shadyridr
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reverse jinx works!
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What are Kaepernick owners doing? (1 Viewer)
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Jimbo Slice
Footballguy
Looks better. But really can't understand the lack of running
Shrek
Having a great season
Got offered Kaep and Dez Bryant for Peyton Manning in my dynasty, and believe it or not, I'm hesitant to pull the trigger. If he ran more by design I think the offense would open up a bit, and when Davis was out he looked awfully ordinary. What the hell happened to him in 10 months?
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
SportsGuru311
Footballguy
Tonight the Niners went back to their ground game more and it has helped Kap. I had him on the bench but am keeping him cause if the Niners keep with the ground game that will open it up for Kap to have some big games.
NajehHejan
Footballguy
Yeah Kaep looks great handing it off. Stinks that he gets no fantasy points when his RB scores. Assists down?
Gvindy
Footballguy
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
So, Brees and Peyton have never had bad games I take it.
OU#1
Footballguy
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Guys are rough. He's only what 14 games into his career? If this game were close, he would have had 300 yards and 3-4 TDs. Pretty obvious they shut any risk in the offense down when they went up 21-3.
Purple_King
Footballguy
Wilson got 22 points in a blowout against the Jags. If Wilson can do that, Kaep should do the same too..
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
HUGE loss at the end here of Joe Staley. That doesn't bode well.
OU#1
Footballguy
I believe what my eyes saw on the field tonight. He's timid, the play calling is timid, the guy doesn't use his legs nor do the coaches seem to want to let him run. You make a good point, but this is fantasy, and he's pretty much been ranked QB6 all season. He's not even looking like a QB1 right now unless the training wheels come off. Three stinkers in a row and a decent Houston D next week. I'm sure the "sharks" will say buy low, but the panic is real and justified.Bottom line, without his significant bump from rushing stats, he's a QB2 with slight upside.
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FantasyTrader
Footballguy
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
He didn't have to do much, game was always in hand. He did have a QB rating of 115. He missed some open receivers but he also made some nice throws. Hard to take much from Thursday night games.
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
Well wait a minute - last week the play calling wasn't timid and the 49ers were buried by the Colts. Despite averaging 7.5 yards a carry, Gore only touched the ball 11 times. Right now, without Crabtree (and until tonight missing Vernon Davis), defenses have just been camping out on the edges and bracketing Boldin. IMO, "timid" is EXACTLY what the doctor ordered. What made the read option so dynamic for this team last year was the fact that Gore was gouging people between the tackles. The real secret to the read option is great interior O-line play and making the LB's and ends cheat inside. EVERYTHING is predicated on that. It's like building a house. The foundation is the interior running game and only when that's successful - will it open up the edges for Kaepernick. And did you notice how much room Kaepernick had on those play actions rolling out to his right? Three words...interior running game. Those DE's started pinching down.
Call it timid play calling if you want. I call it re-establishing the foundation of their read-option. We'll see I guess.
FantasyTrader
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glumpy
breeze
I stuck with him--and Anquan. I've got Bradford backing him up and he's still got better numbers for the season after last night but the matchup called for Kaep. By our league scoring they did what I hope to need going up against the Peyton owner but then I didn't draft him to carry the team, only targeted him as 'last starter'. My team is built around a receiving corps, actually, with Boldin being my #4 through three games.
CentralPA
Footballguy
By the sounds of it (at least via his Twitter) he is OK. If anything his pride is hurt because he was screaming like a little girl when the injury occurred.
FF Wiseguy
Footballguy
I've got an offer of Kaep and Lamar Miller for my Rivers and Joique Bell. I've got Stafford, so I'm not desperate at quarterback, but even with Kaep's lackluster play these last 3 weeks, I'm still leaning towards taking it.
I'm slightly hesitant, as I really believe in Bell's value and don't think much of Miller right now. But it's a low risk trade overall, and I wouldn't need to start Kaep right away, so may just do it cause it feels like the right call.
I'm slightly hesitant, as I really believe in Bell's value and don't think much of Miller right now. But it's a low risk trade overall, and I wouldn't need to start Kaep right away, so may just do it cause it feels like the right call.
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shadyridr
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HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
Wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning Shady? The title of the thread is "What are Kaepernick owners doing?". I would think this is exactly the kind of response that the OP expected.
shadyridr
Footballguy
DoubleG
Footballguy
No - but he is giving you an idea what Kaep owners are doing - trading him for another decent QB (giving you valuation) or letting him ride the bench until SF rights the offensive ship.
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
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ghostguy123
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maxwjom0
Footballguy
Kaep has been disappointing to say the least. Last night was it for me even though he had somewhat average numbers. A big part of why I was so high on him was expecting him to rush for a minimum of 40+ yards/game giving him a high floor. He's obviously not running with the ball this year.
He is no longer a must start and I will consider a weekly QBBC with Cutler, Eli, and Tannehill over two different leagues.
He is no longer a must start and I will consider a weekly QBBC with Cutler, Eli, and Tannehill over two different leagues.
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pollardsvision
Footballguy
I'll see if I can trade him, but I don't have high hopes for that.
I'll probably just start treating him like I do other mediocre QBs. Drop them and pick another up off the wire for a couple weeks.
He wouldn't be the first mediocre QB with a slow, inconsistent delivery that can run to ride a great defense and running game to win a bunch of games for a half a season.
I'll probably just start treating him like I do other mediocre QBs. Drop them and pick another up off the wire for a couple weeks.
He wouldn't be the first mediocre QB with a slow, inconsistent delivery that can run to ride a great defense and running game to win a bunch of games for a half a season.
shadyridr
Footballguy
FF Wiseguy
Footballguy
I wasn't being sarcastic, but you're right, it is a no-brainer deal. I only said I was slightly hesitant because of my distaste for Miller and my beilef that Bush will get hurt, and that Bell will still have flex numbers when Bush is healthy.
Sorry for taking things so far off track. Here's my take: If I were a Kaepernick owner, I'd try and move him while the brand name still carries some value. Other than Vick, not too many of the other QBBC options I would have potentially paired with Kaep have really broken out, so I'm probably riding out the rough weeks and hoping the game plan turns around.
Warrior
Footballguy
You guys are ridiculous.
Kaep scores 20 fantasy points in the 1st half and then doesn't do anything in the second half because they were blowing Stl out. He just fed the RBs for the rest of the game. It wasn't a bad game by any means.
I swear, you guys will complain and panic about any little thing these days.
Kaep scores 20 fantasy points in the 1st half and then doesn't do anything in the second half because they were blowing Stl out. He just fed the RBs for the rest of the game. It wasn't a bad game by any means.
I swear, you guys will complain and panic about any little thing these days.
Warrior
Footballguy
I'm with Shady. There's an entire other forum for you to ask for trade advice. Your accepting/rejecting that specific trade doesn't help anyone else in the slightest.
shadyridr
Footballguy
its not the fact that they ran the ball a ton. I dont think anybody expected Kap to be a 300 yd passer every game. But the expectation was probably something like 220 yds passing, 40 yds rushing which in my league is the equivalent pts wise. Hes not getting the rushing yds so its killing his value. Also the guy looked HORRIBLE in the 1st qtr, then was on fire for the 2nd & 3rd qtr, and then had a bunch of 3 and outs and a fumble after that. That kind of inconsistency WITHIN a game is maddening.
Finally, he did not have 20 pts in the 1st half. He had 11 in my league. His TD pass to Vernon came midway thru the 3rd
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maxwjom0
Footballguy
Really? Were ridiculous because we drafted a guy to be a QB1 and through 25% of the season he's performing at a QB2 level?
Nobody hopes Kaep performs more than me but at some point hoping isn't enough and you have to begin to weigh options.
