Vegas just isn’t fun anymore…. (1 Viewer)

[Major]

Chandelier Bar at Cosmo,

So many good looking women there.

Cosmo is the first place I actually stayed on the strip. Definitely recommend it. During my prime Vegas days I used to enjoy the Hard Rock and Palms so I rarely went to the Strip. Back then Vegas didn't cater much to the younger crowd so those places were goldmines, especially their pools. Terrible place for reading books.

 

[FairWarning]

Chandelier Bar at Cosmo,

So many good looking women there.

Cosmo is the first place I actually stayed on the strip. Definitely recommend it. During my prime Vegas days I used to enjoy the Hard Rock and Palms so I rarely went to the Strip. Back then Vegas didn't cater much to the younger crowd so those places were goldmines, especially their pools. Terrible place for reading books.

Actually Cosmo was the first center strip casino that catered to the yuppies. I used to stay at Planet Hollywood, but hung out in the chandelier lounge at the Cosmo, fun casino.

 

[offdee]

@offdee

Thoughts?

It’s been fun for me! What’s the question?

One has been answered

Have you noticed the changes (recent price hikes)?
How have they impacted you, if at all?
How often do you visit the strip?
Still "ok" retirement target?

I don’t gamble so can’t comment on that side. I don’t go to the Strip very often..in my 16 months here have probably been to the Strip about 6 times total. It’s usually just to meet up with someone visiting from out of town.

I live in Summerlin which is about 15 mins from the Strip , but Summerlin has Red Rock Casino, Tivoli Village, Boca Park, Downtown Summerlin, Arts District and the Durango Casino which just opened up about 2 months ago all within 10 mins of me. There really is no need for me to bother with the Strip.

In terms of price increases I have noticed it a bit but I don’t internalize it too much. I enjoy upscale spots and living in a city like this you just assume you’ll be paying more for food and entertainment. I’m a single guy dating, with no kids and make a good salary so I’m doing fine (although dating can get expensive, but just part of the dance)

But in terms of living, weather, drivability and entertainment there isn’t a place I’d rather move to personally. And it’s only growing…Oakland A’s here in a couple years, an NBA team is inevitable, and approval for Hollywood Hills 2.0 just got approved. But, with all that, real estate will become even more ridiculously overpriced and prices overall will continue to rise.

Thank you.

I am not a big gambler either, but still liked to linger a while over blackjack, some poker, and pei gow. the increased limits has altered my desire to do so.

every trip i had a personal budget for gambling. there were times i have won my trip +, and times i blew my gambling budget quickly. I tend to have a larger budget for restaurants and do not mind going over that budget

I also see the resort prices rise at a disproportionate rate. i stayed comfortably at venetian, palazzo, Bellagio, Mandalay bay, mgm... other years due to group consensus we stayed at other places some years. it always seemed as if a bargain could be found if one hunted. those are harder to come by now imo.

Yeah I can see the hotel prices be incredibly high and gambling increase...luckily neither of those I need to worry about living here.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

The scenery at Cosmo is out of this world.

 

[massraider]

The scenery at Cosmo is out of this world.

They have a smaller casino, which really helps the party vibe. You can hit a golf ball though Palazzo's casino, and not hit anyone.

Same way as Hard Rock back in the day. Small casino, one central bar to hang out at. And everyone staying there makes their way through that bar for the most part. Best way to bump into that bachelorette party from the pool.

 

[nirad3]

@offdee

Thoughts?

It’s been fun for me! What’s the question?

One has been answered

Have you noticed the changes (recent price hikes)?
How have they impacted you, if at all?
How often do you visit the strip?
Still "ok" retirement target?

I don’t gamble so can’t comment on that side. I don’t go to the Strip very often..in my 16 months here have probably been to the Strip about 6 times total. It’s usually just to meet up with someone visiting from out of town.

I live in Summerlin which is about 15 mins from the Strip , but Summerlin has Red Rock Casino, Tivoli Village, Boca Park, Downtown Summerlin, Arts District and the Durango Casino which just opened up about 2 months ago all within 10 mins of me. There really is no need for me to bother with the Strip.

In terms of price increases I have noticed it a bit but I don’t internalize it too much. I enjoy upscale spots and living in a city like this you just assume you’ll be paying more for food and entertainment. I’m a single guy dating, with no kids and make a good salary so I’m doing fine (although dating can get expensive, but just part of the dance)

But in terms of living, weather, drivability and entertainment there isn’t a place I’d rather move to personally. And it’s only growing…Oakland A’s here in a couple years, an NBA team is inevitable, and approval for Hollywood Hills 2.0 just got approved. But, with all that, real estate will become even more ridiculously overpriced and prices overall will continue to rise.

Thank you.

I am not a big gambler either, but still liked to linger a while over blackjack, some poker, and pei gow. the increased limits has altered my desire to do so.

PEI GOWWWWWWWWWW

Oops, wrong board.

Those were the days, eh?

 

[Drunken knight]

@offdee

Thoughts?

It’s been fun for me! What’s the question?

One has been answered

Have you noticed the changes (recent price hikes)?
How have they impacted you, if at all?
How often do you visit the strip?
Still "ok" retirement target?

I don’t gamble so can’t comment on that side. I don’t go to the Strip very often..in my 16 months here have probably been to the Strip about 6 times total. It’s usually just to meet up with someone visiting from out of town.

I live in Summerlin which is about 15 mins from the Strip , but Summerlin has Red Rock Casino, Tivoli Village, Boca Park, Downtown Summerlin, Arts District and the Durango Casino which just opened up about 2 months ago all within 10 mins of me. There really is no need for me to bother with the Strip.

In terms of price increases I have noticed it a bit but I don’t internalize it too much. I enjoy upscale spots and living in a city like this you just assume you’ll be paying more for food and entertainment. I’m a single guy dating, with no kids and make a good salary so I’m doing fine (although dating can get expensive, but just part of the dance)

But in terms of living, weather, drivability and entertainment there isn’t a place I’d rather move to personally. And it’s only growing…Oakland A’s here in a couple years, an NBA team is inevitable, and approval for Hollywood Hills 2.0 just got approved. But, with all that, real estate will become even more ridiculously overpriced and prices overall will continue to rise.

Thank you.

I am not a big gambler either, but still liked to linger a while over blackjack, some poker, and pei gow. the increased limits has altered my desire to do so.

PEI GOWWWWWWWWWW

Oops, wrong board.

Those were the days, eh?

Great trips!

 

[ghostguy123]

The last time I was in Vegas 10 or more years ago, some guy was betting #17 on roulette, just 17, like 200 bucks a spin, but he was as stacking his chips like a foot in the air. The one time I told him to put his drink on top of it. He did, and of course it spilled everywhere on the table.
The dealer grabbed a rag, sopped some up, and just kept spinning.
They still that lenient with drunk idiots?

 

[Major]

The last time I was in Vegas 10 or more years ago, some guy was betting #17 on roulette, just 17, like 200 bucks a spin, but he was as stacking his chips like a foot in the air. The one time I told him to put his drink on top of it. He did, and of course it spilled everywhere on the table.
The dealer grabbed a rag, sopped some up, and just kept spinning.
They still that lenient with drunk idiots?

Only if the drunk idiots are betting big

 

[Snotbubbles]

I remember when you could go to the Frontier, O'Sheas or Slots of Fun for $1 blackjack tables. Then it all became search for the $5 tables. Now it's $25 mins everywhere.

Bill's was a favorite!!!

Barbary Coast!

I think Hooters had $1 blackjack. It was a couple years ago though so I don't know if they still do or if it's still there.

 

[The Z Machine]

I remember when you could go to the Frontier, O'Sheas or Slots of Fun for $1 blackjack tables. Then it all became search for the $5 tables. Now it's $25 mins everywhere.

Bill's was a favorite!!!

Barbary Coast!

I think Hooters had $1 blackjack. It was a couple years ago though so I don't know if they still do or if it's still there.

Still there. It's called "OYO" and they have $1 blackjack and $10 caps.

Place is a total dump though. Stained as a mofo.

 

[eoMMan]

I remember when you could go to the Frontier, O'Sheas or Slots of Fun for $1 blackjack tables. Then it all became search for the $5 tables. Now it's $25 mins everywhere.

Bill's was a favorite!!!

Barbary Coast!

I think Hooters had $1 blackjack. It was a couple years ago though so I don't know if they still do or if it's still there.

Still there. It's called "OYO" and they have $1 blackjack and $10 caps.

Place is a total dump though. Stained as a mofo.

Funny you mention them…I got an email from JustVacation! this evening advertising $15/night rooms there. I didn’t recognize the OYO name but figured it probably wasn’t the nicest place.

 

[Joe Bryant]

The last time I was in Vegas 10 or more years ago, some guy was betting #17 on roulette, just 17, like 200 bucks a spin, but he was as stacking his chips like a foot in the air. The one time I told him to put his drink on top of it. He did, and of course it spilled everywhere on the table.
The dealer grabbed a rag, sopped some up, and just kept spinning.
They still that lenient with drunk idiots?

LIke most things, depends on how much they're spending. And how much of an idiot they're being.

 

[B Maverick]

I remember when you could go to the Frontier, O'Sheas or Slots of Fun for $1 blackjack tables. Then it all became search for the $5 tables. Now it's $25 mins everywhere.

Bill's was a favorite!!!

Barbary Coast!

I think Hooters had $1 blackjack. It was a couple years ago though so I don't know if they still do or if it's still there.

Still there. It's called "OYO" and they have $1 blackjack and $10 caps.

Place is a total dump though. Stained as a mofo.

Funny you mention them…I got an email from JustVacation! this evening advertising $15/night rooms there. I didn’t recognize the OYO name but figured it probably wasn’t the nicest place.

Was there a couple years ago. We were staying at MGM and ran across the street for cheaper tables. It was bad then, can't imagine its any better.

Its next door to the Tropicana, isn't that where the A's new baseball stadium is going?

 

[offdee]

Its next door to the Tropicana, isn't that where the A's new baseball stadium is going?

Yep

 

[The Z Machine]

The Trop is closing next week for good I think. I stopped in there to pour out some liquor for the first place in Vegas I ever stayed. I do remember the pool well, getting margs and coronas there using my brother's ID when I was 19.

Also remember getting smashed at O'Sheas and losing all $120 I had playing roulette so I had to stumble my way back to the Trop on foot cup I had no money.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

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[Bossman]

Is Ellis Island still a thing?
I remember going there with my brother and adult nephew for cheap surf & turf, and staying for the cheap blackjack
... while they continued to bring me their own brand of stout in a proper pint glass ... for free. (it is very delicious)
We got pretty rowdy (in a fun way), yappin it up with the dealers, waitresses, pit boss, and whoever sat at the table with us. Loud noises every time we'd win.
People filling in behind us to see what all the commotion was about. We made lots of friends that night.
I left there in the early a.m. hours with about the same money that I started with and was walking sideways.
Because we signed up for their comp card, they texted us the next day to offer a comped BBQ dinner for all of us.
We showed up, ate our free dinner, (chicken AND ribs), played some more blackjack, and the pit boss proceeded to tell us about the rowdy bunch that was in there last night.

 

[kevzilla]

Is Ellis Island still a thing?

Yes! They still have some good deals, but they have upgraded their facility a bit. The microbrewery has been relocated to St. George, and that space has been turned into The Front Yard, with two levels of dining and video poker at the bar. It's glassed in and can be opened up during good weather, which is more often than you might think. It also has shades so no one has to bake in the summer. And, they bought the world's largest Super 8 that was next door and renovated it, which came in handy when the F1 track was laid out in front of them.

If karaoke is your thing, you really want to go to Ellis Island (9PM-3AM daily). If you want to sing, go early. After midnight, all the Strip's backup singers roll in, and you're not good enough. Still not a bad hang, and you might get a drunken Real Housewife...or Drew Carey...or Nic Cage.

 

[The Z Machine]

Slots O' Fun was actually pretty cool. Just went last week. I gave the bartender a $10 tip on $20 worth of drinks and it was like I made his day.

Not like the Flamingo jagoff bartender that didn't give me any service for 20 mins while I played video poker in front of him.

 

[Eephus]

Is Ellis Island still a thing?

Yes! They still have some good deals, but they have upgraded their facility a bit. The microbrewery has been relocated to St. George, and that space has been turned into The Front Yard, with two levels of dining and video poker at the bar. It's glassed in and can be opened up during good weather, which is more often than you might think. It also has shades so no one has to bake in the summer. And, they bought the world's largest Super 8 that was next door and renovated it, which came in handy when the F1 track was laid out in front of them.

If karaoke is your thing, you really want to go to Ellis Island (9PM-3AM daily). If you want to sing, go early. After midnight, all the Strip's backup singers roll in, and you're not good enough. Still not a bad hang, and you might get a drunken Real Housewife...or Drew Carey...or Nic Cage.

Their $9.99 steak and eggs breakfast really hits the spot at 3AM.

 

[Pipes]

I guess my experience in Vegas is not the norm here. I stay on the Strip mostly (Vdara) or sometimes on Fremont St (Circa this year), but don't gamble and seldom dine in any casino resort. As someone else pointed out, there is a lot of great food off the Strip and away from downtown. Plenty of other things to do too. Each time I visit, I travel to at least one of the area state parks and/or national parks. I do see shows from time to time. I am seeing Penn and Teller on 4/2 and a concert at Virgin on 4/4 (Ministry). I do enjoy a good meal and people watching early on a Saturday morning at Mon Ami Gabi, but I seldom actually spend time doing anything else on the Strip. Things are expensive there for sure, but I guess it's really no different than anywher else. People keep going, gambling, and dining so it must be working for them.

I try to avoid the Strip altogether, and have gambled less than $100 total, in a dozen trips over the years. Unless I’m with my wife, stay in an Airbnb in Summerlin and eat in smaller, local restaurants. Rarely will go to shows, at Mrs. Xylem’s behest.

But for me, it’s home base for climbing in Red Rock, or a starting point for excursions to national parks.

Completely different world from the typical Vegas experience. Yet it’s still one of my favorite places, and a world class destination for outdoor enthusiasts.

I hit the strip on occasion to hit a show or a Knights game but this has been my experience as well. My aunt live out there and every other time we visit we do a major side trip. Have done Sedona, Grand Canyon, San Diego and most recently Antelope Canyon. The times we don't do that we spend a day hiking at Red Rock. definitely will be branching out more our next visit. If I get the urge to gamble it's less than a 10 minute drive to South Point. Love it out there

Thanks. Can you elaborate on what you love about South Point?

I’ve never seen it really crowded and the sport books is nice. Seems like a country crowd hang out there too and theirs a Steak and Shake on premises too. Kitty corner from South Pointe is a place called Yanni’s. Amazing gyros and Greek fries.

 

[Brew Swillis]

Slots O' Fun was actually pretty cool. Just went last week. I gave the bartender a $10 tip on $20 worth of drinks and it was like I made his day.

Not like the Flamingo jagoff bartender that didn't give me any service for 20 mins while I played video poker in front of him.

I'm guessing you mean Bugsy's Bar. I swear to Christ, I have never been able to get a drink within 20 minutes of sitting down there.

 

[Shula-holic]

Good luck finding any 3:2 tables on blackjack now. I was invited not to play anymore back in Dec 2005, but I could squeeze in a few hands without drawing too much heat if I didn't sit for too long in one spot after that for quite a number of years. Now, you just can't find those tables very often. If you do, it's typically $100 minimums and of course being watched like a hawk, constantly asked about players card and ID, etc.

 

[dkp993]

The Trop is closing next week for good I think. I stopped in there to pour out some liquor for the first place in Vegas I ever stayed. I do remember the pool well, getting margs and coronas there using my brother's ID when I was 19.

Also remember getting smashed at O'Sheas and losing all $120 I had playing roulette so I had to stumble my way back to the Trop on foot cup I had no money.

Trop is where my parents took me when I was a kid (8 and up). The water slid was super fun and the arcade under the casino was where I spent most my time.

 

[The Z Machine]

Good luck finding any 3:2 tables on blackjack now. I was invited not to play anymore back in Dec 2005, but I could squeeze in a few hands without drawing too much heat if I didn't sit for too long in one spot after that for quite a number of years. Now, you just can't find those tables very often. If you do, it's typically $100 minimums and of course being watched like a hawk, constantly asked about players card and ID, etc.

I suck at blackjack so they always invite me to play, regardless of mins or table rules. I'm a cooler at the table every time.

 

[Major]

Good luck finding any 3:2 tables on blackjack now. I was invited not to play anymore back in Dec 2005, but I could squeeze in a few hands without drawing too much heat if I didn't sit for too long in one spot after that for quite a number of years. Now, you just can't find those tables very often. If you do, it's typically $100 minimums and of course being watched like a hawk, constantly asked about players card and ID, etc.

Yeah, those 6-5 tables are infuriating. Are you a known counter? I always keep a rough count in my head and vary my bets but never enough to get called off. These videos are pretty interesting of what a counter and his team deal with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsxQzewm0zA

 

[Terminalxylem]

Good luck finding any 3:2 tables on blackjack now. I was invited not to play anymore back in Dec 2005, but I could squeeze in a few hands without drawing too much heat if I didn't sit for too long in one spot after that for quite a number of years. Now, you just can't find those tables very often. If you do, it's typically $100 minimums and of course being watched like a hawk, constantly asked about players card and ID, etc.

What does this mean? I’m not a gambler, so I don’t even know what 3:2 means, but understand the game of blackjack.

Are you saying you did so well, they asked you to stop playing?

 

[massraider]

What does this mean? I’m not a gambler, so I don’t even know what 3:2 means, but understand the game of blackjack.

Are you saying you did so well, they asked you to stop playing?

If they think you counting cards, which is not illegal, they can kick you out.

They don't need to let anyone play.

 

[Terminalxylem]

What does this mean? I’m not a gambler, so I don’t even know what 3:2 means, but understand the game of blackjack.

Are you saying you did so well, they asked you to stop playing?

If they think you counting cards, which is not illegal, they can kick you out.

They don't need to let anyone play.

How often does that occur, roughly, and what recourse does the gambler have, if any?

 

[Osaurus]

Heading there now. I’ll report on how terrible it is later

 

[Desert_Power]

Heading there now. I’ll report on how terrible it is later

Thoughts and prayers

 

[Willie Neslon]

Heading there now. I’ll report on how terrible it is later

Have fun at Circa. If anyone gives you any crap just drop my name.

 

[General Malaise]

What does this mean? I’m not a gambler, so I don’t even know what 3:2 means, but understand the game of blackjack.

Are you saying you did so well, they asked you to stop playing?

If they think you counting cards, which is not illegal, they can kick you out.

They don't need to let anyone play.

How often does that occur, roughly, and what recourse does the gambler have, if any?

I don't know how often people do it now as the casinos have seemingly all moved to several decks with continuous shuffles going on, so card counting is a lot trickier. If you're looking for a fun read, Bringing Down the House is about a group of MIT students who card counted their way to millions.

Once a card counter is spotted, management will ask them to cash out and leave and will be watching for them to return where they will be uninvited to play. They might even call other casinos to warn them about about a potential card counter in the area. They can't take any winnings, but they can tell you not to ever come back and they can be persuasive in ways other businesses haven't mastered.

 

[Gally]

We are a group that goes out for the national bowling tournament.

The Military Bowling tourney in August? I will be there for that. Been there the last few years. It's awesome. Southpoint is great for that and has enough you never have to leave the area. All the restaurants are good and enough variety that you don't get bored.

 

[dino259]

We are a group that goes out for the national bowling tournament.

The Military Bowling tourney in August? I will be there for that. Been there the last few years. It's awesome. Southpoint is great for that and has enough you never have to leave the area. All the restaurants are good and enough variety that you don't get bored.

USBC nationals. We bowl end of April.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

We are a group that goes out for the national bowling tournament.

The Military Bowling tourney in August? I will be there for that. Been there the last few years. It's awesome. Southpoint is great for that and has enough you never have to leave the area. All the restaurants are good and enough variety that you don't get bored.

Say what now? How did I not know of this potential boondogle

 

[Gally]

We are a group that goes out for the national bowling tournament.

The Military Bowling tourney in August? I will be there for that. Been there the last few years. It's awesome. Southpoint is great for that and has enough you never have to leave the area. All the restaurants are good and enough variety that you don't get bored.

Say what now? How did I not know of this potential boondogle

It's a huge tourney that goes basically for the month of August. It's in different flights and your team bowls for three days. Half of your team must be active, retired, reserved military (so 2 of 4 players) nad it's a handicap based tournament. It's a ton of fun and you can win decent money. My first year I ended up winning $2500 between, team, doubles, singles, and overall.

High Roller Military Bowling Tourney

 

[Joe Bryant]

What does this mean? I’m not a gambler, so I don’t even know what 3:2 means, but understand the game of blackjack.

Are you saying you did so well, they asked you to stop playing?

If they think you counting cards, which is not illegal, they can kick you out.

They don't need to let anyone play.

How often does that occur, roughly, and what recourse does the gambler have, if any?

I don't know how often people do it now as the casinos have seemingly all moved to several decks with continuous shuffles going on, so card counting is a lot trickier. If you're looking for a fun read, Bringing Down the House is about a group of MIT students who card counted their way to millions.

Once a card counter is spotted, management will ask them to cash out and leave and will be watching for them to return where they will be uninvited to play. They might even call other casinos to warn them about about a potential card counter in the area. They can't take any winnings, but they can tell you not to ever come back and they can be persuasive in ways other businesses haven't mastered.

I was on a panel at MIT hosted by Jeffery Ma who was part of the Bringing Down The House book/movie. I asked him how long he could be in a big casino like Caesars before being asked to leave. He said, "30 seconds".

 

[General Malaise]

What does this mean? I’m not a gambler, so I don’t even know what 3:2 means, but understand the game of blackjack.

Are you saying you did so well, they asked you to stop playing?

If they think you counting cards, which is not illegal, they can kick you out.

They don't need to let anyone play.

How often does that occur, roughly, and what recourse does the gambler have, if any?

I don't know how often people do it now as the casinos have seemingly all moved to several decks with continuous shuffles going on, so card counting is a lot trickier. If you're looking for a fun read, Bringing Down the House is about a group of MIT students who card counted their way to millions.

Once a card counter is spotted, management will ask them to cash out and leave and will be watching for them to return where they will be uninvited to play. They might even call other casinos to warn them about about a potential card counter in the area. They can't take any winnings, but they can tell you not to ever come back and they can be persuasive in ways other businesses haven't mastered.

I was on a panel at MIT hosted by Jeremy Ma who was part of the Bringing Down The House book/movie. I asked him how long he could be in a big casino like Caesars before being asked to leave. He said, "30 seconds".

I believe it. I think it would be fascinating to learn how the casinos spot the counters.

 

[belljr]

What does this mean? I’m not a gambler, so I don’t even know what 3:2 means, but understand the game of blackjack.

Are you saying you did so well, they asked you to stop playing?

If they think you counting cards, which is not illegal, they can kick you out.

They don't need to let anyone play.

How often does that occur, roughly, and what recourse does the gambler have, if any?

I don't know how often people do it now as the casinos have seemingly all moved to several decks with continuous shuffles going on, so card counting is a lot trickier. If you're looking for a fun read, Bringing Down the House is about a group of MIT students who card counted their way to millions.

Once a card counter is spotted, management will ask them to cash out and leave and will be watching for them to return where they will be uninvited to play. They might even call other casinos to warn them about about a potential card counter in the area. They can't take any winnings, but they can tell you not to ever come back and they can be persuasive in ways other businesses haven't mastered.

I was on a panel at MIT hosted by Jeremy Ma who was part of the Bringing Down The House book/movie. I asked him how long he could be in a big casino like Caesars before being asked to leave. He said, "30 seconds".

The movie 21 based on the book was ok not as great as the book. But it had Kate Bosworth so there's that

 

[nirad3]

To add to the South Point discussion... back when WCOFF was still a thing, they held one of their drafts there. Such a great venue and honestly not all that far from the strip so it's not a huge expense to taxi/Uber down there. You could always find a good table to throw some money around, the sportsbook was solid, they had/have good food options, the list goes on.

 

[Peggy]

What does this mean? I’m not a gambler, so I don’t even know what 3:2 means, but understand the game of blackjack.

Are you saying you did so well, they asked you to stop playing?

If they think you counting cards, which is not illegal, they can kick you out.

They don't need to let anyone play.

How often does that occur, roughly, and what recourse does the gambler have, if any?

I don't know how often people do it now as the casinos have seemingly all moved to several decks with continuous shuffles going on, so card counting is a lot trickier. If you're looking for a fun read, Bringing Down the House is about a group of MIT students who card counted their way to millions.

Once a card counter is spotted, management will ask them to cash out and leave and will be watching for them to return where they will be uninvited to play. They might even call other casinos to warn them about about a potential card counter in the area. They can't take any winnings, but they can tell you not to ever come back and they can be persuasive in ways other businesses haven't mastered.

I was on a panel at MIT hosted by Jeremy Ma who was part of the Bringing Down The House book/movie. I asked him how long he could be in a big casino like Caesars before being asked to leave. He said, "30 seconds".

I believe it. I think it would be fascinating to learn how the casinos spot the counters.

Well, at it's most basic level: The casino counts too and identify anyone that raised bet amounts when the cards turn to the players advantage.

 

[Major]

What does this mean? I’m not a gambler, so I don’t even know what 3:2 means, but understand the game of blackjack.

Are you saying you did so well, they asked you to stop playing?

If they think you counting cards, which is not illegal, they can kick you out.

They don't need to let anyone play.

How often does that occur, roughly, and what recourse does the gambler have, if any?

I don't know how often people do it now as the casinos have seemingly all moved to several decks with continuous shuffles going on, so card counting is a lot trickier. If you're looking for a fun read, Bringing Down the House is about a group of MIT students who card counted their way to millions.

Once a card counter is spotted, management will ask them to cash out and leave and will be watching for them to return where they will be uninvited to play. They might even call other casinos to warn them about about a potential card counter in the area. They can't take any winnings, but they can tell you not to ever come back and they can be persuasive in ways other businesses haven't mastered.

A lot of that is covered in the video I previously posted where a known card counter implements his various strategies. Interesting watch as they bring in a hidden camera and all the drama that occasionally ensues. It's getting really tough for him as his youtube channel has grown in popularity.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

We are a group that goes out for the national bowling tournament.

The Military Bowling tourney in August? I will be there for that. Been there the last few years. It's awesome. Southpoint is great for that and has enough you never have to leave the area. All the restaurants are good and enough variety that you don't get bored.

Say what now? How did I not know of this potential boondogle

It's a huge tourney that goes basically for the month of August. It's in different flights and your team bowls for three days. Half of your team must be active, retired, reserved military (so 2 of 4 players) nad it's a handicap based tournament. It's a ton of fun and you can win decent money. My first year I ended up winning $2500 between, team, doubles, singles, and overall.

High Roller Military Bowling Tourney

ZOMG, I looked it up and it looks the team can be made up of scrubs... I'm definitely looking at 2025 to put a team together for this. Me and another buddy are probably retiring in 2025 so we would be the active and we would bring on 2 more that just retired. Time to start training the liver

 

[Todem]

A lot of great info going in this "Don't Pass Line" Vegas thread.

Already planning my birthday weekend Vegas Trip for Feb 2025.

Gonna stay on the strip....because we love the hotels.

Looking ar:

Planet Hollywood (never stayed there)

Aria (have stayed there multiple times and love it)

Cosmo (never stayed there)

MGM Grand (many times and dig the vibe)

Poker Room is an absolute must. As it's Poker every night.


Gonna hit South Point, Harahs and maybe even Ellis Island for daytime Crap's.

Just need 3 nights there. Grab 3 great dinners, one great show and hopefully a live rock concert (will see who is there in the month of February).

Looking forward to it.

 

[Desert_Power]

Time to merge with the main Vegas thread at this point?

 

[Desert_Power]

We are a group that goes out for the national bowling tournament.

The Military Bowling tourney in August? I will be there for that. Been there the last few years. It's awesome. Southpoint is great for that and has enough you never have to leave the area. All the restaurants are good and enough variety that you don't get bored.

Say what now? How did I not know of this potential boondogle

It's a huge tourney that goes basically for the month of August. It's in different flights and your team bowls for three days. Half of your team must be active, retired, reserved military (so 2 of 4 players) nad it's a handicap based tournament. It's a ton of fun and you can win decent money. My first year I ended up winning $2500 between, team, doubles, singles, and overall.

High Roller Military Bowling Tourney

ZOMG, I looked it up and it looks the team can be made up of scrubs... I'm definitely looking at 2025 to put a team together for this. Me and another buddy are probably retiring in 2025 so we would be the active and we would bring on 2 more that just retired. Time to start training the liver

This sounds like a great time

 

[Terminalxylem]

What does this mean? I’m not a gambler, so I don’t even know what 3:2 means, but understand the game of blackjack.

Are you saying you did so well, they asked you to stop playing?

If they think you counting cards, which is not illegal, they can kick you out.

They don't need to let anyone play.

How often does that occur, roughly, and what recourse does the gambler have, if any?

I don't know how often people do it now as the casinos have seemingly all moved to several decks with continuous shuffles going on, so card counting is a lot trickier. If you're looking for a fun read, Bringing Down the House is about a group of MIT students who card counted their way to millions.

Once a card counter is spotted, management will ask them to cash out and leave and will be watching for them to return where they will be uninvited to play. They might even call other casinos to warn them about about a potential card counter in the area. They can't take any winnings, but they can tell you not to ever come back and they can be persuasive in ways other businesses haven't mastered.

I was on a panel at MIT hosted by Jeremy Ma who was part of the Bringing Down The House book/movie. I asked him how long he could be in a big casino like Caesars before being asked to leave. He said, "30 seconds".

That’s nuts, considering it’s within the rules.

 

[Joe Bryant]

What does this mean? I’m not a gambler, so I don’t even know what 3:2 means, but understand the game of blackjack.

Are you saying you did so well, they asked you to stop playing?

If they think you counting cards, which is not illegal, they can kick you out.

They don't need to let anyone play.

How often does that occur, roughly, and what recourse does the gambler have, if any?

I don't know how often people do it now as the casinos have seemingly all moved to several decks with continuous shuffles going on, so card counting is a lot trickier. If you're looking for a fun read, Bringing Down the House is about a group of MIT students who card counted their way to millions.

Once a card counter is spotted, management will ask them to cash out and leave and will be watching for them to return where they will be uninvited to play. They might even call other casinos to warn them about about a potential card counter in the area. They can't take any winnings, but they can tell you not to ever come back and they can be persuasive in ways other businesses haven't mastered.

I was on a panel at MIT hosted by Jeremy Ma who was part of the Bringing Down The House book/movie. I asked him how long he could be in a big casino like Caesars before being asked to leave. He said, "30 seconds".

That’s nuts, considering it’s within the rules.

Ma laughs when he says, "What I did was not illegal. But HIGHLY discouraged."