Vincent Jackson over Nicks / Fitz / White? (1 Viewer)

[dskew]

I keep mock drafting and this situation comes up in the 2nd round. Calvin Johnson normally gone, but you can choose from Vincent Jackson / Nicks / Fitz / R. White / Mike Wallace...

I keep convincing myself that V. Jackson is the least risky and possibly most upside. Great QB, passing offense, knows system, big and fast, easy division

Fitz - New QB, unproven offense, double coverage on every play

Nicks - Tough Division, going into 3rd year, will receive lots of double coverage

White - Running team, Julio Jones will steal lots of targets, Ryan still not proven elite passer

Wallace - Young, Not sold on deep threat only as a high end WR1, I kind of like D. Jackson more than him. I'm probably alone on that one.

What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance for contributing

 

[TheWick]

I would take Fitz out of this discussion and then I can see your argument.

I think it can be argued this year that Fitz should be the first WR off the board. The target advantage between Vincent and Fitz will be substantial if history tells us anything. Fitz has had 150+ targets for 4 stragiht years.

 

[chadjohnsonfan]

Man, I think Fitz is the guy here. He's too good and Kolb has already learned that when in trouble a ball to Fitz has at least a 50% chance of being caught...double coverage or not.

 

[meatwad1]

I agree with all here...Fitz should be in the top 10 next to AJ. All of the others including VJ are pretty safe picks imo, and could end up number 1 if things go a certain way.

 

[rocketsauce]

Non PPR, I think you can make the case for Jackson over those guys if you prefer. But in PPR you still gotta go with the receptions of Fitz, Roddy, Nicks, etc. The limited bit of preseason for Rivers and VJax LOOKS like they're going to mix in more short patterns as well as keep the long balls, but we'll see if they can make it amount to a full season's worth of a true #1 WR in catches. I'm a believer personally. They look fairly unstoppable.

 

[OnTheReg]

I love Wallace. Not saying he's with Fitz, AJ and Roddy, but I could see a top five finish.

 

[RUSF18]

I'm expecting a big year out of Vincent Jackson, especially if Gates ends up missing any time, but I would take Fitzgerald and White over him. In fact, I would take those two over Calvin Johnson as well. I know that's sacrilege on this board, so I apologize.

 

[rizzler]

I have V. Jax as my #1 WR in my rankings, so I am biased in writing this.

I was also lucky enough to get him at 3.01 in my 12 man, nonPPR. A dream come true for me.

I know it's only preseason, but Vjax looks great, burning corners and making some nice grab, running nice routes... Plus Rivers is a BEAST...

Can't go wrong with any of those picks really... But on pure freakishness, Vjax is right up there with AJ, Fitz and Calvin

The 1-handed catch he made vs ATL in '09 I believe it was... absolutely made my jaw drop. Been following him since. Aside from his past stupidity, he is a behemoth.

 

[dskew]

sorry to the mods. new on here and just realized that was an Assistant Coach forum thread. my bad

 

[NeverEnough]

Fitz

White

CJ

AJ

VJax is somewhere in tier 2

 

[dynastyguy1000]

i thought it was interesting that Waldman had VJ ranked so high in his Gut Check column. How would you rank them? Would you consider drafting VJ before White and Fitz (early 2nd round)?

 

[VikingFrog]

I took Calvin then V Jackson. (note that fitz was taken the pick ahead of me, I think I would have taken him). Skipped on Roddy.

Jackson has looked solid with rivers at the helm. If it translated into the regular season I think he's in for a huge year.

 

[glong989]

This depends on PPR or not IMO. I don't look for VJ to catch a ton of balls when compared to the other two guys.

I wouldn't take VJ ahead of either of them - but it's definitely possible VJ finishes up there ahead of both depending on the scoring setting. I believe he's finished around the #10 which is the highest he's been.

I highly doubt Roddy catches 110+ like he did last season with Julio drafted and now Douglas emerging. Fitzgerald did just fine last season with no QB so he should be back up there in the top 5 with improved QB play and being looked at often in the passing game.

So I'd probably rank them Fitz, Roddy, then VJ. I'd rather take proven guys who have been there before with my top picks.

 

[HALtheCOW]

I play PPR leagues, so I believe that Jackson is on the bottom of that top tier.

AJ

Fitz

CJ

White

Nicks

VJax just has too many games where his stats dissappear...but he will give you his share of monster games.

But you have to really like the Top 10 or so WRs this year.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

VJ seems to be the hot topic of the week. I think after this year he may deserve to be in the AJ/CJ/Fitz group, like White after his showing last year, but for now he's not quite there yet. I'm not sure I would even put him in the top tier yet, with White and Jennings added to the three already mentioned. More than a few receivers in the group below this, where VJ has one of the best upside. Under my league scoring the top two last year were Brandon Lloyd and Dwayne Bowe. VJ is better than both imo with a better QB, no reason he can't crack the top seed. For now though, I would not put any of the guys in the op ahead of Fitz.

 

[dynastyguy1000]

i thought it was interesting that Waldman had VJ ranked so high in his Gut Check column. How would you rank them? Would you consider drafting VJ before White and Fitz (early 2nd round)?

sorry to the mods myself. didnt realize there had already been a thread on this

 

[Beerguzzler]

The whole value in taking VJ, is that he does have that #1 WR overall upside. Why would you take him as the 2nd and 3rd WR, when you can take him after the first 5-6 guys. Getting 2 top RB's or even one of the other top WR's AND still being able to get VJ is where his true value lies.

 

[Bri]

without Smith, Nicks seems even more reliable for FF. Not sure why exactly...just does

 

[LawFitz]

I think these five are the most likely to finish as the #1 WR in fantasy football this season:

A. Johnson, C. Johnson, Fitzgerald, R. White, V. Jackson

So I think you'll be okay taking VJax there if you like him. Pip Rivers is the man and he elevates VJax into the tier 1 of WR for 2011.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Crazy that White still doesn't get the respect he deserves.

 

[baconisgood]

Crazy that White still doesn't get the respect he deserves.

Why? Fitz has 4 seasons better than White's 2nd best season and his best season is better in non-ppr and very close in ppr and is younger. Andre Johnson has been better for 3 years and is a year older. Nicks was on pace with White last season in non-ppr when healthy in only his second season. I can understand an argument for White over Calvin but you can also understand taking the higher upside guy with 16 TD potential.

 

[eakfootball]

I like VJAX as the 6th WR. After AJ, CJ, Fitz, Nicks, and White. But I tend to go by tiers and this is how I tier the WRs:

A. Johnson

C. Johnson

Fitz

Roddy

Nicks

VJAX

Wallace

Jennings

Austin

Wayne

M Williams

Dez

D. Jackson

Bowe

Holmes

Lloyd

Britt

Marshall

Maclin

Harviin

Manningham

S Johnson

Ocho

Boldin

Collie

Rice

Welker

Colston

A. Green

S. Moss

J. Jones

Garcon

L. Moore

S. Smith

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

the truth of the matter is that no one can accurately predict where any receiver will finish.

2010 Week 1-16 PPR Ranks for the top 12 WRs by ADP:

AJ (7)

Moss (71)

Wayne (6)

Calvin (4)

Austin (15)

White (1)

Marshall (21)

Fitz (17)

Jennings (5)

DeSean (19)

Colston (12)

Welker (16)

Only 4 of the top 12 by ADP finished within 5 ranks or better relative to their ADP position. Moss is an outlier due to being traded/dropped twice during the season.

So, just take whoever you think will put up the best numbers, ADP be damned.

 

[Dez]

115-1389-10

68-1167-9

 

[Dancing Bear]

I don't see why you are so enamored by V.Jackson ...

He does not have the historic performance to warrant anything close to these others. What are your metrics?

A.Johnson

C.Johnson

R.White

H.Nicks

L.Fitzgerald

G.Jennings

R.Wayne

M.Wallace

D.Bowe

M.Austin

D.Jackson

B.Marshall

All have significant advantages over V.Jackson when relying on him to execute and deliver. If you use 80 yards in a game as a metric for instance, he is 1/2 as productive as any of the above WR's comparing last year and just a bit better than that over his career although all of these WR's have superior performance records ...

If you use standard Fantasy Points instead then he only has two Top 15 WR finishes but nothing even close to Top 5? What has changed in San Diego to give you the impression he is going to catapult himself into the Top 5 WR, with another 2-3 ppg?

I don't see it ...

 

[Mister CIA]

I don't see why you are so enamored by V.Jackson ...He does not have the historic performance to warrant anything close to these others. What are your metrics?A.JohnsonC.JohnsonR.White H.NicksL.FitzgeraldG.JenningsR.WayneM.WallaceD.BoweM.AustinD.JacksonB.MarshallAll have significant advantages over V.Jackson when relying on him to execute and deliver. If you use 80 yards in a game as a metric for instance, he is 1/2 as productive as any of the above WR's comparing last year and just a bit better than that over his career although all of these WR's have superior performance records ...If you use standard Fantasy Points instead then he only has two Top 15 WR finishes but nothing even close to Top 5? What has changed in San Diego to give you the impression he is going to catapult himself into the Top 5 WR, with another 2-3 ppg?I don't see it ...

Honest question, have you watched him play? ... Much? More than any other WR, save perhaps Fitz, he makes the WR position look easy. As for what has changed, both Rivers and VJax are neck-deep in the prime of their careers, for the first season ever. Vincent Jackson will score 17 TDs this season, barring injury or some other oddity.:beeracle:

 

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Vincent Jackson will score 17 TDs this season, barring injury or some other oddity.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I love Wallace. Not saying he's with Fitz, AJ and Roddy, but I could see a top five finish.

So he would finish where he did last year?

 

[Dancing Bear]

Honest question, have you watched him play? ... Much? More than any other WR, save perhaps Fitz, he makes the WR position look easy. As for what has changed, both Rivers and VJax are neck-deep in the prime of their careers, for the first season ever. Vincent Jackson will score 17 TDs this season, barring injury or some other oddity.

Last year he had a 20% success rate of achieving 80 yards or more in a game [1 out of 5]. Furthermore this was not an anomaly as throughout his career he only has a 25% success rate of achieving 80 yards or more in a game [4 in a season].As per your dream of 17 TD's ... Tolbert, Matthews and Gates will all easily see double digit TD's. Jackson has never hit the double digit plateau. He may in fact hit 10 this year, but 17? You are expecting him to double his highest year ever. Sorry, but I believe that this will never happen.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Honest question, have you watched him play? ... Much? More than any other WR, save perhaps Fitz, he makes the WR position look easy. As for what has changed, both Rivers and VJax are neck-deep in the prime of their careers, for the first season ever. Vincent Jackson will score 17 TDs this season, barring injury or some other oddity.

Last year he had a 20% success rate of achieving 80 yards or more in a game [1 out of 5]. Furthermore this was not an anomaly as throughout his career he only has a 25% success rate of achieving 80 yards or more in a game [4 in a season].As per your dream of 17 TD's ... Tolbert, Matthews and Gates will all easily see double digit TD's. Jackson has never hit the double digit plateau. He may in fact hit 10 this year, but 17? You are expecting him to double his highest year ever. Sorry, but I believe that this will never happen.

With everything going on last year, I throw it out.In 2009, including the Divisional Playoff SD was in, V Jax was actually over 100 yards receiving in 7 games. 44% success rate for 100 or more. That's the year I look at when evaluating him. Now Rivers is even better and V Jax is motivated in many ways to succeed.Tolbert, Mathews, and Gates will all easily see double digit TD's? ETA: Sorry. V Jax didn't play in week 17 of 2009 so, including the playoff game, he was actually over 100 yards receiving in 44% of games played.

 

[fightingillini]

Honest question, have you watched him play? ... Much? More than any other WR, save perhaps Fitz, he makes the WR position look easy. As for what has changed, both Rivers and VJax are neck-deep in the prime of their careers, for the first season ever. Vincent Jackson will score 17 TDs this season, barring injury or some other oddity.

Last year he had a 20% success rate of achieving 80 yards or more in a game [1 out of 5]. Furthermore this was not an anomaly as throughout his career he only has a 25% success rate of achieving 80 yards or more in a game [4 in a season].As per your dream of 17 TD's ... Tolbert, Matthews and Gates will all easily see double digit TD's. Jackson has never hit the double digit plateau. He may in fact hit 10 this year, but 17? You are expecting him to double his highest year ever. Sorry, but I believe that this will never happen.

Not sure why last year's metric that you cited is relevant to this year. Let's state the facts.1) VJax is playing for a new contract....he will be motivated2) Rivers is a stud QB3) SD employs a pass-friendly offense.4) SD is almost guaranteed to throw for 4200+ yards and toss 30+ TDs.5) Jackson averages 16+ yards per catch throughout his career.6) Sproles left SD, and Tolbert/Mathews don't come close to the pass-catching talent of Sproles.All the stars are aligned for Jackson to have a huge year. Now wouldn't draft Jackson over the top 5 WRs AJ/Calvin/Roddy/Fitz/Nicks in a PPR league, but he's #6WR on my board and I wouldn't be suprised if he finished in the top 5.Let's go back to Rivers throwing for 4200+/30+. Say Gates gets his usual 1000 yards and 9 scores.....which is a great year for a TE. That leaves 3200/21 for the WRs and RBs. How do you distribute the pie? My projection would be 1200-1300 for VJax, 800 for Floyd, 600-700 for other WRs and 500 for RBs. Currently my projection for VJax is 82/1275/10

 

[T with T]

I keep mock drafting and this situation comes up in the 2nd round. Calvin Johnson normally gone, but you can choose from Vincent Jackson / Nicks / Fitz / R. White / Mike Wallace...I keep convincing myself that V. Jackson is the least risky and possibly most upside. Great QB, passing offense, knows system, big and fast, easy divisionFitz - New QB, unproven offense, double coverage on every playNicks - Tough Division, going into 3rd year, will receive lots of double coverageWhite - Running team, Julio Jones will steal lots of targets, Ryan still not proven elite passerWallace - Young, Not sold on deep threat only as a high end WR1, I kind of like D. Jackson more than him. I'm probably alone on that one.What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance for contributing

Mike Wallace is not only a deep threat though bud, that is some things I will mention from your analysis, although some of it is true, Wallace had 60 -1257 and 10 with only ben for 12 games.. He ran underneaths more then his rookie year and the team wants to have him run more routes... he avg 20 a catch and only had 98 targets... Do you see him having less targets with Ben for a full season and going into his third year.... DESEAN only had 47 catches... less yards and tds.. Why would you like Desean better??? I took Wallace 2.12 in my ppr redraft

 

[T with T]

I keep mock drafting and this situation comes up in the 2nd round. Calvin Johnson normally gone, but you can choose from Vincent Jackson / Nicks / Fitz / R. White / Mike Wallace...I keep convincing myself that V. Jackson is the least risky and possibly most upside. Great QB, passing offense, knows system, big and fast, easy divisionFitz - New QB, unproven offense, double coverage on every playNicks - Tough Division, going into 3rd year, will receive lots of double coverageWhite - Running team, Julio Jones will steal lots of targets, Ryan still not proven elite passerWallace - Young, Not sold on deep threat only as a high end WR1, I kind of like D. Jackson more than him. I'm probably alone on that one.What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance for contributing

to answer your question, though I think its a toss up... I tend to roll with Nicks/wallace... Whoever you like better, I think Nicks will be a shade better but production may be similar, with wallace maybe being less of an injury concern... Wallace has grown on me bigtime in a year.

 

[rizzler]

ppl keep harping for AJ #1 - but he's never finished number 1.

He's a freak, probably the most physically gifted... but it's not the end all be all.

So many factors went into why I think VJax will finish #1. May happen, may not... But the stars seem to be aligned for a very good year.

 

[T with T]

I love Wallace. Not saying he's with Fitz, AJ and Roddy, but I could see a top five finish.

Of course he was top 8 last year in ppr and 2 point bonus for 100 yard games... That was with him not doin much of anything first four games while Big ben had a suspension and only rec 98 targets... He could be in for a huge year, the thing people don't mention is how good ben is at extending plays. It's gonna be hard to cover a guy like Wallace for that long, Ben can run around and then throw a 30 yard strike in the Endzone. Mike Wallace is like rising in my book like a rocket and I currently have him as top 5 wr and maybe as high as 3 .. I like1. Calvin2. Nicks3. Wallace/Fitz4. White/Wallace/Fitz5. AJ

 

[T with T]

ppl keep harping for AJ #1 - but he's never finished number 1.He's a freak, probably the most physically gifted... but it's not the end all be all.So many factors went into why I think VJax will finish #1. May happen, may not... But the stars seem to be aligned for a very good year.

Vjax will not be number 1 I guarantee you that and I own him in one league... If he is I will eat a pizza box....

 

[rizzler]

ppl keep harping for AJ #1 - but he's never finished number 1.He's a freak, probably the most physically gifted... but it's not the end all be all.So many factors went into why I think VJax will finish #1. May happen, may not... But the stars seem to be aligned for a very good year.

Vjax will not be number 1 I guarantee you that and I own him in one league... If he is I will eat a pizza box....

deal.

 

[T with T]

I think these five are the most likely to finish as the #1 WR in fantasy football this season:A. Johnson, C. Johnson, Fitzgerald, R. White, V. JacksonSo I think you'll be okay taking VJax there if you like him. Pip Rivers is the man and he elevates VJax into the tier 1 of WR for 2011.

No Nicks or Wallace... Both these guys showed tremendous talent only in year 2 and their situations got better or stayed the same. I don't see why these guys aren't getting much love someone at work told me that they thought wallace was most overrated guy.. how is this at 98 targets he caught 60... that's incredibly efficient... actually one of the top in the leauge.. Give that guy 120-140 targets and he could have 1600 yards.

 

[Boom Switch]

I think these five are the most likely to finish as the #1 WR in fantasy football this season:A. Johnson, C. Johnson, Fitzgerald, R. White, V. JacksonSo I think you'll be okay taking VJax there if you like him. Pip Rivers is the man and he elevates VJax into the tier 1 of WR for 2011.

No Nicks or Wallace... Both these guys showed tremendous talent only in year 2 and their situations got better or stayed the same. I don't see why these guys aren't getting much love someone at work told me that they thought wallace was most overrated guy.. how is this at 98 targets he caught 60... that's incredibly efficient... actually one of the top in the leauge.. Give that guy 120-140 targets and he could have 1600 yards.

He wasnt incredibly efficient last year in my playoff league. Matter of fact, he sucked!! No way will i own this guy for a fantasy season, was painful enough for a few games.

 

[T with T]

I don't see why you are so enamored by V.Jackson ...He does not have the historic performance to warrant anything close to these others. What are your metrics?A.JohnsonC.JohnsonR.White H.NicksL.FitzgeraldG.JenningsR.WayneM.WallaceD.BoweM.AustinD.JacksonB.MarshallAll have significant advantages over V.Jackson when relying on him to execute and deliver. If you use 80 yards in a game as a metric for instance, he is 1/2 as productive as any of the above WR's comparing last year and just a bit better than that over his career although all of these WR's have superior performance records ...If you use standard Fantasy Points instead then he only has two Top 15 WR finishes but nothing even close to Top 5? What has changed in San Diego to give you the impression he is going to catapult himself into the Top 5 WR, with another 2-3 ppg?I don't see it ...

 

[T with T]

Honest question, have you watched him play? ... Much? More than any other WR, save perhaps Fitz, he makes the WR position look easy. As for what has changed, both Rivers and VJax are neck-deep in the prime of their careers, for the first season ever. Vincent Jackson will score 17 TDs this season, barring injury or some other oddity.

Last year he had a 20% success rate of achieving 80 yards or more in a game [1 out of 5]. Furthermore this was not an anomaly as throughout his career he only has a 25% success rate of achieving 80 yards or more in a game [4 in a season].As per your dream of 17 TD's ... Tolbert, Matthews and Gates will all easily see double digit TD's. Jackson has never hit the double digit plateau. He may in fact hit 10 this year, but 17? You are expecting him to double his highest year ever. Sorry, but I believe that this will never happen.

me to 9-11 for vjax at best

 

[T with T]

I think these five are the most likely to finish as the #1 WR in fantasy football this season:A. Johnson, C. Johnson, Fitzgerald, R. White, V. JacksonSo I think you'll be okay taking VJax there if you like him. Pip Rivers is the man and he elevates VJax into the tier 1 of WR for 2011.

No Nicks or Wallace... Both these guys showed tremendous talent only in year 2 and their situations got better or stayed the same. I don't see why these guys aren't getting much love someone at work told me that they thought wallace was most overrated guy.. how is this at 98 targets he caught 60... that's incredibly efficient... actually one of the top in the leauge.. Give that guy 120-140 targets and he could have 1600 yards.

He wasnt incredibly efficient last year in my playoff league. Matter of fact, he sucked!! No way will i own this guy for a fantasy season, was painful enough for a few games.

He wasn't??? in week 15, 16 which is my playoffs in ppr he had 20 and 23 points... 7 rec for 102 yards against the jets, and 4 for 104- td vs carolina... What are you saying.... He was only in his second year and had 260 plus points, top 8 wr.... I think you are smoking

 

[benm3218]

Traded Hillis for VJ today and loving it. I think Hillis has a chance to score slightly more this year, but VJ will be far better over a 4 year period.

Feel like I robbed a bank! And I am in a salary league and Hillis was more expensive than VJ.

Someone make me feel bad about the trade now... Or tell me how good I did!

 

[Kenny Powers]

I like him a lot this year, but Im not taking him over Fitz/AJ/CJ/Nicks/Roddy.

 

[Da Guru]

When you are picking in such a tight group pick the guy you like the best because they all could have big years.

I took Fitz as the second WR on the Survivor, after CJ and ahead of AJ. I would have been happy with AJ but you have to make a choice.

 

[Reservoir Dog]

1. Calvin Johnson - Breaks out this year

2. Andre Johnson - Consistent stud

3. Hakeem Nicks - If he stays healthy, could easily end up #1

4. Roddy White - Julio hurts him a little, but still money in the bank

5. Larry Fitzgerald - Maybe the most talented WR in the league, playing with mediocre QB

6. Greg Jennings - A lot of mouths to feed in GB, but a virtual lock for 10 tds

7. Vincent Jackson - SD runs more this season, but I still love his upside

8. Miles Austin - Safe bet to end up as a top 10 WR

9. Mike Wallace - Emerging talent, can he do it again?

10. Dwayne Bowe - I think he finally found his niche, and is clicking with Cassel

 

[Sabertooth]

I would put Jackson right behind those guy. The others all have a much more solid track record of higher catches.

 

[solwoldjr]

I don't see why you are so enamored by V.Jackson ...He does not have the historic performance to warrant anything close to these others. What are your metrics?A.JohnsonC.JohnsonR.White H.NicksL.FitzgeraldG.JenningsR.WayneM.WallaceD.BoweM.AustinD.JacksonB.MarshallAll have significant advantages over V.Jackson when relying on him to execute and deliver. If you use 80 yards in a game as a metric for instance, he is 1/2 as productive as any of the above WR's comparing last year and just a bit better than that over his career although all of these WR's have superior performance records ...If you use standard Fantasy Points instead then he only has two Top 15 WR finishes but nothing even close to Top 5? What has changed in San Diego to give you the impression he is going to catapult himself into the Top 5 WR, with another 2-3 ppg?I don't see it ...

Honest question, have you watched him play? ... Much? More than any other WR, save perhaps Fitz, he makes the WR position look easy. As for what has changed, both Rivers and VJax are neck-deep in the prime of their careers, for the first season ever. Vincent Jackson will score 17 TDs this season, barring injury or some other oddity.:beeracle:

By other oddity you mean like not finishing with the 5th most receving TD's in a season in NFL history? That would be odd.

 

[Sabertooth]

I don't see why you are so enamored by V.Jackson ...He does not have the historic performance to warrant anything close to these others. What are your metrics?A.JohnsonC.JohnsonR.White H.NicksL.FitzgeraldG.JenningsR.WayneM.WallaceD.BoweM.AustinD.JacksonB.MarshallAll have significant advantages over V.Jackson when relying on him to execute and deliver. If you use 80 yards in a game as a metric for instance, he is 1/2 as productive as any of the above WR's comparing last year and just a bit better than that over his career although all of these WR's have superior performance records ...If you use standard Fantasy Points instead then he only has two Top 15 WR finishes but nothing even close to Top 5? What has changed in San Diego to give you the impression he is going to catapult himself into the Top 5 WR, with another 2-3 ppg?I don't see it ...

Honest question, have you watched him play? ... Much? More than any other WR, save perhaps Fitz, he makes the WR position look easy. As for what has changed, both Rivers and VJax are neck-deep in the prime of their careers, for the first season ever. Vincent Jackson will score 17 TDs this season, barring injury or some other oddity.:beeracle:

By other oddity you mean like not finishing with the 5th most receving TD's in a season in NFL history? That would be odd.

Not really. It would be awesome though.

 

[Flying Elvis]

I keep mock drafting and this situation comes up in the 2nd round. Calvin Johnson normally gone, but you can choose from Vincent Jackson / Nicks / Fitz / R. White / Mike Wallace...I keep convincing myself that V. Jackson is the least risky and possibly most upside. Great QB, passing offense, knows system, big and fast, easy divisionFitz - New QB, unproven offense, double coverage on every playNicks - Tough Division, going into 3rd year, will receive lots of double coverageWhite - Running team, Julio Jones will steal lots of targets, Ryan still not proven elite passerWallace - Young, Not sold on deep threat only as a high end WR1, I kind of like D. Jackson more than him. I'm probably alone on that one.What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance for contributing

Fitz tops this group, easy. I still feel like he was not quite right early last year after Lienart hung him out in a preseason game and hurt his knee. Then, by the time he was right, he realized how wrong his QB situation was an suffered through from there. Kolb, while he has question marks, is a decent QB and can actually get the ball to Fitz. I see a return to top 5 for him.

I like VJAX as the 6th WR. After AJ, CJ, Fitz, Nicks, and White. But I tend to go by tiers and this is how I tier the WRs:A. JohnsonC. JohnsonFitzRoddyNicksVJAXWallaceJenningsAustinWayneM WilliamsDezD. JacksonBoweHolmesLloydBrittMarshallMaclinHarviinManninghamS JohnsonOchoBoldinCollieRiceWelkerColstonA. GreenS. MossJ. JonesGarconL. MooreS. Smith

Pretty solid, though I'd put Jennings in there with (and maybe above) VJax. I think Jennings plays all season with a chip on his shoulder and goes off.