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Weekly Waiver Wire Pick Ups - **CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK** Week 17 starts on Page 30 (3 Viewers)

The data is pretty clear.  Three healthy scratches in nine games (in favor of LeVeon Bell) and fewer opportunities on the season than two other street free agents.

Harbaugh doesn't hate him but he's not doing his job as well as three other street free agents pulled off the scrap heap.
Between Murray, Freeman, and Williams, who has the best yards per carry?
Between Murray, Freeman, and Williams, who has the best yards per reception?
Between Murray, Freeman, and Williams, who has the best catch percentage?

The answers to the above 3 questions ARE data.

 
Help reality check this for me: Between Foreman and Jeff Wilson, there's no reason not to go with Foreman, right? I think the main source of my uncertainty is that I panic-used a waiver priority on Wilson because I was scared that, with both Kamara and Mitchell potentially sitting, I could be down to one starting RB (Robinson, who is also banged up). I figured having Wilson at least made sure I was covered this week. But with Mitchell trending toward playing, McNichols still in the protocol, and a great matchup for Tenn, it seems like Foreman is the better option for both this week and ROS.

 
Help reality check this for me: Between Foreman and Jeff Wilson, there's no reason not to go with Foreman, right? I think the main source of my uncertainty is that I panic-used a waiver priority on Wilson because I was scared that, with both Kamara and Mitchell potentially sitting, I could be down to one starting RB (Robinson, who is also banged up). I figured having Wilson at least made sure I was covered this week. But with Mitchell trending toward playing, McNichols still in the protocol, and a great matchup for Tenn, it seems like Foreman is the better option for both this week and ROS.
Yep, Foreman is the easy pick. Jags run D is pretty decent, and Wilson is uninspiring at best. Even if Mitchell is out I rank Foreman higher for sure. 

 
Yep, Foreman is the easy pick. Jags run D is pretty decent, and Wilson is uninspiring at best. Even if Mitchell is out I rank Foreman higher for sure. 
Thanks. I realized I was falling for the sunk-cost fallacy, where I didn't want to drop a guy I had just burned a waiver priority on. But I would have used a claim regardless, and the goal should be to end up with the best RB available. 

 
TheWinz said:
Between Murray, Freeman, and Williams, who has the best yards per carry?
Between Murray, Freeman, and Williams, who has the best yards per reception?
Between Murray, Freeman, and Williams, who has the best catch percentage?

The answers to the above 3 questions ARE data.
Pretty sure Harbaugh is aware of that data, as the other data pretty clearly demonstrates.

 
Pretty sure Harbaugh is aware of that data, as the other data pretty clearly demonstrates.
All you've said was he's been healthy-scratched and Harbaugh has determined he isn't doing his job well.

- Is leading all RB's in yards per carry considered not doing your job well?
- Is leading all RB's in yards per catch considered not doing your job well?
- Is leading all RB's in catch percentage considered not doing your job well?

Rather than just say he isn't doing well, do you care to say WHAT he isn't doing well?  Have you watched him play?

 
All you've said was he's been healthy-scratched and Harbaugh has determined he isn't doing his job well.

- Is leading all RB's in yards per carry considered not doing your job well?
- Is leading all RB's in yards per catch considered not doing your job well?
- Is leading all RB's in catch percentage considered not doing your job well?

Rather than just say he isn't doing well, do you care to say WHAT he isn't doing well?  Have you watched him play?
Why is that important when we are discussing the simple fact that his head coach has determined that he is third in the pecking order?

If my opinion mattered I'd be getting paid for it.

He has a fine YPC & YPR but that isn't translating to increased utilization.

Harbaugh is one of the best can aches in the league, if his actions say there is something wrong with Ty'son then I'm good with accepting that.

Maybe his problem, whatever it is, is easily fixed in season and he takes over the lead back role. I'm certainly keeping a close eye on him on my wire  But after 10 weeks it hasn't happened yet and with each passing week it becomes less likely it will.

What more do you want?

 
I want Harbaugh to stand at a podium and tell me exactly why Ty'Son is 3rd in the pecking order.  Don't beat around the bush.  Use his name.  Say something like, "Ty'son is 3rd because ....".  He owes me that much as a fantasy footballer, doesn't he?
Yes, of course he does.

 
I want Harbaugh to stand at a podium and tell me exactly why Ty'Son is 3rd in the pecking order.  Don't beat around the bush.  Use his name.  Say something like, "Ty'son is 3rd because ....".  He owes me that much as a fantasy footballer, doesn't he?
*References holy Magic Footbanomicon*

Yep, that checks out.

 
I want Harbaugh to stand at a podium and tell me exactly why Ty'Son is 3rd in the pecking order.  Don't beat around the bush.  Use his name.  Say something like, "Ty'son is 3rd because ....".  He owes me that much as a fantasy footballer, doesn't he?
I believe he prefers more established names, even if they are over the hill.  I simply don't believe he trusts Williams.

 
I believe he prefers more established names, even if they are over the hill.  I simply don't believe he trusts Williams.
I think we'll be seeing Tyson as we get into the playoffs.  Fresh (relatively) proven legs.  He'll use the old guys to get them there and then...

 
I think we'll be seeing Tyson as we get into the playoffs.  Fresh (relatively) proven legs.  He'll use the old guys to get them there and then...
Does that really seem likely?

Hey this game plan got us to the playoffs, now let's switch it up.

Ty'son may get his shot but it won't be because Harbaugh decides to get cute. He's not saving Ty'son for "fresh legs", if anything he would be riding him now and saving the vets for crunch time.

 
Does that really seem likely?

Hey this game plan got us to the playoffs, now let's switch it up.

Ty'son may get his shot but it won't be because Harbaugh decides to get cute. He's not saving Ty'son for "fresh legs", if anything he would be riding him now and saving the vets for crunch time.
His logic doesn't make sense but if you have the spot I think Tyson is worth a one week rental to see if he gets some work this week with Bell cut. Freeman and Murray are bad. A Ravens beat writer who usually doesn't tweet his opinions said Ravens rbs look slow and they need to give Williams some run. I had a spot with ab ruled out so I grabbed Tyson for this week to see what happens. I was never a Williams truther early. Ravens do seem to have a rb break out late in the season. 

 
His logic doesn't make sense but if you have the spot I think Tyson is worth a one week rental to see if he gets some work this week with Bell cut. Freeman and Murray are bad. A Ravens beat writer who usually doesn't tweet his opinions said Ravens rbs look slow and they need to give Williams some run. I had a spot with ab ruled out so I grabbed Tyson for this week to see what happens. I was never a Williams truther early. Ravens do seem to have a rb break out late in the season. 
The feeling I had must of been indigestion

 
DeeJay Dallas?

Seems like the Seattle run game is in flux -  Collins hasn’t been that impressive and Penny got hurt again. 

 
WW has been pretty weak this year mostly.  Pages and pages written on every back up rb in the league but nothing really coming to fruition

 
Yeah...in a week I need WR options in one league with Tyreek on a bye.  Patterson iffy.  And I just cannot rely on Brandin Cooks.  Every time I try to rely on him...he stinks even in a great matchup.
I don't think you are going to find much on the wire that will be better than Cooks. He had a season low in targets mostly because the Titans kept turning the ball over giving the Texans a short field. Even with it three targets he still averages 8.7 targets/game, 5.9 catches & 66 yards.

He gets to face the woeful Jets defense this week. 

Is there WR on your wire that has that baseline?

 
Yeah...in a week I need WR options in one league with Tyreek on a bye.  Patterson iffy.  And I just cannot rely on Brandin Cooks.  Every time I try to rely on him...he stinks even in a great matchup.
In a similar boat with Tyreek. My only bench options are Golladay, Freiermuth and Wilson (if Mitchell sits again). Best flex option on the WW is ... Freeman? Agholor? Knox? Nothing I'm getting excited over, and certainly nothing I'm burning a waiver priority on.

 
I don't think you are going to find much on the wire that will be better than Cooks. He had a season low in targets mostly because the Titans kept turning the ball over giving the Texans a short field. Even with it three targets he still averages 8.7 targets/game, 5.9 catches & 66 yards.

He gets to face the woeful Jets defense this week. 

Is there WR on your wire that has that baseline?
Oh, I agree.  That is what I am saying...the wire is pretty bare at the moment.  Ive trusted Cooks too long and missed out on other WR options the past several weeks because I thought I had something a little more in Cooks and gave him the benefit of the doubt with all the targets.  But even with the targets...he has been pretty meh for most of the year.

 
Need to drop 2 players because I have to activate CEH and Damien Harris from IR.  Full PPR.  Start 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 1 Flex.  Waivers run early Wed morning so need to make these moves Tuesday night.

Jalen Hurts is my only QB, and I stream K and DST so will need to make moves for both of those positions.

Bye weeks are also a pain for me
Week 12 - CEH
Week 13 - CMC, AJ Dillon, Kareem Hunt
Week 14 - Jalen Hurts, Jaylen Waddle, Damien Harris

Here's who I have and their upcoming schedule through week 17
RB - Christian McCaffery - Carolina: Dolphins, BYE, Falcons, Bills, Buccs, Saints
RB - A.J. Dillon - Green Bay: Rams, BYE, Bears, Ravens, Browns, Vikings
RB - Clyde Edwards-Helaire - Kansas City: BYE, Broncos, Raiders, Chargers, Steelers, Bengals
RB - Damien Harris - New England: Titans, Bills, BYE, Colts, Bills, Jaguars
RB - Jeff Wilson - San Francisco: Vikings, Seahawks, Bengals, Falcons, Titans, Texans
RB - Alex Collins - Seattle: Footballs, 49ers, Texans, Rams, Bears, Lions

WR/TE - Justin Jefferson - Minnesota: 49ers, Lions, Steelers, Bears, Rams, Packers
WR/TE - Tyler Lockett - Seattle: Footballs, 49ers, Texans, Rams, Bears, Lions
WR/TE - Kyle Pitts - Atlanta: Jaguars, Buccs, Panthers, 49ers, Lions, Bills
WR/TE - Jaylen Waddle - Miami: Panthers, Giants, BYE, Jets, Saints, Titans
WR/TE - Jerry Jeudy - Denver: Chargers, Chiefs, Lions, Bengals, Raiders, Chargers
WR/TE - Emmanuel Sanders - Buffalo: Saints, Patriots, Buccs, Panthers, Patriots, Falcons
WR/TE - Kadarius Toney - NY Giants: Eagles, Dolphins, Chargers, Cowboys, Eagles, Bears

Still on IR and can stay there for now
RB - Kareem Hunt - Cleveland: Ravens, BYE, Ravens, Raiders, Packers, Steelers

 
Need to drop 2 players because I have to activate CEH and Damien Harris from IR.  Full PPR.  Start 2 RB, 3 WR/TE, 1 Flex.  Waivers run early Wed morning so need to make these moves Tuesday night.

Jalen Hurts is my only QB, and I stream K and DST so will need to make moves for both of those positions.

Bye weeks are also a pain for me
Week 12 - CEH
Week 13 - CMC, AJ Dillon, Kareem Hunt
Week 14 - Jalen Hurts, Jaylen Waddle, Damien Harris

Here's who I have and their upcoming schedule through week 17
RB - Christian McCaffery - Carolina: Dolphins, BYE, Falcons, Bills, Buccs, Saints
RB - A.J. Dillon - Green Bay: Rams, BYE, Bears, Ravens, Browns, Vikings
RB - Clyde Edwards-Helaire - Kansas City: BYE, Broncos, Raiders, Chargers, Steelers, Bengals
RB - Damien Harris - New England: Titans, Bills, BYE, Colts, Bills, Jaguars
RB - Jeff Wilson - San Francisco: Vikings, Seahawks, Bengals, Falcons, Titans, Texans
RB - Alex Collins - Seattle: Footballs, 49ers, Texans, Rams, Bears, Lions

WR/TE - Justin Jefferson - Minnesota: 49ers, Lions, Steelers, Bears, Rams, Packers
WR/TE - Tyler Lockett - Seattle: Footballs, 49ers, Texans, Rams, Bears, Lions
WR/TE - Kyle Pitts - Atlanta: Jaguars, Buccs, Panthers, 49ers, Lions, Bills
WR/TE - Jaylen Waddle - Miami: Panthers, Giants, BYE, Jets, Saints, Titans
WR/TE - Jerry Jeudy - Denver: Chargers, Chiefs, Lions, Bengals, Raiders, Chargers
WR/TE - Emmanuel Sanders - Buffalo: Saints, Patriots, Buccs, Panthers, Patriots, Falcons
WR/TE - Kadarius Toney - NY Giants: Eagles, Dolphins, Chargers, Cowboys, Eagles, Bears

Still on IR and can stay there for now
RB - Kareem Hunt - Cleveland: Ravens, BYE, Ravens, Raiders, Packers, Steelers
Sanders and Wilson

 
Let's go live to me looking at this week's WW options ...

:tumbleweed:


Same same

DeeJay Dallas?

Seems like the Seattle run game is in flux -  Collins hasn’t been that impressive and Penny got hurt again. 


Available 

Ty Johnson


Rostered

Didn't Coleman get most of the carries after Carter went out? Not that I'd necessarily recommend picking him up. But if it's a bad offense AND an ambiguous backfield, that strongly suggests stay-away, IMO.


Available

Gotta move my RB3 (Carter) to IR. Guess I could pick up Breida.

:shrug:

I have a decent RB 4-5-6 (Pollard-Javonte-McKissic) so maybe I’ll nab a WR5 (Goodwin or ARSB.). Or K2 (Gould, Elliot.)

Regardless, they’re unlikely to ever see my lineup. Pretty active league and anybody with a pulse is rostered. I was high score this week and 2nd on the season so NBD but kind of discouraging looking at the WW - I don’t have to drop anyone, but really don’t see much reason to make a move.

 
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Guess I could pick up Breida.

:shrug:


Definitely going for Breida.

BUF has got to know at this point they have to run the ball. They've given Moss and Singletary what...2 years now? Aint going to happen. 

Breida when healthy has been effective in the past. Back in his SF days I thought he was going to take that job, but he kept getting banged up (and he continues to get banged up).

In that offense, a lot of upside. Worth a flyer.

 
Definitely going for Breida.

BUF has got to know at this point they have to run the ball. They've given Moss and Singletary what...2 years now? Aint going to happen. 

Breida when healthy has been effective in the past. Back in his SF days I thought he was going to take that job, but he kept getting banged up (and he continues to get banged up).

In that offense, a lot of upside. Worth a flyer.


$32 FAAB left (5 have less, 6 have more.)

Probably not gonna be many more worthy targets, right?

 
$32 FAAB left (5 have less, 6 have more.)

Probably not gonna be many more worthy targets, right?


Jeesh...that seems steep. Low probability pay off, but if it pays off it will big.

Right now thinking maybe he's a little off the radar and could spend less. I could be proved wrong if every single fantasy site has him as the #1 target tmrw morning.

 
kyoun1e said:
Definitely going for Breida.

BUF has got to know at this point they have to run the ball. They've given Moss and Singletary what...2 years now? Aint going to happen. 

Breida when healthy has been effective in the past. Back in his SF days I thought he was going to take that job, but he kept getting banged up (and he continues to get banged up).

In that offense, a lot of upside. Worth a flyer.


Good luck this week vs. the Saints league leading 2.7 yds. / carry allowed. 

 
kyoun1e said:
Definitely going for Breida.

BUF has got to know at this point they have to run the ball. They've given Moss and Singletary what...2 years now? Aint going to happen. 

Breida when healthy has been effective in the past. Back in his SF days I thought he was going to take that job, but he kept getting banged up (and he continues to get banged up).

In that offense, a lot of upside. Worth a flyer.
I can see Breida more touches, but still see Singletary and Moss being involved.

 
kyoun1e said:
Definitely going for Breida.

BUF has got to know at this point they have to run the ball. They've given Moss and Singletary what...2 years now? Aint going to happen. 

Breida when healthy has been effective in the past. Back in his SF days I thought he was going to take that job, but he kept getting banged up (and he continues to get banged up).

In that offense, a lot of upside. Worth a flyer.
All I see is a three-headed monster. Maybe I'm missing something. I don't even know who's going to be in any given drive, much less any given game. I hope it works out for you, but it's a hard pass for me. 

 
All I see is a three-headed monster. Maybe I'm missing something. I don't even know who's going to be in any given drive, much less any given game. I hope it works out for you, but it's a hard pass for me. 


In one particular league, I have a bye already clinched. I'm looking ahead here. Maybe it's possible that in three weeks Breida has emerged. Lottery ticket for sure.

All I know is that if I were in charge of BUF I'd do something with that running game and Moss and Singletary have now crapped the bed for 2 years. Try something else.

 
In one particular league, I have a bye already clinched. I'm looking ahead here. Maybe it's possible that in three weeks Breida has emerged. Lottery ticket for sure.

All I know is that if I were in charge of BUF I'd do something with that running game and Moss and Singletary have now crapped the bed for 2 years. Try something else.
I am not certain Buffalo has an offense a RB can 'emerge' from. Singletary has averaged 5+ yards per carry all year and can't separate himself from Zack Moss.

Then again the offense hasn't been spectacular of late so maybe they retool like Philly did and start running a lot more.

 
kyoun1e said:
Breida when healthy has been effective in the past. Back in his SF days I thought he was going to take that job, but he kept getting banged up (and he continues to get banged up).

In that offense, a lot of upside. Worth a flyer.
My grandmother when she has balls has been an effective grandfather in the past

 
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zamboni said:
DeeJay Dallas?

Seems like the Seattle run game is in flux -  Collins hasn’t been that impressive and Penny got hurt again. 
My waiver wire has been picked clean of most RBs. I have the choice of DeeJay, R.Jones, and Rex Burkhead. Not sure who should be top of the list for rest of season non ppr.

 
My waiver wire has been picked clean of most RBs. I have the choice of DeeJay, R.Jones, and Rex Burkhead. Not sure who should be top of the list for rest of season non ppr.
None of them are exciting options for sure.

We know who Burkhead is, but not sure he’ll continue to be featured over DJ and Lindsay. And not a ton of upside in that offense.

Jones is a good handcuff and could pop, but only if Fournette gets hurt.

DeeJay is a complete unknown, but could also emerge without Carson there, Penny hurt, and Collins not cementing the job. Still a team that is committed to the run, so there is opportunity. Homer could take on that passing game role though. 

Just on potential upside, I’d lean DeeJay.

 
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Is Ollison worth a look?  He looked decent on a few runs vs NE; buts its the Falcons.
Might be worth a speculative add, but I don't see a lot of upside. They may want to limit Patterson's carries and use him more in the passing game, opening up some early down work for Ollison. But how many carries - and whether he would get any goal line work - is a bit question mark.

 

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