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Week 1: I'm benching Ray Rice for... (1 Viewer)
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BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
NO.......hes my # 1 rb....he gonna get 20 touches and goaline carries
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Never sit your stud RB's.
MAYBE a WR outside the top-3/4 facing a shutdown CB. But not a RB.
MAYBE a WR outside the top-3/4 facing a shutdown CB. But not a RB.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Don't sit your studs, but those other 3 guys will all score more points this week.
LT21
Footballguy
From NFL.com:
Just keep in mind that he was absolutely dreadful against the Steelers in 2010. In his two starts, he averaged a terrible 26 rushing yards. Rice also rushed for just 32 yards against them in the postseason.
I thought it was dumb to sit a stud but this should be considered.
Just keep in mind that he was absolutely dreadful against the Steelers in 2010. In his two starts, he averaged a terrible 26 rushing yards. Rice also rushed for just 32 yards against them in the postseason.
I thought it was dumb to sit a stud but this should be considered.
LT21
Footballguy
So you're saying you sit him...
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
NBYS
Run It Up
Footballguy
Exception to the rule.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Run DMC @DenverP.Hillis CINC.Wells flex CARClose
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LT21
Footballguy
We used to also say that a QB never loses his starting job due to injury but that doesn't apply any longer...
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
If you were smart and drafted deep, WTH not bench him if you have obvious better choices? I love Rice, am glad I have him but no need to get zipped the first week if you don't need to.
his floor is 20 yards rushing no touchdownsHis backups easily beat that.that said i would start Rice over D. Williams but would start d. mcfadden and beanie wells over him .i would also start Lee Evans over him.
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LT21
Footballguy
I was thinking that also but I don't think Carolina signs D. Williams to that large of a contract and not make him the primary RB with the majority of the touches. Arizona's run defense doesn't look too scary.
Clifford
Footballguy
tough to say. I back off my kiddie pool statement. thought this was just one of those "hey look at me I'm thinking outside the box" threads but the track record against Pitt and the fact that their defense is just hellish against the run year after year is reason to pause and think about it.
Run It Up
Footballguy
Do you always set a players floor at the one time they have been injured in their two years in the NFL? Rice avgs when healthy 14.7 pts against the steelers, the only reason its so low is the second time they met last year the steelers were playing some of the best defense ive ever seen. Two of those games he rushed for more than 80 yds, one of those he rushed for 140 yds. He would have likely had a TD or two as Mcgahee had the goal line carries during all of these games.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
How was TP doing that season?
Grand Poobah
Footballguy
PPR or standard?No way i sit Rice in ppr
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Is this 2010?
solorca
Footballguy
People kept telling me to not bench my studs last year when I benched Ray Rice both times against the Steelers. I would have lost both games if I listened to that advice.
It all depends on who you have behind him, but if you can back him up with a solid play, I don't think it's the worst choice ever.
It all depends on who you have behind him, but if you can back him up with a solid play, I don't think it's the worst choice ever.
LT21
Footballguy
Since 2011 hasn't started yet, what else do you have to use to make your decision?How about this? Who is on everyone's bench for those that are starting Rice. It's easy to say never bench your stud if you don't have any alternatives.Is this 2010?
LT21
Footballguy
This is good information and the type of comment that I think most people are looking for to help make an informed decision. I'm not claiming that everyone should bench Rice, I think most are looking for reasons why they shouldn't do what logic may be telling them to do.Thanks for posting this. It's a lot more useful than the people who don't give any reasoning for their comments.
Clifford
Footballguy
Bradshaw@WAS, BJGE@MIA, and WellsvCAR in a TD heavy league.Suppose I could trot out any of those three. I'm just not convinced any of them are better plays this week. Maybe Bradshaw...Since 2011 hasn't started yet, what else do you have to use to make your decision?How about this? Who is on everyone's bench for those that are starting Rice. It's easy to say never bench your stud if you don't have any alternatives.Is this 2010?
Man In The Box
Footballguy
I'd have to bench him for the likes of Spiller, Delone Carter, MSW, or Mike Thomas. Pretty safe to say he'll be in my lineup.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
glumpy
breeze
I could bench him for Marshawn (bad matchup), Dez (another bad matchup) or Collie (not looking good)--but they don't look so promising either.
From USAToday: Worst matchups
From USAToday: Worst matchups
simey
Footballguy
I'm playing Rice because my other options are Mendenhall or Felix Jones, and I don't think their matchups are any better. Teams change from year to year, so he may have success this season against the Steelers. He catches the ball too, so that's a plus. First games of the season can be sloppy as well, so hopefully the steel curtain won't be in mid-season form. I hope for the best.
yes my floor would be set at the lowest conceivable rational outcome. I can easily envision the steelers shutting down rice early, throwing for a lead and forcing the ravens to air it out.Leading to 30 yds rusing, 4 catches 20 yds and 0 td for 9 points in pprI think 14-20 is more likely but I would rather start McFadden and Wells who I think will beat that this week. could he blow up, absolutely there is a reason I had him #2 all off season. this week I am glad I never got the opportunity to draft him.
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Stillers Jr.
Footballguy
It's week one though.
Although you'd think the Steelers D will be as tough as last year, things change drastically year to year.
If he gets shut down this week and the Steeler D is mowing people down, then for game 2 in Pitt, yeah I think about it.
But week 1? Nah, Start Ray Rice.
Although you'd think the Steelers D will be as tough as last year, things change drastically year to year.
If he gets shut down this week and the Steeler D is mowing people down, then for game 2 in Pitt, yeah I think about it.
But week 1? Nah, Start Ray Rice.
Kleck
Footballguy
Same as always. Got wiped with and flushed a lot.
I have seen enough this preseason to think they will be shutting down the run the same as usual. secondary maybe not so much.
why bother picking backups if you don't use them from time to time
gigantor
Footballguy
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
Benching him for MJD and S. Greene. Most likely the ONE week I'll do it.
I'm starting MJD and Wells (over Rice) due to Rice's showing the past 3 games vs. Pitt and Wells opportunity as the primary ball carrier vs a sorry Carolina team that may be w/o Beason. I'm expecting that AZ will be up and will run to preserve the win.
Sure NBYS is a nice mantra but sometimes you have to go against the grain to be top dog.
Disclosure for perspective: I'm in a 14 team 4 man keeper non-ppr league, start 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and no flex. We play a double header this week since playoffs are weeks 14-16. I'm also starting Stafford, Roddy, Megatron and Jimmy Graham. Drafted Wells in first round... and I know that no one cares about my team.
Sure NBYS is a nice mantra but sometimes you have to go against the grain to be top dog.
Disclosure for perspective: I'm in a 14 team 4 man keeper non-ppr league, start 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and no flex. We play a double header this week since playoffs are weeks 14-16. I'm also starting Stafford, Roddy, Megatron and Jimmy Graham. Drafted Wells in first round... and I know that no one cares about my team.
Run It Up
Footballguy
This logic is baffling. Even if you count the last 3 games (including the one where he was injured) he has still done more than Beanie has ever in the NFL...
