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It gets turned on GGG since he’s mismanaged every aspect of this window that he has had some control over.  

and GGG or USSF prolonged this story by not simply cutting the cord yesterday. 
I was wondering if the extra day had to do with any sort of Union issues in terms of having to check with a union rep due to some rules in the CBA which would have normally prevented the double suspension.

Until I hear differently, I am still thinking they were waiting on "something" today to finish making their decision.

 
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"I" didn't do ####.  Weston McKennie did.

People turning it on Berhalter because they don't like him would be bush league IMO.
read this twice as

"I didn't do ####.. " Weston McKennie SAID.

and then thought... this all makes more sense now.

but now I'm back to wishing US soccer would just let us know wtf happened.

 
Yueill's call up is an absolute joke but the only reason I am not spending any of my dwindling patience on it because I think there is close to a 0% chance he sees the field.

And IMO it all about the points dropped.  Keep everything else the same and we have 6 points in the bag and we are all just laughing at the cluster #### instead of being angry at it.
That's exactly why it's an issue to me. Use that to call up any young kid that has any potential to join the team and bring them in. Let them be in the experience. Be with the team. See/learn a little. Yueill has no future so it's a wasted opportunity. 

And if he DOES see the field, then JFC. 

 
So I guess Weston won't be captain anytime soon?

Why can't we have nice things?
I can't believe what is happening.  If I wasn't so invested, I would be laughing my ### off.

*Weston does the most uncaptain thing possible in screwing over his team.

*Adams goes ENTIRELY against his character with the moronically timed foul

*Pulisic looks like he is about to cry on the field

Where did this all go so wrong so fast and how the hell does none of this involve Gio? :)

I bet GGG longs for the day when Hoppe lipped off to him....

 
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I can't believe what is happening.  If I wasn't so invested, I would be laughing my ### off.

*Weston does the most uncaptain thing possible in screwing over his team.

*Adams goes ENTIRELY against his character with the moronically timed foul

*Pulisic looks like he is about to cry on the field

Where did this all go so wrong so fast and how the hell does none of this involve Gio? :)

I bet GGG longs for the day when Hoppe lipped off to him....
I’ll just say this, I don’t think this is totally unrelated to Hoppe mouthing off (or Brooks in the game last night around the 18th minute). I said this back in the spring, unlike last cycle where we were still an MLS team, we have guys that have been exposed to some of the best tactical minds and coaches in the game on a daily basis at this point.  They’ll try to put a good face on the #### sandwich, but it’s a #### sandwich.

 
The coach in me (25 years but obviously not on a national level):

GGG is playing to not lose.  Like prevent defense in the NFL it just prevents winning.  I cant figure out why but he must see something at trainingnthat we don't.  I can give him the benefit of the doubt... for now.

Subs last night - atrocious.  No more than 5 minutes after US goal, at least 2 should've come in.  It was obvious legs were drained.  We needed a puck me up.  Canada switched to a high press and no one on the US adjusted.  No one.  Even the goal we gave up, Davies hadn't really been pushing and yedlin obviously thought the same.  

Talent is there.  This game was on tactics and coaching imo.

 
What you're describing is exactly how City and Liverpool play.

So the issue for you is that we don't have the players/midfielders to make the linking, quick-passing interplay work when the defense rotates to help against the FB/winger duo?  Is that it?
Comparing our tactics to either of these clubs is like comparing your daughter's finger paintings to Van Gogh. Yes they both have paint and swirls and stuff, but.....and I hate to be the bearer of bad news....no one is hanging her stuff in the Louvre any time soon. 

 
I’ll just say this, I don’t think this is totally unrelated to Hoppe mouthing off (or Brooks in the game last night around the 18th minute). I said this back in the spring, unlike last cycle where we were still an MLS team, we have guys that have been exposed to some of the best tactical minds and coaches in the game on a daily basis at this point.  They’ll try to put a good face on the #### sandwich, but it’s a #### sandwich.


what happened with Brooks last night? I missed that.

Hoppe- I thought he was pissed about getting subbed out. Was there more to it than that?

 
what happened with Brooks last night? I missed that.

Hoppe- I thought he was pissed about getting subbed out. Was there more to it than that?
Brooks made a Gio like frustration move when he was near GGG.  Don't know what about exactly but he clearly wasn't happy.

Hoppe mouthed off when he did not want to be subbed.  We also don't know what he said.

 
I am unfamiliar with him but people online seem really displeased with this.  Anyone know the story behind this guy?  This isn't the same guy who flopped horribly in Colorado is it?

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[Charles Boehm]USMNT tidbit: Anthony Hudson has been promoted to assistant coach on a full-time basis. Englishman was named US U-20s head coach in January 2020 but deputized with senior team when pandemic shut that program down. That move is now permanent; search for new U-20s HC is underway.

 
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I am unfamiliar with him but people online seem really displeased with this.  Anyone know the story behind this guy?  This isn't the game guy who flopped horribly in Colorado is it?

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[Charles Boehm]USMNT tidbit: Anthony Hudson has been promoted to assistant coach on a full-time basis. Englishman was named US U-20s head coach in January 2020 but deputized with senior team when pandemic shut that program down. That move is now permanent; search for new U-20s HC is underway.
One and the same, one and the same.  This program is a joke.

 And the fact this came out in a random tweet is an indictment of the entire organization.  Are they trying to hide it?

 
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RBL is 1w, 2L to start the season. 

Too much talent on that squad to not push back into Europe.

But if they continue to struggle, I doubt Jesse's leash is very long. Not that I want to hope for it... but Jesse for the US? Tata? Hugo Perez? Swap ELS Christian and GGG for Hugo straight up.

 
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RBL is 1w, 2L to start the season. 

Too much talent on that squad to not push back into Europe.

But if they continue to struggle, I doubt Jesse's leash is very long. Not that I want to hope for it... but Jesse for the US? Tata? Hugo Perez? Swap ELS Christian and GGG for Hugo straight up.
RBL's next two games are against Bayern and Man City and they just lost one of their best players to Bayern at the end of the window.  Jesse better hope they don't have a too short a leash.

 
Obviously the entire thing will be white washed but the next Behind the Crest would be fascinating to actually see all the unedited footage.

 
I am unfamiliar with him but people online seem really displeased with this.  Anyone know the story behind this guy?  This isn't the same guy who flopped horribly in Colorado is it?

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[Charles Boehm]USMNT tidbit: Anthony Hudson has been promoted to assistant coach on a full-time basis. Englishman was named US U-20s head coach in January 2020 but deputized with senior team when pandemic shut that program down. That move is now permanent; search for new U-20s HC is underway.
Yes, it is. He was also undefeated in the World Cup with New Zealand (all draws, so maybe his influence is already being felt).

 
Some news on Gio.  This window has just been amazing in just how much has gone wrong

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Derek Rae

@RaeComm

Gio Reyna & Thomas Meunier already back in Dortmund after leaving national teams early due to hamstring & muscular injuries respectively. Reyna’s injury in the tendon area. No initial word on how long recovery could be. Marco Reus (minor knee injury) also expected back early.

 
Don't want to perpetuate unsubstantiated Twitter rumors but when they seem to be backed up by Landon's comments they may have some validity. Latest is Weston let an outsider into the hotel/his room and they may have been connected to a teammate. Here's Landon's comments, the bolded part is telling:

"I will just say I am privy to what happened. I'm not going to announce that publicly," Donovan said on the Futbol with Grant Wahl podcast. "I will just say that I am incredibly disappointed in Weston, incredibly disappointed. Look, I can understand being at Juventus during a long club season, you're sitting at home for months and months and months and you want to have people over. Is it the smartest thing to do? No, but I get it. This is one week of your life with three massive games, not only for yourself but for your teammates and for your country to go to a World Cup and the level of selfishness in that moment is beyond me. Honestly, it's beyond me."

 
I'm pretty sure one of the media or former players in the know would have invoked John Harkes by now if that's the direction this was heading.  (or maybe I missed it?)

 
A player's sister is the rumor. Stress that it's a rumor, could be way off. No idea who.

But that... combined with doing it during the first WCQ window? Yikes.
The rumor is CP’s sister, Devyn. Completely unsubstantiated and completely unfair to bring it up but I’m gonna do it anyway because hot gos is fun and this is a message board.

 
Tony@Anthony_Bucks17

Replying to @AlexiLalas

Gregg is really going to screw over the golden generation isn’t he?
The cat is among the pigeons now. 

Jesse Marsch :liked: the comment above.

 
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wow, these rumors....

Some one has to break soon with the truth because the rumors are going to spin out of control soon and may end up worse than what ever Weston did.

 
That would certainly add some clarity to Landon's "beyond repair" comment.
That is what I keep coming back to as well.  Teammates can forgive most stuff.  They might be pissed at him for running out to a party or something but that type of stupidity is not beyond repair.

If these rumors are leaning in the direction they seem to be, I think my earlier question of why did GGG have to wait another day for the second suspension may have been answered.  He likely had to talk to the team and get their opinions.  If they did not want him around, GGG's hand may have been forced to get him out of camp.

What an all time cluster ####, especially in a social media world where this stuff spins out of control.  Back in the day, none of us knew what happened with Harkes, and Sampson fell on the sword for the program to protect every one.

 
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So back to the field, lets summarize the changes from the time the roster was announced:

We lost: Steffen, Dest, Weah, Weston and Gio

We gained: Johnson and Yueill

Dear god........

 
His actions and LDs comments are going to put Swag on the bench until Juve dump him in the winter market. And I doubt a top team will want to spend on him.

 
It's amazing how quickly things swung from the Nations League and Golf Cup wins to now.  I don't think many of us were enamoured with GGG's tactics but we felt like he was having these guys play hard and together and he was doing a really good job with dual-nationals and decent job with constructing a roster.  I think most of us were happy with the roster he selected for WCQ.  If Miles puts that header away in the first game and Brooks tracks the runner (or Yedlin doesn't get roasted) in the 2nd game we may be sitting here with 6 pts and the whole outlook it completely different.

My point:  calm down everybody.  I'm happy to give GGG more than 3 games - I think he's earned that much.

 
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My point:  calm down everybody.  I'm happy to give GGG more than 3 games - I think he's earned that much.


The problem with 3 more games, is that it could be 3 games too late.  Is GGG self aware enough to lookin the mirror and admit he needs to change things?   That's a likely conversation Ernie will have and something Ernie will have to ascertain in the next week.

 
The problem with 3 more games, is that it could be 3 games too late.  Is GGG self aware enough to lookin the mirror and admit he needs to change things?   That's a likely conversation Ernie will have and something Ernie will have to ascertain in the next week.
I am going to watch the game and formation very closely against Honduras. 

If he trots out the identical 4-3-3 scheme, I am going to be very unhappy.  We just can't generate enough opportunities in that formation with our current group of players.

 
There are two teams ahead of the US in points and they play each other. People calling for GGG’s head can’t say who should be managing and can’t point to a clearly more successful national team manager (because GGG’s record with the USMNT has been as good as anyone’s). Maybe he’s not the guy. Maybe these aren’t the players. But there’s no magic coach out there who is going to instantly transform the team. Just chill. 

 
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I am going to watch the game and formation very closely against Honduras. 

If he trots out the identical 4-3-3 scheme, I am going to be very unhappy.  We just can't generate enough opportunities in that formation with our current group of players.
What would you suggest?  Didn't they play more three in the back against ES? And that was even worse then Canada.

 

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