want to retire from FF / handoff commish duties (1 Viewer)

[BobbyLayne]

FF and the NFL is just not that much fun anymore. I don’t want to get into too deep of a discussion on that aspect but I think a lot of folks share my view the shield is in decline. Just a lousy product these days.

Been playing FF 20+ years and was a pioneer in my primary (18 year) redraft. Hasn’t been fun for a long time. Last year, had a rejuvenation experience - started off 1-4 then 3-6; won my last 5, cruised through the first two playoff games, lost a heartbreaker Final (first ever CG loss.)

This year is just pure drudgery. WWLWWL start but it’s not fun. Not worth getting into why; just trying to figure out how to proceed.

When to announce? Now, playoffs, after season?

Been trying to give away Commish for years. Nobody has stepped up. Gonna try to recruit directly but if that fails I think I should announce I’m retiring and if they want a 19th season someone needs to take the reigns (sooner rather than later.)

Any advice or similar experiences, would appreciate your input.

 

[packer_junkie]

I wouldn't announce now. Wait till the end of the season. They will still have plenty of time to figure things out.

 

[Gally]

I would do it sooner rather than later. Give the league a chance to adjust and find a replacement owner and commish. No reason to wait until after the season if you already know you are retiring.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I hear ya. I retired from FF this past summer and haven’t missed it at all. It just wasn’t as much fun the last few years. I love doing the auctions and drafts, but once the season began, it was a drag, even when my teams were doing well.

 

[Summerofgeorge]

I would wait until the end of the season. Let everyone enjoy the season without worrying about anything

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Same redraft league almost 25 years, Commish finally broke down after near death from Covid, we thought he was done for sure.
Someone volunteered to take over and we've managed to keep him in the league and once in a while we ask for his leadership and chime in as we make up new rules and adjustments.

My advice is you announce it after the season, it can impact someone else who wins this season if you don't make it yourself.
2nd, i would go a year playing but not having to Commish, that's your call and I understand how you feel, i'm going thru similar, used the NFL more as escape from some recent events like Covid to just find some entertainment but I agree with you without asking why, been reading your posts for a long time, hope you stay and still talk NFL even if you decide not to play any more.

I also think it's good to totally unplug when the season is over and try to not look at the NFL news cycle much until about the draft maybe and then unplug from NFL news cycle again until maybe preseason. The NFL wants you glued in 24/7, you have to try and turn away sometimes.

I didn't celebrate the start of 2 other major sports and won't look at them much until Feb if at all. But I bet I'll crave some playoff level hockey and basketball when that rolls around even though i said I won't watch right now.

Cheers Bobby, we love you here

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

I'm on my "retirement season tour" right now in one league and ready to do the same in my other league next year. Right there with you. Just no fun in it anymore, even though I'm in first place and winning the pick'ems by a wide margin. The games just drag on it seems. And the teams in the league are either no shows (their rosters are a mess with IRs and Outs loaded into their active roster going on weeks, even though we have IR in the league). Not sure if it's laziness or not caring attitude but it makes for a really unfun boring league. One guy didn't even bother to put a lineup in with 2 teams on bye and beat the other team that's actually really into FF and had a full squad, just a bad week. Again, why be in a league where half the teams don't care and the ones that do pay for the wasted time and energy.

 

[Birdie048]

I feel the same ... lost the passion ... been playing since Bledsoe's rookie year. Won some, lost many... Commissioned a few leagues for numerous years....
The thing that helped me "revive" my interest was to get into a Dynasty Rebuild. I found a team really bad in a format I liked. It helps, but not all the passion I felt years ago.
I say share at the end of the season. They can figure it all out in the off season.

 

[JohnnyU]

Sooner the better. That way someone could indicate they will take the job beginning next year. If you wait until the season is over, you will already have some who have checked out for season and some who may just say they are done with the league. If a commish is already in place there is less of a chance of that happening.

 

[The Big Donkey]

I'd let them know, especially if it's a redraft league. And agree with JohnnyU's post above. hope someone steps up during the current season for that position next year.

 

[Dave Stauff]

Been on both ends of this. Announced my retirement from my local leagues (2 @ 18 years) after the season - offered to hand them off but no takers. Took over from a retiring commissioner basically because no one else raised their hand and it was a league I really like. So my advice is to announce as soon as you are sure if you're interested in the league surviving your reign. This gives current owners a chance to discuss the future during a period of activity (FF regular season) as opposed to during a down time.

 

[BobbyLayne]

These are great responses, thanks guys.

My only thought in delaying is I don’t want to be a source of negativity. If that makes sense. It’s a fun but competitive league, guys are very active and push hard even when they’re out of contention. Always been a good group with no floaters so easy to be hands off and just ride the good vibes wave.

But letting everyone know now seems like the best way to ensure a good transition. I didn’t found the league but took over from the original Commish around 10-11 years ago. He was a professional blues musician and painter, super chill and the core group was high quality people. I think my first 5-6 years we had 100% retention every year.

Since 2017-18 (whatever year players kneeling was a thing) I’ve had to replace 2-4 owners every year. Dread it every offseason. Love draft prep and the live draft is my favorite day of the year.

I hear ya. I retired from FF this past summer and haven’t missed it at all. It just wasn’t as much fun the last few years. I love doing the auctions and drafts, but once the season began, it was a drag, even when my teams were doing well.

Exactly this.

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[socrates]

I Commish a league that is now in its 32nd year. In the early days, being a Commissioner was quite a chore: I scored the games manually from USA Today newspaper stats (if MNF ended late, those stats were not available until Wed morning), I typed up weekly reports and snail-mailed them to a couple of members who I did not see each week, and I received and managed weekly free agent transactions, etc. Nowadays, league management websites do most of the work. I would have surely burned out long ago under the old system, but I find it is little effort managing a league today.
That said, if Fantasy Football is no longer an enjoyable hobby, stepping down is a good idea. If there is a league member who you believe might consider co-commissioning with you, approach him or her now. Otherwise, wait until the season has concluded.

 

[eighsse2]

*classic throwing-a-cigarette-behind-you-and-strolling-toward-the-camera-as-explosion-erupts-behind-you movie scene*

 

[Neal Cassady]

I feel the same ... lost the passion ... been playing since Bledsoe's rookie year. Won some, lost many... Commissioned a few leagues for numerous years....
The thing that helped me "revive" my interest was to get into a Dynasty Rebuild. I found a team really bad in a format I liked. It helps, but not all the passion I felt years ago.
I say share at the end of the season. They can figure it all out in the off season.

This was me as well. Started playing fantasy football in 1990 I believe. Have been burned out 2 times, with the last being around 2012. I quit altogether for 6 years, where I was offered 2 really bad dynasty teams in 2018, and jumped back in. Really enjoy those teams even today. I don’t think I’d have came back if it weren’t for dynasty. I still have a few redraft teams today, but I could walk away from redraft no problem. Dynasty is so much better, and I have zero burnout.

 

[zamboni]

I can understand, although I'm probably too addicted to this maddening hobby to give it up. Which, I guess, is part of the issue.

BL - if you do quit FF, hope you'll still continue to contribute here. No one else can talk Swift owners off the ledge like you can.

 

[Houston turmOiler]

I felt the same way a few years back. Quit everything for a couple of years and it was pretty nice. I gave them plenty of warning, but they didn't really do anything. So I picked the most logical candidate in my opinion and transferred commissioner powers to him in the off-season. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

My brother-in-law and I got the itch to play again 3 years ago, so we started our own family league... our kids all wanted to play, our wives, uncles, and a grandfather. Now we have a super competitive league with our own rules, and more people waiting to join... but no one wants to drop out. Everyone trades, stays involved... everyone knows each other well so communication is easy. It's more fun than I've ever had, even when I get my a## kicked.

The time off was just what I needed. Never knew we'd end up down this path, but I'm glad we did. Tell the guys whenever you want... you've done the best you can for them running the league. They can figure out how to proceed after the season. You don't owe them more than that. If you're burned out, get out. Doesn't have to be forever. Good luck to you.

 

[Todem]

I would do it sooner rather than later. Give the league a chance to adjust and find a replacement owner and commish. No reason to wait until after the season if you already know you are retiring.

Agree let them know it was a difficult decision....but you have decided to hang it up after the conclusion of this season. This gives all the owners a chance to figure it out.

I am a pioneer FF owner. Started playing back in gulp......1988.

We were in 14 dynasty leagues at one point in 2008. Yeah lunacy.

We are now in just our one 12 team 18th year dynasty league. One league is more than enough for me. However in no way is FF anything like it used to be for me. Now? I could really care less if I win or lose. My fun is constructing the team and scouting rookies every year for our 5 round rookie/free agent draft. Dynasty is the only format I want to play in. Redrafts? That I have been done with for ages.

But I can understand you losing the taste if you cannot enjoy the game itself. The Shield is definitely not what it used to be (contrary to many who think it is better than ever). There are those of us who loved the NFL a lot more in the 80’s, 90’s and early 00’s. So I get it. But I still do enjoy my Sunday afternoons on the couch, relaxing, and watching some football.

I have my one dynasty team and I have been in a weekly picke-em (60 of us at $150 one time entry fee with weekly winners and overall season Top 10 payouts) pool for the last 3 years where we pick every single game vs the spread. I actually won that in my first year. It is awesome. And that definitely has made football each week far more exciting than FF. The days of getting together at a local watering hole eating wings and watching our players has long since passed for our league....everyone is very wrapped up in their lives and I get it....we are all 50 somethings, kids, etc.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I can understand, although I'm probably too addicted to this maddening hobby to give it up. Which, I guess, is part of the issue.

BL - if you do quit FF, hope you'll still continue to contribute here. No one else can talk Swift owners off the ledge like you can.

Good post, one can step back without totally leaving. Im down to just one league but I still stay tuned, same as gambling where I bet far less and far fewer games but still enjoy that aspect of the sport.

 

[Rubiobot]

I quit a few years ago and started enjoying watching football like I used to. I really don't miss fantasy football at all. Of course being a Lions fan sucks the life out of me sometimes but despite that I'm enjoying watching football more now.

I would also let the league know now instead of after the season.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I really don't miss fantasy football at all. Of course being a Lions fan sucks the life out of me sometimes but despite that I'm enjoying watching football more

Being a Lions fan is why I started playing fantasy football. I wanted a team that I had some control over instead of just watching a bunch of idiots that had no idea what they were doing.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

I agree with stepping away from commish duties and just try owning a team for a year if you think it might help.

Also, since you mention the stress of finding replacement owners every offseason, I don't know why this obligation has to fall on you as the commissioner. If three people leave your 12-team league and you have no interest in playing with less than 12 teams, just let your league know what the situation as soon as you know it. Let them know that you have no leads on replacement owners and have no interest in playing in anything less than a 12-team league. Your leaguemates will either find three replacements themselves or they won't and you can walk away from it without being the reason for the demise of the league.

 

[Gatorman]

These are great responses, thanks guys.

My only thought in delaying is I don’t want to be a source of negativity. If that makes sense. It’s a fun but competitive league, guys are very active and push hard even when they’re out of contention. Always been a good group with no floaters so easy to be hands off and just ride the good vibes wave.

But letting everyone know now seems like the best way to ensure a good transition. I didn’t found the league but took over from the original Commish around 10-11 years ago. He was a professional blues musician and painter, super chill and the core group was high quality people. I think my first 5-6 years we had 100% retention every year.

Since 2017-18 (whatever year players kneeling was a thing) I’ve had to replace 2-4 owners every year. Dread it every offseason. Love draft prep and the live draft is my favorite day of the year.

I hear ya. I retired from FF this past summer and haven’t missed it at all. It just wasn’t as much fun the last few years. I love doing the auctions and drafts, but once the season began, it was a drag, even when my teams were doing well.

Exactly this.

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I'm considering this as well. Thought I had hit the sweet spot with 5 leagues last year in terms of mitigation of crap teams and not being so concerend about every player for vs against but this year (and the process leading up to it) was not as fun.

If I were you bobby, I'd float an "I'm considereing leaving" to a few owners you think might want to take the reigns and see how that goes...

 

[Hu-Tang Clan]

For the longest time I used to watch on Sundays with my laptop open with a tab for each league (4-6) and was constantly scrolling the live scoring for immediate updates. I felt that I wasn't actually watching any football and also felt burnt out. Now I submit my lineups and don't even bother looking at my opponents' until maybe Sunday night at the earliest and sometimes not until before MNF. There's nothing I can do to change how players are doing anyway so why get all annoyed that I started Saquon but am also against Saquon etc, who cares? Enjoy watching football and see how my fantasy leagues turned out later.

 

[-OZ-]

Similar scenario. Luckily an assistant stepped up who actually has done the bulk of the work already - schedule, has been around to make commish moves, etc. it’s the best league I’ve been part of, but I’m done with ff after this year anyway. The only reason I stayed in this year was the people, many of which have been together over 20 years. We drafted this league while my wife was pregnant with our first - he now has a team but isn’t overly enthused about it either.

I’ve said I’m leaving in the chat but no official announcement. Reading these replies and the mix of answers doesn’t really clarify that - except those who are also frequently here, so there’s that. Maybe your league mates will read it here and realize it’s you (my name is my team name - I’m not hiding anything)

 

[massraider]

For the longest time I used to watch on Sundays with my laptop open with a tab for each league (4-6) and was constantly scrolling the live scoring for immediate updates. I felt that I wasn't actually watching any football and also felt burnt out. Now I submit my lineups and don't even bother looking at my opponents' until maybe Sunday night at the earliest and sometimes not until before MNF. There's nothing I can do to change how players are doing anyway so why get all annoyed that I started Saquon but am also against Saquon etc, who cares? Enjoy watching football and see how my fantasy leagues turned out later.

I have a friend who has his iPad on his lap, and stares at it during the games. I don't watch with him.

Exactly this.

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Recommend: best ball leagues. Do your prep, do a few drafts, check in during season.


Random question: How many people who are burned out/done not watch football with friends anymore? I have a friend who was bored by fantasy football, I suspect if he was able to watch games and smoke pot with his buddies, he would love it. Instead, his weekends are consumed by the mortal enemy of fantasy football: kiddie soccer

 

[wlwiles]

For the longest time I used to watch on Sundays with my laptop open with a tab for each league (4-6) and was constantly scrolling the live scoring for immediate updates. I felt that I wasn't actually watching any football and also felt burnt out. Now I submit my lineups and don't even bother looking at my opponents' until maybe Sunday night at the earliest and sometimes not until before MNF. There's nothing I can do to change how players are doing anyway so why get all annoyed that I started Saquon but am also against Saquon etc, who cares? Enjoy watching football and see how my fantasy leagues turned out later.

I have a friend who has his iPad on his lap, and stares at it during the games. I don't watch with him.

Exactly this.

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Recommend: best ball leagues. Do your prep, do a few drafts, check in during season.


Random question: How many people who are burned out/done not watch football with friends anymore? I have a friend who was bored by fantasy football, I suspect if he was able to watch games and smoke pot with his buddies, he would love it. Instead, his weekends are consumed by the mortal enemy of fantasy football: kiddie soccer

Except for the Super Bowl, I couldn't tell you the last time I watched an NFL game with friends. I watch with the family, but going to a bar or over to a buddy's place for MNF is something I haven't done in 10+ years. Too much life stuff gets in the way man...I dedicate time to watch my favorite team play when it's one of the earlier Sunday games, and I'll have the TNF, SNF, MNF games on tv just to keep an eye on the scores but don't really get to watch them until after halftime when the kids go to bed.

@BobbyLayne to chime in on your original question (if you haven't made your mind up already) - I'd wait until the end of the year to tell them, for exactly the reason you said just a bit ago. Don't be the league buzzkill by announcing it with a dozen weeks left to go. Once the winners are paid out at Christmas/New Years/whatever, tell them then. They've got months and months to figure out who will be new commish and find a new owner...

 

[BoltNlava]

I am without a team in my fair city. Now I just root for players on teams that I draft. It's really not the same but sometimes it can be better. Usually not, but sometimes better.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

When to announce? Now, playoffs, after season?

I would announce at the end of the season, prior to winnings disbursal.

Keep everyone's attention on football for now, then you'll have their full focus when the time comes for the announcement. I would leave the door open to someone else stepping up as commish, in case you decide you'd like to play again.

We all go through burnout from time to time - maybe by the time the playoffs roll around you'll change your mind about sticking with it, even if not as commish.

 

[Dwayne Hoover]

I don't see much upside in announcing it now. Its just a distraction and puts a damper on the season for the rest of the guys. Plenty of time once season ends to figure out the next path, not sure you gain that much by starting that process now

 

[DocHolliday]

I get the desire to quit FF. I continue to play only to hang with long time friends on draft day and have thought about quitting for the last few years. Honestly,

I would tell your league near the end of the season so that everyone enjoys most of the season without having to worry about next season.

 

[JohnnyU]

I am without a team in my fair city. Now I just root for players on teams that I draft. It's really not the same but sometimes it can be better. Usually not, but sometimes better.

Why do you need a team in your city you live to be a fan of a team? I've been a Colts fan for 56 years and have never lived in Baltimore or Indianapolis. Hell, I've never lived in Maryland or Indiana either. I take that back, I lived in Valparaiso, IN when I was 1 year old for about 6 months.

 

[Pietaster2]

I've been playing FF since 2000 and I go through this every now and then. Any time this happens to me, I take a full year off from fantasy completely, and it always revitalizes me the following year. The recent politics in the NFL almost put me off of the sport forever and taking 2020 off was the best thing I could have done for myself or I might have retired permanently. Here in 2022, I feel like I've finally reached a place where I can watch the play on the field while completely tuning out "the message." I don't presume to know your reasons, but fatigue is a real thing and sabbaticals can help, a lot. There is such a thing as "too much of a good thing."

I don't post much here but I've been lurking since long before the "new forums" in 2003, and you BobbyLayne have been a quality poster for years. We'll miss you and your insights, but life is very short and we are all better served by spending that precious time doing what gives us the most fulfillment.

 

[Moonlight]

I would announce it ASAP. Many owners check out if they do not make the playoffs and most everybody checks out once the season ends.

I would also encourage someone to step forward by letting them know that they can co-commission with you now for the rest of the season. Some owners might be interested who haven't done it before but have concerns about the time or learning the process. Learning the ropes with you can help groom the next commissioner and allay concerns/anxiety.

Additionally, I would post every week the need for a new commissioner to take over until you have a replacement. I wouldn't use guilt or anger just state the need. People often need continued prodding before they step forward.

If no volunteers by season's end, then it's on them to figure it out if they want a league. You can walk away with clean hands.

 

[Moonlight]

I've been playing FF since 2000 and I go through this every now and then. Any time this happens to me, I take a full year off from fantasy completely, and it always revitalizes me the following year. The recent politics in the NFL almost put me off of the sport forever and taking 2020 off was the best thing I could have done for myself or I might have retired permanently. Here in 2022, I feel like I've finally reached a place where I can watch the play on the field while completely tuning out "the message." I don't presume to know your reasons, but fatigue is a real thing and sabbaticals can help, a lot. There is such a thing as "too much of a good thing."

I don't post much here but I've been lurking since long before the "new forums" in 2003, and you BobbyLayne have been a quality poster for years. We'll miss you and your insights, but life is very short and we are all better served by spending that precious time doing what gives us the most fulfillment.

Amen.

 

[JohnnyU]

I get why people are telling you to wait, as to not put a damper on this season for some, but letting the league know early increases the chances of obtaining a new commissioner for 2023 and prevent other league members from quitting the league because of it being in such disarray with the sudden news of having no commissioner. Like I said in my first post, people quit paying attention late in the season if they aren't in the playoffs and as soon as the season is over they all do to some extent. If they know early enough, perhaps the commish issue can be resolved before it becomes a factor in 2023. Just my opinion, you do what you think is best.

 

[BoltNlava]

Why do you need a team in your city you live to be a fan of a team? I've been a Colts fan for 56 years and have never lived in Baltimore or Indianapolis. Hell, I've never lived in Maryland or Indiana either. I take that back, I lived in Valparaiso, IN when I was 1 year old for about 6 months.


This seems different than a guy who grew up watching Fouts, Muncie, Little Train James, Chandler, Humphries, Rivers, Tomlinson, etc...And have it all ripped away by a cry baby Spanos after daddy gave him the reins. Low rent Chargers living in Walmart's clearance section now. Had to substitute somehow.

 

[BoltNlava]

messed up and quoted wrong poster...lol.

 

[Moonlight]

messed up and quoted wrong poster...lol.

This is like Jeopardy I know the answer but what's the question?

 

[JohnnyU]

messed up and quoted wrong poster...lol.

This is like Jeopardy I know the answer but what's the question?

Saw your Avatar of Moonlight Graham and wanted to say he is buried in the same city where I live. Went to see his grave for the first time a few months ago. Lots of baseballs on his grave.

 

[Moonlight]

messed up and quoted wrong poster...lol.

This is like Jeopardy I know the answer but what's the question?

Saw your Avatar of Moonlight Graham and wanted to say he is buried in the same city where I live. Went to see his grave for the first time a few mon ago. Lots of baseballs on his grave.

Love the baseballs. What city?

 

[Judge Smails]

Don’t go into the reasons why. Just say you’re out at the end of the year so they need a new commish and a player to take your spot

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Announce after season. Plenty of time to figure things out. If the league continues....it continues

I gave up commishing a couple local redraft leagues years ago. Was good time drafting/auctioning. Just wasn't worth the hassle with last minute call offs (having to remote in replacement), guys messaging and crying 15 minutes into games they needed a lineup change with guys thatve already started playing / collecting funds. I announced end of season that decided not continue running leagues. Was just a real drain and not fun at end. I just made sure to fulfill my commitment to end of that season. I never even asked / cared to ask if leagues continued (presume not).

Since that time I've just joined best ball leagues. A lot less time commitment. Might even just move to daily fantasy in future and play when I want

 

[Bad_Mo]

FF and the NFL is just not that much fun anymore. I don’t want to get into too deep of a discussion on that aspect but I think a lot of folks share my view the shield is in decline. Just a lousy product these days.

Been playing FF 20+ years and was a pioneer in my primary (18 year) redraft. Hasn’t been fun for a long time. Last year, had a rejuvenation experience - started off 1-4 then 3-6; won my last 5, cruised through the first two playoff games, lost a heartbreaker Final (first ever CG loss.)

This year is just pure drudgery. WWLWWL start but it’s not fun. Not worth getting into why; just trying to figure out how to proceed.

When to announce? Now, playoffs, after season?

Been trying to give away Commish for years. Nobody has stepped up. Gonna try to recruit directly but if that fails I think I should announce I’m retiring and if they want a 19th season someone needs to take the reigns (sooner rather than later.)

Any advice or similar experiences, would appreciate your input.

Long-time co-commish had enough last year and announced before FF playoffs. Struggling with health issues and didn't need added stress of dopes whining about this or that. Another person stepped up and former commish is a co-owner so still involved but no hassles. Basically, tell group you are out and league folds unless someone steps up. Maybe stick around for a year or two just as an owner and re-assess.

 

[JohnnyU]

messed up and quoted wrong poster...lol.

This is like Jeopardy I know the answer but what's the question?

Saw your Avatar of Moonlight Graham and wanted to say he is buried in the same city where I live. Went to see his grave for the first time a few mon ago. Lots of baseballs on his grave.

Love the baseballs. What city?

Rochester, MN Calvary cemetery. I’ll be retiring and moving soon. May move before retiring. As a software developer I work from home anyway, ever since the pandemic in 2020. They decided to keep it that way.

 

[BoltNlava]

I am without a team in my fair city. Now I just root for players on teams that I draft. It's really not the same but sometimes it can be better. Usually not, but sometimes better.

Why do you need a team in your city you live to be a fan of a team? I've been a Colts fan for 56 years and have never lived in Baltimore or Indianapolis. Hell, I've never lived in Maryland or Indiana either. I take that back, I lived in Valparaiso, IN when I was 1 year old for about 6 months.

This seems different than a guy who grew up watching Fouts, Muncie, Little Train James, Chandler, Humphries, Rivers, Tomlinson, etc...And have it all ripped away by a cry baby Spanos after daddy gave him the reins. Low rent Chargers living in Walmart's clearance section now. Had to substitute somehow.

 

[UncleZen]

The best thing I ever did was quit playing for money. I am now in 1 friends and family league and we play for bragging rights. Now I don't have to draft that guy that I really hate, just because he is the best available. A few weeks ago I woke up late to find out Kamara wasn't playing in London and it was too late to change my line-up. Oh well. My opponent just laughed at me for starting a bum in my line up and I was able to laugh along.

 

[JohnnyU]

The best thing I ever did was quit playing for money. I am now in 1 friends and family league and we play for bragging rights. Now I don't have to draft that guy that I really hate, just because he is the best available. A few weeks ago I woke up late to find out Kamara wasn't playing in London and it was too late to change my line-up. Oh well. My opponent just laughed at me for starting a bum in my line up and I was able to laugh along.

I wouldn’t play unless it is for money. I found out a long time ago that people lose interest and quit managing their team when they are eliminated. Some of that happens anyway, but it’s worse when only playing for “bragging rights “.

 

[dmac37]

I really don't miss fantasy football at all. Of course being a Lions fan sucks the life out of me sometimes but despite that I'm enjoying watching football more

Being a Lions fan is why I started playing fantasy football. I wanted a team that I had some control over instead of just watching a bunch of idiots that had no idea what they were doing.

Me too, Millen finally broke me and I could not ruin any more of my weekends dying with this loser franchise. Started playing FF and never looked back.

 

[TampaMike19]

@BobbyLayne I would let them know now so they can get a head start on finding the next one.

I too hate the feeling of watching any player **** the bed, especially on TNF, and you have to wait until Sundays / Monday night to figure out what the rest of your team does.

You want another bite at the apple but you have to wait an entire week.

Too much information out there now- and random variance is helping the perpetual losers of every league now. Parity is up, but I don't think that's a good thing for as much effort one puts into it.

I've put less effort into it as well. But I can't help but get my mood ruined like someone like R. Moore yesterday only catching 1 ****ing pass.

So many more unpredictable, awful games these days. No smoothness- just unnecessary volatility in a hobby that is supposed to be fun.

We ask ourselves...if we're not having any fun, then why are we doing it?

Have to find a way to balance out trying to have fun and investing too much into it.

I think a partial solution is to just look at waivers, do it simple and clean, maybe watch the 1 PM games and then do something else.