. Those guys I took ahead of him, and he went four in a league where I owned five. I just don't see how this helps him when his biggest backer and the guy with the most professional skin in the game isn't there anymore and he has deficiencies, according to some like Waldman.Okay. If you didn't like Etienne before, you won't like him now.
I think he's an exceptional athlete. I just think his situation got a whole lot more cloudy.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
I had to look it up to get the joke, but it seems like that was a great character from a good show that I missed out on.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
IMO, it's simple. If you believe he's talented then that will come through when he gets what will assuredly be a better coach.
Just because Meyer was a bad coach doesn't mean he got the talent wrong.
rockaction
Footballguy
I think my main concern is that it seems he needs experience, seasoning, and to learn a few things about running in the pro game and I'm a little skeptical that a coach is going to give a running back that sort of adjustment period when he has Robinson, who obviously is seasoned.
That's true, but I also didn't mean to say nor imply that just because he was a bad coach that he evaluated talent wrong.
And even if I were to stick with the contention that Meyer picked him a little too highly in the draft for Jacksonville's needs, Etienne still might be an excellent talent deserving of a starting role.
I really didn't address either issue, nor imply it. I simply wondered what happened when Etienne's biggest backer and betrothed is gone.
But I take your points. If the talent is there, it'll shine. If you believe in it, stick with it. Both points are sound.
I'm really just trying to spark discussion.
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The General
Footballguy
I’m sure there are others out there but has there been a bigger flame out coach hire? Urban has to have vaulted to a pretty high spot on that list.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Dang it, we had more jokes.
doeseatplace
Footballguy
As Jags fans, we’re used to losing and being the butt of jokes. It comes with the territory in NE FLA
But Turban made me actually dislike my own team and no longer care.
FTG.
But Turban made me actually dislike my own team and no longer care.
FTG.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Lucky #13: Urban Meyer joins fellow college coaches Lou Holtz and Bobby Petrino in not making it through their first NFL seasons. Holtz of the Jets and Petrino (Falcons) were also gone after 13 games. 
rockaction
Footballguy
Lou Holtz believed that professionals should be singing fight songs in the locker room.Lucky #13: Urban Meyer joins fellow college coaches Lou Holtz and Bobby Petrino in not making it through their first NFL seasons. Holtz of the Jets and Petrino (Falcons) were also gone after 13 games.
These guys. You can't make them up.
This is my second experience watching a fan base fire a coach the day he was hired. Steve Spurrier was the same.
I never understood the venom for Meyer in the spring. The guy won how many games before he took the job?
Spurrier was absurd. He's never coached at the professional level, umm he did in the USFL. He will never...NFL teams have switched and still use his 3 WR sets. It was a two back set before him.
Y'all were angry Tebow- one of the nicest guys ever- was a camp body.
Bevell said he pulled Robinson, Meyer says he doesn't micromanage and omg y'all still blame Meyer.
We all knew the Jags would stink but this whole omg he didn't win....that's something else.
My favorite is the story of a private meeting between he and his staff where he called the staff of a team with a losing record, losers. Y'all did but he's ridiculous for doing so? There are 10k coach meetings every year and zero info gets out but this one is leaked? Oh and how dare he say whoever leaked it will be fired.
The guy wasn't awesome and I'm not saying he should be this or that and I'm sure not his supporter but...really people? Really?
Y'all got so away from football. Where's the discussion about their free agency and draft and how it's turned out? How is Lawrence doing? Do they have a defense? Ya can't tell by discussions this year.
This sooo odd.
So do the Jags hire another former Bills coach? Are we forgetting they were a decent team and blew it up? They were the worst team in football last year and I'd bet a ton of money this off-season is blaming Urban for their demise.
I don't wonder why Stoops hasn't coached in the NFL anymore
I never understood the venom for Meyer in the spring. The guy won how many games before he took the job?
Spurrier was absurd. He's never coached at the professional level, umm he did in the USFL. He will never...NFL teams have switched and still use his 3 WR sets. It was a two back set before him.
Y'all were angry Tebow- one of the nicest guys ever- was a camp body.
Bevell said he pulled Robinson, Meyer says he doesn't micromanage and omg y'all still blame Meyer.
We all knew the Jags would stink but this whole omg he didn't win....that's something else.
My favorite is the story of a private meeting between he and his staff where he called the staff of a team with a losing record, losers. Y'all did but he's ridiculous for doing so? There are 10k coach meetings every year and zero info gets out but this one is leaked? Oh and how dare he say whoever leaked it will be fired.
The guy wasn't awesome and I'm not saying he should be this or that and I'm sure not his supporter but...really people? Really?
Y'all got so away from football. Where's the discussion about their free agency and draft and how it's turned out? How is Lawrence doing? Do they have a defense? Ya can't tell by discussions this year.
This sooo odd.
So do the Jags hire another former Bills coach? Are we forgetting they were a decent team and blew it up? They were the worst team in football last year and I'd bet a ton of money this off-season is blaming Urban for their demise.
I don't wonder why Stoops hasn't coached in the NFL anymore
