Week 8 Waiver Wire Defense? (2 Viewers)

[solorca]

Who are you guys going with this week? I decided to hold on to the Cardinals last week, and it paid off with a 13 point performance against the Vikings. I think this is the week to let them go though, since they have the 49ers, Packers, a bye, and the Falcons over the next four weeks. I don't think they are strong enough to sit on the bench for a full month, even though they are the #3 scorer in my league so far.

My top available choices are...

San Diego - I am leaning toward the Chargers, but playing at Cleveland isn't the guaranteed solid FF points it used to be. I prefer to have a home team when possible as well. An advantage is that they have a good run of games, so they could be kept for a few weeks.

Cleveland - Playing at home against the Chargers. San Diego has turned the ball over a lot this season and Cleveland's defense has been surprisingly good (at least in my leagues scoring)...so they are a solid possibility.

Detroit - Even in a game where they were embarrassed, they did a decent job of putting up fantasy points against the Bears. The Seahawks are a good team, but they haven't put up a ton of points (and Wilson gets sacked quite a bit). This is a risky choice, but even with a lot of points scored against them in most games this year, Detroit has been decent from a fantasy perspective.

Kansas City - At home against the Raiders. I will probably avoid them because their offense is likely to put the Raiders in good field position.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

The Packers are available in my league. I'm envisioning Clay Matthews doing to Gabbert what he did week 2 to Cutler. Plus Cobb is a guy who is always a threat to take it to the house on special teams.

Of your choices, I think the Browns have the best defense.

 

[shadyridr]

I like KC. That being said I think Ill just stick with Arizona one more week. Obviously the 49ers running game is a concern.

 

[Annyong]

at least defense was spelled right this week.

I'm sticking w/ Az myself. Thinking about NE@StL or KC@Oak though.

 

[packersfan]

Jets, Lions, Titans, Browns and Raiders are the best available in my league. We also get team victory points so that factors into the equation. I currently have them ranked:

1. Lions

2. Jets

3. Titans

4. Raiders

5. Browns

I'm flip-flopping between the Lions and Jets. Can't decide which one I like more although it's possible after all the Waivers run that I'll end up with the Titans.

 

[Isotopes]

I am deciding between AZ and ATL. Leaning towards ATL right now, the Eagles have been turning the ball over plenty.

 

[schlesinj]

I am deciding between AZ and ATL. Leaning towards ATL right now, the Eagles have been turning the ball over plenty.

I am doing the same, but Andy Reid never loses after his bye and you would think the offense might right the ship.

 

[just_want_2_win]

Dolphins @ NYJ. Shonn Greene took a big hit last week, Bilal Powell out with a shoulder injury. Miami's D has looked pretty good most of the season.

NYG @ Cowboys. A couple leagues I'm in have NYG on waivers. They did ok last week against the 'skins. Dallas often good for a T.O. or two.

 

[donkshow]

Dolphins @ NYJ. Shonn Greene took a big hit last week, Bilal Powell out with a shoulder injury. Miami's D has looked pretty good most of the season.NYG @ Cowboys. A couple leagues I'm in have NYG on waivers. They did ok last week against the 'skins. Dallas often good for a T.O. or two.

I wish I had those options on my waiver wire.Chargers by default.

 

[nb009]

Chargers or Browns? Ironically I have both and they play against each other.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

at least defense was spelled right this week.

I'm sticking w/ Az myself. Thinking about NE@StL or KC@Oak though.

that's actually the london game.I'm a pats fan, and I just couldn't pull the trigger on that.

there's a lot of tough choices this week, I think.

 

[solorca]

Dolphins @ NYJ. Shonn Greene took a big hit last week, Bilal Powell out with a shoulder injury. Miami's D has looked pretty good most of the season.

Hmm, I hadn't even considered the Dolphins...but I'm thinking they may be a good choice.

 

[Instinctive]

at least defense was spelled right this week.

I'm sticking w/ Az myself. Thinking about NE@StL or KC@Oak though.

that's actually the london game.I'm a pats fan, and I just couldn't pull the trigger on that.

there's a lot of tough choices this week, I think.

Do we have a history of the London game? Anecdotally, I feel like one was a defensive slugfest and one was a shootout. Purely going on (iffy) memory though.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

at least defense was spelled right this week.

I'm sticking w/ Az myself. Thinking about NE@StL or KC@Oak though.

that's actually the london game.I'm a pats fan, and I just couldn't pull the trigger on that.

there's a lot of tough choices this week, I think.

Do we have a history of the London game? Anecdotally, I feel like one was a defensive slugfest and one was a shootout. Purely going on (iffy) memory though.

only one I remember is pats/tb

 

[tameone]

I'm in a similar situation.

I've been running with Baltimore D, but with so many guys banged up, they've fallen off a cliff recently and I think it's time to move on.

My options are:

Arizona (fresh off waivers)

Miami

Jets

Cleveland

San Diego

Pittsburgh (off waivers the 27th)

I'm leaning towards Arizona although I think they will struggle as a team this week.. poor O themselves against a strong 9ers D, and facing a strong rush.

Miami is a strong second

Dodds ranked Cleveland, Zona, Jets as 5, 6, 7 this week in D/ST. Miami is 16, and only Cleveland made it to Rent a D this week.

thoughts?

 

[tsarc888]

add another vote for the Chargers.

-Trent Richardson could very well miss this game or at least be very limited.

-Brandon Weeden is still a rookie QB

-Chargers have coming off bye and had entire week to stew over that embarrassing Monday night choke job vs Denver, I expect them to come out focused and angry.

secondary vote for the Raiders

-Brady Quinn and Chiefs inept offense

 

[packersfan]

secondary vote for the Raiders-Brady Quinn and Chiefs inept offense

The Raiders were at home last week and had Blaine Gabbert and Chad Henne and no MJD and still did next-to-nothing defensively. I think Quinn sucks but if Oakland couldn't deliver against the Jags at home it's hard for me to trust them on the road, regardless of the opponent.Which probably means they'll score 3 defensive TDs this week.

 

[godgers12]

have both MINN and AZ rostered, have MINN starting as of right now, right choice?

 

[otb_lifer]

have both MINN and AZ rostered, have MINN starting as of right now, right choice?

Home team on Thursday night looks damn good to me. Bucs also left an awful lot out on the field Sunday. May be a very drained team on a very short week. If you also get ST in the deal, Harvin makes it a no brainer

 

[Insein]

Didn't see anyone mention it but I grabbed Detroit at home vs Seattle. Purely speculative but Detroit's defense looked decent on Monday night and Seattle has played very poorly away from home.

Seattle at home this year has 307 yds/gm and 21.7 pts/gm. On the road they have 283.5 yds/gm and 12.75 pts/gm. From strictly points, that sounds like a good play. They also have 9 turnovers on the road compared to only 2 at home. Sacks are pretty even has they average 2 taken per game on the road and 1.7 at home.

So the point is, Seattle's offense is not as good on the road. Could mean a solid week for Detroit and I'm sure they're available in almost all leagues. 39% owned in CBS and 37% in yahoo.

Plus going forward, they have Jax the next week. Could be a good 2 week play for no cost.

 

[Jimbo Slice]

Didn't see anyone mention it but I grabbed Detroit at home vs Seattle. Purely speculative but Detroit's defense looked decent on Monday night and Seattle has played very poorly away from home. Seattle at home this year has 307 yds/gm and 21.7 pts/gm. On the road they have 283.5 yds/gm and 12.75 pts/gm. From strictly points, that sounds like a good play. They also have 9 turnovers on the road compared to only 2 at home. Sacks are pretty even has they average 2 taken per game on the road and 1.7 at home. So the point is, Seattle's offense is not as good on the road. Could mean a solid week for Detroit and I'm sure they're available in almost all leagues. 39% owned in CBS and 37% in yahoo.Plus going forward, they have Jax the next week. Could be a good 2 week play for no cost.

Just dropped AZ for them this morning. :thumbs up: like you said, nice 2 week play

 

[solorca]

I ended up going with Miami. The have the Jets, Colts, Titans, and Bills over the next four weeks, so that's a pretty good run. Plus, they've been solid so far this year as it is.

My other considerations that I narrowed it down to were San Diego, Cleveland, and Detroit. I ended up trading away Arizona (I packaged them and Kyle Rudolph to upgrade to Jason Witten) to a team that's been terrible at getting defense production this year, so keeping them wasn't an option.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

secondary vote for the Raiders

-Brady Quinn and Chiefs inept offense

The Raiders were at home last week and had Blaine Gabbert and Chad Henne and no MJD and still did next-to-nothing defensively. I think Quinn sucks but if Oakland couldn't deliver against the Jags at home it's hard for me to trust them on the road, regardless of the opponent.Which probably means they'll score 3 defensive TDs this week.

Thank you for not trusting them. keep those good thoughts comin

 

[rickyg]

I'm going with Oakland again this week vs Brady Quinn. They failed me in week 7 but I think they show up in week 8

 

[packersfan]

secondary vote for the Raiders

-Brady Quinn and Chiefs inept offense

The Raiders were at home last week and had Blaine Gabbert and Chad Henne and no MJD and still did next-to-nothing defensively. I think Quinn sucks but if Oakland couldn't deliver against the Jags at home it's hard for me to trust them on the road, regardless of the opponent.Which probably means they'll score 3 defensive TDs this week.

Thank you for not trusting them. keep those good thoughts comin

I trusted them last week. They didn't kill me but I expected more. Oh well. Hope they work out for you this week. I do think they'll win the game. Brady Quinn is truly awful.

 

[Lordcoca]

The Bears owner in my league dropped the Dolphins and I picked them up. They've got a pretty good schedule the rest of the season, their only really tough games are the Pats at home and the 49'ers on the road in weeks 12 and 13.

 

[goldenchild]

Didn't see anyone mention it but I grabbed Detroit at home vs Seattle. Purely speculative but Detroit's defense looked decent on Monday night and Seattle has played very poorly away from home. Seattle at home this year has 307 yds/gm and 21.7 pts/gm. On the road they have 283.5 yds/gm and 12.75 pts/gm. From strictly points, that sounds like a good play. They also have 9 turnovers on the road compared to only 2 at home. Sacks are pretty even has they average 2 taken per game on the road and 1.7 at home. So the point is, Seattle's offense is not as good on the road. Could mean a solid week for Detroit and I'm sure they're available in almost all leagues. 39% owned in CBS and 37% in yahoo.Plus going forward, they have Jax the next week. Could be a good 2 week play for no cost.

No concerns regarding the short week for DET, while SEA's had 10 days to "rest"?

 

[packersfan]

Didn't see anyone mention it but I grabbed Detroit at home vs Seattle. Purely speculative but Detroit's defense looked decent on Monday night and Seattle has played very poorly away from home.

Seattle at home this year has 307 yds/gm and 21.7 pts/gm. On the road they have 283.5 yds/gm and 12.75 pts/gm. From strictly points, that sounds like a good play. They also have 9 turnovers on the road compared to only 2 at home. Sacks are pretty even has they average 2 taken per game on the road and 1.7 at home.

So the point is, Seattle's offense is not as good on the road. Could mean a solid week for Detroit and I'm sure they're available in almost all leagues. 39% owned in CBS and 37% in yahoo.

Plus going forward, they have Jax the next week. Could be a good 2 week play for no cost.

This is what currently has them ahead of the Jets on my list. The Jets' D has been far more productive due to the TDs they've scored but the next two weeks could be very good for the Detroit defense. Like you said, the Seahawks haven't been a good road team and the Jags are flat-out awful.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Didn't see anyone mention it but I grabbed Detroit at home vs Seattle. Purely speculative but Detroit's defense looked decent on Monday night and Seattle has played very poorly away from home. Seattle at home this year has 307 yds/gm and 21.7 pts/gm. On the road they have 283.5 yds/gm and 12.75 pts/gm. From strictly points, that sounds like a good play. They also have 9 turnovers on the road compared to only 2 at home. Sacks are pretty even has they average 2 taken per game on the road and 1.7 at home. So the point is, Seattle's offense is not as good on the road. Could mean a solid week for Detroit and I'm sure they're available in almost all leagues. 39% owned in CBS and 37% in yahoo.Plus going forward, they have Jax the next week. Could be a good 2 week play for no cost.

No concerns regarding the short week for DET, while SEA's had 10 days to "rest"?

I picked up DET as well, but that is concerning. It'd be more concerning however if DET plays on Thursday night instead of a Monday night.

 

[packersfan]

Didn't see anyone mention it but I grabbed Detroit at home vs Seattle. Purely speculative but Detroit's defense looked decent on Monday night and Seattle has played very poorly away from home. Seattle at home this year has 307 yds/gm and 21.7 pts/gm. On the road they have 283.5 yds/gm and 12.75 pts/gm. From strictly points, that sounds like a good play. They also have 9 turnovers on the road compared to only 2 at home. Sacks are pretty even has they average 2 taken per game on the road and 1.7 at home. So the point is, Seattle's offense is not as good on the road. Could mean a solid week for Detroit and I'm sure they're available in almost all leagues. 39% owned in CBS and 37% in yahoo.Plus going forward, they have Jax the next week. Could be a good 2 week play for no cost.

No concerns regarding the short week for DET, while SEA's had 10 days to "rest"?

I picked up DET as well, but that is concerning. It'd be more concerning however if DET plays on Thursday night instead of a Monday night.

I think that could be offset by the game being in Detroit and the Lions' pass rush being much better the last two games (8 sacks) - although Wilson's mobility could make it tough for them to mount a high sack total.

 

[az_prof]

I picked up Denver. How do they compare to some of the other teams being discussed in here?

 

[TexMex]

I'm going with OAK again this week.

Brady Quinn looked pretty awful last week but then again, OAK has looked awful every week.

 

[solorca]

I picked up Denver. How do they compare to some of the other teams being discussed in here?

Not very well, since they are playing the Saints this week. I would look at them as more of a long-term option than a waiver wire defense for this week.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

secondary vote for the Raiders-Brady Quinn and Chiefs inept offense

The Raiders were at home last week and had Blaine Gabbert and Chad Henne and no MJD and still did next-to-nothing defensively. I think Quinn sucks but if Oakland couldn't deliver against the Jags at home it's hard for me to trust them on the road, regardless of the opponent.Which probably means they'll score 3 defensive TDs this week.

Fwiw I just saw a stat that Oakland has WO. 5 in a row @ arrowhead.And Brady Quinn is starting.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

at least defense was spelled right this week.

I'm sticking w/ Az myself. Thinking about NE@StL or KC@Oak though.

that's actually the london game.I'm a pats fan, and I just couldn't pull the trigger on that.

there's a lot of tough choices this week, I think.

Do we have a history of the London game? Anecdotally, I feel like one was a defensive slugfest and one was a shootout. Purely going on (iffy) memory though.

What about the mia/nyg Swamp bowl over there. I dont think the whether is supposed to be that bad his time though...

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

NFL London 2007 - Dolphins v Giants

The NFL London game between the New York Giants and Miami Dolphins on Sunday October 27th 2007 saw history being made as it was the first ever regular season NFL game to be played outside of North America. Fans from the UK as well as other many other European countries descended on Wembley stadium to make up the 81,000 crowd and celebrate this historical event.

It was not just fans of the Giants and Dolphins who were present at Wembley; jerseys from all 32 NFL teams, as well as many College teams, NFL Europe and British American Football League players flying the flag for their own teams on home turf, could be seen enjoying the NFL game day experience in and around Wembley Stadium.

Despite the wet weather conditions in London, the spirits of the thousands NFL fans were not dampened, as a fantastic atmosphere began to build inside Wembley stadium. Live music from The Feeling preceded the teams being lead on to the field, England’s Rugby Union World Cup winning captain Martin Johnson (Miami Dolphins), and England and Chelsea captain John Terry (New York Giants), together with British Formula 1 driver, Lewis Hamilton lead both teams on to the field. The National Anthems of both Britain and the USA were observed with the greatest respect before it was time for what everyone was there for; Kick-off – which was greeted with the loudest roar of the day!

Giants Run to Narrow Victory

The game itself was affected by the pouring rain over Wembley Stadium, with conditions proving difficult for both offences. Despite early attempts, it soon became apparent that this was not going to be a game played through the air. New York Giants Quarterback Eli Manning could only manage a total of 22 pass attempts, completing eight for a total of just 59 yards. However, it was Manning who rushed for the opening touchdown of the game with a ten yard, first down rush in to the end zone with the first play after the two minute warning in the first half. This added to Lawrence Tynes first quarter field goal to put the Giants 10-0 up. Another Tynes field goal from 41 yards with just two second to go till half time put the Giants in to a commanding 13 point lead at the break.

With the emphasis on the running game, the Giants managed to keep good periods of possession, thanks largely to Running Back Brandon Jacobs who carried the ball 23 times for a total of 131 yards. However, the Giants efforts on the ground were not rewarded, failing to add any further points to their half time lead.

The Miami Dolphins came in to the game 0-8 and despite being more effective with their passing game at Wembley, struggled to score the points needed to beat the Giants. A Jay Feely field goal in the third quarter and a first career touch down for Dolphins Wide Receiver Ted Ginn was the only scores that Miami could put on the board. Despite the low score and adverse weather conditions, this game was still enjoyable because of the occasion. The London crowd, for many of whom, this was the first taste of pro football, appeared to thoroughly enjoy themselves. The majority will no doubt be eager to head back to Wembley for NFL London 2008, when the New Orleans Saints take on the San Diego Chargers in what should (weather permitting) be a fantastic game.

 

[Insein]

Didn't see anyone mention it but I grabbed Detroit at home vs Seattle. Purely speculative but Detroit's defense looked decent on Monday night and Seattle has played very poorly away from home. Seattle at home this year has 307 yds/gm and 21.7 pts/gm. On the road they have 283.5 yds/gm and 12.75 pts/gm. From strictly points, that sounds like a good play. They also have 9 turnovers on the road compared to only 2 at home. Sacks are pretty even has they average 2 taken per game on the road and 1.7 at home. So the point is, Seattle's offense is not as good on the road. Could mean a solid week for Detroit and I'm sure they're available in almost all leagues. 39% owned in CBS and 37% in yahoo.Plus going forward, they have Jax the next week. Could be a good 2 week play for no cost.

No concerns regarding the short week for DET, while SEA's had 10 days to "rest"?

I picked up DET as well, but that is concerning. It'd be more concerning however if DET plays on Thursday night instead of a Monday night.

I think that could be offset by the game being in Detroit and the Lions' pass rush being much better the last two games (8 sacks) - although Wilson's mobility could make it tough for them to mount a high sack total.

Seattle doesn't let up many sacks. High was 3 and low was 1. They have let up a sack in every game though. The key for me is the point total. Keeping them to less than 13 points usually results in a good day for most league's scoring system.

 

[Insein]

I picked up Denver. How do they compare to some of the other teams being discussed in here?

They're playing the Saints. Bad matchup this week. They have some favorable matchups for the remainder of the season but nothing outstanding. To me it's not a good streaming Defense.

 

[packersfan]

Seattle doesn't let up many sacks. High was 3 and low was 1. They have let up a sack in every game though. The key for me is the point total. Keeping them to less than 13 points usually results in a good day for most league's scoring system.

Agree with all that. Wilson's mobile and very smart in the pocket. He isn't an easy guy to take down for sacks. However, he has not played well on the road. He's thrown all 7 of his INTs on the road with only 2 TDs. I'm not expecting a huge sack total for the Lions although it is encouraging their pass rush has looked better the last two games and especially against the Bears. I think the primary reason to go after the Lions is because their next two weeks look promising. As far as this week, I like them because the Seahawks don't score a lot of points on the road and Wilson could throw a pick or two.

 

[UnderDawgs]

Minnesota (VS TB)

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Seattle doesn't let up many sacks. High was 3 and low was 1. They have let up a sack in every game though. The key for me is the point total. Keeping them to less than 13 points usually results in a good day for most league's scoring system.

Say what???

 

[Insein]

Seattle doesn't let up many sacks. High was 3 and low was 1. They have let up a sack in every game though. The key for me is the point total. Keeping them to less than 13 points usually results in a good day for most league's scoring system.

Say what???

They don't let up many per game. They average 2. So don't expect them to give up 6 all of a sudden. That was what I meant. They have let up at least 1 sack in every game though.

 

[kenzen]

Hey everyone. I am in a 14 team league and besides the standard DEF point scoring for little or no points scored, pts for INT, Fumbles, sack etc, we get DEF POINTS awarded for YARDAGE ON KICK OFF RETURNS AND PUNTS RETURNED.

1.25 pts per 10 yards, so a 40 yard return is worh 6 fantasy points, a 100 yard return for a TD is worth 18.5 pts ! I know, kind of skewed.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ? On one hand a team that does not let a team score gets rewarded for less actual points scored, but the Cleveland Browns have Joe Cribbs and if Cleveland gives up 4 TD's that gives the the Defense (Joe Cribbs) the chance to return 5 kickoffs for big yardage. If he averages 20 yards a return that is 12.5 fantasy points. But a team D that stops the O can get punted to alot. Most of the time kickoff returns are longer than punt returns.

Right now I have MINNESOTA with Percy Harvin. I get sacks and Percy, but CLEVELAND is available against the CHARGERS. The other factor is a kicker that kicks it out of the end zone so there are no returns.

Thoughts...MINNESOTA, CLEVELAND, MIAMI............last week gor 23 fantasy points from MINNESOTA and the week after Tampoon Bay they have Seattle...

 

[solorca]

If you get points for return yardage, stick with Minnesota. They are the better defense anyway, with a great matchup...but that added bonus just makes it even better.

 

[kenzen]

Hey everyone. I am in a 14 team league and besides the standard DEF point scoring for little or no points scored, pts for INT, Fumbles, sack etc, we get DEF POINTS awarded for YARDAGE ON KICK OFF RETURNS AND PUNTS RETURNED. 1.25 pts per 10 yards, so a 40 yard return is worh 6 fantasy points, a 100 yard return for a TD is worth 18.5 pts ! I know, kind of skewed.WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ? On one hand a team that does not let a team score gets rewarded for less actual points scored, but the Cleveland Browns have Joe Cribbs and if Cleveland gives up 4 TD's that gives the the Defense (Joe Cribbs) the chance to return 5 kickoffs for big yardage. If he averages 20 yards a return that is 12.5 fantasy points. But a team D that stops the O can get punted to alot. Most of the time kickoff returns are longer than punt returns.Right now I have MINNESOTA with Percy Harvin. I get sacks and Percy, but CLEVELAND is available against the CHARGERS. The other factor is a kicker that kicks it out of the end zone so there are no returns.Thoughts...MINNESOTA, CLEVELAND, MIAMI............last week got 23 fantasy points from MINNESOTA and the week after Tampoon Bay they have Seattle...

If you get points for return yardage, stick with Minnesota. They are the better defense anyway, with a great matchup...but that added bonus just makes it even better.

Yes. Minnesota gets you the rush, the sacks and if they give up points Harvin gets the running yardage.

 

[MacAvery]

Didn't see anyone mention it but I grabbed Detroit at home vs Seattle. Purely speculative but Detroit's defense looked decent on Monday night and Seattle has played very poorly away from home. Seattle at home this year has 307 yds/gm and 21.7 pts/gm. On the road they have 283.5 yds/gm and 12.75 pts/gm. From strictly points, that sounds like a good play. They also have 9 turnovers on the road compared to only 2 at home. Sacks are pretty even has they average 2 taken per game on the road and 1.7 at home. So the point is, Seattle's offense is not as good on the road. Could mean a solid week for Detroit and I'm sure they're available in almost all leagues. 39% owned in CBS and 37% in yahoo.Plus going forward, they have Jax the next week. Could be a good 2 week play for no cost.

No concerns regarding the short week for DET, while SEA's had 10 days to "rest"?

I picked up DET as well, but that is concerning. It'd be more concerning however if DET plays on Thursday night instead of a Monday night.

I think that could be offset by the game being in Detroit and the Lions' pass rush being much better the last two games (8 sacks) - although Wilson's mobility could make it tough for them to mount a high sack total.

Detroit's last 2 games againsthilly - 17 sacks allowedChicago - 19 sacks allowedThis week:Seattle - 14 sacks allowed

 

[elmanx]

I went with KC because

1. They're coming off a bye

2. Oak looks terrible

3. They're much better at home

4. Their last two efforts have been very good (in my scoring sys)

 

[Casting Couch]

secondary vote for the Raiders-Brady Quinn and Chiefs inept offense

The Raiders were at home last week and had Blaine Gabbert and Chad Henne and no MJD and still did next-to-nothing defensively. I think Quinn sucks but if Oakland couldn't deliver against the Jags at home it's hard for me to trust them on the road, regardless of the opponent.Which probably means they'll score 3 defensive TDs this week.

Fwiw I just saw a stat that Oakland has WO. 5 in a row @ arrowhead.And Brady Quinn is starting.

KC ground game is very solid.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

secondary vote for the Raiders-Brady Quinn and Chiefs inept offense

The Raiders were at home last week and had Blaine Gabbert and Chad Henne and no MJD and still did next-to-nothing defensively. I think Quinn sucks but if Oakland couldn't deliver against the Jags at home it's hard for me to trust them on the road, regardless of the opponent.Which probably means they'll score 3 defensive TDs this week.

Fwiw I just saw a stat that Oakland has WO. 5 in a row @ arrowhead.And Brady Quinn is starting.

KC ground game is very solid.

And the Raiders have allowed 4 of their 6 opponents this year to 54 yards rushing total or less. They held Atlanta and Jacksonville to less than 100 yards combined the last two weeks. HTH

 

[donkshow]

Torn between Raiders vs. KC and Chargers vs. CLE. Or even Chiefs vs. OAK

So many mediocre options.