El Floppo
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we need to bring Miazga back into the fold just for that game.
but that clock is for club, right? he just scored against the US recently.
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but that clock is for club, right? he just scored against the US recently.
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Footballguy
oh dear
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Owen Otasowie didn't play against KV Oostende and PSG, according to manager Philippe Clement because Otasowie wasn't 'match fit'. However he played yesterday with the Club Brugge U23s and reportedly did not leave a good impression.
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Owen Otasowie didn't play against KV Oostende and PSG, according to manager Philippe Clement because Otasowie wasn't 'match fit'. However he played yesterday with the Club Brugge U23s and reportedly did not leave a good impression.
El Floppo
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damn. sounds like it's almost time to throw him in the freddy pile.
still hoping Swag gets his #### together before joining them.
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Steffen starts today in a Cup game.
With Weah and Dest already back I think this just leaves Pulisic and Gio as being out. Am I missing anyone?
With Weah and Dest already back I think this just leaves Pulisic and Gio as being out. Am I missing anyone?
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El Floppo
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Sargent didn't dress today. Might be a rest after coming back from injury last weekend for 70'. Or might be another knock.
Swag didn't see a minute last weekend. I have a baaaaad feeling about minutes to come.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
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Probably a good sign that they'd leave Sargent off the roster for a mid-week Leagues Cup game.
El Floppo
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I like that thought better than the knock. He's played well for them so far- and I think they tweaked their formation to get him and Rashica in there with Pukki, both of whom subbed in from the bench today.
encaitar
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Pynadath news
He's apparently been training at Chelsea. I know many used to think he was a big name for the future, but it seems his career is stagnated at this point. Still..... he's only 19. Maybe he can still turn it around.
He's apparently been training at Chelsea. I know many used to think he was a big name for the future, but it seems his career is stagnated at this point. Still..... he's only 19. Maybe he can still turn it around.
El Floppo
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I've been trying to keep up with him, but seems like a kid that never- or hadnt yet- grown into his big boy pants. But so filthy with RM and Ajax youth set ups...hopefully can fill out those britches and become a viable pro.
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I listened to the US Soccer podcast today with an interview of GGG focusing on the last qualifying window. I will list out some of the interesting points and then tack on some questions at the end that US Soccer obviously would not ask him but I would have loved to hear
* GGG emphatically stated both the coaching staff and players were not up and running fast enough before the ELS game. He did not make any excuses and just said they could not afford to lose an entire day of training when they had so little prep time.
* GGG said he was extremely disappointed with how the team played for most of the game against ELS, but when he rewatched, he still thinks the US should have had 3 points. He specifically called out the xG in the game and said ELS created one half chance the entire game.
* GGG explained the Weston issue. He stated firmly that when Weston was asked what happened, Weston did not lie, or divert, he simply said he ####ed up. The first time GGG talked to him was the day of the Canada game so I assumed it may have happened the night before.
*GGG said they initially decided on the one game suspension, but then after the Canada game, he said the staff talked more and decided it would make a statement to the rest of the team if Weston was asked to leave camp. He did say that he did not ask the players their opinion. He said the staff focused on consequences, else why have rules to begin with. The oddest part of the whole interview happened at the end of this segment. The interviewer was ready to move on to the Canada game but GGG stopped him and said something to the effect of "I maybe oversimplified what Weston's reintegration means to the team. While Weston is not going to be black balled, he is going to have regain and earn the respect and confidence of both his teammates and coaching staff". It was a very odd ending to this section because there was not really any reason for GGG to interject this information.
* GGG talked about tactics for the Canada game and how they did not work out how he intended. He said that Canada was playing a low mid block, which meant the US could have walked the ball right up to the first line of defense and try to create more small passing angles to draw them out but he said they spent way too much time do long side passes from one side to the other which was very easy for Canada's block to just slide and hold their spots. He emphasized that the CB's should have taken the ball directly at Larin to force him to get off of Adams but it did not happen enough. Again GGG expressed disappointment in the play of the team but did not go as far as thinking they should have won the game, like he did for ELS.
* GGG said he learned something from Omar Gonzalez years ago and that was to not call the bench players subs or reserves. He said Gonzo told him to use the name "solutions" and GGG loved that. The interviewer said there are many countries around the world who do something similar to give the feel of importance and it is mostly English language that makes them sound less important.
* GGG mentioned how he constantly told the team that every one was going to be needed. He followed this up by saying they used 21 different starters across the 3 games.
* GGG mentioned that they do not want the strikers pressing. This was something that Pepi was doing in the first half that they had to correct at half time.
* GGG talked about Pepi's performance that was beyond incredible considering his age, the moment, first cap, being in a tough environment etc.
* Interviewer questions why GGG continues to play such an inexperienced squad. GGG says over the past WC window, they did a quick survey of the other countries and the US was starting teams 3-4 years younger than the second youngest team in the World (which he claimed was England). He said it is fun to coach by far the youngest team in the world but he thinks the players are all ready for it else he would not be playing them.
* He said to try and fix the problems they had before the ELS game, that they are going to have strong communication with every player, making sure that every player enters camp with the right mind set. He intimated that they may have made a mistake in letting the players alone to prepare in their late preseason and early season games with their clubs, instead of staying on them. (this was my impression of what he said, not quite his exact words).
* GGG claimed during the interview that the team lost two games in the last window. The interviewer ignored the mistake. At the very end of the interview GGG said "you did not catch what I said about 2 losses". The interviewer said they can just cut that part out but GGG said he did it on purpose because he said that is the feeling he is getting from everyone (fans/media etc). I did not quite understand the point he was making but I guess it was that every one is feeling worse than the record says we should. Although GGG himself said they played poorly for 2.5 of the 3 games so maybe every one else is right?
Questions I would have enjoyed hearing but understand why US Soccer could not ask:
1) If you value your "solutions" so highly, why did you not make any subs until too late in the Canada game?
2) Many years ago, John Harkes was similarly dismissed from the team and ultimately left off of the WC roster. At that time the coach Steve Sampson made the decision to protect Harkes from letting the public know the truth. Did you at any time considering making up an injury for Weston when sending him home to try and protect him?
3) Weston's dad made not so veiled comments that other players also broke the rules but were not punished. What did you think of these comments?
* GGG emphatically stated both the coaching staff and players were not up and running fast enough before the ELS game. He did not make any excuses and just said they could not afford to lose an entire day of training when they had so little prep time.
* GGG said he was extremely disappointed with how the team played for most of the game against ELS, but when he rewatched, he still thinks the US should have had 3 points. He specifically called out the xG in the game and said ELS created one half chance the entire game.
* GGG explained the Weston issue. He stated firmly that when Weston was asked what happened, Weston did not lie, or divert, he simply said he ####ed up. The first time GGG talked to him was the day of the Canada game so I assumed it may have happened the night before.
*GGG said they initially decided on the one game suspension, but then after the Canada game, he said the staff talked more and decided it would make a statement to the rest of the team if Weston was asked to leave camp. He did say that he did not ask the players their opinion. He said the staff focused on consequences, else why have rules to begin with. The oddest part of the whole interview happened at the end of this segment. The interviewer was ready to move on to the Canada game but GGG stopped him and said something to the effect of "I maybe oversimplified what Weston's reintegration means to the team. While Weston is not going to be black balled, he is going to have regain and earn the respect and confidence of both his teammates and coaching staff". It was a very odd ending to this section because there was not really any reason for GGG to interject this information.
* GGG talked about tactics for the Canada game and how they did not work out how he intended. He said that Canada was playing a low mid block, which meant the US could have walked the ball right up to the first line of defense and try to create more small passing angles to draw them out but he said they spent way too much time do long side passes from one side to the other which was very easy for Canada's block to just slide and hold their spots. He emphasized that the CB's should have taken the ball directly at Larin to force him to get off of Adams but it did not happen enough. Again GGG expressed disappointment in the play of the team but did not go as far as thinking they should have won the game, like he did for ELS.
* GGG said he learned something from Omar Gonzalez years ago and that was to not call the bench players subs or reserves. He said Gonzo told him to use the name "solutions" and GGG loved that. The interviewer said there are many countries around the world who do something similar to give the feel of importance and it is mostly English language that makes them sound less important.
* GGG mentioned how he constantly told the team that every one was going to be needed. He followed this up by saying they used 21 different starters across the 3 games.
* GGG mentioned that they do not want the strikers pressing. This was something that Pepi was doing in the first half that they had to correct at half time.
* GGG talked about Pepi's performance that was beyond incredible considering his age, the moment, first cap, being in a tough environment etc.
* Interviewer questions why GGG continues to play such an inexperienced squad. GGG says over the past WC window, they did a quick survey of the other countries and the US was starting teams 3-4 years younger than the second youngest team in the World (which he claimed was England). He said it is fun to coach by far the youngest team in the world but he thinks the players are all ready for it else he would not be playing them.
* He said to try and fix the problems they had before the ELS game, that they are going to have strong communication with every player, making sure that every player enters camp with the right mind set. He intimated that they may have made a mistake in letting the players alone to prepare in their late preseason and early season games with their clubs, instead of staying on them. (this was my impression of what he said, not quite his exact words).
* GGG claimed during the interview that the team lost two games in the last window. The interviewer ignored the mistake. At the very end of the interview GGG said "you did not catch what I said about 2 losses". The interviewer said they can just cut that part out but GGG said he did it on purpose because he said that is the feeling he is getting from everyone (fans/media etc). I did not quite understand the point he was making but I guess it was that every one is feeling worse than the record says we should. Although GGG himself said they played poorly for 2.5 of the 3 games so maybe every one else is right?
Questions I would have enjoyed hearing but understand why US Soccer could not ask:
1) If you value your "solutions" so highly, why did you not make any subs until too late in the Canada game?
2) Many years ago, John Harkes was similarly dismissed from the team and ultimately left off of the WC roster. At that time the coach Steve Sampson made the decision to protect Harkes from letting the public know the truth. Did you at any time considering making up an injury for Weston when sending him home to try and protect him?
3) Weston's dad made not so veiled comments that other players also broke the rules but were not punished. What did you think of these comments?
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TripItUp
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This interview is not a good look for GGG.
He got his job because of nepotism, has no meaningful international experience....and acts as if he made no mistakes for an underperforming side.
- He is not a leader.
- He doesn't know what he's doing as evidenced by the teams preparation for El Salvador.
- I'm willing to bet a large part of the team doesn't like him or trust him.
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AAABatteries
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Sammy3469
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I'm sorry, but that interview is just sort of pathetic if you break down what he's actually saying tactically and from a management perspective.
It takes you a half to tell Pepi not to press (and frankly everyone was pressing, so I don't know what his point is here...maybe he wanted them to do it farther upfield, but they pressed throughout). It takes you 80 minutes to do anything against Canada (and the go at Larin thing is BS when any turnover essentially gives Davies carte blanche). The whole Weston stuff is simply BS at this level. Suspend a guy for a game after he fesses up. Then come back the next day and suspend him even more. Honestly, F that guy if I'm Weston.
Frankly this reads like a team that doesn't buy in to what he's selling tactically.
It takes you a half to tell Pepi not to press (and frankly everyone was pressing, so I don't know what his point is here...maybe he wanted them to do it farther upfield, but they pressed throughout). It takes you 80 minutes to do anything against Canada (and the go at Larin thing is BS when any turnover essentially gives Davies carte blanche). The whole Weston stuff is simply BS at this level. Suspend a guy for a game after he fesses up. Then come back the next day and suspend him even more. Honestly, F that guy if I'm Weston.
Frankly this reads like a team that doesn't buy in to what he's selling tactically.
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I just hate black and white takes.El Floppo said:
Reading balanced commentary is always more interesting to me because it gives the belief to the reader that there is not a bias behind the words.
When all people do is hammer one side of a discussion with no balance, it starts to feel like a political argument where all people want to do is believe they are right, no matter what other items their may be to consider.
I don't know if he is right or wrong, but the interesting stuff (to me) is in the middle of the discussion, not at the fringe ends.
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El Floppo
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NewlyRetired
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This might be a fun listen. The Charlie Keenen drama is probably the weirdest story in the history of US Soccer fandom.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_f6wBFXsAMva40?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_f6wBFXsAMva40?format=jpg&name=medium
El Floppo
Footballguy
I know we won't get to hear any of the players go into it until after GGG is gone, but I'm genuinely curious whether your last sentence is true or not.Sammy3469 said:
right or wrong, I get the sense Brooks is a bit of a lynchpin as a more veteran player who doesn't seem to put up with #### (his obvious displeasure towards the sidelines during one of the games). but he appeared to be overjoyed when the US took it to Honduras even after he'd been subbed out at the half... reading into it, a sign that he might be buying into it.
but it's definitely still not there with them. I feel like that's a formation that should be working, but still isn't- in ways you've been really good about pointing out. for me it's all about the shape- not enough width, not enough connection between the lines, not enough numbers to support the ball wherever it ends up, and yet bizarrely still compressing the field into mush by pushing the weak-side wide players into the middle of the park, rarely winning second balls... and yeah- this team should be able to press higher up the field with numbers without getting so easily penetrated either through or bypassing the MF. it's not working.
El Floppo
Footballguy
looking at Andy's twitter post above, I scrolled down and saw this:
USA's World Cup qualifier against Jamaica on October 7th has been moved from ESPN to ESPN2 because of a college football game that'll be aired on the main network that night #USMNT #USAJAM
still nice to see the sport getting the royal treatment. I mean, this isn't THAT important a game, right? just a WCQ. those don't really count.
USA's World Cup qualifier against Jamaica on October 7th has been moved from ESPN to ESPN2 because of a college football game that'll be aired on the main network that night #USMNT #USAJAM
still nice to see the sport getting the royal treatment. I mean, this isn't THAT important a game, right? just a WCQ. those don't really count.
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Weston starting today
NewlyRetired
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I rewatched the Behind the Crest to see if I could get a feel for half time. But just a nano second after GGG states the subs, it cuts away. It made me think some one got upset, which I had assumed would be Brooks but as you and others have noted, he was as happy after the game as if he was Pepi.
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at least it's on a channel I get. For the Panama game, I either have to steal a stream or watch in Spanish.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
I would just say there's a difference between buying into GGG as a manager and buying into the USMNT itself. They all want to qualify for the WC, I just question if there's buy in on the tactics. I frankly think we're succeeding in spite of his tactics and the tactically aware guys know that.
I mean both CP and Reyna have played under Tuechel who has one of the best tactical setups going, and then they're put in whatever tactical setup GGG comes up with. They're professional enough to try their best, but you can see that they see the tactics aren't working and start to improvise.
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US Soccer said it will be roughly 1 week from today that the roster drops for qualifying so this is a big week for players to show well if they hope to be selected.
Players like Scally, Busio, Richards, Musah, Hoppe and others are hoping to break into the qualifying team and get called. I assumed it will be a large roster again given the 3 games.
Players like Scally, Busio, Richards, Musah, Hoppe and others are hoping to break into the qualifying team and get called. I assumed it will be a large roster again given the 3 games.
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Dinsy Ejotuz
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I'm expecting 26-27 points from the 14 games and 6 from this set of three games would keep us on that pace.
7 would hold serve (win at home, draw away).
7 would hold serve (win at home, draw away).
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Weah starts at left half today in a 4-4-2 ish looking line up
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Goal for Pefok (simple tap in) in a 4-0 game (he scored the 4th and then was subbed off).
Juve losing 2-1 in a game they can't really afford to drop 3 points
Juve losing 2-1 in a game they can't really afford to drop 3 points
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As a big believer in rules and consequences, I was disappointed to hear that from GGG's explanation, they appeared to be making up the consequences after the fact.
IMO, if you make a rule, you have to have clear consequences understood before hand so that every one has a even playing field.
IMO, if you make a rule, you have to have clear consequences understood before hand so that every one has a even playing field.
El Floppo
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NewlyRetired
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What I really like is that Allegri has subbed in every phase of the game (losing, tied and winning) and used all 5 subs and Weston is going to go the distance (if he does not get hurt).
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Poke_4_Life
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half? I assume you mean left mid or left wing. Formation appears to be a 442 with two CDMs and Weah as left mid.
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Busio starts in the San Siro against AC Milan.
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sorry.
When growing up, we always referred to the midfield as "halfbacks" and the terminology has always stuck with me.
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El Floppo
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El Floppo
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I was always confused when I started to watch English soccer on PBS and the announcer kept referring to the two limbering donkey's at the back as Center Halfs. Center Halfs when I was a kid were typically your best two way players.
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Tim Weah off in the 60th minute. He didn't do that much in this game and didn't stand out (for good or bad) but it was just a positive to see him start. Plus, leaving with a 2-0 lead will likely keep him in the XI.
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Tim Weah off in the 60th minute. He didn't do that much in this game and didn't stand out (for good or bad) but it was just a positive to see him start. Plus, leaving with a 2-0 lead will likely keep him in the XI.
NewlyRetired
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At the end of this season, there is a chance Busio and Scally will be the two guys with the most minutes in a top 5 league.
El Floppo
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I played center half.
when I hear the CBs called that, it's STILL taking a double take for me to think what position we're talking about.
El Floppo
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immediate impact- delicate wall-pass in the box to open up his teammate for a nice shot.
NewlyRetired
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Hoppe gets his first La Liga start today! Against Real Madrid
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NewlyRetired
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I am really bummed how much money this is costing the fed.
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U.S. Soccer remains committed to equal pay for our senior national team players and ensuring that they remain among the highest paid in the world.
The arguments advanced by the Women’s National Team are not supported by the facts or the law. The Women’s National Team specifically bargained for a different pay structure that prioritized the stability of guaranteed salaries and substantial benefits over higher-risk contingent game bonuses. After reviewing all of the components of the two teams’ compensation packages, not just the game bonuses in isolation, the District Court correctly ruled that the Women’s National Team was paid more than the Men’s National Team both in aggregate and on a per game basis.
We remain confident in our legal position and the affirmance of the District Court’s decision on appeal. As a non-profit organization, U.S. Soccer believes the success of our senior national teams is critical to our overall mission and that prolonged and costly litigation is not in the best interest of our current and future players, our fans or the future of the game. We therefore will continue to seek a resolution of this matter outside of court.
Last week, U.S. Soccer offered identical contract proposals to the Women’s and Men’s National Team Players’ Associations and once again called on both associations to join the Federation in finding a way to equalize FIFA prize money.
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U.S. Soccer remains committed to equal pay for our senior national team players and ensuring that they remain among the highest paid in the world.
The arguments advanced by the Women’s National Team are not supported by the facts or the law. The Women’s National Team specifically bargained for a different pay structure that prioritized the stability of guaranteed salaries and substantial benefits over higher-risk contingent game bonuses. After reviewing all of the components of the two teams’ compensation packages, not just the game bonuses in isolation, the District Court correctly ruled that the Women’s National Team was paid more than the Men’s National Team both in aggregate and on a per game basis.
We remain confident in our legal position and the affirmance of the District Court’s decision on appeal. As a non-profit organization, U.S. Soccer believes the success of our senior national teams is critical to our overall mission and that prolonged and costly litigation is not in the best interest of our current and future players, our fans or the future of the game. We therefore will continue to seek a resolution of this matter outside of court.
Last week, U.S. Soccer offered identical contract proposals to the Women’s and Men’s National Team Players’ Associations and once again called on both associations to join the Federation in finding a way to equalize FIFA prize money.
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