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What are Kaepernick owners doing? (1 Viewer)

so much denial in this thread. It's so bad that we now claim Kaep needs tough matchups to be able to produce in fantasy? Think about how ridiculous that is...

 
Just dropped him for Cutler. Got Cutler/Pryor on my team now. Gonna roll with Cutler this week.

I drafted Kaep in the 3rd or 4th round. What a waste

 
What are they doing? Probably wishing they didnt draft a QB who was all hype in the first place who had what, 8 total starts in his career? How did you think this would turn out? The league wasnt prepared for running QBs last year, now they are, now he is doing nothing. Thats how it works. Other then his 4 TD game last year he has done nothing and never had over 2 TDs in any other game. He had his second 3 TD or more game against the Packers this year and has only 3 TDs in his last 4 games.

 
I don't see it happening for Kaep and I'd love to cut him, but can't.

Partially thanks to rostering Kaep, I'm no longer playing for this year. Long-term upside is all that matters now.

It's either Kaep or Geno Smith now. I'll give Kaep until he gets Crabtree and Manningham back in that scenario before bailing.

 
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The Kaep owner in my league is all up in my grill to acquire Phillip Rivers from me. However, he believes that since Rivers is my backup, he only needs to offer me a backup in return. He must not be panicking....yet

 
Phenix said:
What are they doing? Probably wishing they didnt draft a QB who was all hype in the first place who had what, 8 total starts in his career? How did you think this would turn out? The league wasnt prepared for running QBs last year, now they are, now he is doing nothing. Thats how it works. Other then his 4 TD game last year he has done nothing and never had over 2 TDs in any other game. He had his second 3 TD or more game against the Packers this year and has only 3 TDs in his last 4 games.
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The hype inflicted most people. I was struggling with the decision of keeping Kaepernick this year (in exchange for my 10th round pick) to use as my QB1, while reading all these predictions about him being a Top 5-10 QB... eventually the hype got to me and I kept him. It afforded me the option of loading up on RB/WR/TE without needing to draft a QB in the first 9 rounds, but I'm paying for it.

The hype inflicted even the fbguys

http://subscribers.footballguys.com/download2013/cs_p1b.htm

 
Hang 10 said:
Remember when Jaws said this guy could end up being the GOAT??

:lmao:
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Kaep is tied with Rodgers in QBR this year :shrug: ... Rodgers has played really well, just doesn't have crazy stats because they actually have a run game this year (100 yard rusher the last three games yahoo!!!).

Kaep is not playing nearly as bad as this thread seems to believe. He had a great week 1, and would have continued that passing success if Davis hadn't gotten hurt. Literally his only receiving option for a couple weeks was an aging Boldin. He can't throw AND catch the ball!

People bailing are going to look stupid in a few weeks. Davis looks like the hammy issue is under control and the 49ers have the 31st strength of schedule left. Kaep is going to score a lot of points.

 
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meyerj31 said:
Hang 10 said:
Remember when Jaws said this guy could end up being the GOAT??

:lmao:
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Kaep is tied with Rodgers in QBR this year :shrug: ... Rodgers has played really well, just doesn't have crazy stats because they actually have a run game this year (100 yard rusher the last three games yahoo!!!).

Kaep is not playing nearly as bad as this thread seems to believe. He had a great week 1, and would have continued that passing success if Davis hadn't gotten hurt. Literally his only receiving option for a couple weeks was an aging Boldin. He can't throw AND catch the ball!

People bailing are going to look stupid in a few weeks. Davis looks like the hammy issue is under control and the 49ers have the 31st strength of schedule left. Kaep is going to score a lot of points.
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So you think Ron's statement was reasonable?

He's had one good game this season. He's pretty much been abysmal since. He was 6 of 15 last week and outside long pass to Davis, he was 5 of 14 for 49 yards. And that was a game the 49ers dominated both sides of the ball.

ETA: Also, does anyone really care about espn's 5 minute old QBR stat? I sure don't.

 
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meyerj31 said:
Hang 10 said:
Remember when Jaws said this guy could end up being the GOAT??

:lmao:
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Kaep is tied with Rodgers in QBR this year :shrug: ... Rodgers has played really well, just doesn't have crazy stats because they actually have a run game this year (100 yard rusher the last three games yahoo!!!).

Kaep is not playing nearly as bad as this thread seems to believe. He had a great week 1, and would have continued that passing success if Davis hadn't gotten hurt. Literally his only receiving option for a couple weeks was an aging Boldin. He can't throw AND catch the ball!

People bailing are going to look stupid in a few weeks. Davis looks like the hammy issue is under control and the 49ers have the 31st strength of schedule left. Kaep is going to score a lot of points.
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This is all fantasy predicated. Right now he is a bad "fantasy" QB but I think as an NFL QB he is doing just fine and the Niners record speaks to that.

 
CentralPA said:
This is all fantasy predicated. Right now he is a bad "fantasy" QB but I think as an NFL QB he is doing just fine and the Niners record speaks to that.
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Exactly - said as much earlier in this thread. Not unlike guys like Troy Aikman, Joe Flacco, etc., who have benefited from strong running games and defenses.

He's a solid NFL quarterback, as was shown throughout the playoffs last year. From a fantasy standpoint, however, his team's philosophy may prevent him from being a quality fantasy QB unless he needs to run the ball a lot. And one can understand why the coaching staff doesn't want to risk injury by Kaep carrying the ball a ton when he's got a solid RB crew.

 
Hang 10 said:
meyerj31 said:
Hang 10 said:
Remember when Jaws said this guy could end up being the GOAT??

:lmao:
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Kaep is tied with Rodgers in QBR this year :shrug: ... Rodgers has played really well, just doesn't have crazy stats because they actually have a run game this year (100 yard rusher the last three games yahoo!!!).

Kaep is not playing nearly as bad as this thread seems to believe. He had a great week 1, and would have continued that passing success if Davis hadn't gotten hurt. Literally his only receiving option for a couple weeks was an aging Boldin. He can't throw AND catch the ball!

People bailing are going to look stupid in a few weeks. Davis looks like the hammy issue is under control and the 49ers have the 31st strength of schedule left. Kaep is going to score a lot of points.
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So you think Ron's statement was reasonable?

He's had one good game this season. He's pretty much been abysmal since. He was 6 of 15 last week and outside long pass to Davis, he was 5 of 14 for 49 yards. And that was a game the 49ers dominated both sides of the ball.

ETA: Also, does anyone really care about espn's 5 minute old QBR stat? I sure don't.
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As a fan of the team, I never buy into media hype, and found Jaws' statement something you can read off the 49er page at Bleacher Report from one of those hack wannabe sports writers.

The 49ers had offensive game spikes last season that fluctuated game to game last season, with either QB starting. Last season under Smith, they had a huge offensive game against BUF, then tanked against NYG and SEA. They won the SEA game with very little passing offense. Same thing happened with the move to Kaep, but Kaep was stretching defenses more. But his team then was more healthier and had Crabtree. Going forward past the rough part of the early sched, and maybe those game spikes will come back to the positive and the offense more consistent.

The 49ers are working towards a more explosive offense. It just takes a while to come from a confused mess of offense prior to Harbaugh, to then a workmanlike passing and an really effective run based offense in 2011, to now trying to transition into Kaep with not a whole lot around him as far as real consistent talent as targets, outside of two veteran ones. Delanie Walker may not have the best hands, but I think the offense misses him in certain ways, and his replacement in Vance McDonald hasn't broken out into being consistent.

I'm not saying Fantasy players should keep him. It's just that Fantasy players have to make faster decisions regarding their own teams, and any judgment on Kaep from a Fantasy perspective should be based just from that perspective.

QBR and passer rating are stats I never use either. I don't think those number reflects the offense as a whole. Passer rating doesn't figure in sacks. I look at sacks more than passer rating.

 
Anyone have the testicular fortitude to start him this week?

My other options are Foles or picking up Big Ben or Geno Smith.

He HAS to be due for a big game, right?

:scared:

 
NajehHejan said:
Anyone have the testicular fortitude to start him this week?

My other options are Foles or picking up Big Ben or Geno Smith.

He HAS to be due for a big game, right?

:scared:
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I would go with Foles if Vick is truly out.

Sure he is due for a big game. I am not as negative towards Kaep as many folks. I think he could produce if he had some weapons. Until I see Kaep operating at a high level with the weapons, he is on the bench.

 
NajehHejan said:
Anyone have the testicular fortitude to start him this week?

My other options are Foles or picking up Big Ben or Geno Smith.

He HAS to be due for a big game, right?

:scared:
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It's not testicular fortitude, but I am.

It's because I'm 0-5 and don't like to carry 2 QBs. If I had any of those 3 guys on the roster, I'd start them.

But he could have a fine week though. He won't have much trouble getting in the red zone and could certainly throw a couple of TDs.

 
pollardsvision said:
But he could have a fine week though. He won't have much trouble getting in the red zone and could certainly throw a couple of TDs.
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My plan at the moment is to start Henne over him in multiple leagues, but I'd concede if Shorts is out that could change my thinking.

Reason I responded to post above is Kaep's red zone usage was the straw that broke the camels back for me. After 5 games he's attempted only 14 passes in the red zone and only 6 inside the 10 yard line. As runner he's only ran 3 times inside the red zone and just once inside the 10. Inside the 5 yard line no runs and 2 pass attempts.

Maybe it's because I have both on the same team but it's why I alluded to something earlier in this thread that Kaepernick is like the Chris Johnson of QB's. His output is terrible but you are scared to sit him due to big game/big play and both guys are basically non-existent inside the 10 yard line and especially so inside the 5.

 
CentralPA said:
Thinking of starting Pryor over him despite the matchup with KC.
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Me too. At least he will throw & run and have an opportunity to score some points.

Kaep doesn't even get a chance too anymore.

 
menobrown said:
pollardsvision said:
But he could have a fine week though. He won't have much trouble getting in the red zone and could certainly throw a couple of TDs.
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My plan at the moment is to start Henne over him in multiple leagues, but I'd concede if Shorts is out that could change my thinking.

Reason I responded to post above is Kaep's red zone usage was the straw that broke the camels back for me. After 5 games he's attempted only 14 passes in the red zone and only 6 inside the 10 yard line. As runner he's only ran 3 times inside the red zone and just once inside the 10. Inside the 5 yard line no runs and 2 pass attempts.

Maybe it's because I have both on the same team but it's why I alluded to something earlier in this thread that Kaepernick is like the Chris Johnson of QB's. His output is terrible but you are scared to sit him due to big game/big play and both guys are basically non-existent inside the 10 yard line and especially so inside the 5.
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Interesting info. I had planned to start him hoping for the best but may reconsider.

 
menobrown said:
pollardsvision said:
But he could have a fine week though. He won't have much trouble getting in the red zone and could certainly throw a couple of TDs.
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My plan at the moment is to start Henne over him in multiple leagues, but I'd concede if Shorts is out that could change my thinking.

Reason I responded to post above is Kaep's red zone usage was the straw that broke the camels back for me. After 5 games he's attempted only 14 passes in the red zone and only 6 inside the 10 yard line. As runner he's only ran 3 times inside the red zone and just once inside the 10. Inside the 5 yard line no runs and 2 pass attempts.

Maybe it's because I have both on the same team but it's why I alluded to something earlier in this thread that Kaepernick is like the Chris Johnson of QB's. His output is terrible but you are scared to sit him due to big game/big play and both guys are basically non-existent inside the 10 yard line and especially so inside the 5.
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Hmmm. You might be on to something with Henne. I might pick Henne up this week and play him over Geno.

And screw you Kaepernick & Harbaugh that I just had to type that last sentence.

 
Ugh. What else is everyone doing with Kaep? I have him benched for Stafford, although if Megatron is out I may rethink that. It seems that waiver-wire QBs have just as much value as Kaep - which probably tells me where I should actually put him.

 
Tried all week to trade for a qb but couldn't get anything done. Sticking with kap one more week over ww options in foles and henne. Don't like foles matchup and that's a running team too and I can never forgive myself if I start henne and he sucks.

 
I have zero trust in this guy anymore. Starting him with little confidence over Bradford in week 6 despite his ineptness. If he throws up another stinker I'll be pushing for a trade, or maybe even consider Sam over him going forward. This guy has been a nightmare.

 
shadyridr said:
Tried all week to trade for a qb but couldn't get anything done. Sticking with kap one more week over ww options in foles and henne. Don't like foles matchup and that's a running team too and I can never forgive myself if I start henne and he sucks.
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If rostering both or cutting Kaep was an option, I'd absolutely start Henne over him and feel pretty confident about it.

 
Starting Pryor over him again. Kaep has no real WRs outside of Vernon Davis since Anquan is usually well covered, and he no longer runs the ball. To be honest, I should just drop Kaep, but I want to wait a while longer to see how much getting Manningham and Crabtree back boosts his value.

 
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Just when you see signs of life, he burns you with a INT. Three chances in the red zone and a whole lot of nothing...

 
I didn't hold true, and Foles off of waivers might win me my week (for all who care). My point is that, this guy is clearly a turd game manager, I ended my personal suffering with him after 5 weeks, and have never felt better about my chances.

 
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