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BassNBrew said:
NewlyRetired said:
I have been reading the "talent vs trying" debate.

While I have lamented at times that the current group's effort and energy level could be better, I never really considered them to be dogs either.

Some one today posted this lineup from the 2014 World Cup

..............................Howard

Fab..................Omar.............Besler.............DMB

..........................Jones..........Beckerman

Zusi............................Bradley............................Davis

..............................Dempsey



Look at how weak this looks from a club perspective compared to what we have today. This is with DMB on literally his last legs because we could not find any one else to even pretend to be a LB, along with MLS/Liga MX lifers in Besler, Zusi, Davis, Beckerman, and Omar.

It does make you wonder how a team like this one in 2014 appeared more competitive than our current group.........
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Boot it and chase has always been an effective strategy from the little kids to the pros. Leicester won an EPL title with it. Our decline in results aligns perfectly with US soccer mandate to build out of the back.
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Too bad we don't have a Jamie Vardy type....

I do believe we should be much better now than "boot and chase", I do think its more than just the build out of the back ideology. I know my opinion is in the minority on this, and that's ok, but I do not like the youth soccer mentality of pushing the individual skills at the detriment of the team game. US Soccer is so focused on finding their own Messi that they are pushing kids to dribble, dribble, dribble (and not wanting coaches to encourage passing) and elevating the individual over the team. I think it minimizes creativity in that they don't see the line breaking pass, or the teammate making the right run. Is that leading to issues at the national or MLS levels? Not sure. But I do see a lack of field vision and the ability to serve at times, and that is a problem.

I also don't like the no heading until you are 12 rule (watching too many 14-15 year olds duck or go in wrong with their head since they aren't taught), but I get the reasoning and not a hill I am going to die on.
 
NewlyRetired said:
B Maverick said:
El Floppo said:
Dammit. That's all spot on.
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:censored:I hate agreeing with LD.
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The Ramos one really struck a nerve with me especially when you consider how much quality and quantity development opportunities this generation has compared to what they had back in the day.
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For sure. Their job was to set up MLS and establish consistent qualifying for the WC. The next group was supposed to make the US a team one that expected to get out of the group, not necessarily the group of death, but not a team that anyone wanted to play. Win or lose it was going to be tough. This group is supposed to build on that. Maybe not win the WC, but with a good draw and brackets maybe tease a 2002 type run and make some noise.

If they don't remember that they still need to work for it, they will be remembered for 2026 like some remember 2018. And that isn't good.
 
In normal 3 or 4 team qualifying... This US team might be in trouble. Especially considering the players Jamaica has been bringing in.

Remember El Salvador last cycle? That's the team I want the US to ALWAYS be. All heart and fight and super organized. The quality and depth of our players would ten take those qualities to a next level... A level were all so disappointed were not seeing.
 
When JK split the fan base in two, a large group of fans became convinced that all we needed was to get the vast majority of players into good Euro clubs and the rest would take care of itself.

When as a country we made the fairly large leap in quality at the club level, but the results at the National team level did not follow, that same group of fans spent all their passion/anger on the coach being the problem, and that all we needed was an international coach and the rest would take care of itself.

No paw instead of having a large portion of the fan base being angry and passionate, it feels like these fans are now so disillusioned to the point they feel like they were sold a false bill of goods (a sale they gave to themselves to be fair).

There is an old saying in sports. You want your fans to be either happy or angry, as long as there is passion. It feels like we are clearly moving into the apathy stage for the fans and that is a bad bad place to be.
 
NewlyRetired said:
When JK split the fan base in two, a large group of fans became convinced that all we needed was to get the vast majority of players into good Euro clubs and the rest would take care of itself.

When as a country we made the fairly large leap in quality at the club level, but the results at the National team level did not follow, that same group of fans spent all their passion/anger on the coach being the problem, and that all we needed was an international coach and the rest would take care of itself.
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I admit, I am still one saying we need to be encouraging most of our potential USMNT players to be going to Europe. But they need to be playing, consistently and meaningfully.

And also that our most talented team needed a good coach. GGG proved over time not to be that, to me anyway. It never had to be an international one, just the RIGHT one. Is Poch the right one? We shall see. I am not going to judge on two games where his team let him down.

And no neither of those things above lead to "the rest will take care of itself". But I still believe these are the keys to potentially winning a WC. Provided that the players want it and actually play like it means something.



And yes I know you are generalizing, I am not taking it as an attack. :boxing:
 
B Maverick said:
NewlyRetired said:
When JK split the fan base in two, a large group of fans became convinced that all we needed was to get the vast majority of players into good Euro clubs and the rest would take care of itself.

When as a country we made the fairly large leap in quality at the club level, but the results at the National team level did not follow, that same group of fans spent all their passion/anger on the coach being the problem, and that all we needed was an international coach and the rest would take care of itself.
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I admit, I am still one saying we need to be encouraging most of our potential USMNT players to be going to Europe. But they need to be playing, consistently and meaningfully.

And also that our most talented team needed a good coach. GGG proved over time not to be that, to me anyway. It never had to be an international one, just the RIGHT one. Is Poch the right one? We shall see. I am not going to judge on two games where his team let him down.

And no neither of those things above lead to "the rest will take care of itself". But I still believe these are the keys to potentially winning a WC. Provided that the players want it and actually play like it means something.



And yes I know you are generalizing, I am not taking it as an attack. :boxing:
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I am not saying they are wrong. Europe is absolutely the best path to take.

The part a large section of fans missed is that there is more to national team results than where you play.

We are seeing some evidence that heart may be just as important as talent.

Obviously we want both heart and talent if we are ever to be a legit top ten team.
 
NewlyRetired said:
B Maverick said:
NewlyRetired said:
When JK split the fan base in two, a large group of fans became convinced that all we needed was to get the vast majority of players into good Euro clubs and the rest would take care of itself.

When as a country we made the fairly large leap in quality at the club level, but the results at the National team level did not follow, that same group of fans spent all their passion/anger on the coach being the problem, and that all we needed was an international coach and the rest would take care of itself.
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I admit, I am still one saying we need to be encouraging most of our potential USMNT players to be going to Europe. But they need to be playing, consistently and meaningfully.

And also that our most talented team needed a good coach. GGG proved over time not to be that, to me anyway. It never had to be an international one, just the RIGHT one. Is Poch the right one? We shall see. I am not going to judge on two games where his team let him down.

And no neither of those things above lead to "the rest will take care of itself". But I still believe these are the keys to potentially winning a WC. Provided that the players want it and actually play like it means something.



And yes I know you are generalizing, I am not taking it as an attack. :boxing:
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I am not saying they are wrong. Europe is absolutely the best path to take.

The part a large section of fans missed is that there is more to national team results than where you play.

We are seeing some evidence that heart may be just as important as talent.

Obviously we want both heart and talent if we are ever to be a legit top ten team.
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Oh for sure. And I think we've seen how far heart can take us, and we are now seeing how far talent alone can take us.

Will be glorious when we find a team with both.
 
B Maverick said:
I admit, I am still one saying we need to be encouraging most of our potential USMNT players to be going to Europe. But they need to be playing, consistently and meaningfully.
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we have a LOT of guys doing exactly that. 7 or 8 at Juve/Milan/PSV playing home cups, CL and pushing for CL in league. the guys in the EPL aren't CL level, but are still pushing every match for possible european spots (or for promotion, in the championship). but that apparently hasn't helped.
 
El Floppo said:
B Maverick said:
I admit, I am still one saying we need to be encouraging most of our potential USMNT players to be going to Europe. But they need to be playing, consistently and meaningfully.
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we have a LOT of guys doing exactly that. 7 or 8 at Juve/Milan/PSV playing home cups, CL and pushing for CL in league. the guys in the EPL aren't CL level, but are still pushing every match for possible european spots (or for promotion, in the championship). but that apparently hasn't helped.
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This weekend aside as it was more a lack of intensity and heart than anything else, I think it has helped though. And hopefully Poch can help put them in the right place and push us into the next stage. Unfortunately the lack of meaningful games (no knock out rounds, no bid games outside concacaf, etc) will make it difficult on him to work it out. And hope the team doesn't play like they've already qualified....
 
B Maverick said:
BassNBrew said:
NewlyRetired said:
I have been reading the "talent vs trying" debate.

While I have lamented at times that the current group's effort and energy level could be better, I never really considered them to be dogs either.

Some one today posted this lineup from the 2014 World Cup

..............................Howard

Fab..................Omar.............Besler.............DMB

..........................Jones..........Beckerman

Zusi............................Bradley............................Davis

..............................Dempsey



Look at how weak this looks from a club perspective compared to what we have today. This is with DMB on literally his last legs because we could not find any one else to even pretend to be a LB, along with MLS/Liga MX lifers in Besler, Zusi, Davis, Beckerman, and Omar.

It does make you wonder how a team like this one in 2014 appeared more competitive than our current group.........
Click to expand...

Boot it and chase has always been an effective strategy from the little kids to the pros. Leicester won an EPL title with it. Our decline in results aligns perfectly with US soccer mandate to build out of the back.
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Too bad we don't have a Jamie Vardy type....

I do believe we should be much better now than "boot and chase", I do think its more than just the build out of the back ideology. I know my opinion is in the minority on this, and that's ok, but I do not like the youth soccer mentality of pushing the individual skills at the detriment of the team game. US Soccer is so focused on finding their own Messi that they are pushing kids to dribble, dribble, dribble (and not wanting coaches to encourage passing) and elevating the individual over the team. I think it minimizes creativity in that they don't see the line breaking pass, or the teammate making the right run. Is that leading to issues at the national or MLS levels? Not sure. But I do see a lack of field vision and the ability to serve at times, and that is a problem.

I also don't like the no heading until you are 12 rule (watching too many 14-15 year olds duck or go in wrong with their head since they aren't taught), but I get the reasoning and not a hill I am going to die on.
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I wasn't advocating for it because long term it won't compete against the best in Europe. 11 Labrons and MJS would do quite well in Concacaf if one of two of them was skilled. I may be misremembering, but I recall our guys being bigger and faster. The other team would keep possession most of the game and we would get a few breaks each game that often reulted in goals and a result. Used to dominate set pieces too.
 
BassNBrew said:
B Maverick said:
BassNBrew said:
NewlyRetired said:
I have been reading the "talent vs trying" debate.

While I have lamented at times that the current group's effort and energy level could be better, I never really considered them to be dogs either.

Some one today posted this lineup from the 2014 World Cup

..............................Howard

Fab..................Omar.............Besler.............DMB

..........................Jones..........Beckerman

Zusi............................Bradley............................Davis

..............................Dempsey



Look at how weak this looks from a club perspective compared to what we have today. This is with DMB on literally his last legs because we could not find any one else to even pretend to be a LB, along with MLS/Liga MX lifers in Besler, Zusi, Davis, Beckerman, and Omar.

It does make you wonder how a team like this one in 2014 appeared more competitive than our current group.........
Click to expand...

Boot it and chase has always been an effective strategy from the little kids to the pros. Leicester won an EPL title with it. Our decline in results aligns perfectly with US soccer mandate to build out of the back.
Click to expand...
Too bad we don't have a Jamie Vardy type....

I do believe we should be much better now than "boot and chase", I do think its more than just the build out of the back ideology. I know my opinion is in the minority on this, and that's ok, but I do not like the youth soccer mentality of pushing the individual skills at the detriment of the team game. US Soccer is so focused on finding their own Messi that they are pushing kids to dribble, dribble, dribble (and not wanting coaches to encourage passing) and elevating the individual over the team. I think it minimizes creativity in that they don't see the line breaking pass, or the teammate making the right run. Is that leading to issues at the national or MLS levels? Not sure. But I do see a lack of field vision and the ability to serve at times, and that is a problem.

I also don't like the no heading until you are 12 rule (watching too many 14-15 year olds duck or go in wrong with their head since they aren't taught), but I get the reasoning and not a hill I am going to die on.
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I wasn't advocating for it because long term it won't compete against the best in Europe. 11 Labrons and MJS would do quite well in Concacaf if one of two of them was skilled. I may be misremembering, but I recall our guys being bigger and faster. The other team would keep possession most of the game and we would get a few breaks each game that often reulted in goals and a result. Used to dominate set pieces too.
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The world has caught up to the US in terms of conditioning and athleticism in many ways though.
 
NewlyRetired said:
We are seeing some evidence that heart may be just as important as talent.
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I think it's telling that the last few years the US has looked the best against Mexico by far as that's the one game that the players seem to want to win badly. Some of that may be that Mexico plays more open against the US than others, but it's not like absolutely everybody else is bunkering, and the US has consistently looked flat against pretty much all the rest, regardless of setup. Realistically though if the players don't have that fire when they put on the shirt, I'm not really sure what a coach can do about it.
 
This is getting worse for Canada

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Dreesen(Bayern CEO) "We demand that Canada Soccer fully investigate the events and we reserve the right to take legal action. Sending an injured player with a damaged knee on a 12-hour flight without a thorough medical test is grossly negligent and a clear violation of medical due diligence​



After the injury (6th minute) and the substitution (12th minute) in the third place match against the United States, Canadian association initially gave the all-clear and put Alphonso Davies on the plane back to Munich on Monday. After his return, Davies still complained of problems. Only after examinations by Bayern's team doctor, Prof. Dr. Peter Ueblacker (47), and an MRI at Säbener Straße was the diagnosis of injury confirmed.

Jan-Christian Dreesen "Overall, the participation of Davies, who already had muscular problems before the game, in a match of little sporting significance is, in our view, completely incomprehensible. Phonzy is not to blame – he is the captain, he wants to take responsibility. But precisely because Canada, as the World Cup host, has already qualified for the 2026 World Cup, you can't take any health risks with a leading player like him."
 
NewlyRetired said:
This is getting worse for Canada

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Dreesen(Bayern CEO) "We demand that Canada Soccer fully investigate the events and we reserve the right to take legal action. Sending an injured player with a damaged knee on a 12-hour flight without a thorough medical test is grossly negligent and a clear violation of medical due diligence​



After the injury (6th minute) and the substitution (12th minute) in the third place match against the United States, Canadian association initially gave the all-clear and put Alphonso Davies on the plane back to Munich on Monday. After his return, Davies still complained of problems. Only after examinations by Bayern's team doctor, Prof. Dr. Peter Ueblacker (47), and an MRI at Säbener Straße was the diagnosis of injury confirmed.

Jan-Christian Dreesen "Overall, the participation of Davies, who already had muscular problems before the game, in a match of little sporting significance is, in our view, completely incomprehensible. Phonzy is not to blame – he is the captain, he wants to take responsibility. But precisely because Canada, as the World Cup host, has already qualified for the 2026 World Cup, you can't take any health risks with a leading player like him."
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Oh Canada.
 
NewlyRetired said:
But precisely because Canada, as the World Cup host, has already qualified for the 2026 World Cup, you can't take any health risks with a leading player like him."
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Only quibble is with this bit - all players should be equal in the eyes of the staff. A player is either fit to play or not - does not matter if they are a :leading player" or not.

But, I think this is also part of a bigger FIFA issue - in the haste to make more money, clubs and national teams are putting stresses on players that really have not been there in years past.

It won't happen, but maybe FIFA and the federations need to reach an accommodation on the number of times a player can be called into the national team over a calendar year.

For example - between now and the WC - there are 7 international windows - 8 if players are also involved in AFCON. Maybe limit call-ups to 5 of 7 (or 6 of 8). That ensures these players get some breaks in the schedule during the year, which allows a little more rest/recovery.

It will never happen, but it should - particularly when WC qualifying becomes less stressful for the majority of teams.
 
TennesseeJed said:
NewlyRetired said:
But precisely because Canada, as the World Cup host, has already qualified for the 2026 World Cup, you can't take any health risks with a leading player like him."
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Only quibble is with this bit - all players should be equal in the eyes of the staff. A player is either fit to play or not - does not matter if they are a :leading player" or not.

But, I think this is also part of a bigger FIFA issue - in the haste to make more money, clubs and national teams are putting stresses on players that really have not been there in years past.

It won't happen, but maybe FIFA and the federations need to reach an accommodation on the number of times a player can be called into the national team over a calendar year.

For example - between now and the WC - there are 7 international windows - 8 if players are also involved in AFCON. Maybe limit call-ups to 5 of 7 (or 6 of 8). That ensures these players get some breaks in the schedule during the year, which allows a little more rest/recovery.

It will never happen, but it should - particularly when WC qualifying becomes less stressful for the majority of teams.
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I thought you might head into a "pitch count" idea... Like X amount of games or minutes between club and country before mandatory shutdown.
 
BassNBrew said:
Thanks @TripItUp If you hadn't run off GGG we might be able to win an occasional game. If Poch had done this in Mexico he would be fired tomorrow.

3 years where we at least maintained possession and looked look a soccer team at least int he back 2/3's of the field. Anyone think this team plays England to a draw? Remember win we used to win titles of Mexico? Or at least used to lose to Mexico in title games?
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I accept full responsibility.

This is all my fault.
 
From reddit

Noahkai Banks' market value rose 3900% from 150000€ to 6 million €, making him the fourth most valuable player of the team!
 
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TennesseeJed said:
NewlyRetired said:
But precisely because Canada, as the World Cup host, has already qualified for the 2026 World Cup, you can't take any health risks with a leading player like him."
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Only quibble is with this bit - all players should be equal in the eyes of the staff. A player is either fit to play or not - does not matter if they are a :leading player" or not.

But, I think this is also part of a bigger FIFA issue - in the haste to make more money, clubs and national teams are putting stresses on players that really have not been there in years past.

It won't happen, but maybe FIFA and the federations need to reach an accommodation on the number of times a player can be called into the national team over a calendar year.

For example - between now and the WC - there are 7 international windows - 8 if players are also involved in AFCON. Maybe limit call-ups to 5 of 7 (or 6 of 8). That ensures these players get some breaks in the schedule during the year, which allows a little more rest/recovery.

It will never happen, but it should - particularly when WC qualifying becomes less stressful for the majority of teams.
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Not sure if this was mentioned earlier but I've had a discussion about the negative impact the Nations League has had on player health. The conferences were unhappy with "Friendlies" and their lack of appeal. So to make the games more meaningful they created the Nations League as a competition. Meaningful games means more fans and money right?

The downside means that the top players have to be called in every window. Long flights for some, they get no time to rest and too many games means fatigue and more injuries.
You also do not get a chance to find the next star because of the lack of "Friendlies" and games you can call in anyone for.
 
This is the kid that debuted in the USL at just 13. He is said to be a fantastic player for his age but we did not follow him too closely because he has only represented Mexico at the youth level (he is eligible for Mexico via his maternal grand father I believe)

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Call incoming from @USYNT

Da'vian Kimbrough will join the U.S. U-15 Men’s Youth National Team for a training camp in West Palm Beach, Florida March 30 to April 6.
 
B Maverick said:
TennesseeJed said:
NewlyRetired said:
But precisely because Canada, as the World Cup host, has already qualified for the 2026 World Cup, you can't take any health risks with a leading player like him."
Click to expand...

Only quibble is with this bit - all players should be equal in the eyes of the staff. A player is either fit to play or not - does not matter if they are a :leading player" or not.

But, I think this is also part of a bigger FIFA issue - in the haste to make more money, clubs and national teams are putting stresses on players that really have not been there in years past.

It won't happen, but maybe FIFA and the federations need to reach an accommodation on the number of times a player can be called into the national team over a calendar year.

For example - between now and the WC - there are 7 international windows - 8 if players are also involved in AFCON. Maybe limit call-ups to 5 of 7 (or 6 of 8). That ensures these players get some breaks in the schedule during the year, which allows a little more rest/recovery.

It will never happen, but it should - particularly when WC qualifying becomes less stressful for the majority of teams.
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Not sure if this was mentioned earlier but I've had a discussion about the negative impact the Nations League has had on player health. The conferences were unhappy with "Friendlies" and their lack of appeal. So to make the games more meaningful they created the Nations League as a competition. Meaningful games means more fans and money right?

The downside means that the top players have to be called in every window. Long flights for some, they get no time to rest and too many games means fatigue and more injuries.
You also do not get a chance to find the next star because of the lack of "Friendlies" and games you can call in anyone for.
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Nations League also significantly lowers the diversity of opponents. It feels like the US (and probably all teams) are stuck in a cycle where they have to play 95% of their games against teams in their own confederation.

I reached the point where I am actually excited that Saudi Arabia is in the Gold Cup just for the hope that the US may get to see a different type of opponent.
 
NewlyRetired said:
B Maverick said:
TennesseeJed said:
NewlyRetired said:
But precisely because Canada, as the World Cup host, has already qualified for the 2026 World Cup, you can't take any health risks with a leading player like him."
Click to expand...

Only quibble is with this bit - all players should be equal in the eyes of the staff. A player is either fit to play or not - does not matter if they are a :leading player" or not.

But, I think this is also part of a bigger FIFA issue - in the haste to make more money, clubs and national teams are putting stresses on players that really have not been there in years past.

It won't happen, but maybe FIFA and the federations need to reach an accommodation on the number of times a player can be called into the national team over a calendar year.

For example - between now and the WC - there are 7 international windows - 8 if players are also involved in AFCON. Maybe limit call-ups to 5 of 7 (or 6 of 8). That ensures these players get some breaks in the schedule during the year, which allows a little more rest/recovery.

It will never happen, but it should - particularly when WC qualifying becomes less stressful for the majority of teams.
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Not sure if this was mentioned earlier but I've had a discussion about the negative impact the Nations League has had on player health. The conferences were unhappy with "Friendlies" and their lack of appeal. So to make the games more meaningful they created the Nations League as a competition. Meaningful games means more fans and money right?

The downside means that the top players have to be called in every window. Long flights for some, they get no time to rest and too many games means fatigue and more injuries.
You also do not get a chance to find the next star because of the lack of "Friendlies" and games you can call in anyone for.
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Nations League also significantly lowers the diversity of opponents. It feels like the US (and probably all teams) are stuck in a cycle where they have to play 95% of their games against teams in their own confederation.

I reached the point where I am actually excited that Saudi Arabia is in the Gold Cup just for the hope that the US may get to see a different type of opponent.
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Oh for sure. That's why the Copa was so huge to be in last year. Potential to play someone different, someone you aren't favored against.

It is also why they need to make the Gold Cup every 4 years. Make it a grander event than it is. Heck, invite the highest ranked Euro teams that didn't qualify for the Euros to join. Or any teams in other confederations that aren't in their own tournament or qualifying matches to play. 1-2 from each. Sure you won't get the big countries (esp from Europe), but at least there will be someone other than the same ole same ole to play against.
 
I guess I should not be surprised but the Crystal Palace coach will not start Turner in the upcoming FA Cup quarter final game. Turner has started all cup games this year for Palace I believe.
 
Sargent is now in 3rd for the scoring lead in the Championship.

The players in 2nd and 1st have played 14 and 9 more games respectively, than Sargent.
 
El Floppo said:
El Floppo said:
NewlyRetired said:
Weston starts, Weah on bench for new coach.
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I was going to guess the opposite would happen. Not that Swag has been poor, but feel like he's been in the mix when the team has played poorly... His fault or not
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At the half.

Espn stat tracker showing swag on the LMF, in a 3-4-2-1, which implies he's been asked to defend as a LB too.
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Weston played the whole game, Weah was a late sub.

Juve won1-0
 
Jesus ****ing Christ. Is there any hope for this guy?

At least with Turner, coming back and playing in MLS or another league would be fine. The problems with Gio seem to run deep.

This is unacceptable, IMO, for a healthy player hoping to get on the field.

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Gio Reyna is an alternative for Julian Brandt at number 10, but the American has reportedly been in poor condition for months and is therefore unlikely to be able to promote himself. @SportBild
 
NewlyRetired said:
Jesus ****ing Christ. Is there any hope for this guy?

At least with Turner, coming back and playing in MLS or another league would be fine. The problems with Gio seem to run deep.

This is unacceptable, IMO, for a healthy player hoping to get on the field.

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Gio Reyna is an alternative for Julian Brandt at number 10, but the American has reportedly been in poor condition for months and is therefore unlikely to be able to promote himself. @SportBild
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Hopefully this is a translation thing, or something about the injury limiting his ability to get fully fit and NOT about him just being lazy.
 
El Floppo said:
NewlyRetired said:
Jesus ****ing Christ. Is there any hope for this guy?

At least with Turner, coming back and playing in MLS or another league would be fine. The problems with Gio seem to run deep.

This is unacceptable, IMO, for a healthy player hoping to get on the field.

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Gio Reyna is an alternative for Julian Brandt at number 10, but the American has reportedly been in poor condition for months and is therefore unlikely to be able to promote himself. @SportBild
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Hopefully this is a translation thing, or something about the injury limiting his ability to get fully fit and NOT about him just being lazy.
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I hope so but when coach after coach after coach seems to find ways to not play him, it just makes me feel like there is something fundamentally wrong with the player, and we know it is not talent level.
 
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