Capella
Footballguy
Somehow, someway, your posts just keep get dumber. It's like looking at a 500-lb man and thinking "he can't get any fatter", just as he steps up and orders 5 quarter pounders.Astonishing, really.
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Vince Young will be a great QB! (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Da Guru
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Bush looks quite bad sir.......
matuski
Footballguy
I don't disagree... I just don't think he looks as bad as VY.
splitvizionz
Footballguy
Vince just told you where to stick it 
Capella
Footballguy
Guess your "incredible scouting ability" failed you here, eh?
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
I think it's time for another thread comparing Vince Young and Matt Leinart numbers and discussing the weapons each have inherited.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Nah, he won't reply.Bashing Vick and Young is his thing.To see VY today is Da Guru's worst nightmare.Paging daguru, Vince on line one
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Not at all..I was happy to see VY or any young QB do well. I have talked up Garrard and have bashed Bulger and Grossman..but you never seem to notice that.Nah, he won't reply.Bashing Vick and Young is his thing.To see VY today is Da Guru's worst nightmare.Paging daguru, Vince on line one
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the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
Young to wr?
LMAO.
LMAO.
Slingblade
Footballguy
in yo face
matuski
Footballguy
He had a good game... more importantly his throwing motion looked MUCH better. But if you want credit for that game you need to accept the previous game... the worst I've ever seen.But lets not get too excited... his comp% and rating are only better than Andrew Walter. His YPA only better than Gradkowski, longest completion (37 yards) by far the worst. Currently his rating would put him 33rd in the league for QBs who have thrown an average of 15 or more passes per game played. There are 32 teams in the league...Lets see how he answers his 63 yards on 21 attempts in his first meeting with this weeks' opponent - Indy. After that we will see his effort against a cakewalk Houston pass defense.I prefer the body of work to a single game... the end of season stats will tell.On the bright side I do now at least take back the Ryan Leaf comparison... he has earned this much.PS - There is a :deadbevo: alias around here... anyone seen him?
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Brewzers
Footballguy
If you compare YTD FF points, he was the 23rd ranked QB in my league prior to the NYG game. Gradkowski was 31st & Walter 34th. VY deserves a lot of credit, he has breathed life into an 0-3 Tennessee team that was written off as one of, if not the worst team in the NFL this year. Just a hunch the Titan fans are a little more excited about their team with VY at the helm. I know we "dead Bevo's" miss him.He had a good game... more importantly his throwing motion looked MUCH better. But if you want credit for that game you need to accept the previous game... the worst I've ever seen.But lets not get too excited... his comp% and rating are only better than Andrew Walter. His YPA only better than Gradkowski, longest completion (37 yards) by far the worst. Currently his rating would put him 33rd in the league for QBs who have thrown an average of 15 or more passes per game played. There are 32 teams in the league...Lets see how he answers his 63 yards on 21 attempts in his first meeting with this weeks' opponent - Indy. After that we will see his effort against a cakewalk Houston pass defense.I prefer the body of work to a single game... the end of season stats will tell.On the bright side I do now at least take back the Ryan Leaf comparison... he has earned this much.PS - There is a :deadbevo: alias around here... anyone seen him?
diesel7982
Footballguy
If you compare YTD FF points, he was the 23rd ranked QB in my league prior to the NYG game. Gradkowski was 31st & Walter 34th. VY deserves a lot of credit, he has breathed life into an 0-3 Tennessee team that was written off as one of, if not the worst team in the NFL this year. Just a hunch the Titan fans are a little more excited about their team with VY at the helm. I know we "dead Bevo's" miss him.He had a good game... more importantly his throwing motion looked MUCH better. But if you want credit for that game you need to accept the previous game... the worst I've ever seen.But lets not get too excited... his comp% and rating are only better than Andrew Walter. His YPA only better than Gradkowski, longest completion (37 yards) by far the worst.
Currently his rating would put him 33rd in the league for QBs who have thrown an average of 15 or more passes per game played. There are 32 teams in the league...
Lets see how he answers his 63 yards on 21 attempts in his first meeting with this weeks' opponent - Indy. After that we will see his effort against a cakewalk Houston pass defense.
I prefer the body of work to a single game... the end of season stats will tell.
On the bright side I do now at least take back the Ryan Leaf comparison... he has earned this much.
PS - There is a :deadbevo: alias around here... anyone seen him?
Definitely. Still need a solid WR, a DE to play across from KVB, a starting CB, and a MLB, but the Titans should be an exciting team next year.
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
He's come a long way in a short time, which is good news. They do still need some help on the pass rush and another corner. While I would love to see them with Calvin Johnson, I actually think a 1st round / 2nd round / 3rd round of...
1st - Gaines Adams - DE - Clemson
2nd - Robert Meachem - WR - Tennessee
3rd - Tarrell Brown / David Irons / Josh Wilson (best CB available)
... would be a grand improvement.
1st - Gaines Adams - DE - Clemson
2nd - Robert Meachem - WR - Tennessee
3rd - Tarrell Brown / David Irons / Josh Wilson (best CB available)
... would be a grand improvement.
matuski
Footballguy
As I said.. of course this was a good game, emphasizing the "A." Up till sunday what could anyone possibly be excited about? If it is all based off one game... I need not say more. Right now the good game is the anomaly... when that changes I'll agree with you.If you compare YTD FF points, he was the 23rd ranked QB in my league prior to the NYG game. Gradkowski was 31st & Walter 34th. VY deserves a lot of credit, he has breathed life into an 0-3 Tennessee team that was written off as one of, if not the worst team in the NFL this year. Just a hunch the Titan fans are a little more excited about their team with VY at the helm. I know we "dead Bevo's" miss him.He had a good game... more importantly his throwing motion looked MUCH better. But if you want credit for that game you need to accept the previous game... the worst I've ever seen.But lets not get too excited... his comp% and rating are only better than Andrew Walter. His YPA only better than Gradkowski, longest completion (37 yards) by far the worst. Currently his rating would put him 33rd in the league for QBs who have thrown an average of 15 or more passes per game played. There are 32 teams in the league...Lets see how he answers his 63 yards on 21 attempts in his first meeting with this weeks' opponent - Indy. After that we will see his effort against a cakewalk Houston pass defense.I prefer the body of work to a single game... the end of season stats will tell.On the bright side I do now at least take back the Ryan Leaf comparison... he has earned this much.PS - There is a :deadbevo: alias around here... anyone seen him?
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
That makes no sense at all. WHile I agree that rookies and young players are works in progress, I fail to see how it means much to call Young's recent progression an "anomaly." That's what young players do - they progress, they get better over time. It's not an exact science nor is it a quantifiable growth pattern. It is supposed to be an upward-trending graph, which is exactly what has happened. If your point is that Vince Young isn't ready to pose for a bust in Canton, then I concede you are correct. Other than that, I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at. More abstractly: when looking at the teams that have drafted QBs in the first round of the last 5 years, wouldn't you agree that a fair number (Buffalo and Jax come to mind) would gladly trade their choice of "QB of the future" for Young based on his "anomaly" alone?As I said.. of course this was a good game, emphasizing the "A." Up till sunday what could anyone possibly be excited about? If it is all based off one game... I need not say more. Right now the good game is the anomaly... when that changes I'll agree with you.If you compare YTD FF points, he was the 23rd ranked QB in my league prior to the NYG game. Gradkowski was 31st & Walter 34th. VY deserves a lot of credit, he has breathed life into an 0-3 Tennessee team that was written off as one of, if not the worst team in the NFL this year. Just a hunch the Titan fans are a little more excited about their team with VY at the helm. I know we "dead Bevo's" miss him.He had a good game... more importantly his throwing motion looked MUCH better. But if you want credit for that game you need to accept the previous game... the worst I've ever seen.But lets not get too excited... his comp% and rating are only better than Andrew Walter. His YPA only better than Gradkowski, longest completion (37 yards) by far the worst. Currently his rating would put him 33rd in the league for QBs who have thrown an average of 15 or more passes per game played. There are 32 teams in the league...Lets see how he answers his 63 yards on 21 attempts in his first meeting with this weeks' opponent - Indy. After that we will see his effort against a cakewalk Houston pass defense.I prefer the body of work to a single game... the end of season stats will tell.On the bright side I do now at least take back the Ryan Leaf comparison... he has earned this much.PS - There is a :deadbevo: alias around here... anyone seen him?
I dunno, I'm not a Tenn fan, but I imagine they'd be excited at going 3-4 with him as a starter on a pretty terrible team.
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
I was actually hoping they'd stick with Collins and be bad enough to hold the Lions or Raiders hostage for the #1 pick so they could end up with Calvin Johnson and another 1st day pick or two to add depth to the defense and the guard position. The NYG victory was awesome, but I'd just as soon taken the loss with Collins at the helm for all the other games.
ILoveMyLions
Footballguy
I get the feeling that if the Titans continue to play the way they have, then they will not be in position to draft Adams who I think will go top 5. I wouldn't be shocked if the Lions took him with their first rounder.On a seperate note, are you going to have your mock draft predictions, etc. this year?...I really missed those last year as it seemed you didn't do as many...
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
Absolutely. THings in the HERD world have been chaotic in 2006. I didn't do a single good mock here and didn't contribute any articles at all. I was at an employer that blocked the FBG URLs and my night-life has been all about starting a new business, so posting/writing was not even in the cards. I have missed it immensly.I'm moving to a new employer and the new business isn't as reliant on me, so I look forward to being much more involved in '07. I should have a mock rocking in the next week or so, just to get the ball rollin.
Brewzers
Footballguy
See, I think thats where we are different. I've watched VY win in HS and at UTexas....maybe 50 games plus his start in the NFL. Yes, I know these venues are not the NFL, but the same winning pattern is emerging, but seemingly quicker for him in the NFL. VY is a freak and I mean that as the highest possible compliment. My guess is you have only watched VY since he played for the Titans, at most you've only seen 8 games and probably not even that many. You don't understand how truly gifted this kid is. Keep watching!
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
Look forward to it and even though I just read that "where the hell have you been?"
Titans need another WR like they need another RB
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
They need a really good WR. The crew they have is like putting together a baseball pitching rotation of #3 starters and wondering why you can't win in the playoffs. Bennett is best served as a #2, as is Wade (if that). Givens? Well gee...he's a fringe #2 guy as well. Williams, Roby, Jones...? More guys with the upside of being #2 receivers.
ILoveMyLions
Footballguy
I would think that you would want to go OT before WR...Jake Long would be a good fit if he comes out early...
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
They need guards more than tackles, although RT could stand to be upgraded. Roos is going to be a good one. Maybe a 6th round pick to Oakland for Gallery?
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
VY = FF gold in about 2 years
Brewzers
Footballguy
Blaylock from Texas...lets get him really comfortable!They need guards more than tackles, although RT could stand to be upgraded. Roos is going to be a good one. Maybe a 6th round pick to Oakland for Gallery?
the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
Colin, good catch with Tarrell Brown. While the media keeps hyping Aaron Ross (who is pretty good) as Texas' best cb this year, they never seem to notice that NOBODY ever throws to TB's side. Brown is outstanding.
Colin Dowling
Footballguy
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the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
Me, too. Is he still a Thorpe candidate?
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
......................because he is Vince Young!
msommer
Footballguy
I really don't like to repeat myself from this years draft, but what about OL?????
msommer
Footballguy
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
I'm a Vince dynasty owner and that's due to 1 decent game and a sprinkling of rushing TD's. Up until this week he'd never thrown for more than 211 yards (which was two weeks ago) and he's thrown for under 100 twice as a starter. Vince has a long way to go as a QB.His intangibles are already showing on the Titans. He fires that team up and leads them. TENN fans have a lot to look forward to as Vince develops.
Actually, he's gone 4-4 as a starter, and he's 4-2 over the last 6 games with one of those losses being an extremely close 1-point loss to one of the NFL's best teams, Baltimore. Plus Vince had Tenn in position to win that Baltimore game but, unlike this week against the Giants, Bironas missed that last second field goal (not to mention that their loss right before the 4-2 stretch was a 1 point loss to Indy that Tenn came very very close to winning). Other than the stinker against Jacksonville, Tenn has been on a bit if a role, and Vince has played pretty well in that stretch (including outstanding games against Baltimore and the Giants) and has helped breathe life into that Titans team. Pacman Jones and Travis Henry have played a large role as well. If Colston stays out and Vince finishes strong, he could end up with Off Rookie of the Year. Especially with all the east coast pub he's getting right now from the Giants game.JBTV said:
