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Vick Donates $10,000 to the familys of the Virginia Tech shooting (1 Viewer)

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hutchins929

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How Much money does this guy have? If he was donating $10,000 to each mother or father of the victems to cover funeral and burial costs then I would be impressed but 10 thousand total? come on!

 
hutchins929 said:
How Much money does this guy have? If he was donating $10,000 to each mother or father of the victems to cover funeral and burial costs then I would be impressed but 10 thousand total? come on!
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victems? Stop making up words.And you've donated 0? Who's the ######?
The Vick Foundation is collecting donations from local communities in both Atlanta and Virginia that will be placed in the United In Caring Fund for Victims of the VA Tech Tragedy and the special fund at the United Way of Montgomery, Radford and Floyd counties, which serves the Virginia Tech area.Vick's foundation said the money will be used to provide help with funeral expenses, transportation for family members and other support services.
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His foundation is working to collect even more money. How much has Manning donated? Brady? Favre? Nothing?The guy donates 10k, and gets his foundation (using his name) to get more. But he's cheap? Vick is going to do more then this forum combined for the victims, so don't worry yourself.
 
So many reasons that I hate Vick, but I still can't find any fault in a guy donating $10,000 dollars to families in crisis. Those of you that think it's not enough should post your Pay-Pal receipts showing that you've donated more before you complain.

 
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I haven't donated squat. Regardless of how much money he has, he has given more than me.

Strange what people will complain about.

 
chris1969 said:
So many reasons that I hate Vick, but I still can't find any fault in a guy donating $10,000 dollars too families in crisis. Those of you that think it's not enough should post your Pay-Pal receipts showing that you've donated more before you complain.
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Fair enough. I wouldn't mind comparing how much he donates to all charities as a % of his income vs. many of us here. It's a nice gesture, much like a sympathy card.
 
Alright, I'll just come right out with it: Michael Vick just seems like a total scumbag to me. Do I know him well enough to judge him fairly? No, of course not. Has he donated more than I have? Yes. But Vick just seems like a total dirtball to me. And when I read something like this, I can't help but think it's probably just an empty gesture to buy back some goodwill from the fans. Ten grand is nothing to Vick. And I'd be pretty surprised if Vick really plans to do much (or any) of the legwork that his foundation has committed to. I just don't think he's made much of a sacrifice here or really gone out of his way to do very much. Since he is perhaps the most famous Virginia Tech professional athlete around right now, I think something like this was probably almost expected of him.

Is this all a completely unfair assumption on my part? Probably. But I've come to expect the worst from these scumbag athletes today.

 
That's $312.50 per family. Maybe he could throw in some scratch off lottery tickets to boot. I know I know, anything is more than I gave, but you would think that a rich VT alum would give a little more.

 
Borat said:
Alright, I'll just come right out with it: Michael Vick just seems like a total scumbag to me. Do I know him well enough to judge him fairly? No, of course not. Has he donated more than I have? Yes. But Vick just seems like a total dirtball to me. And when I read something like this, I can't help but think it's probably just an empty gesture to buy back some goodwill from the fans. Ten grand is nothing to Vick. And I'd be pretty surprised if Vick really plans to do much (or any) of the legwork that his foundation has committed to. I just don't think he's made much of a sacrifice here or really gone out of his way to do very much. Since he is perhaps the most famous Virginia Tech professional athlete around right now, I think something like this was probably almost expected of him.Is this all a completely unfair assumption on my part? Probably. But I've come to expect the worst from these scumbag athletes today.
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I'd say once Kevin Jones or DeAngelo Hall donates more than that maybe, MAYBE you could declare someone a scumbag.
 
KoolKat said:
Borat said:
Alright, I'll just come right out with it: Michael Vick just seems like a total scumbag to me. Do I know him well enough to judge him fairly? No, of course not. Has he donated more than I have? Yes. But Vick just seems like a total dirtball to me. And when I read something like this, I can't help but think it's probably just an empty gesture to buy back some goodwill from the fans. Ten grand is nothing to Vick. And I'd be pretty surprised if Vick really plans to do much (or any) of the legwork that his foundation has committed to. I just don't think he's made much of a sacrifice here or really gone out of his way to do very much. Since he is perhaps the most famous Virginia Tech professional athlete around right now, I think something like this was probably almost expected of him.Is this all a completely unfair assumption on my part? Probably. But I've come to expect the worst from these scumbag athletes today.
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I'd say once Kevin Jones or DeAngelo Hall donates more than that maybe, MAYBE you could declare someone a scumbag.
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My declaration of Michael Vick being a scumbag came long before this tragic event. Donating what (to him) amounts to pocket change won't change that in my eyes.What I get out of your post is that someone can act like a jerk, but as long as he has enough money to donate a few grand to a worthwhile cause, everything is fine and no one should judge him.If this was Pacman Jones's college, and he donated a few thousand dollars, would you say that Pacman Jones is no longer a scumbag?
 
Borat said:
KoolKat said:
Borat said:
Alright, I'll just come right out with it: Michael Vick just seems like a total scumbag to me. Do I know him well enough to judge him fairly? No, of course not. Has he donated more than I have? Yes. But Vick just seems like a total dirtball to me. And when I read something like this, I can't help but think it's probably just an empty gesture to buy back some goodwill from the fans. Ten grand is nothing to Vick. And I'd be pretty surprised if Vick really plans to do much (or any) of the legwork that his foundation has committed to. I just don't think he's made much of a sacrifice here or really gone out of his way to do very much. Since he is perhaps the most famous Virginia Tech professional athlete around right now, I think something like this was probably almost expected of him.Is this all a completely unfair assumption on my part? Probably. But I've come to expect the worst from these scumbag athletes today.
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I'd say once Kevin Jones or DeAngelo Hall donates more than that maybe, MAYBE you could declare someone a scumbag.
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My declaration of Michael Vick being a scumbag came long before this tragic event. Donating what (to him) amounts to pocket change won't change that in my eyes.What I get out of your post is that someone can act like a jerk, but as long as he has enough money to donate a few grand to a worthwhile cause, everything is fine and no one should judge him.If this was Pacman Jones's college, and he donated a few thousand dollars, would you say that Pacman Jones is no longer a scumbag?
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Perhaps I am missing something Vick has done in his past? Pacman is a totally different story, and is not relevant when discussing Vick.
 
chris1969 said:
So many reasons that I hate Vick, but I still can't find any fault in a guy donating $10,000 dollars too families in crisis. Those of you that think it's not enough should post your Pay-Pal receipts showing that you've donated more before you complain.
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:shrug:
 
Why do I get the sense that if Vick had given say $10,000 to each family that there would have been posts about how he only did it for publicity?

 
Any donation is generous. If he gave 20,000, you'd want more. 50,000, you'd call him a cheap *******. So where's the line? Where do the cynics think he crosses the line from "total dirtball" to generous human being in this case?

 
I don't know if it was mentioned elsewhere, but in the annual OSU Scarlett and Gray game, both teams played with the Virginia Tech Logo on their helmets.

 
hutchins929 said:
How Much money does this guy have? If he was donating $10,000 to each mother or father of the victems to cover funeral and burial costs then I would be impressed but 10 thousand total? come on!
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Individual gifts larger than $10,000 are subject to taxes. He could donate $10,001 but then the families would only get about $7-8000.
 
Borat said:
KoolKat said:
Borat said:
Alright, I'll just come right out with it: Michael Vick just seems like a total scumbag to me. Do I know him well enough to judge him fairly? No, of course not. Has he donated more than I have? Yes. But Vick just seems like a total dirtball to me. And when I read something like this, I can't help but think it's probably just an empty gesture to buy back some goodwill from the fans. Ten grand is nothing to Vick. And I'd be pretty surprised if Vick really plans to do much (or any) of the legwork that his foundation has committed to. I just don't think he's made much of a sacrifice here or really gone out of his way to do very much. Since he is perhaps the most famous Virginia Tech professional athlete around right now, I think something like this was probably almost expected of him.Is this all a completely unfair assumption on my part? Probably. But I've come to expect the worst from these scumbag athletes today.
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I'd say once Kevin Jones or DeAngelo Hall donates more than that maybe, MAYBE you could declare someone a scumbag.
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My declaration of Michael Vick being a scumbag came long before this tragic event. Donating what (to him) amounts to pocket change won't change that in my eyes.What I get out of your post is that someone can act like a jerk, but as long as he has enough money to donate a few grand to a worthwhile cause, everything is fine and no one should judge him.If this was Pacman Jones's college, and he donated a few thousand dollars, would you say that Pacman Jones is no longer a scumbag?
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Why is he a jerk, because he isn't a good enough QB for you or because he smokes weed?
 
benbadman said:
hutchins929 said:
How Much money does this guy have? If he was donating $10,000 to each mother or father of the victems to cover funeral and burial costs then I would be impressed but 10 thousand total? come on!
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Individual gifts larger than $10,000 are subject to taxes. He could donate $10,001 but then the families would only get about $7-8000.
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That's a good point. That's why the rest of the money will be donated through his organization.
 
If Vick had given $0, nobody would start a threat ####ting on him about it.

But he gives $10k and people call him a "scumbag."

Get a life.

 
I don't get it, what is the point of donating money? What does the donation hope to acomplish?

It is not like it serves a purpose. There are no medical supplies to buy, no displaced families that need food or housing. What is the 10 grand for?

 
Sweeper said:
I don't get it, what is the point of donating money? What does the donation hope to acomplish? It is not like it serves a purpose. There are no medical supplies to buy, no displaced families that need food or housing. What is the 10 grand for?
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It is to help with funeral arrangements and traveling family members.
 
Of all the reasons that people choose to not like Michael Vick, donating money to a worthy cause is by far the most moronic.

 
If he donated a min of $100,000 people would shut up.

I am just wondering why everyone assumes these families need the money. Maybe many of them wouldn't even want to accept any donations, I know I wouldn't want to.

 
chris1969 said:
Those of you that think it's not enough should post your Pay-Pal receipts showing that you've donated more before you complain.
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Yeah - and those of you who criticize his ability as a QB should have to do better in the NFL before you criticize him. :lmao:
JohnnyU said:
That's $312.50 per family. Maybe he could throw in some scratch off lottery tickets to boot. I know I know, anything is more than I gave, but you would think that a rich VT alum would give a little more.
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You would think.Look this is very simple: yes of course it's nice to give something, generally. The annoying/undewhelming part to some of us is that he could have easily given a good bit more and still not felt the pinch, plus the whole press conf bit. It was kind of like one of us throwing a buck in the Salvation Army bucket at Christmas, then telling all of our friends about it or putting out flyers or something. ie many of us think this was largely if not entirely a PR move with little sincerity (and from his perspective at least, little money) behind it, that's all. Could be wrong. Feel free to disagree. You could be wrong too. PS for those saying "the amount doesn't matter," what if he'd instead given say $1000? Or $100? Or $50? Still applaud the donation? What if one of us tosses a quarter to C.A.R.E.? Should we be praised because "it's better than nothing" - ?
 
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BigRed said:
chris1969 said:
Those of you that think it's not enough should post your Pay-Pal receipts showing that you've donated more before you complain.
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Yeah - and those of you who criticize his ability as a QB should have to do better in the NFL before you criticize him. :excited:

JohnnyU said:
That's $312.50 per family. Maybe he could throw in some scratch off lottery tickets to boot. I know I know, anything is more than I gave, but you would think that a rich VT alum would give a little more.
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You would think.Look this is very simple: yes of course it's nice to give something, generally. The annoying part to some is that he could have easily given a good bit more and still not felt the pinch, plus the whole press conf bit. It was kind of like one of us throwing a buck in the Salvation Army bucket at Christmas, then telling all of our friends about it or putting out flyers or something. ie many of us think this was largely if not entirely a PR move with little sincerity (and from his perspective at least, little money) behind it, that's all. Could be wrong. Feel free to disagree. You could be wrong too.

PS for those saying "the amount doesn't matter," what if he'd instead given say $1000? Or $100? Or $50? Still applaud the donation? What if one of us tosses a quarter to C.A.R.E.? Should we be praised because "it's better than nothing" - ?
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What made the whole thing a :lmao: to me is the fact that he (and his people, no doubt) felt a need to crow about it. He could have given some $$$ anonymously; if it really comes from the heart that's the usual drill.Id

 
Napoleon Dynamite said:
If he donated a min of $100,000 people would shut up.I am just wondering why everyone assumes these families need the money. Maybe many of them wouldn't even want to accept any donations, I know I wouldn't want to.
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I would assume that the families could use the money to help with funeral costs. Those things aren't cheap. My guess it that they will all end up with enough to cover the funeral cost and then some with or with out Vick's phat contribution.
 
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benbadman said:
hutchins929 said:
How Much money does this guy have? If he was donating $10,000 to each mother or father of the victems to cover funeral and burial costs then I would be impressed but 10 thousand total? come on!
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Individual gifts larger than $10,000 are subject to taxes. He could donate $10,001 but then the families would only get about $7-8000.
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That's not true - it's 11K now, it's 11K to each individual and the gifter pays the tax, not the giftee. They would still receive their money no matter what, Vick would just pay a gift tax.
 
Giggity said:
His foundation is working to collect even more money. How much has Manning donated? Nothing?
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The Mannings--Archie, Peyton and Eli--sent relief by the truckloads to the Gulf region, over a couple month period after the stormdo not drag him--or them--into this...and I have not donated a dime to this, as I have no friends/relatives affectedI did have friends/relatives wacked hard in the Gulf region, so my wife and I decided to send a days pay to the Red Cross...$350 check was taken to Raven stadium, where the team matched the collection at a game last year--so our effort sent $700...didn't save the region, but if every couple affected sent XXX---well, you know the drillI and we can't help fight every battle out there---while I thought Vick could have gone deeper if he was that moved by the situation, you certainly can't toss bricks at the guy for the effortpick another battle, if you feel like fighting---you lose this one :thumbdown:
 
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Sweeper said:
I don't get it, what is the point of donating money? What does the donation hope to acomplish?

It is not like it serves a purpose. There are no medical supplies to buy, no displaced families that need food or housing. What is the 10 grand for?
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oh, let say transportation of the bodies, as another cost not mentioned
 
BigRed said:
Yeah - and those of you who criticize his ability as a QB should have to do better in the NFL before you criticize him.
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The difference is (and surely you would know this) is that you don't have to be blessed with a god-given gift to donate money. You need it to play football.
 
I don't care if Vick donated zero, 10K or 10M. This is a non-story. If he had given 100K, people would have said "hey, you're a millionaire, why not make it a cool 1M".

 
JohnnyU said:
That's $312.50 per family. Maybe he could throw in some scratch off lottery tickets to boot. I know I know, anything is more than I gave, but you would think that a rich VT alum would give a little more.
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Your math uses 32 victims (excluding the shooter)What about the 17 injured? (which I haven't heard the severity of their cases)Let's not forget about them.
 
Nemesis said:
JohnnyU said:
That's $312.50 per family. Maybe he could throw in some scratch off lottery tickets to boot. I know I know, anything is more than I gave, but you would think that a rich VT alum would give a little more.
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Your math uses 32 victims (excluding the shooter)What about the 17 injured? (which I haven't heard the severity of their cases)Let's not forget about them.
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do you know any of the 17? what do you plan to do about it? if the answer is "no" and "nothing", then it might be time to move on.
 
It's bush league to criticize Vick on this point. Even without the donation, I'm sure any alumni from Virginia Tech, including Vick, feel pretty hollow this week given what occurred. To pass judgement in a negative fashion on anyone who has relatively close ties to this situation shows true insensitivity - even with your $0 contribution.

 
TheDirtyWord said:
It's bush league to criticize Vick on this point. Even without the donation, I'm sure any alumni from Virginia Tech, including Vick, feel pretty hollow this week given what occurred. To pass judgement in a negative fashion on anyone who has relatively close ties to this situation shows true insensitivity - even with your $0 contribution.
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Again, not everyone is condemning Vick for donating (any amount of $$) to VT cause. For me (and others), his publicizing of his generosity is the bush league play.Id
 
I'm sorry, but anyone complaining about Vick giving $10k or even just 1 cent to a charity.. remember we're talking about voluntary giving.. is just plain selfish, and envious to boot.

 
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