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War on Christmas - latest casualty (1 Viewer)

Finally somebody is fighting back!

PHOENIX, Ariz. -- Some might call it the “December Debate.” Do you greet people with “Merry Christmas” or “Happy Holidays?" An Arizona woman, who’s also a bell ringer for the Salvation Army, says she was assaulted for choosing the wrong one.

Kristina Vindiola says a woman hit her outside a Phoenix Walmart after she said "Happy Holidays."

"The lady looked at me,” said Vindiola. “I thought she was going to put money in the kettle. She came up to me and said, 'Do you believe in God?' And she says, ‘You're supposed to say Merry Christmas,' and that's when she hit me."

Vindiola says the woman hit her in the arm and then went inside the store. She told a manager who then called police. Shoppers that Scripps sister station ABC15 spoke with said they understand how some people can get offended.

"I've finally gotten used to 'Happy Holidays' and it's a ‘Happy Holiday' or a ‘Merry Christmas,' I'm good with either one," said one woman.

Another, who works for a public school district told ABC15 she says "‘Merry Christmas' to most people. At work when I'm sending emails and to be politically correct it’s ‘Happy Holidays’ because we're supposed to."

A third shopper pointed to her faith as to why she says "Merry Christmas."

"I'm a Christian," she said, “and that is what it means to me, you know it's a celebration of Christ's birth.”

Apparently, not everyone agrees with that and the bell ringer who said she was assaulted now plans to take legal action.

"She should've just been happy I said 'Happy Holidays,' but I got hit because I didn't say 'Merry Christmas,'" Vindiola said.

The Salvation Army says it doesn't have a policy as to what its bell ringers should say, they can say "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays."

Phoenix police looked at surveillance video but didn't have enough evidence to arrest the woman accused in the assault.
 
I usually reply to a "Merry Christmas" with a "Happy Saturnalia", then I kick them in the groin
More Christmas-saving warriors!

Someone tried to torch the “Saturnalia” billboard on the edge of town Tuesday night.

An off-duty police officer from another municipality was in Carolina Blue with a number of friends when they looked across the intersection of Lambs Road and Holly Avenue at about 11:45 p.m. and spotted two men underneath the billboard, which proclaims “Keep Saturn in Saturnalia.”

The billboard was erected by the Freedom from Religion Foundation, the organization’s way of countering the “Keep Christ in Christmas” banner that hangs across Broadway, Pitman’s main thoroughfare. The Christmas banner is erected by the Knights of Columbus.

The FFRF has been objecting to the Christmas banner since at least 2011, insisting it is illegally hung, without receipt of proper permits.

Despite the fact that the billboard features a depiction of the ringed planet Saturn, Saturnalia was an ancient Roman holiday named after Saturn, a Roman deity. The holiday took place near the Winter Solstice — which occurs on Dec. 21 this year — and featured public feasting and gift-giving.

Pitman police said they were told that the off-duty police officer spotted the men tossing gasoline on the billboard or its supports and then lighting it. The fire did not stay lit and the men, spotting the people approaching them from across the street, fled in a possibly blue-and-silver Chevrolet Model 1500 pickup truck with ladder racks, said police.

The attempted arson isn’t the first protest at the billboard.

On Sunday, a man in a Santa Claus suit stood at the sign for some time.

Also on Sunday, a man accompanied by a woman and child put an extension ladder against the billboard and prepared to climb up and paste a poster with a picture of a manger on it over top of the Saturnalia sign. Police intervened and the protesters left.
 
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Does anyone here actually know a person (IRL) who is offended by Merry Christmas?

Apparently it's a huge problem but I don't believe these people exist in any real number.

 
Andy Williams - 1963

pretty sure he's talking about Christmas too

Happy Holiday

Happy Holiday
While the merry bells keep ringing
May your every wish come true

Happy Holiday
Happy Holiday
May the calendar keep bringing
Happy Holidays to you

It's the holiday season
And Santa Claus is coming back
The Christmas snow is white on the ground
When old Santa gets into town
He'll be coming down the chimney, down
Coming down the chimney, down

It's the holiday season
And Santa Claus has got a toy
For every good girl and good little boy
He's a great big bundle of joy
He'll be coming down the chimney, down
Coming down the chimney, down

He'll have a big fat pack upon his back
And lots of goodies for you and me
So leave a peppermint stick for old St. Nick
Hanging on the Christmas tree

It's the holiday season
With the whoop-de-do and hickory dock
And don't forget to hang up your sock
'Cause just exactly at 12 o'clock
He'll be coming down the chimney
Coming down the chimney
Coming down the chimney, down!

Happy Holiday
Happy Holiday
While the merry bells keep bringing
Happy Holidays to you

Happy Holiday
Happy Holiday
May the calendar keep bringing
Happy Holidays to you
To you
Happy Holiday
Happy Holiday
Happy Holiday
 
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Does anyone here actually know a person (IRL) who is offended by Merry Christmas?

Apparently it's a huge problem but I don't believe these people exist in any real number.
No, but be prepared to duck if you tell enough people "Happy Hollidays".

 
I always assumed that when someone said Happy Holidays to me that they meant both Merry Christmas and Happy New Year....I had no idea that they were waging war on Christmas

 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/christmas-stricken-from-school-calendar-after-muslims-ask-for-equal-treatment/2014/11/11/f1b789a6-6931-11e4-a31c-77759fc1eacc_story.html

I'm glad my county is finally taking a stand against the oppressive use of words like Christmas and Rosh Hashana.

Holidays’ names stricken from next year’s Montgomery schools calendar
Christmas and Easter have been stricken from next year’s school calendar in Montgomery County. So have Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah.

Montgomery’s Board of Education voted 7 to 1 Tuesday to eliminate references to all religious holidays on the published calendar for 2015-2016, a decision that followed a request from Muslim community leaders to give equal billing to the Muslim holy day of Eid al-Adha.

In practical terms, Montgomery schools will still be closed for the Christian and Jewish holidays, as in previous years, and students will still get the same days off, as planned.

Board members said Tuesday that the new calendar will reflect days the state requires the system to be closed and that it will close on other days that have shown a high level of student and staff absenteeism. Though those days happen to coincide with major Christian and Jewish holidays, board members made clear that the days off are not meant to observe those religious holidays, which they say is not legally permitted.The main and most noticeable difference will be that the published calendar will not mention any religious holidays by name.

Muslim community leaders have been asking Montgomery school officials for years to close schools for at least one of the two major Muslim holidays.

It is unclear how many Muslim students attend Montgomery schools, but in 2013, Muslim community leaders urged Muslim families and their supporters to keep students home for Eid ­al-Adha, hoping that the number of absentees would be persuasive as they made their case for a school closing. Montgomery school officials reported that absences for that day — 5.6 percent of students and 5 percent of teachers — were only somewhat higher than a comparable day the previous week.


Students who miss classes on religious holidays are given excused absences. But Muslim families have argued that students should not have to choose between their faith and their schoolwork and that missing even a day leaves many students behind. They say the day off is a matter of equity, with Christian and Jewish students getting days off for their holidays.

But Tuesday’s outcome was not at all what Muslim leaders intended. They called the decision a surprise — and a glaring mistake.

“By stripping the names Christmas, Easter, Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, they have alienated other communities now, and we are no closer to equality,” said Saqib Ali, a former Maryland state delegate and co-chair of the Equality for Eid Coalition. “It’s a pretty drastic step, and they did it without any public notification.”

Zainab Chaudry, also a co-chair of the coalition, expressed dismay, too, contending the school board’s members were willing to “go so far as to paint themselves as the Grinch who stole Christmas” to avoid granting equal treatment for the Muslim holiday.


“They would remove the Christian holidays and they would remove the Jewish holidays from the calendar before they would consider adding the Muslim holiday to the calendar,” she said.

Muslim leaders had focused their efforts for the next school year on having the holiday of Eid ­al-Adha recognized with equal prominence on the published school calendar because the holiday falls on the same day as Yom Kippur, when Montgomery schools are already closed. They had said the step was symbolic but important.


Superintendent Joshua P. Starr presented the board with three options to resolve the question Tuesday, and a majority of members supported his recommended proposal to do away with the names of both the Muslim and the Jewish holidays on the calendar. But amending the proposal, the board opted to ditch references to Christmas and Easter, too.

Board members pointed to the Fairfax County school system’s calendar as an example; the largest school district in Virginia does not call out such religious holidays by name. In Montgomery, closing schools for Jewish holidays began in the 1970s. In voting to scrub the holiday names from the calendar, board members said they were trying to reflect the reason schools are closed on religious holidays: because of operational impacts — such as expected high absenteeism among students and staff on those days — not because the school system is observing a religious occasion.

“This seems the most equitable option,” said board member Rebecca Smondrowski (District 2), who offered the amendment.

Board members talked at length about not wishing to disrespect the Muslim community or those from other faiths. Muslim community members and their supporters packed the meeting room.

Several board members pledged to produce a clearer standard for the kind of operational impacts that might lead to further consideration of closing schools on a Muslim holiday in the future. The calendar change Tuesday affects only the next school year.

Board member Michael A. Durso (District 5) was the sole vote against the calendar change. During the board’s discussion, he noted that Montgomery brags about its diversity and its embrace of different cultures. “No matter how well-intentioned we are, it comes off as insensitive” to Muslim families, he said.


School officials said the time off in December would become “winter break,” while the time off around the Easter holiday would be called “spring break.” Other days, such as Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, would be simply listed as a day when there is “no school for students and teachers.”
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/christmas-stricken-from-school-calendar-after-muslims-ask-for-equal-treatment/2014/11/11/f1b789a6-6931-11e4-a31c-77759fc1eacc_story.html

I'm glad my county is finally taking a stand against the oppressive use of words like Christmas and Rosh Hashana.

Holidays’ names stricken from next year’s Montgomery schools calendar
Christmas and Easter have been stricken from next year’s school calendar in Montgomery County. So have Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah.

Montgomery’s Board of Education voted 7 to 1 Tuesday to eliminate references to all religious holidays on the published calendar for 2015-2016, a decision that followed a request from Muslim community leaders to give equal billing to the Muslim holy day of Eid al-Adha.

In practical terms, Montgomery schools will still be closed for the Christian and Jewish holidays, as in previous years, and students will still get the same days off, as planned.

Board members said Tuesday that the new calendar will reflect days the state requires the system to be closed and that it will close on other days that have shown a high level of student and staff absenteeism. Though those days happen to coincide with major Christian and Jewish holidays, board members made clear that the days off are not meant to observe those religious holidays, which they say is not legally permitted.The main and most noticeable difference will be that the published calendar will not mention any religious holidays by name.

Muslim community leaders have been asking Montgomery school officials for years to close schools for at least one of the two major Muslim holidays.

It is unclear how many Muslim students attend Montgomery schools, but in 2013, Muslim community leaders urged Muslim families and their supporters to keep students home for Eid ­al-Adha, hoping that the number of absentees would be persuasive as they made their case for a school closing. Montgomery school officials reported that absences for that day — 5.6 percent of students and 5 percent of teachers — were only somewhat higher than a comparable day the previous week.


Students who miss classes on religious holidays are given excused absences. But Muslim families have argued that students should not have to choose between their faith and their schoolwork and that missing even a day leaves many students behind. They say the day off is a matter of equity, with Christian and Jewish students getting days off for their holidays.

But Tuesday’s outcome was not at all what Muslim leaders intended. They called the decision a surprise — and a glaring mistake.

“By stripping the names Christmas, Easter, Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, they have alienated other communities now, and we are no closer to equality,” said Saqib Ali, a former Maryland state delegate and co-chair of the Equality for Eid Coalition. “It’s a pretty drastic step, and they did it without any public notification.”

Zainab Chaudry, also a co-chair of the coalition, expressed dismay, too, contending the school board’s members were willing to “go so far as to paint themselves as the Grinch who stole Christmas” to avoid granting equal treatment for the Muslim holiday.


“They would remove the Christian holidays and they would remove the Jewish holidays from the calendar before they would consider adding the Muslim holiday to the calendar,” she said.

Muslim leaders had focused their efforts for the next school year on having the holiday of Eid ­al-Adha recognized with equal prominence on the published school calendar because the holiday falls on the same day as Yom Kippur, when Montgomery schools are already closed. They had said the step was symbolic but important.


Superintendent Joshua P. Starr presented the board with three options to resolve the question Tuesday, and a majority of members supported his recommended proposal to do away with the names of both the Muslim and the Jewish holidays on the calendar. But amending the proposal, the board opted to ditch references to Christmas and Easter, too.

Board members pointed to the Fairfax County school system’s calendar as an example; the largest school district in Virginia does not call out such religious holidays by name. In Montgomery, closing schools for Jewish holidays began in the 1970s. In voting to scrub the holiday names from the calendar, board members said they were trying to reflect the reason schools are closed on religious holidays: because of operational impacts — such as expected high absenteeism among students and staff on those days — not because the school system is observing a religious occasion.

“This seems the most equitable option,” said board member Rebecca Smondrowski (District 2), who offered the amendment.

Board members talked at length about not wishing to disrespect the Muslim community or those from other faiths. Muslim community members and their supporters packed the meeting room.

Several board members pledged to produce a clearer standard for the kind of operational impacts that might lead to further consideration of closing schools on a Muslim holiday in the future. The calendar change Tuesday affects only the next school year.

Board member Michael A. Durso (District 5) was the sole vote against the calendar change. During the board’s discussion, he noted that Montgomery brags about its diversity and its embrace of different cultures. “No matter how well-intentioned we are, it comes off as insensitive” to Muslim families, he said.


School officials said the time off in December would become “winter break,” while the time off around the Easter holiday would be called “spring break.” Other days, such as Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, would be simply listed as a day when there is “no school for students and teachers.”
I agree with this decision.. where does it end? every nutbag religion is going to want holidays, so the best thing to do is to remove all religious holiday references from the calendar, but still give the legally approved days off!!

 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/christmas-stricken-from-school-calendar-after-muslims-ask-for-equal-treatment/2014/11/11/f1b789a6-6931-11e4-a31c-77759fc1eacc_story.html

I'm glad my county is finally taking a stand against the oppressive use of words like Christmas and Rosh Hashana.

Holidays’ names stricken from next year’s Montgomery schools calendar
Christmas and Easter have been stricken from next year’s school calendar in Montgomery County. So have Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah.

Montgomery’s Board of Education voted 7 to 1 Tuesday to eliminate references to all religious holidays on the published calendar for 2015-2016, a decision that followed a request from Muslim community leaders to give equal billing to the Muslim holy day of Eid al-Adha.

In practical terms, Montgomery schools will still be closed for the Christian and Jewish holidays, as in previous years, and students will still get the same days off, as planned.

Board members said Tuesday that the new calendar will reflect days the state requires the system to be closed and that it will close on other days that have shown a high level of student and staff absenteeism. Though those days happen to coincide with major Christian and Jewish holidays, board members made clear that the days off are not meant to observe those religious holidays, which they say is not legally permitted.The main and most noticeable difference will be that the published calendar will not mention any religious holidays by name.

Muslim community leaders have been asking Montgomery school officials for years to close schools for at least one of the two major Muslim holidays.

It is unclear how many Muslim students attend Montgomery schools, but in 2013, Muslim community leaders urged Muslim families and their supporters to keep students home for Eid ­al-Adha, hoping that the number of absentees would be persuasive as they made their case for a school closing. Montgomery school officials reported that absences for that day — 5.6 percent of students and 5 percent of teachers — were only somewhat higher than a comparable day the previous week.


Students who miss classes on religious holidays are given excused absences. But Muslim families have argued that students should not have to choose between their faith and their schoolwork and that missing even a day leaves many students behind. They say the day off is a matter of equity, with Christian and Jewish students getting days off for their holidays.

But Tuesday’s outcome was not at all what Muslim leaders intended. They called the decision a surprise — and a glaring mistake.

“By stripping the names Christmas, Easter, Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, they have alienated other communities now, and we are no closer to equality,” said Saqib Ali, a former Maryland state delegate and co-chair of the Equality for Eid Coalition. “It’s a pretty drastic step, and they did it without any public notification.”

Zainab Chaudry, also a co-chair of the coalition, expressed dismay, too, contending the school board’s members were willing to “go so far as to paint themselves as the Grinch who stole Christmas” to avoid granting equal treatment for the Muslim holiday.


“They would remove the Christian holidays and they would remove the Jewish holidays from the calendar before they would consider adding the Muslim holiday to the calendar,” she said.

Muslim leaders had focused their efforts for the next school year on having the holiday of Eid ­al-Adha recognized with equal prominence on the published school calendar because the holiday falls on the same day as Yom Kippur, when Montgomery schools are already closed. They had said the step was symbolic but important.


Superintendent Joshua P. Starr presented the board with three options to resolve the question Tuesday, and a majority of members supported his recommended proposal to do away with the names of both the Muslim and the Jewish holidays on the calendar. But amending the proposal, the board opted to ditch references to Christmas and Easter, too.

Board members pointed to the Fairfax County school system’s calendar as an example; the largest school district in Virginia does not call out such religious holidays by name. In Montgomery, closing schools for Jewish holidays began in the 1970s. In voting to scrub the holiday names from the calendar, board members said they were trying to reflect the reason schools are closed on religious holidays: because of operational impacts — such as expected high absenteeism among students and staff on those days — not because the school system is observing a religious occasion.

“This seems the most equitable option,” said board member Rebecca Smondrowski (District 2), who offered the amendment.

Board members talked at length about not wishing to disrespect the Muslim community or those from other faiths. Muslim community members and their supporters packed the meeting room.

Several board members pledged to produce a clearer standard for the kind of operational impacts that might lead to further consideration of closing schools on a Muslim holiday in the future. The calendar change Tuesday affects only the next school year.

Board member Michael A. Durso (District 5) was the sole vote against the calendar change. During the board’s discussion, he noted that Montgomery brags about its diversity and its embrace of different cultures. “No matter how well-intentioned we are, it comes off as insensitive” to Muslim families, he said.


School officials said the time off in December would become “winter break,” while the time off around the Easter holiday would be called “spring break.” Other days, such as Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, would be simply listed as a day when there is “no school for students and teachers.”
:shrug: Our school system has been like this for years. People think it's silly, but no one really cares. Winter break, Christmas break, whatever.

 
I don't have a problem with the decision but will this eventually lead to complaints about when the kids have off? Why during Christmas time and not Ramadan?

 
:shrug: Our school system has been like this for years. People think it's silly, but no one really cares. Winter break, Christmas break, whatever.
That's sort of how I assumed it was here too, at least for the Christian holidays, but apparently not. For some reason the breaks were divided up on the calendar:

Wed and Thurs, December 24 and 25 Holidays - Christmas Offices and schools closed

December 26, 29, 30, 31 Winter Break No school for students and teachers
Fri and Mon, April 3 and 6 Holidays - Good Friday and Easter Monday Offices and schools closed

Tues through Fri, April 7, 8, 9, 10

Spring Break No school for students and teachers
 
Winter break,Spring break,Summer break,Mid-winter before spring before the ice thaws break. What's the difference!? Celebrate YOUR holidays YOUR way with YOUR friends and family and let everyone else do the same. Call them all "Another week off from school break".

 
I think some of you live in places where schools do not close for Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. It is weird to have schools closed on some random day without identifying why. It's not a fall break or anything, it's just a single day off school for each.

 
I don't think public schools should have days off for any religious holidays other than Christmas which is considered a national holiday.

 
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I don't think public schools should have days off for any religious holidays other than Christmas which is considered a national holiday.
According to this site, Jews make up 18% of this county's population. If even half of those kids would miss school on the high holidays, that's a lot of absenteeism. Why wouldn't you try to schedule your days of school when people will actually be able to attend?

 
I don't have a problem with the decision but will this eventually lead to complaints about when the kids have off? Why during Christmas time and not Ramadan?
That's how you end up with this:

Additionally, UPS recognizes but does not observe the following dates. All regular services are available.

Holiday Date
Martin Luther King Jr. Day (MLK) January 20, 2014
Chinese New Year January 31, 2014
Valentine's Day February 14, 2014
President's Day February 17, 2014
Daylight Saving Time begins March 9, 2014
St. Patrick's Day March 17, 2014
Passover April 15, 2014
Easter April 20, 2014
Earth Day April 22, 2014
Cinco de Mayo May 5, 2014
Mother's Day May 11, 2014
Flag Day June 14, 2014
Father's Day June 15, 2014
Ramadan begins June 29, 2014
UPS Founders' Day August 28, 2014
Rosh Hashanah September 25, 2014
Yom Kippur October 4, 2014
Columbus Day October 13, 2014
Halloween October 31, 2014
Daylight Saving Time ends November 2, 2014
Veterans Day November 11, 2014
Hanukkah December 17, 2014
Christmas Eve December 24, 2014***
Day after Christmas December 26, 2014****
Kwanzaa December 26, 2014****
http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/ship/imp_exp/operation.html

 
Instead if paid holidays, I would prefer my company just give me 2 additional weeks of vacation and wipe every holiday off the map, then I can choose which ones to use my vacation -

example

MLK Day - too freezing cold in January.. pass

Presidents Day - see above (though I may trade it for day after Super Bowl)

NCAA Tourney - 2 days (should be a holiday)

Good Friday - meh - trade it for a nice summer long weekend

keep Memorial Day, July 4, Labor Day

Columbus day -meh.. see good Friday

Veterans Day - too close to T-Giving -- trade it for summer

T-Giving - 2 days- best holiday of year

Xmas/ NYD - one day each..

 
I used to pull my daughter out of school for opening day and didn't care what the school said - what's wrong with these people - just do it and forget the official stuff

 
Instead if paid holidays, I would prefer my company just give me 2 additional weeks of vacation and wipe every holiday off the map, then I can choose which ones to use my vacation -

example

MLK Day - too freezing cold in January.. pass

Presidents Day - see above (though I may trade it for day after Super Bowl)

NCAA Tourney - 2 days (should be a holiday)

Good Friday - meh - trade it for a nice summer long weekend

keep Memorial Day, July 4, Labor Day

Columbus day -meh.. see good Friday

Veterans Day - too close to T-Giving -- trade it for summer

T-Giving - 2 days- best holiday of year

Xmas/ NYD - one day each..
Disagree with the Xmas/NYD here.

I have to go in on the 26th and the 2nd, while the wife has off and I'm green with jealousy. Only time it should be a 1 day affair is on a Wednesday.

 
Students who miss classes on religious holidays are given excused absences. But Muslim families have argued that students should not have to choose between their faith and their schoolwork and that missing even a day leaves many students behind. They say the day off is a matter of equity, with Christian and Jewish students getting days off for their holidays.

But Tuesday’s outcome was not at all what Muslim leaders intended. They called the decision a surprise — and a glaring mistake.

“By stripping the names Christmas, Easter, Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, they have alienated other communities now, and we are no closer to equality,” said Saqib Ali, a former Maryland state delegate and co-chair of the Equality for Eid Coalition. “It’s a pretty drastic step, and they did it without any public notification.”

Zainab Chaudry, also a co-chair of the coalition, expressed dismay, too, contending the school board’s members were willing to “go so far as to paint themselves as the Grinch who stole Christmas” to avoid granting equal treatment for the Muslim holiday.


“They would remove the Christian holidays and they would remove the Jewish holidays from the calendar before they would consider adding the Muslim holiday to the calendar,” she said.

Muslim leaders had focused their efforts for the next school year on having the holiday of Eid ­al-Adha recognized with equal prominence on the published school calendar because the holiday falls on the same day as Yom Kippur, when Montgomery schools are already closed. They had said the step was symbolic but important.
Far from a war on Christmas. Gutless school board.

 
Man, can you imagine the "SHARIA LAW IS COMING TO AMERICA" hysteria if they had put Eid on the school calendar? Hannity's outrage gland might have gained sentience, clawed its way out of his skill, and gone on to host it's own show.

 
Our HS district changed the name of Easter and Christmas vacations to "Spring" and "Winter" breaks about 15 years ago and nobody cared.

Then this one lunatic fundamentalist gasbag got elected to the board. He changed them back. They've been Easter and Christmas ever since.

 
I keep checking the casualty list hoping it'll be that elf who wants to be the dentist.

Hate that elf.

 
Greg Russell said:
I keep checking the casualty list hoping it'll be that elf who wants to be the dentist.

Hate that elf.
Dude, Hermey is one righteous elf. He's a bit of a rebel while being a joiner. I mean he was willing to be independent, together. And let's not forget that he rendered the Bumble mighty humble.

 
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Our HS district changed the name of Easter and Christmas vacations to "Spring" and "Winter" breaks about 15 years ago and nobody cared.

Then this one lunatic fundamentalist gasbag got elected to the board. He changed them back. They've been Easter and Christmas ever since.
#### that guy.

 
Mission Accomplished....

Bill O’Reilly: I Won the War on Christmas“This is the only year we have not had a store that commanded its employees not to say ‘Merry Christmas,’” a victorious Bill O’Reilly said on Late Night with Seth Myers Wednesday evening. “It’s over. We won.”

“Anybody can say Merry Christmas if they want,” O’Reilly said, adding, “They don’t have to.”

It was unclear at press time who exactly O’Reilly defeated, though he boasted he’s been prosecuting this case for ten years, which seems like a worthy use of everybody’s time.
 
Mission Accomplished....

Bill O’Reilly: I Won the War on Christmas“This is the only year we have not had a store that commanded its employees not to say ‘Merry Christmas,’” a victorious Bill O’Reilly said on Late Night with Seth Myers Wednesday evening. “It’s over. We won.”

“Anybody can say Merry Christmas if they want,” O’Reilly said, adding, “They don’t have to.”

It was unclear at press time who exactly O’Reilly defeated, though he boasted he’s been prosecuting this case for ten years, which seems like a worthy use of everybody’s time.
I think we all died a little in that Damn war.

- Josie Wales

 
I ordered a gift online today. There was an option to type in a personal message, with a drop down for "occasion."

I looked through the drop-down list three times, wondering why I wasn't seeing "Christmas" as an option.

Then . . . there it was: "Holiday"

I'm not religious, but I've always said Merry Christmas to people, and I always will.

You don't have to believe Jesus was a member of the holy trinity to use the term "Merry Christmas."

As for those who are offended by it . . . well, let's just say their "right" not to be offended does not trump my right to greet people the way I see fit.

 
I think i say Happy Holidays b/c its shorter than having to say Merry Christmas and Happy New Years. The less words I have to say to people the better.

 

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