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We've cut the cable (6 Viewers)

$60 or internet and $20-55 for either Sling or Vue.  That's it.  Where is this back and forth you speak of?  

I do remember the back and forth with the cable company though with hidden fees, rate hikes, contracts, equipment fees, taxes, strings attached ugh.  What a mess that used to be.
well and the antenna and that's provided he gets a good signal.   people should just embrace the everything the on demand approach and then your cost is nothing outside of internet and whatever device you choose ie firestick, roku, pi  

 
Here again and not to beat a dead horse but is the savings in this scenario really worth the convenience of a single provider?  Because what you posted above seems like a lot of back and forth and you still are having to pay monthly for various things and they are in no doubt going to increase as time goes on.
Oh contraire, this is a hot market with every top tech company coming in to compete for a share of the market place.  That only means better prices for the consumer.

The cable companies on the other hand, rate hikes are a given every single year and every single contract laps.  Directv has already announced theirs starting this month.

 
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Seriously... Playstation Vue is cable. Except the price never changes and you don't pay a $10/month fee for "HD broadcast." I've never missed anything I've wanted to see since I cancelled a year ago

 
Pi$$ed at Directv over locals. Cbs is still out for me.

Mohu leafs are ordered. 

Watch a ton of sports and was pleased by Sling channel lineup.

I have two dumb tvs and 2 fire sticks.  Do I need to order actual fire tv?

Can I order NHL Center Ice thru Fire Stick or do I need another device? 

When NFL starts and I need to order Sunday ticket, is there a device to better VPN? 

Note : These device questions apply to 2 TVs.

 
I have two dumb tvs and 2 fire sticks.  Do I need to order actual fire tv?
I started with a Fire Stick, used it for a year or so, then moved to a Fire TV.  I was happy with the stick, happier with the Fire TV.  You don't have to upgrade, but it has less buffering than a stick.

 
JaxBill said:
Pi$$ed at Directv over locals. Cbs is still out for me.

Mohu leafs are ordered. 

Watch a ton of sports and was pleased by Sling channel lineup.

I have two dumb tvs and 2 fire sticks.  Do I need to order actual fire tv?

Can I order NHL Center Ice thru Fire Stick or do I need another device? 

When NFL starts and I need to order Sunday ticket, is there a device to better VPN? 

Note : These device questions apply to 2 TVs.
Point a VPN to someplace outside of north America and you can get full NFL ticket (no black outs, no restrictions) all the way through the playoffs for $130 from nfl.com.  That includes red zone and nfl network.

That was this year's price, not sure about next year.  You shop around countries to see which is the cheapest before signing up.

ETA:  You'll have to do a little work to get the Gamepass app on the firestick though (I have a htpc).  Google sideloading and adbfire.

 
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Point a VPN to someplace outside of north America and you can get full NFL ticket (no black outs, no restrictions) all the way through the playoffs for $130 from nfl.com.  That includes red zone and nfl network.

That was this year's price, not sure about next year.  You shop around countries to see which is the cheapest before signing up. 
If I were a company I would bill based on bank location, not IP address.  Way harder to "VPN" your banking info.

 
Plus that would be mean to make our armed forces get a bank account in one of those crappy countries just to watch football at the discount rate. 

 
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So, dumb question.  If I buy an external HDD and hook it up to my router, is it a simple process to access the files on that HDD from various types of devices?  i.e. 4 iphones, 1 Galaxy 6, 1 Dell laptop, 1 FireTV and 1 FireStick?  I'm guessing it would kind of be a mess.

 
So, dumb question.  If I buy an external HDD and hook it up to my router, is it a simple process to access the files on that HDD from various types of devices?  i.e. 4 iphones, 1 Galaxy 6, 1 Dell laptop, 1 FireTV and 1 FireStick?  I'm guessing it would kind of be a mess.
If your router has a USB port, you just need to make sure your router supports USB drive sharing and then all on the network should be able to see the hard drive.

Here are some instructions

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/share-an-external-hard-drive-over-a-wi-fi-network/

 
Point a VPN to someplace outside of north America and you can get full NFL ticket (no black outs, no restrictions) all the way through the playoffs for $130 from nfl.com.  That includes red zone and nfl network.

That was this year's price, not sure about next year.  You shop around countries to see which is the cheapest before signing up.

ETA:  You'll have to do a little work to get the Gamepass app on the firestick though (I have a htpc).  Google sideloading and adbfire.
Kodi app as well for NFL Gamepass International. Had it this season, it's flawless with the VPN turned on. Only annoyance is that it blacks out games shown nationally in the UK on Sky Sports (where my VPN was pointed), but small potatoes. Worth every penny, and I was too lazy to look into using another country as the VPN option, I'm sure this works.

 
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Kodi app as well for NFL Gamepass International. Had it this season, it's flawless with the VPN turned on. Only annoyance is that it blacks out games shown nationally in the UK on Sky Sports (where my VPN was pointed), but small potatoes. Worth every penny, and I was too lazy to look into using another country as the VPN option, I'm sure this works.
Ditto.  Worked great and streamed HD!

 
FWIW, Time Warner/Spectrum is rolling out some great deals. I just signed up for 60 Mbps, free modem and wifi for a year for $44.99 per month. 

 
After 4 months with PS Vue and ota antenna, I'm going to Dish. For about $20 more a month I get their top 200 tier with free HBO for a year. I am located between two cities that carry the locals and I had trouble getting clear reception consistently, especially in bad weather. Only took one time of NFL cutting out to get me thinking about it. As for PS Vue, the streaming quality is good on my fire tv box that is hard wired to my modem, but the quality and sound is not on par with Dish or Directv. So I made calls to both this week. DTV would not offer me any of their new customer deals since I was a recent customer and got a deal last July. Go f*** yourself Directv. I signed up with Dish at less the cost and a price that is locked in for 2 years. Plus the hopper 3 dvr is supposed to be far superior to Directv. 

So it was a learning experience for me. Streaming may be the future, but the lower quality, buffering and lack of dvr features have killed it for me for now. The convenience of having a lot more channels, high picture quality and sound, a great dvr and all my locals in one product and one place is well worth the $20 extra. Dish install is tomorrow. 

 
Thanks all for the help ... we have cut the cord successfully for a full year now and love it!

The reason I know it's been over a year, is Comcast / Xfinity just jacked the monthly price up for 75mbps internet from $50 to $85.  Any success stories or tips for when I call these guys to negotiate?  Should I go to the b&m store like I did initially for the deal?  Yes, it's "only" $35 ... but it's the principle of the thing.  I only read back through the last couple pages, so apologies if I should have just dug deeper.  Happy Holidays, you guys.


Just wanted to pass this along.  I followed @comcastcares and sent them a tweet asking about my increased bill.  I gave them my account info and within a couple of tweet replies back, the representative asked if I'd be interested in a 12-month plan for $49.99   :loco:   :thumbup:

So after a simple exchange of DM's on twitter, I got my bill reset back to the original $49.99 rate that we all got for the 1st year.  Worth a try if anyone else finds their bill jumps up after the initial promotion period.  I guess I will tweet them again next January.

Oh, and they raised the internet speed from 75 MBPS to 100 MBPS  :D

 
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Been with direcTV for quite a while.  I just jumped on the DTVNow intro deal to test it out before dumping DTV: $35/mo, no contract, free fire-stick.  I figure if it sucks after 1 month, I can cancel and basically just bought the fire-stick so it's really no risk.

Set up was easy and watched a bit last night.  Seems to be decent.  Lack of DVR may be an issue - it seems we are left to the whims of the networks if they want to make shows available on-demand.  Examples: no Daily Show, no Portlandia, no Big Bang Theory.

Fortunately, these shows seem available on apps within Fire Stick, so may not be a big deal.

Downside: it takes about 20 seconds to buffer when you put on a show, so channel-surfing isn't feasible.  I do like the browsing feature though, where you can easily see what is on, or shows from the watch-list.

The real test will be how the wife enjoys it.

 
I've pulled out all the stops on installing an OTA antenna.

I'm 35+ miles from Hartford stations and 50+ miles from NYC with tons of hills and trees in between, so I bought a ClearStream4 and did some initial testing inside and in my attic, where I got encouraging signals on most of the channels I'm going for.

I then bought supplies for a roof install and did some testing today on my lower roof. Signals improved and I got encouraging signals on some of the missing channels. I'm nervous about leaves growing in on the trees and wiping out my signal, so I'd like to go as high as possible, but I found out that my roof is not set up in a way where "I" am able to install the "eave mount" I purchased, so I contacted an installer today and hopefully will have the antenna in before the Superbowl.

I have Playstation Vue right now and don't get Fox, so I'm forced to use the Fox Sports App to watch football. It's reasonable, but not ideal.

If I can get the antenna working, I'll connect to a HDHomerun Extend and use Plex as a DVR.

 
So right now, I'm paying $83 for DTV and $54 for my Internet, so $137 total. To get DTV Now, it would be $35. But then, I'll probably need to upgrade my internet speed to the fastest they have, which would run me $70. And then since there is no CBS and my wife watches a bunch of CBS shows, I'll need CBS All-Access for $6. I end up saving about $26/month. However, I lose DVR by switching to DTV Now and with kids, I will need more than 2 streams at a time. So is the $26/month in savings worth losing out on DVR and being able to only stream 2 things at once?
This is where I am.  Lots of time and some potential complexity up front, plus a few hundred dollars.  In order to save $25-30 a month, and not have access to literally everything that airs.  Not really seeing the value proposition here yet.

 
I've pulled out all the stops on installing an OTA antenna.

I'm 35+ miles from Hartford stations and 50+ miles from NYC with tons of hills and trees in between, so I bought a ClearStream4 and did some initial testing inside and in my attic, where I got encouraging signals on most of the channels I'm going for.

I then bought supplies for a roof install and did some testing today on my lower roof. Signals improved and I got encouraging signals on some of the missing channels. I'm nervous about leaves growing in on the trees and wiping out my signal, so I'd like to go as high as possible, but I found out that my roof is not set up in a way where "I" am able to install the "eave mount" I purchased, so I contacted an installer today and hopefully will have the antenna in before the Superbowl.

I have Playstation Vue right now and don't get Fox, so I'm forced to use the Fox Sports App to watch football. It's reasonable, but not ideal.

If I can get the antenna working, I'll connect to a HDHomerun Extend and use Plex as a DVR.
Are you in one of the markets where Sling TV gets Fox channels?

 
I'm not sure, but I will check. Free 7 day trial to cover the Superbowl?
NYC has Fox and I'm in the NY market based on my zip code. Does anyone know if Sling uses billing zip code to set your market, or do they use IP address? Vue puts me in the Boston market based on IP address (couldn't find a way to reliably hack it, even with a VPN. It would work for a day or two and then they'd close my account because my ip address changed too many times)

 
This is where I am.  Lots of time and some potential complexity up front, plus a few hundred dollars.  In order to save $25-30 a month, and not have access to literally everything that airs.  Not really seeing the value proposition here yet.
this is me exactly as well. The price to availability ratio is just not there for me yet.  It is getting close.  If I was single I would probably cut.

I think I can actually convince the family to not need certain channels but I really need the DVR situation (complete availability of every show some where stored on demand or on cloud etc) to be much better when cutting the cord.

 
Not sure if this is the right place for the question, but if not I'm sure you all will let me know.  I've discussed cutting the cord with the wife as she hates our monthly bill.  On the other hand, she really loves convenience and we have kids that insist on certain channels.  I'm switching this week from Comcast Xfinity to Verizon FiOS and cut back on some pay movie channels, resulting in about a 30% monthly savings.  Nice so far.

However, I'm going to miss out on some HBO and Showtime shows I like to watch.  I'm pretty familiar with torrenting as I've been doing that and using Plex for years to stream to Chromecasts on the various TVs in the house.  However, is there any easy/reliable way to set up my client (uTorrent) to automatically download a show - say, Game of Thrones - once it is released each week?  If so, can someone let me know how?  As a side question, my router (ASUS RT-AC66) has USB output where I think I should be able to put the media I torrent and still allow it to be found by PLEX and stream through the house.  Am I right on this guess?

 
Not sure if this is the right place for the question, but if not I'm sure you all will let me know.  I've discussed cutting the cord with the wife as she hates our monthly bill.  On the other hand, she really loves convenience and we have kids that insist on certain channels.  I'm switching this week from Comcast Xfinity to Verizon FiOS and cut back on some pay movie channels, resulting in about a 30% monthly savings.  Nice so far.

However, I'm going to miss out on some HBO and Showtime shows I like to watch.  I'm pretty familiar with torrenting as I've been doing that and using Plex for years to stream to Chromecasts on the various TVs in the house.  However, is there any easy/reliable way to set up my client (uTorrent) to automatically download a show - say, Game of Thrones - once it is released each week?  If so, can someone let me know how?  As a side question, my router (ASUS RT-AC66) has USB output where I think I should be able to put the media I torrent and still allow it to be found by PLEX and stream through the house.  Am I right on this guess?
Why torrent when you can just stream?

 
 As a side question, my router (ASUS RT-AC66) has USB output where I think I should be able to put the media I torrent and still allow it to be found by PLEX and stream through the house.  Am I right on this guess?
Yes, you can do that but it does not buy you anything.

I find it easier just to designate one computer in the house as the plex server and store your plex files connected to that computer.  Every device in the house can then access the plex server.

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I have not used it but I think something like www.showrss.com will work for you in terms of automatically torrenting shows based on name and quality.

 
Why torrent when you can just stream?
personally I always choose to torrent over stream.  It is more work but I am guaranteed the quality I want when I want it, with out worrying about internet issues I can't control when streaming.  I do acknowledge it is a little more work but it is worth it to me.

 
Yes, you can do that but it does not buy you anything.

I find it easier just to designate one computer in the house as the plex server and store your plex files connected to that computer.  Every device in the house can then access the plex server.

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I have not used it but I think something like www.showrss.com will work for you in terms of automatically torrenting shows based on name and quality.
That's what I've been doing so far.  I guess I'm just thinking that I'll get to a point (eventually) where I need to create more space and an external HDD could help, so maybe putting it on the router rather than the computer could help.  I dunno, was kind of spitballing.  I assume that with Plex, the computer would need to be "on" anyway, even if the files were connected to the router, right?

 
And how do you recommend I do that?  
most people use Kodi.  There is a whole thread on it if you are interested.  You would need to decide for yourself if would work for your family.  I tried it and my wife gave up after the first few shows she tried to access were not available.  Some people have no patience for this stuff, others love the free nature of getting anything they want.

There is no one right answer.  Find what works for you and your family and stick with it.

 
That's what I've been doing so far.  I guess I'm just thinking that I'll get to a point (eventually) where I need to create more space and an external HDD could help, so maybe putting it on the router rather than the computer could help.  I dunno, was kind of spitballing.  I assume that with Plex, the computer would need to be "on" anyway, even if the files were connected to the router, right?
yes, the plex computer would always have to be on no matter where you store the data.   I use an external HDD connected to my computer to store all plex data.  External HDD's are very cheap these days.

Putting the ext hdd on the router will allow you to set up a network drive for everyone in house to easily access but if you only intend to put plex files on hdd, then it does not buy you anything.

I would just recommend you get an external HDD, hook to your plex computer, store all plex files to it and then just tell plex where your library is and you are done for the whole house.

 
personally I always choose to torrent over stream.  It is more work but I am guaranteed the quality I want when I want it, with out worrying about internet issues I can't control when streaming.  I do acknowledge it is a little more work but it is worth it to me.
one is illegal & the other isnt

 
I wonder why all those people selling fully loaded kodi boxes on ebay arnt being taken down by ebay
I think in Europe they went to court to block these type of boxes.  I am sure this is a precursor of what will happen in the US eventually.

https://www.ivacy.com/blog/eu-ban-kodi-boxes-are-there-alternatives/

In general the more popular and easier to access data that is copy writed, the more the copy write holders are going to pressure the government to plug the hole.   The beauty of technology is that it is always one or ten steps ahead of the government for these cases.

Much like with torrenting, no one is going to waste the time going after the user, the government will try and attack the distribution model, which is where the can get the most bang for their buck.  In streamings case, they are going to go after the Kodi plugin people if they can't make a case against Kodi themselves for providing the platform for people to access the copy writed data.

 
I think in Europe they went to court to block these type of boxes.  I am sure this is a precursor of what will happen in the US eventually.

https://www.ivacy.com/blog/eu-ban-kodi-boxes-are-there-alternatives/

In general the more popular and easier to access data that is copy writed, the more the copy write holders are going to pressure the government to plug the hole.   The beauty of technology is that it is always one or ten steps ahead of the government for these cases.

Much like with torrenting, no one is going to waste the time going after the user, the government will try and attack the distribution model, which is where the can get the most bang for their buck.  In streamings case, they are going to go after the Kodi plugin people if they can't make a case against Kodi themselves for providing the platform for people to access the copy writed data.
yes the results of that case will be huge. who knows how long it will take though

 
personally I always choose to torrent over stream.  It is more work but I am guaranteed the quality I want when I want it, with out worrying about internet issues I can't control when streaming.  I do acknowledge it is a little more work but it is worth it to me.
i really don't know what quality you're looking for.   everything i watch on exodus is more than i need on my 55" tv.   i also don't know your internet speed but you'll never have a problem if you've got 30mb/s or greater.   that speed is pretty much a must have for me especially when it comes to watching live sports.  with those two factors out of the way, i can't see any benefit to torrents.

 
i really don't know what quality you're looking for.   everything i watch on exodus is more than i need on my 55" tv.   i also don't know your internet speed but you'll never have a problem if you've got 30mb/s or greater.   that speed is pretty much a must have for me especially when it comes to watching live sports.  with those two factors out of the way, i can't see any benefit to torrents.
the porn popup ads on the torrent sites are :thumbup:

 
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i can't see any benefit to torrents.




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I got hooked on them years ago when I lived in a rural area with a really flaky ISP whose internet seemed to go on the fritz a couple times a week, so having an offline copy of the show I wanted to see was clutch. Plus, I also worked in a place where I could take my laptop to work and watch movies to kill the time, and I wouldn't want to be caught streaming on the company's internet.

It's an extreme example, but an example nonetheless.

 
what is the go to torrent sites these days?  the only thing i ever need to torrent is ufc events b/c they're just on too late for me to want to stay up for and watch live.  i used to use kick ### torrents, but i tried that a few weeks back and they had nothing for the fights from the night before.

 

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