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I'd like to see the US open it up for the last 20, instead of slow it down. I know they don't need to, but ####...they're playing against Guyana. Let's USWNT this.

 
Boyd looking to cement his place at RW.  He's had a great game.  A little better playing by the guys around him and he'd have 3-4 assists tonight too.

 
encaitar said:
Boyd looking to cement his place at RW.  He's had a great game.  A little better playing by the guys around him and he'd have 3-4 assists tonight too.
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Great game going forward. Useless game defending.

With CP and Jozy/zardoz... Can we afford another attack only player against even the T&Ts, let alone Panama, let alone CR or Mex

 
El Floppo said:
Great game going forward. Useless game defending.

With CP and Jozy/zardoz... Can we afford another attack only player against even the T&Ts, let alone Panama, let alone CR or Mex
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Depends on who plays RB.  If Lima or Yedlin are out there then, no we can't afford to use him against better teams.  CP is a better defender than you're giving him credit for though.  He plays above average defense on the wing at Dortmund.  I just think he's not intuitive defensively in the middle.  Ideally, CP would play RW and we'd get the above average defense and the playmaking ability we'd like to see out there, but then we'd need a skilled player in the middle and we don't seem to have that yet.

 
I don't think we can overestimate just how bad Zardes was tonight.   It was a mess from start to finish.  No hold up play, his runs were off, he was getting out battled physically. 

It was a complete black hole outside of his "golazzo".

Bradley had a weaker than expected game for me but every one else was at least fine.

The games get slightly harder each time.  T&T should be a step up from this and certainly Panama should be another small step.

 
encaitar said:
Depends on who plays RB.  If Lima or Yedlin are out there then, no we can't afford to use him against better teams.  CP is a better defender than you're giving him credit for though.  He plays above average defense on the wing at Dortmund.  I just think he's not intuitive defensively in the middle.  Ideally, CP would play RW and we'd get the above average defense and the playmaking ability we'd like to see out there, but then we'd need a skilled player in the middle and we don't seem to have that yet.
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I agree about CPs d...but I don't want him having to do it for the US unless Boyd proves himself to be his equal. Last games showed me he isn't.

Who do you imagine at RB providing that cover? Dest in two years?

The thing is... a healthy Adams would cover a lot of holes as a DCM and help give some of that cover, albeit from the middle (not that false RB nonsense).

 
NewlyRetired said:
I don't think we can overestimate just how bad Zardes was tonight.   It was a mess from start to finish.  No hold up play, his runs were off, he was getting out battled physically. 

It was a complete black hole outside of his "golazzo".

Bradley had a weaker than expected game for me but every one else was at least fine.

The games get slightly harder each time.  T&T should be a step up from this and certainly Panama should be another small step.
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El Floppo said:
Seriously .. I like his game when it's on, bit gyassi has been absolutely awful
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encaitar said:
Depends on who plays RB.  If Lima or Yedlin are out there then, no we can't afford to use him against better teams.  CP is a better defender than you're giving him credit for though.  He plays above average defense on the wing at Dortmund.  I just think he's not intuitive defensively in the middle.  Ideally, CP would play RW and we'd get the above average defense and the playmaking ability we'd like to see out there, but then we'd need a skilled player in the middle and we don't seem to have that yet.
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Yedlin survives in the EPL.  He should be able to survive against the better Concacaf teams imo.

And I know people are sick of hearing it, but if we put Adams and Weston together in the middle, we can afford both Boyd and Pulisic together on the field.

Having only one holding midfielder (and a slow footed one at that) puts the entire team under too much pressure.

 
NewlyRetired said:
Yedlin survives in the EPL.  He should be able to survive against the better Concacaf teams imo.

And I know people are sick of hearing it, but if we put Adams and Weston together in the middle, we can afford both Boyd and Pulisic together on the field.

Having only one holding midfielder (and a slow footed one at that) puts the entire team under too much pressure.
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We're thinking the same thought tonight, ol pal 

 
After a nice start, CP pretty much disappeared. I wonder what happened there...if it was GUY gameplanning him, which opened up space for other players, or conditioning or something else. Was hoping for more  sustained brilliance from him. He wasn't even really getting kicked the way he will be in the next two games.

 
El Floppo said:
After a nice start, CP pretty much disappeared. I wonder what happened there...if it was GUY gameplanning him, which opened up space for other players, or conditioning or something else. Was hoping for more  sustained brilliance from him. He wasn't even really getting kicked the way he will be in the next two games.
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Likely fatigue.  He was hurt for a good part of the spring season for Dortmund, so I don't know how much endurance he has right now.  He was clowning guys early and I expect he'll continue to do so going forward.  He's so much better than any defender Concacaf can throw at him.

 
I am a little worried about Pulisic's goalscoring ability right now though.  He had three decent looks(including what should've been an easy header right at the end of the half) and didn't convert any of them.  Would really like to see him gain more of a nose for the goal.

 
encaitar said:
I am a little worried about Pulisic's goalscoring ability right now though.  He had three decent looks(including what should've been an easy header right at the end of the half) and didn't convert any of them.  Would really like to see him gain more of a nose for the goal.
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That should hopefully come with his game fitness. I'm worried about the kicking he's about to take the rest of the way forward

 
El Floppo said:
That should hopefully come with his game fitness. I'm worried about the kicking he's about to take the rest of the way forward
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That's always gonna be the worry with Pulisic playing in Concacaf.  Kinda wish we had a Germany Jones on this squad to give it back.

 
El Floppo said:
After a nice start, CP pretty much disappeared. I wonder what happened there...
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He came to the realization that passing to Zardes is a little different than passing to Aubameyang

:)

You are right though, after the first 25-30 minutes, he was not involved a ton.   Those driving runs he makes where every one else looks like they are standing still are wonderful.  No one on the team can do anything like it.

 
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Ives Galarcep‏Verified account @SoccerByIves 46m46 minutes ago

Gyasi Zardes is the top Twitter trending topic in the USA right now, probably for the 500,000 "That goal was SO Zardes" tweets.

 
At least Boyd makes things interesting and entertaining, wasn't expecting much but at least last night he seemed legit.  Can't add anything that hasn't been said, CP needs to play out wide to take advantage of his speed and ability to school guys one on one, Bradley while fine last night to provide that leadership is way too SLOW. At one point Swag saved his butt running back 60 yards to cut a break away off that Bradley couldn't get to. When actual qualifying starts Berhalter has to see it's time to turn this team over to Adams, he seems to have that leadership personality and can be the heart of the team.  Adams and Swag in the middle, CP and Boyd wide, Jozy back in the middle and get Miazga back in for some grit. That and pray Brooks gets healthy should be enough to keep us going forward until that next group of up and coming youngsters is ready to really help out.

 
SwampDawg said:
At least Boyd makes things interesting and entertaining, wasn't expecting much but at least last night he seemed legit.  Can't add anything that hasn't been said, CP needs to play out wide to take advantage of his speed and ability to school guys one on one, Bradley while fine last night to provide that leadership is way too SLOW. At one point Swag saved his butt running back 60 yards to cut a break away off that Bradley couldn't get to. When actual qualifying starts Berhalter has to see it's time to turn this team over to Adams, he seems to have that leadership personality and can be the heart of the team.  Adams and Swag in the middle, CP and Boyd wide, Jozy back in the middle and get Miazga back in for some grit. That and pray Brooks gets healthy should be enough to keep us going forward until that next group of up and coming youngsters is ready to really help out.
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completely agree.

.......................steffen

yedlin...... miazga......brooks...... #### it all

................adams.......swag

boyd..................nagbe..................cp

...................jozy

 
I like Long- still a little raw, and I don't think he's young (no idea, actually), but he's got good pace and strength and positioning. can we turn him into a LB? would destroy any hope of overlapping... but it's not like we're getting anything out of Ream anyways. and not sure about jekyll/hyde robo. 

I could also see keeping caillou behind adams and swag (eliminating nagbe in my lineup above) so long as one of them is always there to help defensively. for that matter, I could see adams as the solo holding mf, with swag in the middle in front of hims as more of a box-to-box guy. nagbe would find seams to help gain/keep possession and push the ball forward. 

 
I wasn't fully watching when Zardoz scored and didn't fully realize what happened until this morning when I saw a different angle than the TV broadcast. :lmao:

 
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El Floppo said:
completely agree.

.......................steffen

yedlin...... miazga......brooks...... #### it all

................adams.......swag

boyd..................nagbe..................cp

...................jozy
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that is my exact lineup if I was coaching today and every one was healthy.   I would call up every US lb until one sticks.  Ream is not the answer (nor is it his fault)

Nagbe is not young though (he will be 29 next month) so at the first chance I would look to the next generation.  I like to imagine Pomykal could do very well in that role.  He would provide the two way soccer that Nagbe can't and would give even more cover to allow CP and Boyd to focus on the offense.

It would be awesome if Weah could mature into a spot where he can be a first choice off the bench for Boyd/Jozy/CP because we know this team does not in any way stay healthy.

And then let performance dictate whether Yedlin stays or whether Dest can start to push him out.

 
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NewlyRetired said:
that is my exact lineup if I was coaching today and every one was healthy.   I would call up every US lb until one sticks.  Ream is not the answer (nor is it his fault)

Nagbe is not young though (he will be 29 next month) so at the first chance I would look to the next generation.  I like to imagine Pomykal could do very well in that role.  He would provide the two way soccer that Nagbe can't and would give even more cover to allow CP and Boyd to focus on the offense.

It would be awesome if Weah could mature into a spot where he can be a first choice off the bench for Boyd/Jozy/CP because we know this team does not in any way stay healthy.

And then let performance dictate whether Yedlin stays or whether Dest can start to push him out.
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Pomy, Weah ...maybe even young gio. 

For the very little I saw of Holmes, he looks like he could be that scrapper two way guy too. I'm still a nagbe fan though and love the compsure he brings to the team. But you're right, it would out the entire scrapping/defensive weight onto swagadams in the MF- and even though I think they're up to it, they'd need help.

 
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