US Men's National Team (38 Viewers)

[The Z Machine]

He also came out and said that Pulisic needs to be America's Messi. Not exactly sure what he means by that.

Struggling to win trophies for country, quitting the team after pouting about a loss, coming back to the national team, then winning the big enchilada when your ******* goalie gets in the head of opposition penalty takers?

 

[BassNBrew]

He also came out and said that Pulisic needs to be America's Messi. Not exactly sure what he means by that.

He was when GGG was in charge.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I'm honestly just totally apathetic at this point. All the hope and enthusiasm I had for this group has just evaporated over the past year.

 

[El Floppo]

He also came out and said that Pulisic needs to be America's Messi. Not exactly sure what he means by that.

He IS America's Messi.

But obviously not in the same GOAT in history of the world conversation... Through no fault of his own.

 

[NewlyRetired]

He also came out and said that Pulisic needs to be America's Messi. Not exactly sure what he means by that.

He IS America's Messi.

But obviously not in the same GOAT in history of the world conversation... Through no fault of his own.

IMO, he is the best US player ever at the club level.

I do not think he has done enough with the Nats, yet, to take the mantle from Donovan (or Dempsey either).

 

[El Floppo]

He also came out and said that Pulisic needs to be America's Messi. Not exactly sure what he means by that.

He IS America's Messi.

But obviously not in the same GOAT in history of the world conversation... Through no fault of his own.

IMO, he is the best US player ever at the club level.

I do not think he has done enough with the Nats, yet, to take the mantle from Donovan (or Dempsey either).

At 26, had Messi stolen the crown from Diego?

 

[NewlyRetired]

He also came out and said that Pulisic needs to be America's Messi. Not exactly sure what he means by that.

He IS America's Messi.

But obviously not in the same GOAT in history of the world conversation... Through no fault of his own.

IMO, he is the best US player ever at the club level.

I do not think he has done enough with the Nats, yet, to take the mantle from Donovan (or Dempsey either).

At 26, had Messi stolen the crown from Diego?

No, at least not at the international level.

That is why I used the word “yet” in my comment about Pulisic. I am hopeful that he will eventually become the clear GOAT for the nats.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Steffen has left camp, and returned to Colorado after hurting his knee in camp.

 

[El Floppo]

Steffen has left camp, and returned to Colorado after hurting his knee in camp.

Well sure. That's how the summer seems to be going for the USMNT.

Some good results with some good play would go a LONG ways to making me feel anything other than... Bleh.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Michael Bradley has joined the Canadian National team coaching staff. I think this is just a temporary gig, and may be for just this summer.

 

[NewlyRetired]

The US U18's are in a tournament with France, Argentina, Portugal, Australia, Senegal, Japan and Uruguay.

The US had their first game today against France. They coughed up a second half 2-0 lead over France, to end up 2-2. I assume there are no draws in this tournament because the game went to PK's and the US won.

Next up is Argentina. Last group stage game is against Australia.

US won their second game, against Argentina, 2-0.

 

[El Floppo]

The US U18's are in a tournament with France, Argentina, Portugal, Australia, Senegal, Japan and Uruguay.

The US had their first game today against France. They coughed up a second half 2-0 lead over France, to end up 2-2. I assume there are no draws in this tournament because the game went to PK's and the US won.

Next up is Argentina. Last group stage game is against Australia.

US won their second game, against Argentina, 2-0.

Those are some solid results!

I'll take it!

 

[The Z Machine]

PFFT, like France and Argentina are quality. Call me when the baby Nats beat the Faroes.

 

[TLEF316]

Yeah....talk to me 7 years from now when we confirm that this U18 generation didnt turn out to be a bunch of no-grit softies.

 

[TennesseeJed]

My new favorite USMNT player

Poch on Luna:

Mauricio Pochetino to
@UnfilteredSoccr
on Diego Luna:

"When Diego in the game in Orlando received an elbow in his nose, I saw he was like this… blood. And the doctor said to me (take him out). But he (Luna) said, 'Coach I want to play.' I said, 'But it’s a friendly game. Diego it’s a friendly game. Your nose.' I didn’t want to worry him. But I was like scared you know, it was like this (bleeding and broken), but it was amazing. And he convinced the doctor, 'Doctor, I can play. If you allow me to play, I want to play. Coach, I want to play.' And then in the half time, we’ll see. And then goes… fight. Crash with one guy after one was one of these. And then take the ball. Assist. That is what I want. It’s not a, 'Ah, Ciao.' No, that is what I want. That is the mentality. That is that you feel that the players play for nothing more than the pride to be a player. To defend their shirt."




Thats my guy! Give him the armband!

 

[bagger]

Maybe Sargent wants to focus on club right now? Or Poch wants to send some sort of message to the whole group and had made his decision based on previous behavior in camp.

Sargent is terrible. I applaud Poch coming to the obvious realization that Sargent will not be an impact player and knows what he has with him. No point in bringing Sargent in.

 

[NewlyRetired]

My new favorite USMNT player

Poch on Luna:

Mauricio Pochetino to
@UnfilteredSoccr
on Diego Luna:

"When Diego in the game in Orlando received an elbow in his nose, I saw he was like this… blood. And the doctor said to me (take him out). But he (Luna) said, 'Coach I want to play.' I said, 'But it’s a friendly game. Diego it’s a friendly game. Your nose.' I didn’t want to worry him. But I was like scared you know, it was like this (bleeding and broken), but it was amazing. And he convinced the doctor, 'Doctor, I can play. If you allow me to play, I want to play. Coach, I want to play.' And then in the half time, we’ll see. And then goes… fight. Crash with one guy after one was one of these. And then take the ball. Assist. That is what I want. It’s not a, 'Ah, Ciao.' No, that is what I want. That is the mentality. That is that you feel that the players play for nothing more than the pride to be a player. To defend their shirt."




Thats my guy! Give him the armband!

He is one of the few guys I will really be focusing on this summer.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Turner to Lyon is the new rumor today.

Honestly I don’t really care where he goes as long as he plays.

 

[encaitar]

Turner to Lyon is the new rumor today.

Honestly I don’t really care where he goes as long as he plays.

Seems like a good spot. If he can't get game time there, then he doesn't deserve the US spot either IMO. If he does get game time and gets back into form, it would be great timing for us.

 

[The Z Machine]

Maybe Sargent wants to focus on club right now? Or Poch wants to send some sort of message to the whole group and had made his decision based on previous behavior in camp.

Sargent is terrible. I applaud Poch coming to the obvious realization that Sargent will not be an impact player and knows what he has with him. No point in bringing Sargent in.

Feels harsh, although I don't disagree with the sentiment... The guy has put in a very good season, scoring a lot of goals for his club. Ignoring that seems... risky.

 

[El Floppo]

Maybe Sargent wants to focus on club right now? Or Poch wants to send some sort of message to the whole group and had made his decision based on previous behavior in camp.

Sargent is terrible. I applaud Poch coming to the obvious realization that Sargent will not be an impact player and knows what he has with him. No point in bringing Sargent in.

Feels harsh, although I don't disagree with the sentiment... The guy has put in a very good season, scoring a lot of goals for his club. Ignoring that seems... risky.

I have to lol at the hyperbole.

Sargent is a very solid pro. Does all the hard work off the ball that teams need up front on both sides of the ball. If he's knocking in goals on top of that? Really worthwhile player. If he's not...kinda worthwhile if the system is set up to get other people scoring. Not so worthwhile if he's THE guy (and he's not scoring).

His athletic/physical shortcomings have been discussed ad nauseum.. not blazing fast or quick, not super strong on the ball or amazing in the air. Not tippy top one on one. He's a guy with elite soccer IQ who uses his tools to get himself in the right spots to score (and do all the mentioned dirty work). And he's scored a boatload this season. Saying he's Terrible? To me, more a reflection on the person saying it, than on him.

 

[zoobird]

Maybe Sargent wants to focus on club right now? Or Poch wants to send some sort of message to the whole group and had made his decision based on previous behavior in camp.

Sargent is terrible. I applaud Poch coming to the obvious realization that Sargent will not be an impact player and knows what he has with him. No point in bringing Sargent in.

Feels harsh, although I don't disagree with the sentiment... The guy has put in a very good season, scoring a lot of goals for his club. Ignoring that seems... risky.

I have to lol at the hyperbole.

Sargent is a very solid pro. Does all the hard work off the ball that teams need up front on both sides of the ball. If he's knocking in goals on top of that? Really worthwhile player. If he's not...kinda worthwhile if the system is set up to get other people scoring. Not so worthwhile if he's THE guy (and he's not scoring).

His athletic/physical shortcomings have been discussed ad nauseum.. not blazing fast or quick, not super strong on the ball or amazing in the air. Not tippy top one on one. He's a guy with elite soccer IQ who uses his tools to get himself in the right spots to score (and do all the mentioned dirty work). And he's scored a boatload this season. Saying he's Terrible? To me, more a reflection on the person saying it, than on him.

Related to this - I think people tend to way overrate the importance of very small sample sizes of performance with the national team vs. the importance of large sample sizes of performance with club teams. In general, the guy who has excelled 40 games per year with club is a better bet to be good for USMNT in the future, then someone who has excelled for USMNT in a handful of games in the past.

Yes...how well they fit the system and the players around them might affect that, but it's still so easy to be misled in a small sample of games.

I'm not so much saying that as an argument in Sargent's favor, but dismissing a guy like Tillman because he hasn't been great for USMNT is just ridiculous. And it's also easy to get carried away with a guy like Luna (who I like a lot) based on literally one half of one game.

 

[BassNBrew]

Maybe Sargent wants to focus on club right now? Or Poch wants to send some sort of message to the whole group and had made his decision based on previous behavior in camp.

Sargent is terrible. I applaud Poch coming to the obvious realization that Sargent will not be an impact player and knows what he has with him. No point in bringing Sargent in.

Feels harsh, although I don't disagree with the sentiment... The guy has put in a very good season, scoring a lot of goals for his club. Ignoring that seems... risky.

I have to lol at the hyperbole.

Sargent is a very solid pro. Does all the hard work off the ball that teams need up front on both sides of the ball. If he's knocking in goals on top of that? Really worthwhile player. If he's not...kinda worthwhile if the system is set up to get other people scoring. Not so worthwhile if he's THE guy (and he's not scoring).

His athletic/physical shortcomings have been discussed ad nauseum.. not blazing fast or quick, not super strong on the ball or amazing in the air. Not tippy top one on one. He's a guy with elite soccer IQ who uses his tools to get himself in the right spots to score (and do all the mentioned dirty work). And he's scored a boatload this season. Saying he's Terrible? To me, more a reflection on the person saying it, than on him.

I read that as he's been terrible for the Natty's. Anyone who has played college soccer or even high level club isn't "terrible" in general.

 

[BassNBrew]

Maybe Sargent wants to focus on club right now? Or Poch wants to send some sort of message to the whole group and had made his decision based on previous behavior in camp.

Sargent is terrible. I applaud Poch coming to the obvious realization that Sargent will not be an impact player and knows what he has with him. No point in bringing Sargent in.

Feels harsh, although I don't disagree with the sentiment... The guy has put in a very good season, scoring a lot of goals for his club. Ignoring that seems... risky.

I have to lol at the hyperbole.

Sargent is a very solid pro. Does all the hard work off the ball that teams need up front on both sides of the ball. If he's knocking in goals on top of that? Really worthwhile player. If he's not...kinda worthwhile if the system is set up to get other people scoring. Not so worthwhile if he's THE guy (and he's not scoring).

His athletic/physical shortcomings have been discussed ad nauseum.. not blazing fast or quick, not super strong on the ball or amazing in the air. Not tippy top one on one. He's a guy with elite soccer IQ who uses his tools to get himself in the right spots to score (and do all the mentioned dirty work). And he's scored a boatload this season. Saying he's Terrible? To me, more a reflection on the person saying it, than on him.

Related to this - I think people tend to way overrate the importance of very small sample sizes of performance with the national team vs. the importance of large sample sizes of performance with club teams. In general, the guy who has excelled 40 games per year with club is a better bet to be good for USMNT in the future, then someone who has excelled for USMNT in a handful of games in the past.

Yes...how well they fit the system and the players around them might affect that, but it's still so easy to be misled in a small sample of games.

I'm not so much saying that as an argument in Sargent's favor, but dismissing a guy like Tillman because he hasn't been great for USMNT is just ridiculous. And it's also easy to get carried away with a guy like Luna (who I like a lot) based on literally one half of one game.

IMO he needs to be competing at a higher level to truly determine if the rubber meets the road.

 

[El Floppo]

Maybe Sargent wants to focus on club right now? Or Poch wants to send some sort of message to the whole group and had made his decision based on previous behavior in camp.

Sargent is terrible. I applaud Poch coming to the obvious realization that Sargent will not be an impact player and knows what he has with him. No point in bringing Sargent in.

Feels harsh, although I don't disagree with the sentiment... The guy has put in a very good season, scoring a lot of goals for his club. Ignoring that seems... risky.

I have to lol at the hyperbole.

Sargent is a very solid pro. Does all the hard work off the ball that teams need up front on both sides of the ball. If he's knocking in goals on top of that? Really worthwhile player. If he's not...kinda worthwhile if the system is set up to get other people scoring. Not so worthwhile if he's THE guy (and he's not scoring).

His athletic/physical shortcomings have been discussed ad nauseum.. not blazing fast or quick, not super strong on the ball or amazing in the air. Not tippy top one on one. He's a guy with elite soccer IQ who uses his tools to get himself in the right spots to score (and do all the mentioned dirty work). And he's scored a boatload this season. Saying he's Terrible? To me, more a reflection on the person saying it, than on him.

I read that as he's been terrible for the Natty's. Anyone who has played college soccer or even high level club isn't "terrible" in general.

he hasn't been terrible for the US.

 

[El Floppo]

Maybe Sargent wants to focus on club right now? Or Poch wants to send some sort of message to the whole group and had made his decision based on previous behavior in camp.

Sargent is terrible. I applaud Poch coming to the obvious realization that Sargent will not be an impact player and knows what he has with him. No point in bringing Sargent in.

Feels harsh, although I don't disagree with the sentiment... The guy has put in a very good season, scoring a lot of goals for his club. Ignoring that seems... risky.

I have to lol at the hyperbole.

Sargent is a very solid pro. Does all the hard work off the ball that teams need up front on both sides of the ball. If he's knocking in goals on top of that? Really worthwhile player. If he's not...kinda worthwhile if the system is set up to get other people scoring. Not so worthwhile if he's THE guy (and he's not scoring).

His athletic/physical shortcomings have been discussed ad nauseum.. not blazing fast or quick, not super strong on the ball or amazing in the air. Not tippy top one on one. He's a guy with elite soccer IQ who uses his tools to get himself in the right spots to score (and do all the mentioned dirty work). And he's scored a boatload this season. Saying he's Terrible? To me, more a reflection on the person saying it, than on him.

Related to this - I think people tend to way overrate the importance of very small sample sizes of performance with the national team vs. the importance of large sample sizes of performance with club teams. In general, the guy who has excelled 40 games per year with club is a better bet to be good for USMNT in the future, then someone who has excelled for USMNT in a handful of games in the past.

Yes...how well they fit the system and the players around them might affect that, but it's still so easy to be misled in a small sample of games.

I'm not so much saying that as an argument in Sargent's favor, but dismissing a guy like Tillman because he hasn't been great for USMNT is just ridiculous. And it's also easy to get carried away with a guy like Luna (who I like a lot) based on literally one half of one game.

IMO he needs to be competing at a higher level to truly determine if the rubber meets the road.

Agreed. Can he still score goals in the EPL? or another top division somewhere else (besides Holland)

 

[El Floppo]

And... sarges goals for Nor have mostly been from in and around the 6. They are doing something well to get the ball in to him in those spots that I haven't seen from the US (for Sarge or anybody else).

 

[bagger]

Maybe Sargent wants to focus on club right now? Or Poch wants to send some sort of message to the whole group and had made his decision based on previous behavior in camp.

Sargent is terrible. I applaud Poch coming to the obvious realization that Sargent will not be an impact player and knows what he has with him. No point in bringing Sargent in.

Feels harsh, although I don't disagree with the sentiment... The guy has put in a very good season, scoring a lot of goals for his club. Ignoring that seems... risky.

I have to lol at the hyperbole.

Sargent is a very solid pro. Does all the hard work off the ball that teams need up front on both sides of the ball. If he's knocking in goals on top of that? Really worthwhile player. If he's not...kinda worthwhile if the system is set up to get other people scoring. Not so worthwhile if he's THE guy (and he's not scoring).

His athletic/physical shortcomings have been discussed ad nauseum.. not blazing fast or quick, not super strong on the ball or amazing in the air. Not tippy top one on one. He's a guy with elite soccer IQ who uses his tools to get himself in the right spots to score (and do all the mentioned dirty work). And he's scored a boatload this season. Saying he's Terrible? To me, more a reflection on the person saying it, than on him.

I read that as he's been terrible for the Natty's. Anyone who has played college soccer or even high level club isn't "terrible" in general.

he hasn't been terrible for the US.

I would disagree. He never finishes on the US team. I would take multiple people over him at that position.

 

[bagger]

Maybe Sargent wants to focus on club right now? Or Poch wants to send some sort of message to the whole group and had made his decision based on previous behavior in camp.

Sargent is terrible. I applaud Poch coming to the obvious realization that Sargent will not be an impact player and knows what he has with him. No point in bringing Sargent in.

Feels harsh, although I don't disagree with the sentiment... The guy has put in a very good season, scoring a lot of goals for his club. Ignoring that seems... risky.

I have to lol at the hyperbole.

Sargent is a very solid pro. Does all the hard work off the ball that teams need up front on both sides of the ball. If he's knocking in goals on top of that? Really worthwhile player. If he's not...kinda worthwhile if the system is set up to get other people scoring. Not so worthwhile if he's THE guy (and he's not scoring).

His athletic/physical shortcomings have been discussed ad nauseum.. not blazing fast or quick, not super strong on the ball or amazing in the air. Not tippy top one on one. He's a guy with elite soccer IQ who uses his tools to get himself in the right spots to score (and do all the mentioned dirty work). And he's scored a boatload this season. Saying he's Terrible? To me, more a reflection on the person saying it, than on him.

I read that as he's been terrible for the Natty's. Anyone who has played college soccer or even high level club isn't "terrible" in general.

Well obviously.

 

[El Floppo]

Maybe Sargent wants to focus on club right now? Or Poch wants to send some sort of message to the whole group and had made his decision based on previous behavior in camp.

Sargent is terrible. I applaud Poch coming to the obvious realization that Sargent will not be an impact player and knows what he has with him. No point in bringing Sargent in.

Feels harsh, although I don't disagree with the sentiment... The guy has put in a very good season, scoring a lot of goals for his club. Ignoring that seems... risky.

I have to lol at the hyperbole.

Sargent is a very solid pro. Does all the hard work off the ball that teams need up front on both sides of the ball. If he's knocking in goals on top of that? Really worthwhile player. If he's not...kinda worthwhile if the system is set up to get other people scoring. Not so worthwhile if he's THE guy (and he's not scoring).

His athletic/physical shortcomings have been discussed ad nauseum.. not blazing fast or quick, not super strong on the ball or amazing in the air. Not tippy top one on one. He's a guy with elite soccer IQ who uses his tools to get himself in the right spots to score (and do all the mentioned dirty work). And he's scored a boatload this season. Saying he's Terrible? To me, more a reflection on the person saying it, than on him.

I read that as he's been terrible for the Natty's. Anyone who has played college soccer or even high level club isn't "terrible" in general.

he hasn't been terrible for the US.

I would disagree. He never finishes on the US team. I would take multiple people over him at that position.

"Never". I'm prone to hyperbole too.. trying to nip it, because for me it weakens rather than strengthens the argument. He scores for the US, and since for a forward, recency is important- he's scored a bunch for his club week in and week out this season. He was named to the starting 11 team of the year for the Championship.

I would take Pepi over him in a heartbeat. Balo... Cripes. What I first saw from him when he came to the US team- definitely. Since then? Illd take Sarge unfortunately...even though Balo has a clearly higher ceiling (that I haven't seen in a long while). Ag? Still has a lot to grow into with the soccer IQ, but I like him as a different option. Haji and Prefok... Meh.

But right now- we're taking White, Ag and ... Somebody else (Downs?)... Instead of a guy scoring lots of goals and named to the team of the year for the Championship. I disagree with those 3 in front of Sarge.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Maybe Sargent wants to focus on club right now? Or Poch wants to send some sort of message to the whole group and had made his decision based on previous behavior in camp.

Sargent is terrible. I applaud Poch coming to the obvious realization that Sargent will not be an impact player and knows what he has with him. No point in bringing Sargent in.

Feels harsh, although I don't disagree with the sentiment... The guy has put in a very good season, scoring a lot of goals for his club. Ignoring that seems... risky.

I have to lol at the hyperbole.

Sargent is a very solid pro. Does all the hard work off the ball that teams need up front on both sides of the ball. If he's knocking in goals on top of that? Really worthwhile player. If he's not...kinda worthwhile if the system is set up to get other people scoring. Not so worthwhile if he's THE guy (and he's not scoring).

His athletic/physical shortcomings have been discussed ad nauseum.. not blazing fast or quick, not super strong on the ball or amazing in the air. Not tippy top one on one. He's a guy with elite soccer IQ who uses his tools to get himself in the right spots to score (and do all the mentioned dirty work). And he's scored a boatload this season. Saying he's Terrible? To me, more a reflection on the person saying it, than on him.

I read that as he's been terrible for the Natty's. Anyone who has played college soccer or even high level club isn't "terrible" in general.

he hasn't been terrible for the US.

He scored five goals in his first 12 appearances for the Nats and hasn't scored a goal in his 16 apperances since. He hasn't scored an international goal since 2019.

Admittedly, appearances have been sporadic due to injuries and other stuff. But he has to break the duck to keep getting chances, IMO. I thought he played pretty well and was unlucky in the World Cup, but I've also seen some really aimless performances out of him at other times when he gets the chance. And I don't have a great explanation because the Championship is a high enough level for me to know he should be serviceable. I don't think he's as good as Pepi or have the potential of Balogun (who has also disappointed me a bit with the Nats), but he should be able to be above a Big Pat or Brian White. But you have to perform.

 

[ChiefD]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

American soccer needs to stop trying to be something we are not. We should be a direct playing kick ball type of team where we send that ball into the box and just create chaos there all day. This playing out of the back the "right way" has cost us our identity.

We used to fight and fight and fight for every last ball on that team. We would defend every square inch of that turf as if our lives depended on it.

Now we look like a bunch of rich kids playing mandy-pandy soccer that doesn't amount to anything.

 

[TLEF316]

Dest out. I just cant at this point

 

[zoobird]

Dest out. I just cant at this point

Was just looking at our current roster. Is Haji Wright the only guy on the roster who plays more than 50% of his club minutes as a wing?

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Union academy represent!

7 players on the roster from YSC

 

[Charlie Steiner]

He scored five goals in his first 12 appearances for the Nats and hasn't scored a goal in his 16 apperances since. He hasn't scored an international goal since 2019.

Admittedly, appearances have been sporadic due to injuries and other stuff. But he has to break the duck to keep getting chances, IMO. I thought he played pretty well and was unlucky in the World Cup, but I've also seen some really aimless performances out of him at other times when he gets the chance. And I don't have a great explanation because the Championship is a high enough level for me to know he should be serviceable. I don't think he's as good as Pepi or have the potential of Balogun (who has also disappointed me a bit with the Nats), but he should be able to be above a Big Pat or Brian White. But you have to perform.

He also seems to have the drive that Poch claims to want. He has done everything asked of him even when it didn't fit his skillset per se. He pressed for GGG even though he was always two steps behind, and his epic clearance against Honduras during the last World Cup Qualifying round was pure hustle and determination. It just seems like Poch is punishing him for lack of results when he believes results come from the very qualities that Josh has shown and what kept getting him called up.

If Poch had said he didn't call up Josh because his style doesn't fit into what Poch is trying to play, that's one thing, but to say he wants players to bleed for the chance like Josh has and then not call him is hypocritical.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Dest out. I just cant at this point

my disappointment never ends.

 

[El Floppo]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

American soccer needs to stop trying to be something we are not. We should be a direct playing kick ball type of team where we send that ball into the box and just create chaos there all day. This playing out of the back the "right way" has cost us our identity.

We used to fight and fight and fight for every last ball on that team. We would defend every square inch of that turf as if our lives depended on it.

Now we look like a bunch of rich kids playing mandy-pandy soccer that doesn't amount to anything.

Part of the problem today... The US team is no longer the disrespected, go straight at them opponent. Regional teams have to play more defensively organized and with respect, which has taken away the previous US approach of hitting off the counter and fighting to hold on. By necessity, they have to play off the front foot.. maintain control and try to break teams down while also not getting caught in transition. Route 1 Lumping the ball forward doesn't work with that.

Yes- they still need to show the same fight the old teams did. And yes, it's disappointing how few set piece or dump it into the box goals they're scoring. And against better teams, I'd love to see them play more direct and not pass the ball square or back as much as they do. I was a big fan of Jesse Marschs NYRB teams that were direct by design. But those teams also took a lot of practice so guys understood collective situational, spacial and tactical awareness..

 

[NewlyRetired]

Here is the full Gold Cup roster for those that can stomach it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GssFM1sXoAAHkDP?format=jpg&name=large

 

[El Floppo]

Dest out. I just cant at this point

Wait... What!?

 

[NewlyRetired]

Dest out. I just cant at this point

Wait... What!?

Poch decided that they are going to train Dest individually during the summer to better rehab the knee

 

[El Floppo]

Here is the full Gold Cup roster for those that can stomach it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GssFM1sXoAAHkDP?format=jpg&name=large

Good looking B team

 

[NewlyRetired]

Here is the full Gold Cup roster for those that can stomach it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GssFM1sXoAAHkDP?format=jpg&name=large

ok based on this roster

Richards, Adams, Johnny and Tillman are the only clear starters. Luna is probably really close to a clear starter.

Almost every other position is going to be a coin flip. Whether that is good or bad I don't yet know. Seeing Tolkin on the roster now after the Dest removal it seems clear that Dest was going to play on the left.

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Who I would start (and not feel good about it):

........................................Turner

Freeman.........McKenzie...........Richards..............Tolkin*

.................................Johnny.......Adams

Paxten*.............................Luna...............................Tillman

..................................White*


*I think Poch will start Brenden, Arfsten and Haji in these spots.

 

[El Floppo]

Dest out. I just cant at this point

Wait... What!?

Poch decided that they are going to train Dest individually during the summer to better rehab the knee

I mean... He was already cleared and playing for PSV in huge games down the stretch. Rehab the knee? Did he reinjure it? Last I saw he went 90 in the final clinching game of the season.. didn't get subbed out iirc. What changed?

 

[NewlyRetired]

Here is the full Gold Cup roster for those that can stomach it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GssFM1sXoAAHkDP?format=jpg&name=large

Good looking B team

The list of whose missing is annoying, to say the least (and I don't even think some of these missing should have been called to be fair)

Pulisic, Musah, Gio, Weston, Weah, Steffen, Dest, Balogun and Jedi

 

[NewlyRetired]

What changed?

I have no idea. Here are the exact words from Poch

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GssOWTnWYAEeRlo?format=jpg&name=large

 

[Charlie Steiner]

Here is the full Gold Cup roster for those that can stomach it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GssFM1sXoAAHkDP?format=jpg&name=large

You know what I do like about this group? There will be no standing around waiting for Pulisic to do something.

That's not a negative comment about CP, just that often times in sports, when a superstar player is no longer around, the rest of the players step up.

Also, there are a few personal favorites still there:

Turner: never in consideration for an all time great US keeper, but to me he's mostly played above expectations and been the right keeper for the times.
Ream: proof that slow and steady wins the race.
Miles Robinson: glad he's still battling after injury redirected his trajectory.
Tyler Adams: the baby-faced assassin.

And I look forward to seeing Luna on an international stage.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Union academy represent!

7 players on the roster from YSC

actually 8 I think. People forget Brian White was in the Union system for a while. Could have been 9 had Steffen not gotten hurt.

Both Aaronson's, McKenzie, McGlynn, Freese, Quinn, Harriel and White if I am correct looking at the roster.

 

[El Floppo]

No Dest suuuucks.

But- happy to see JRR in there

 

[NewlyRetired]

Looks like Johnny is getting closer. From what I understand he will not miss the Gold Cup no matter what happens here, I think due to AM needing to wait for the Spurs exclusion period to officially expire. Of course with every thing that keeps happening, no one should be shocked if AM find a way around this and bring him to the CWC instead

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Atlético Madrid have reached an agreement with Johnny Cardoso on personal terms and advancing in talks to get deal done with Real Betis.Package deal around €30m with bonuses and also potential players as part of the agreement now being discussed.