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Week 8 who should I start thread **OFFICIAL** (1 Viewer)

Chaka

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As always I am keeping a running total of my "correct" calls of head-2-head questions (I am not going to try and track accuracy when picking from larger sets "choose 2 of these 5" type questions) and I am comparing my guesses with a random coin flip just for fun. I use my league's scoring system (PPR, 15 yards rush/receiving = 1 point, 50 yards passing = 1 point, 4 pts/pass TD, 6 pts/rush TD, with some minor yardage bonuses for TD length).

Last was pretty solid for both me and the coin toss. In head-2-head calls I went 16-10-3, and the coin toss, still clearly cheating, went 15-11-3 

On the season I am 84-69-11 in my head-2-head calls and the coin toss is 75-78-11 

 
I have two very tough calls this week.

Zack Moss v Miami

Javonte Williams v WFT

Right now I have Moss in my lineup

 
My second tough call is at WR/TE (which are a combined position in my league)

Who do I bench?

Stefon Diggs v Mia

AJ Brown @ Indy

Mike Williams v NE

Kyle Pitts v Car

This is a super-flex league and my QBs are Josh Allen & Justin Herbert, that influences my decisions YMMV.

Right now I have Diggs, AJ & Williams in my lineup. 

 
Chaka said:
I have two very tough calls this week.

Zack Moss v Miami

Javonte Williams v WFT

Right now I have Moss in my lineup


I picked up Moss as well but am wavering on starting him or picking up either Perine or Pollard. FBG primer says start Moss and flex Pollard but RB2 floors are so low it's hard to gamble on them. I like Moss against this Dolphins defense and the potential game plan the Bills will have. 

 
I picked up Moss as well but am wavering on starting him or picking up either Perine or Pollard. FBG primer says start Moss and flex Pollard but RB2 floors are so low it's hard to gamble on them. I like Moss against this Dolphins defense and the potential game plan the Bills will have. 
Minnesota can be run on and Pollard is on pace for over 1,000 yards and since week 2 has had 16, 12, 10, 18 & 13 opportunities. But he's only had one very good fantasy game and one where he was probably replacement level.  I think a lot depends on Dak's status this week, he should play so the offense should hum. But the game is on the road and Zeke is the clear short yardage back in this offense.

Perine has had a couple very good games no doubt and he has a great matchup at the Jets. He may be in line for some real action.  It's hard to get over how little he was used in the first four weeks of the season though.  But this is definitely an opportunity for him.

Moss has also gotten consistent usage since his return in week 2 with 12, 16, 15, 15 & 12 opportunities. He also appears to be the preferred short yardage option in this offense.  Factor in a very weaker opponent and it being a home game and it just makes sense to roll the dice with Moss.

Moss>Perine>Pollard

 
Chaka said:
My second tough call is at WR/TE (which are a combined position in my league)

Who do I bench?

Stefon Diggs v Mia

AJ Brown @ Indy

Mike Williams v NE

Kyle Pitts v Car

This is a super-flex league and my QBs are Josh Allen & Justin Herbert, that influences my decisions YMMV.

Right now I have Diggs, AJ & Williams in my lineup. 
Stick with this.  Tough to sit Pitts, but the CAR-ATL game is likely not going to be a high scoring game.

 
Just wanted to say,  Chaka 2021 > Bloom 2020 / 2019 / 2018 ...

Standard:

Gibson @ Den

J Williams vs Pi

Gainswell @ Det

Claypool @ Cle

A Collins vs Jax

Pick 2 or rank.

Thx again!

Honorable mention to fightingillini!

 
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Standard scoring, need 2 from the following

C.Ridley vs Panthers - haven't considered benching him yet but his usage is...scary, seems to be third or 4th option now behind Pitts and Gage even

C.Patterson vs Panthers - Can't seem to find it in me to bench him either, now getting goalline work as well

D.Swift vs Eagles - always goes off on my bench (been starting Zeke and Henderson most weeks instead), puts up duds when I use him, find him hard to trust

J.Jeudy vs WFT - assuming he even plays of course, good matchup

M.Gordon vs WFT - not really seriously considering him but matchup is pretty good 

 
Chaka said:
I have two very tough calls this week.

Zack Moss v Miami

Javonte Williams v WFT

Right now I have Moss in my lineup


I would also go with Moss, similar timeshare with Singletary as there is in Denver backfield but just a gut call, matchup is great

 
1/2 PPR.....pt per 25 yds passing, 4 pts per TD pass.  Superflex league.

Pick 2 RBs

Mixon at NYJ

Swift vs PHI

Henderson at HOU

For the RB you don't pick, would you start him in the flex or Sam Darnold (I have Carr on Bye, and Kyler is in at one QB spot)

 
Need two of these for flex in Standard:

Toney@KC

T. Higgins @Jets.

H. Henry @LAC (I have Pitts at TE now). Could slide Pitts to flex and put Henry at TE ?

T. Patrick vs WFT

My other starters are: Ridley and McLaurin as WR1 and WR2; A. Jones at RB1

 
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Standard scoring, need 2 from the following

C.Ridley vs Panthers - haven't considered benching him yet but his usage is...scary, seems to be third or 4th option now behind Pitts and Gage even

C.Patterson vs Panthers - Can't seem to find it in me to bench him either, now getting goalline work as well

D.Swift vs Eagles - always goes off on my bench (been starting Zeke and Henderson most weeks instead), puts up duds when I use him, find him hard to trust

J.Jeudy vs WFT - assuming he even plays of course, good matchup

M.Gordon vs WFT - not really seriously considering him but matchup is pretty good 
Swift and Patterson, but it's hard to bench Ridley.  Not sure who you have at WR to consider sitting Ridley.

 
1/2 PPR.....pt per 25 yds passing, 4 pts per TD pass.  Superflex league.

Pick 2 RBs


Mixon


at NYJ


Swift


vs PHI


Henderson


at HOU

For the RB you don't pick, would you start him in the flex or


Sam Darnold


(I have


Carr


on Bye, and Kyler is in at one QB spot)
Safest: Mixon and Swift

Always start your QBs

 
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Chaka said:
I have two very tough calls this week.

Zack Moss v Miami

Javonte Williams v WFT

Right now I have Moss in my lineup


Agree with Moss.  Much more likely to get 2nd half carries as Buffalo works on closing out the game with a big lead.

 
Chaka said:
I have two very tough calls this week.

Zack Moss v Miami

Javonte Williams v WFT

Right now I have Moss in my lineup


I like moss to score a td and I would lean there

 
Just wanted to say,  Chaka 2021 > Bloom 2020 / 2019 / 2018 ...

Standard:

Gibson @ Den

J Williams vs Pi

Gainswell @ Det

Claypool @ Cle

Pick 2 or rank.

Thx again!

Honorable mention to fightingillini!


I like Gainswell and Gibson of that list.  Williams is a close 3rd

 
Just wanted to say,  Chaka 2021 > Bloom 2020 / 2019 / 2018 ...

Standard:

Gibson @ Den

J Williams vs Pi

Gainswell @ Det

Claypool @ Cle

Pick 2 or rank.

Thx again!

Honorable mention to fightingillini!
Flattery will get you everywhere.

It must be frustrating to be a Gibson owner but I don't think you can bench him. Denver is allegedly 9th against the run but they have absolutely given up fantasy points to lead RBs over the last three games. Najeh, Jacobs & Drake then D'Ernest. The defense is banged up too. Denver could certainly shut down a banged up Gibson but I think the risk/reward sides with Gibson.

I know everyone thinks this is Gainwell's week, and it darn well should be but I simply do not trust Philly RBs. Sanders went down and Scott, who had zero rushes & two targets all season, got 9 opportunities. I would expect Gainwell, who had been part of the game plan all week to have absorbed all those touches. But Scott who likely received limited practice reps all week and wasn't part of the game plan suddenly became relevant. I'm probably wrong and Gainwell gets 20 opportunities this week but I just can't trust it.

Claypool seems like the best option to me. His targets are streaky for sure but his floor is probably 6 and his ceiling is 10-12 (he had a 15 target game vs Cinci). Cleveland has the #7 pass defense allegedly but you wouldn't know it looking at the WRs who have put up solid to huge games against them (Tyreek, Kelce, Cooks, Justin Jefferson, Mike Williams, Keenan, Kirk, Hopkins & Green). 

Gibson>Claypool>Gainwell>Williams

 
Standard scoring, need 2 from the following

C.Ridley vs Panthers - haven't considered benching him yet but his usage is...scary, seems to be third or 4th option now behind Pitts and Gage even

C.Patterson vs Panthers - Can't seem to find it in me to bench him either, now getting goalline work as well

D.Swift vs Eagles - always goes off on my bench (been starting Zeke and Henderson most weeks instead), puts up duds when I use him, find him hard to trust

J.Jeudy vs WFT - assuming he even plays of course, good matchup

M.Gordon vs WFT - not really seriously considering him but matchup is pretty good 
This is really a choice between Ridley, Patterson & Swift.

I don't think you can bench Swift, he's getting the volume and he's straight up balling. The only knock is that it's not PPR scoring. But he has a TD in 5 of 7 games and this is one of Detroit's few truly winnable games.

Ridley has been a huge disappointment but let's not go crazy. He's not 4th fiddle to anyone. Not to Pitts, not to Cordarrelle and certainly not to Gage. He has 8 more targets than Pitts despite playing one less game. Cordarrelle is a RB now, full time. Gage salvaged a stinker with one big play. My gut tells me Ridley is going to have a correction. Carolina is a tough matchup but they're kinda reeling ATM and plenty of WRs have had good fantasy games against them. Only Zeke, Dalvin and surprisingly Booker, sort of,have had good fantasy games at the RB spot.

So how can one possibly bench Cordarrelle? I'm not sure. I probably would this week but go with your gut.

Swift>Ridley>Cordarrelle

 
1/2 PPR.....pt per 25 yds passing, 4 pts per TD pass.  Superflex league.

Pick 2 RBs

Mixon at NYJ

Swift vs PHI

Henderson at HOU

For the RB you don't pick, would you start him in the flex or Sam Darnold (I have Carr on Bye, and Kyler is in at one QB spot)
Honestly you can pick any two of the RBs and it would be a good call. The only question is what to do with Darnold.

I hate benching QBs in super-flex but Darnold has really regressed. Maybe regression isn't the right term so much as a recognition that all those rushing TDs masked fairly mediocre fantasy passing numbers. The last three games have been downright ugly. The Falcons seem like they can be had in the passing game, and they can, they can also put some pressure on other teams to score. But they do seem to be improving.

Yeah tough call sort of but I think a third RB, with a super-plus matchup isn't a bad option over Darnold ATM. Biggest concern is the Rams or Bengals roll their opponents so bad it becomes a Michel/Perine game.

Mixon/Swift>Henderson>Darnold

 
Need two of these for flex in Standard:

Toney@KC

T. Higgins @Jets.

H. Henry @LAC (I have Pitts at TE now). Could slide Pitts to flex and put Henry at TE ?

T. Patrick vs WFT

My other starters are: Ridley and McLaurin as WR1 and WR2; A. Jones at RB1
Higgins for sure IMO.

I like Patrick but Jeudy is back this week so...that complicates things.

Henry has been incredibly efficient and it is a revenge game of sorts.

I love Toney and the matchup but we're not even certain he'll play. If he does then for how long? Unless you need a desperation upside play I wouldn't risk it, particularly if you don't have an alternative if he's a late scratch in a Monday night game. 

I think Henry is the call for me but it's close.

Higgins>>Henry>Patrick>Toney

 
I asked this in defense thread and going to double check here. --not much good on waivers and Ravens on bye. --

I picked up Bears but see Mack is out, so less pressure on QB

What about Atlanta vs Carolina? or KC at home Monday night?  They have to be pissed off. -- 

Others available:

Panthers @ Atlanta and Titans @ Indy

 
On the heels of acquiring Robert Woods, I now find myself with a dilemma:

Start 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 O-FLX

Which 6 of these 7:

Mixon, Henderson, Chubba, Ridley, Higgins, DJMoore, Woods

Also I have Stafford, which shouldn’t matter but maybe it does. 

 
I asked this in defense thread and going to double check here. --not much good on waivers and Ravens on bye. --

I picked up Bears but see Mack is out, so less pressure on QB

What about Atlanta vs Carolina? or KC at home Monday night?  They have to be pissed off. -- 

Others available:

Panthers @ Atlanta and Titans @ Indy
ATL offense seems to be really clicking right now, so I wouldn’t want CAR. And ATL defense is really not great, so even with CAR OL being trash & Darnold throwing picks like a house giving out Halloween candy, I can’t see starting ARL either.

CHI seems like your best bet, even without Mack. 

 
Standard scoring, need 2 from the following

C.Ridley vs Panthers - haven't considered benching him yet but his usage is...scary, seems to be third or 4th option now behind Pitts and Gage even

C.Patterson vs Panthers - Can't seem to find it in me to bench him either, now getting goalline work as well

D.Swift vs Eagles - always goes off on my bench (been starting Zeke and Henderson most weeks instead), puts up duds when I use him, find him hard to trust

J.Jeudy vs WFT - assuming he even plays of course, good matchup

M.Gordon vs WFT - not really seriously considering him but matchup is pretty good 
I'd say Swift and Patterson. Until Ridley shows something I feel better with the other 2.

 
1/2 PPR.....pt per 25 yds passing, 4 pts per TD pass.  Superflex league.

Pick 2 RBs

Mixon at NYJ

Swift vs PHI

Henderson at HOU

For the RB you don't pick, would you start him in the flex or Sam Darnold (I have Carr on Bye, and Kyler is in at one QB spot)
Swift and Henderson for sure. Mixon seems to be splitting touches now. He's slipping into RB2 territory while those other guys are RB1s. For Superflex I'd stick with the QB especially vs Atl. So basically I'm benching Mixon. 

 
I asked this in defense thread and going to double check here. --not much good on waivers and Ravens on bye. --

I picked up Bears but see Mack is out, so less pressure on QB

What about Atlanta vs Carolina? or KC at home Monday night?  They have to be pissed off. -- 

Others available:

Panthers @ Atlanta and Titans @ Indy
I like Panthers here. They should be getting Shaq Thompson back and who knows if Gilmore plays. Ryan's always good for sacks and turnovers. 

 
Khalil Herbert or Damien Harris .5 PPR


I got both and am starting both. I think both do well but Harris faces one of the weakest run Ds and has a lock on his carries. He's proven ball carrier over several games and has increasingly more yardage per carry in each of the last 4 games.

There is a scenario where Herbert can potentially cede carries to Damien Williams despite all calls that he's the man after last week. Could be lack of rational coaching by Bears, playing hot hand, or maybe Damien wasn't 100% last week so they limited him. There is also the possibility that the bears suck worse than last week and Herbert can't repeat his performance of last week this week for some reason. It is one of the tougher run Ds.

Conventional wisdom says you play the matchup, go for the proven guy with no competition, and if Herbert plays out of his mind as is actually a must start stud ROS regardless of matchup then you know it next week and can start him confidently. But I wouldn't feel bad about starting Harris at all even if that happened.

 
On the heels of acquiring Robert Woods, I now find myself with a dilemma:

Start 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 O-FLX

Which 6 of these 7:

Mixon, Henderson, Chubba, Ridley, Higgins, DJMoore, Woods

Also I have Stafford, which shouldn’t matter but maybe it does. 
This is a crapshoot because they are all good players. I say it comes down to benching Higgins or Woods. I'd probably bench Higgins for now as despite targets he hasn't done much with them and I don't see a lot of passing volume in this one.

 
On the heels of acquiring Robert Woods, I now find myself with a dilemma:

Start 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 O-FLX

Which 6 of these 7:

Mixon, Henderson, Chubba, Ridley, Higgins, DJMoore, Woods

Also I have Stafford, which shouldn’t matter but maybe it does. 
6 out of 7 man, that's a lot.

Easy, no question, always start studs: 2 RB - Mixon / Henderson

Start Chubba because of volume and consistency of RBs over WRs. Not sure of your format but I don't think your WRs are clearly better flex as they have had dud games.

Start Moore because he's been hottest all year, clear top target even though Darnold sucked last game he still got 70 yards so thats a good floor. 

Out of woods / ridley / higgins, woods has best matchup and he has been playable last 3 weeks so I'd go with him.

Then Ridley / Higgins is more or less similar. Both underperforming with missed games against top 10 worst for WR FP allowed. Pick Ridley because he's your stud and hope for regression to the mean. The scenario where Bengals can just run it over NJ is real and he may not be a safe bet for 15 targets this week and is second fiddle to chase.

 

 
I asked this in defense thread and going to double check here. --not much good on waivers and Ravens on bye. --

I picked up Bears but see Mack is out, so less pressure on QB

What about Atlanta vs Carolina? or KC at home Monday night?  They have to be pissed off. -- 

Others available:

Panthers @ Atlanta and Titans @ Indy
I forget who but someone mentioned in another thread that he views kickers essentially as random number generators. I agree and I feel similarly about defenses.

You have some interesting options but it's ultimately a crap shoot.

I like the Bears v Niners at home, I really do, but more than Mack being out I would be concerned about Fields being able to sustain the offense and give the defense some rest. I think he can. And the Bears are a talented D even without Mack.

Of the others I also kind of believe the Chiefs are due for a correction against a likely overmatched opponent at home.

Atlanta is interesting but I have little faith after they made Tua look like Tarkenton.

Carolina has the talent but they're reeling and you have to wonder at what point the defense starts pointing fingers at the offense. Anyone know the status of Gilmore?

I want nothing to do with predicting the Indy v Tenn game. Two schizophrenic teams.

Chi>KC

I think Chi a safer choice, they have 29 combined sacks & turnovers while the Chiefs have 15. Maybe the loss of Mack evens that out a little bit not that big of a gap.

But, again, total crap shoot.

 
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On the heels of acquiring Robert Woods, I now find myself with a dilemma:

Start 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 O-FLX

Which 6 of these 7:

Mixon, Henderson, Chubba, Ridley, Higgins, DJMoore, Woods

Also I have Stafford, which shouldn’t matter but maybe it does. 
I think this is pretty clearly a decision between Panthers.

With the possible exception of Henderson, Hubbard is the least talented of the bunch. Even if he isn't Henderson has a much clearer path to success.

At this point it is impossible to have faith in the Panthers offense but I know Moore is going to get around 10 targets pretty much no matter what. Hubbard should get close to 16 opportunities before game flow dictates where he finishes.

Hubbard probably has a slightly higher floor but he hasn't demonstrated the big game ability of Moore.

Personally I lean talent > opportunity. I just wish the talent wasn't so dependent on Sam Darnold.

Moore by a hair over Chubba

I could easily flip/flop on this a couple times.

 
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Khalil Herbert or Damien Harris .5 PPR
Oooooohhh this one is interesting.

I like Harris. It seems like the coaching pretty clearly favors him and he got 14 opportunities before leaving early in a close game @ Houston followed by 19 in a track meet v the Cowboys followed by 16 in a rout of the Jets.

That tells me that his usage is kind of game script independent.

We might be able to say the same about Herbert but it would be nice to have a shade more info on how he will be deployed with Williams in the lineup. But 18, 22 & 23 opportunities is definitely encouraging.

But at this point the smart move is Harris >>Herbert IMO.

 
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I think this is pretty clearly a decision between Panthers.

With the possible exception of Henderson, Hubbard is the least talented of the bunch. Even if he isn't Henderson has a much clearer path to success.

At this point it is impossible to have faith in the Panthers offense but I know Moore is going to get around 10 targets pretty much no matter what. Hubbard should get close to 16 opportunities before game flow dictates where he finishes.

Hubbard probably has a slightly higher floor but he hasn't demonstrated the big game ability of Moore.

Personally I lean talent > opportunity. I just wish the talent wasn't so dependent on Sam Darnold.

Moore by a hair over Chubba

I could easily flip/flop on this a couple times.
I was leaning Hubbard despite the good matchup - because as you said, he has the least talent. ATL defense sucks, and Darnold has actually been very good against weaker defenses with minimal pass rush, so I can’t see bending Moore. 

Apprecciate the insight my friend. 

 
This is a crapshoot because they are all good players. I say it comes down to benching Higgins or Woods. I'd probably bench Higgins for now as despite targets he hasn't done much with them and I don't see a lot of passing volume in this one.
I was leaning Chubba, but Higgins was the other one I was considering. 

I can’t help but feel like a breakout is coming for Higgins & Ridley.

Houston has actually been tough against the pass, so that’s creating some hesitation for me - but it’s hard to bench my shiny new toy. 

 
Assuming he plays... a big assumption at this point: (standard league, non ppr)

Toney in a MNF smash spot (vs KC) OR Manny Sanders going against the inept Phins D. 

Also having Waller bye week blues (or is that just the “why did I burn a 2nd rounder on Waller” blues?) : 

Tonyan (vs ARI) or CJ Uzomah (vs NYJ)

 
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Chaka said:
I have two very tough calls this week.

Zack Moss v Miami

Javonte Williams v WFT

Right now I have Moss in my lineup
I like Moss here for sure. Bills should make short work of the Phins with plenty of goal line and mop up work for Moss. Remember when Tua got embarrassed by their JV squad in a must win for Miami to make the playoffs last year? This time the Bills actually have something to play for, their D is even more ferocious this year, and the skittish Tua has probably been in his own head all week worrying about the Watson to Miami rumors. I think this is going to bloodbath.

My Skins/WFT have regained their rightful place among the league’s laughingstocks this year, but their horrible defense actually showed a little fight last week vs Rodgers before eventually getting rolled. It’s a low bar, but they’ve at least attempted to put up some fight against Mahomes and Rodgers the last two weeks. A gimpy Teddy Two Gloves might find himself in more trouble than he’s expecting this week, so I could see this game as a tight one all around. I’d expect the Broncos to pick on our terrible secondary over the ground game this week.

 
Need two of these for flex in Standard:

Toney@KC

T. Higgins @Jets.

H. Henry @LAC (I have Pitts at TE now). Could slide Pitts to flex and put Henry at TE ?

T. Patrick vs WFT

My other starters are: Ridley and McLaurin as WR1 and WR2; A. Jones at RB1
I’m debating a Toney call this week myself (vs Manny Sanders). It’s all about health with him as I’m assuming the Giants wouldn’t roll him out there again too early this time around (then again, they are pretty incompetent). But assuming he gets the green light health wise, I like Toney and then Higgins here. 

Patrick would be at the bottom of my list now that Jeudy is back, and I like the other two WR options over Henry.

 
On the heels of acquiring Robert Woods, I now find myself with a dilemma:

Start 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 O-FLX

Which 6 of these 7:

Mixon, Henderson, Chubba, Ridley, Higgins, DJMoore, Woods

Also I have Stafford, which shouldn’t matter but maybe it does. 
This is a tough one. At first glance I would say one of the two Panthers. With Darnold in the full Halloween spirit and back to seeing ghosts 👻 that whole offense seems like a stay away if you have better options right now. Even though he’s less dependent on Darnold delivering him the ball, Chuba probably gets the pine from me just because he is the least talented. 

But I could also possibly see an argument for Higgins as well as that game flow will get ugly quick versus the Jets. Seems like a big Mixon and Perine day. Still though, the targets show they are clearly trying to get Higgins going, and the Jets are as “get right” as you can get, so I’d probably still play him over Chuba.

 
This is a tough one. At first glance I would say one of the two Panthers. With Darnold in the full Halloween spirit and back to seeing ghosts 👻 that whole offense seems like a stay away if you have better options right now. Even though he’s less dependent on Darnold delivering him the ball, Chuba probably gets the pine from me just because he is the least talented. 

But I could also possibly see an argument for Higgins as well as that game flow will get ugly quick versus the Jets. Seems like a big Mixon and Perine day. Still though, the targets show they are clearly trying to get Higgins going, and the Jets are as “get right” as you can get, so I’d probably still play him over Chuba.
That’s my coin flip for sure. It’s a good opponent, too. Right now I’m leaning Higgins, but starting 2 Panthers is a scary prospect. 

 

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