themeistersinger
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But how would Guyton do with neither Williams nor Allen to draw coverage - going from the third WR to the top WR isn't that easy.
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Weekly Waiver Wire Pick Ups - **CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK** Week 17 starts on Page 30 (1 Viewer)
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crushedspirit
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Truth, but will the D try to key him out, or focus on Ekeler more? Someone has to catch what Herbert throws, which should be at least 30 tries.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Good question. Depends on the health of the other RBs in SF. If Hasty is the main RB in SF, it’s worth a roll of the dice. Foreman should be solid but probably not going to be a game winner.Double said:
JohnnyU
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Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Seems like a lot of things / players to follow this week. So many potential starts and Flex play and injuries and Covid and who's playing, and which player scores more fantasy points - Mr. Obvious. I'm watching SF RB situation - need a sure thing here or I'm out. I'm watching D Hilliard in at Flex or some other that rises over the week, like a Hasty. Same with Aiyuk and SF with or without Deebo and does it matter. Is there a better Flex. I'm watching CAR RB's with CAM in the mix. Had to start CAR D/ST in one league. We'll see. I'm watching T Hill and loving the news so far in one league. No room to pick him up in other leagues. I'm watching Conklin jump up the board but I don't need a TE. I'm watching K.J. Osborn still a FA and wondering if Osborn > Aiyuk. Sounds like Osborn might give us at least 2 weeks.
With limited benches and limited moves it's important to jump when the news breaks. And then how soon do FBG's begin to change. I will find news here and on my phone.
With limited benches and limited moves it's important to jump when the news breaks. And then how soon do FBG's begin to change. I will find news here and on my phone.
TheWinz
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Not so fast there. Williams isn't even guaranteed to miss week 14, nevermind week 15. He was only a close contact; he has not tested positive ATM.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
You are correct as I just heard the news that Williams is only a close contact to Allen. Hopeful now.
I'm putting in a bid for Henry. My bench is decimated with injuries so I have room. It sounds like he will be back early January. You never know, he could be back slightly earlier. I'll be competing with about 2000 other teams in weeks 15-17. The top total points win the money. If Henry is back for week 17 and maybe 16 that would be like having the guy who goes off in a DFS lineup. If you don't have him you don't have a chance.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Grabbed Penny after waivers.
Most theoretical upside. All Days running on fumes and Collins flopped hard with extended run as starter. Penny looked the best last weekend and he actually started ahead of Collins 2 or 3 weeks ago before going down. There's one thing that's certain....no one has given Penny more lives/chances than Peter Carroll
Most theoretical upside. All Days running on fumes and Collins flopped hard with extended run as starter. Penny looked the best last weekend and he actually started ahead of Collins 2 or 3 weeks ago before going down. There's one thing that's certain....no one has given Penny more lives/chances than Peter Carroll
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Picked him up as well.
SEA could get on a roll here. The schedule is there. Wilson healthier. Big win over SF.
Penny is a great playoff stash. Matchup week 17 in the championship game vs DET alone worth the hold right now if you've clinched and have room.
JohnnyU
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Was able to get Osborn and even though Julio Jones will probably get activated, I will have to start Osborn and save Julio Jones until Sunday in case Elijah Moore doesn't play. It's a calculation that could backfire with a dud from Osborn and Julio has a great game and I don't start him because Moore plays, but would be worse if I sit Osborn (Thurs game) and Moore sits and Julio either sits or throws up a dud.
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Drake Hater
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Similar situation here. Have to start Osborn with Moore questionable. My WRs include Pittman who's on bye and Cooks who is hard to trust right now. Opponent has Dionte Johnson on Thursday night too. Defenses for both aren't very good right now so it could be a shootout of sorts.
Keith1
Footballguy
would you dare start Penny this week ? Ballsy I know. My Pats RBs are on bye and I have several others hurt or on bye as well (Waller, McKissic, D. Parker). Thinking of putting him in as my flex.
Depends on other options, but I don't think it's a terrible gamble.
The matchup is there against a pitiful HOU rush D. He'll get touches.
Then again, AP may get goaline, Collins could get sprinkled in.
I know this. We'll know if Penny is truly a "thing" after this weekend.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
If you can't run against Houston, you can't run.
Keith1
Footballguy
I picked up Osborne for $1. Rolling with him and Jefferson... May actually roll with him, Jefferson, Mattison, and Cook because I have no idea who is going to go off and my alternatives are below...
Now I just need to figure out who to pickup and drop Ingram for if Gordon/Edmonds aren't playing this week... choosing between terrible SEA RBs/HOU RBs on FA or guys like Shepard / Boyd.
Now I just need to figure out who to pickup and drop Ingram for if Gordon/Edmonds aren't playing this week... choosing between terrible SEA RBs/HOU RBs on FA or guys like Shepard / Boyd.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
I can’t add and start Penny because I believe AD will get the goal line and Homer will get the passing down work
That leaves 10-12 carries for 40 yds for Penny. Throw in a catch and you’ve got 5-6 points in ppr. And that’s if he doesn’t get hurt during the National Anthem.
I hope all of us that are running Osborn out there tonight are happy in the morning
That leaves 10-12 carries for 40 yds for Penny. Throw in a catch and you’ve got 5-6 points in ppr. And that’s if he doesn’t get hurt during the National Anthem.
I hope all of us that are running Osborn out there tonight are happy in the morning
zamboni
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Not necessarily. I believe Peterson needs to be activated again off the practice squad, and with Collins returning, that may not happen. Plus not sure that AP would automatically get those carries.
As for the passing game, Homer has done well there, but so did Penny last week - one particular blitz pick up down the stretch had Carroll heaping praise after the game.
More from Carroll: https://twitter.com/gbellseattle/status/1467994497002852355?s=20
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Chaka
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Homer caught four passes for ten yards last week, I don't think he is a lock for the receiving role. He's also questionable with a calf.I can’t add and start Penny because I believe AD will get the goal line and Homer will get the passing down work
That leaves 10-12 carries for 40 yds for Penny. Throw in a catch and you’ve got 5-6 points in ppr. And that’s if he doesn’t get hurt during the National Anthem.
I hope all of us that are running Osborn out there tonight are happy in the morning
Leroy Hoard
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DocHolliday
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zamboni
Footballguy
Scooby1974
Footballguy
I dumped Collins...just not sure I can deal with the RBBC........he's still out there.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
So Elijah Mitchell appears to be DNP today, so trending towards out on Sunday I estimate. Both Jeff Wilson and JaMycal Hasty are on the WW - who would be better to pick up?
Wilson had some knee irritation this week too, Hasty seems like the only fully healthy RB. Unless you consider Deebo an RB.
Wilson had some knee irritation this week too, Hasty seems like the only fully healthy RB. Unless you consider Deebo an RB.
Chaka
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Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Eh, that’s what makes ff fun. We all place our bets on what we think is going to happen. No one knows.
My $ will not be on Mr Penny
Chaka
Footballguy
I wouldn't. He had a knee "flare up" three days ago and now he's supposedly in line to start? Not sure I trust it. Foreman got 19 carries against the Pats for 109 yards and was the starter and played throughout the game. Hilliard broke off a big play and had 11 other carries but he was definitely the 1b to Foreman's 1a.
I like Shanahan to beat the heck out of his #1 RB as much as anyone but I'm just not confident Wilson can hold up to the punishment.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I got lucky with Osborn. Glad I saved Julio for Sunday in case Moore sits. I hope one of Julio or Moore plays.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
themeistersinger
Footballguy
He did put up 18.3 against GB in week 5 and 15.5 against Bal week 7 (PPR) and Chris Evans is out this week, so if Mixon is out he should be a work horse. Depending on if Mixon is weakened from the illness he could get a load even if Mixon is active. I'd definitely give him consideration. I'm debating dropping Kyle Pitts for him.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Yahoo being what it is…able to put Eli Mitchell in IR since he was ruled out. Picked up Perine as a just in case. Not sure I will play him at all…but will keep my opponent or anyone else from him.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
Godwin Igwebuike or Jermar Jefferson (Detroit) with Swift out and Jamaal Williams on Covid list. Jefferson did miss weeks 11 and 12 with a high ankle sprain, but did play last week against Minnesota. (8 snaps for Jefferson yielding 5 touches, 28 snaps for Igwebuike yielding 3 touches).
PFF Grades below - neither guy has seen much action
Godwin Igwebuike - 50 total snaps
Running 92.2 on 8 running snaps
Receiving 62.9 on 39 receiving snaps
Pass Blocking 85.0 on 2 Pass blocking snaps
Run Blocking 60.0 on 1 Run blocking snap
Jermar Jefferson - 27 total snaps
Running 76.1 on 12 running snaps
Receiving 74.8 on 12 receiving snaps
Pass Blocking 30.9 on 2 Pass blocking snaps
Run Blocking 60.0 on 1 Run blocking snap
Matt Waldman talks about Jefferson here:
https://www.footballguys.com/article/2021-gutcheck-554-jermar-jefferson-is-a-buy-low
PFF Grades below - neither guy has seen much action
Godwin Igwebuike - 50 total snaps
Running 92.2 on 8 running snaps
Receiving 62.9 on 39 receiving snaps
Pass Blocking 85.0 on 2 Pass blocking snaps
Run Blocking 60.0 on 1 Run blocking snap
Jermar Jefferson - 27 total snaps
Running 76.1 on 12 running snaps
Receiving 74.8 on 12 receiving snaps
Pass Blocking 30.9 on 2 Pass blocking snaps
Run Blocking 60.0 on 1 Run blocking snap
Matt Waldman talks about Jefferson here:
https://www.footballguys.com/article/2021-gutcheck-554-jermar-jefferson-is-a-buy-low
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Cowboysfan8
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Yeah. Seeing his is questionable…now shifting to possibly picking up Penny with Peterson out. Houston is so bad.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
I’ve made my feelings on Penny known here.
But I’m wrong more than right so who knows?
sho nuff
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Chaka
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zamboni
Footballguy
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Who to pick first among Jeff Wilson, Hasty, Penny or Igwebuike? Leaning Wilson and hoping he lasts more than one play...
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Igwebuike will be in the receiving back role more often. He’s dynamic in space.
Detroit had almost two dozen flu cases this week. They split the practices into two squads (morning/afternoon) trying to contain it. Swift, Reeves-Maybin, most of their D line declared out with injuries (Hockenson doubtful.) Thay’ve got a UDFA guy making his NFL debut who will be starting at EDGE.
I’m expecting them to come out flat and be behind early. I think the game script favors Godwin over JJ.
Chaka
Footballguy
Everyone has to love Wilson but I'm bearish on him. I question if his can his knee hold up and even if it does will he get the receiving opportunities over Hasty?
Last time Mitchell missed a game Wilson got 19 carries and two targets, which is awesome, but it was against the overmatched Jags, he only managed 58 yards and Sermon also got 10 carries and a target. It doesn't sound like his knee has significantly improved since then.
Wilson is probably the "smart" or safe choice but I might gamble on Penny. I think he's the most talented of the bunch and the Seahawks should roll against the Mills led Texans.
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If there was ever a week to play Penny this is probably it. Seahawks know that Collins isnt coming back next year and also Penny could be super cheap given his injury history. Add in the opposition and its a perfect storm.
That said watch him break his wrist picking up a bottle of Gatorade
That said watch him break his wrist picking up a bottle of Gatorade
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Lions RB situation is fluid and it’s hard to extrapolate from small sample sizes, but Godwin Igwebuike should have good volume independent of game script. If it goes as bad as I expect, he’s a very good pass catching & so far has been decent in pass pro. If the game is close, Jefferson missed two practices this week and had been behind Igwebuike all year. Practice squad RB will he active but I doubt he sees many snaps - he’ll likely take the KR duties from Iggy.
With Wilson not on injury report, Hasty is not the play. Looking at Abdullah or Penny now. I think I might pick them both up now and drop Hasty and Tevin.
