What does the confederate flag mean to you? (1 Viewer)

[Henry Ford]

So Amazon didn't just remove the "battle flag", they've also removed the "stars and bars" (official Confederate flag) from sale. So I guess my question from this morning "would retailers remove that flag as well" has been answered......

They are also removing certain "Bonnie Blue" flags as well.

And Warner brothers will no longer make "General Lee" replica cars.

I hear a lot of toy companies stopped making Mammy and Little Sambo dolls, too. Where will it end?

 

[Henry Ford]

Has anyone made a ridiculous slippery slope argument yet?

Easy with the racial epithets there, GB.

I continue to be astounded at how you are both conservative and are able to have a sense of humor in a political discussion.

Not a conservative. Middle of the road.

Well, the road on the right, anyway.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Good look for South Carolina here

 

[TheIronSheik]

Has anyone made a ridiculous slippery slope argument yet?

Easy with the racial epithets there, GB.

I continue to be astounded at how you are both conservative and are able to have a sense of humor in a political discussion.

Not a conservative. Middle of the road.

Well, the road on the right, anyway.

There are definitely things I agree with that the right does, but there are just as many things the I completely disagree with for the right and side with the left. I do find it funny, I've been accused of being both on this board. And in real life. I would never align myself with one side and I'm always amazed that others can do so.

 

[TPW]

So Amazon didn't just remove the "battle flag", they've also removed the "stars and bars" (official Confederate flag) from sale. So I guess my question from this morning "would retailers remove that flag as well" has been answered......

They are also removing certain "Bonnie Blue" flags as well.

And Warner brothers will no longer make "General Lee" replica cars.

I hear a lot of toy companies stopped making Mammy and Little Sambo dolls, too. Where will it end?

Yet apparently Nazi regalia is just fine. More token symbolism from the modern leftist/corporatist alliance.

The stupid... it burns.

 

[timschochet]

So Amazon didn't just remove the "battle flag", they've also removed the "stars and bars" (official Confederate flag) from sale. So I guess my question from this morning "would retailers remove that flag as well" has been answered......

They are also removing certain "Bonnie Blue" flags as well.

And Warner brothers will no longer make "General Lee" replica cars.

I hear a lot of toy companies stopped making Mammy and Little Sambo dolls, too. Where will it end?

I used to eat at Sambo's all the time as kid. Better than Bob's Big Boy!

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

So Amazon didn't just remove the "battle flag", they've also removed the "stars and bars" (official Confederate flag) from sale. So I guess my question from this morning "would retailers remove that flag as well" has been answered......

They are also removing certain "Bonnie Blue" flags as well.

And Warner brothers will no longer make "General Lee" replica cars.

I hear a lot of toy companies stopped making Mammy and Little Sambo dolls, too. Where will it end?

I remember a restaurant chain called Little Black Sambo's based on the character of the same name. My school library had that book. To the best of my recollection the chain went out of business in the late 60's. My family never ate there.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

The Sambo's story is interesting. The name was a conjoining of the names of the two founders, and originally had nothing to do with the book. Word association eventually contributed to the demise of the chain, not that the chain did not, for a time, try to take marketing advantage of the association with the storybook.

 

[Gr00vus]

I used to eat at Sambo's all the time as kid. Better than Bob's Big Boy!

Tim, now you're wrong about a lot of stuff + 1.

 

[Fennis]

So Amazon didn't just remove the "battle flag", they've also removed the "stars and bars" (official Confederate flag) from sale. So I guess my question from this morning "would retailers remove that flag as well" has been answered......

They are also removing certain "Bonnie Blue" flags as well.

And Warner brothers will no longer make "General Lee" replica cars.

I hear a lot of toy companies stopped making Mammy and Little Sambo dolls, too. Where will it end?

Yet apparently Nazi regalia is just fine. More token symbolism from the modern leftist/corporatist alliance.

The stupid... it burns.

not sure why you are complaining, where else will you buy your Nazi gear if Amazon bans it?

 

[Plorfu]

Honestly, to me the flag stands for hot summer days by the lake, drinking some cold beers with friends. It means girls in tight shorts and fishing. It stands for Southern hospitality and the best damn food on the planet. The flag reminds me of my forefathers who risked life and limb to protect their land and their ideals. They thought nothing of the political reasons behind their actions: no, they did it for family and loyalty. So, the flag reminds of these things. Oh, and it also reminds of me of the time we got to use human beings as shackled meat machines and sometimes murdered them. Also, sweet tea.

 

[TheIronSheik]

One of my favorite thing about these types of arguments is how people forget certain facts. The South was bad because they wanted slavery. Forget that slavery was cool for everyone not much before that. Forget that the north actually liked the South having slavery because it helped their bottom line in textiles.

It's so easy to think the South were these terrible human beings who did such horrible things.

 

[IC FBGCav]

Honestly, to me the flag stands for hot summer days by the lake, drinking some cold beers with friends. It means girls in tight shorts and fishing. It stands for Southern hospitality and the best damn food on the planet. The flag reminds me of my forefathers who risked life and limb to protect their land and their ideals. They thought nothing of the political reasons behind their actions: no, they did it for family and loyalty. So, the flag reminds of these things. Oh, and it also reminds of me of the time we got to use human beings as shackled meat machines and sometimes murdered them. Also, sweet tea.

Yep and many southerns and South Carolinian's have ancestors that were treated like that. That's why it should go.

 

[Christo]

Good try there D. Nobody's buying it.

In most peoples' worlds when an employer comes out with a 5 hour training course for all Department Heads, referring to microaggressions as "racism" and "assaults", with a portion of the training dedicated to "interrupting" microaggressions, that usually corresponds to "you can't say it". But congrats on the mental gymnastics, and somehow convincing yourself that you were right and I was wrong. It brings back memories of an Abnormal Psychology course I took in college.

The stuff you're referring to is about deans, department chairs and faculty, right? If so, that's a pretty small minority of the individuals who inhabit a campus college daily. I took your original statement that "you can no longer say 'America is the land of opportunity' on a college campus in California" to be a far broader assertion than one limited to department faculty in the course of their classroom instruction.

Sorry dude. Not my job to spoonfeed all you fine Liberal minds. We talked about it at length in the other thread I referred to. The training may have been given to faculty only, but the instructions on how to police it (or as they call it "interrupt") apply to students as well. The general point stands - microaggressions, including "America is the land of opportunity", are formally defined by UCLA as "an act of systemic racism" and are about as welcome as a fart in an elevator.

Wait - you're not allowed to fart in an elevator?

It's better to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission.

 

[GrandpaRox]

The flag means less than nothing to me but I defended it because at its core meaning it was a very important and historic symbol.

At this point in time the symbolism had been trashed by ignorant people. Just like some people believe all Muslims are terrorists.

Each thought is as ignorant as the other.

It is unfortunate to history but the confederate flag needs to be retired from use in the USA.

How so?

If any historic item is banished it is a loss to humanity. You okay with ISIS tearing down christian monuments and religious figures. Even if it a part of history that means evil to you, it is a part of this countries history nevertheless.

Banished, huh? So anything a state doesn't fly from its capitol has been banished?

Why are you arguing with me,I said get rid of it? You don't understand history that is your loss shows your shallowness.

 

[Christo]

Miss, you're gonna have to remove that.

 

[Henry Ford]

Has anyone made a ridiculous slippery slope argument yet?

Easy with the racial epithets there, GB.

I continue to be astounded at how you are both conservative and are able to have a sense of humor in a political discussion.

Not a conservative. Middle of the road.

Well, the road on the right, anyway.

There are definitely things I agree with that the right does, but there are just as many things the I completely disagree with for the right and side with the left. I do find it funny, I've been accused of being both on this board. And in real life. I would never align myself with one side and I'm always amazed that others can do so.

I was just trying to be funny.

 

[GrandpaRox]

TPW is right. Neither Ramsey Hunt Experience nor Tobias have the intellectual ability to counter his arguments.

I also lack the intellectual capacity to counter the arguments that a chimpanzee makes when he smears his feces against the wall. So I usually just point and laugh.

I expect your mom would make you clean it up

 

[Henry Ford]

TPW is right. Neither Ramsey Hunt Experience nor Tobias have the intellectual ability to counter his arguments.

I also lack the intellectual capacity to counter the arguments that a chimpanzee makes when he smears his feces against the wall. So I usually just point and laugh.

I expect your mom would make you clean it up

Zing! RHE, does your mom run your Constitutional law practice?? Man, he got you.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I genuinely don't understand the debate over "slippery slope" stuff in this thread. So what if there really is a slippery slope and we end up renaming all roads and buildings named after confederate officials? What is the downside to this? That people have to learn new street names? The point of slippery slope arguments is to show that if we start down this road, things will eventually culminate into something obviously stupid and unreasonable. Renaming stuff to stop honoring confederates isn't stupid or unreasonable.

 

[Henry Ford]

I genuinely don't understand the debate over "slippery slope" stuff in this thread. So what if there really is a slippery slope and we end up renaming all roads and buildings named after confederate officials? What is the downside to this? That people have to learn new street names? The point of slippery slope arguments is to show that if we start down this road, things will eventually culminate into something obviously stupid and unreasonable. Renaming stuff to stop honoring confederates isn't stupid or unreasonable.

Because, you know. History.

 

[Henry Ford]

I mean, State's rights.

 

[Henry Ford]

Sorry, I mean something something "not slavery."

 

[IvanKaramazov]

One of my favorite thing about these types of arguments is how people forget certain facts. The South was bad because they wanted slavery. Forget that slavery was cool for everyone not much before that. Forget that the north actually liked the South having slavery because it helped their bottom line in textiles.

It's so easy to think the South were these terrible human beings who did such horrible things.

By modern standards, pretty much everybody was terrible back then. It wouldn't surprise me if, 150 years from now, folks looked back on us similarly.

I'm not arguing for judging everyone by today's climate. Thomas Jefferson, for example, deserves to be celebrated despite the fact that he owned slaves. And even despite the fact that YF23 hates him with the heat of a thousand suns. No issues there. But let's not celebrate the leaders who fought against this nation and who planted their flag on the side of human bondage when push came to shove. That's not really asking too much or setting an unreasonably high bar.

 

[Otis]

It's a little bit like the guy in our dynasty league who lost in the finals about 12 years ago and to this today proudly tells everyone "yeah but in '03 I was in the finals!"

 

[jon_mx]

To me, Daisy Dukes stand for slavery. Once had a girl friend who wore them and I would do anything she asked.

 

[TPW]

So Amazon didn't just remove the "battle flag", they've also removed the "stars and bars" (official Confederate flag) from sale. So I guess my question from this morning "would retailers remove that flag as well" has been answered......

They are also removing certain "Bonnie Blue" flags as well.

And Warner brothers will no longer make "General Lee" replica cars.

I hear a lot of toy companies stopped making Mammy and Little Sambo dolls, too. Where will it end?

Yet apparently Nazi regalia is just fine. More token symbolism from the modern leftist/corporatist alliance.

The stupid... it burns.

not sure why you are complaining, where else will you buy your Nazi gear if Amazon bans it?

Ad hominem attack #4. I'll give you guys credit for one thing, you're nothing if not predictable. Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Another point. http://thoughtcatalog.com/blag-dahlia/2015/06/fck-the-confederate-flag/

 

[Otis]

Another point. http://thoughtcatalog.com/blag-dahlia/2015/06/fck-the-confederate-flag/

Nice.

 

[tdoss]

So, while at the beech this weekend, I start seeing the headlines in the papers about removing the "confederate flag" from gov't grounds etc. I got to wondering. If they removed it and replaced it with this, would anyone get upset?

They probably wouldn't know what the #### it is.

I tend to agree...yet, all these racist speeches that were made during that time were made while that flag was flying. It's staggering, how little we know about our own history when you think about it.

Seems like a good time to erase more of it

Even if it could be erased, I'm not sure that's a good idea. I think it's important that we learn our history and we embrace the problems we've gone through. That's the only way we can progress and grow. Of course, I don't have to have a flag flying to learn about it, so I really don't have an issue with taking it down. If this little exercise has taught us anything, it's that it was short sighted to not have a "half mast" option at the memorial. Had that been the case, we wouldn't be talking about this flag in any sort of substantive manner today.

I'm pretty certain that we'd still be talking about it even if they'd been flying it at half-mast.

I'd say that if this exercise has taught us anything it's that it's pretty silly to fly a Confederate flag of any kind, regardless of how recognizable it may be to the average person, because the Confederacy was really really bad and embracing it should make you feel bad.

And that is really what it comes down to for you guys, isn't it?

I think the Confederate flag is an anachronism but whether or not someone displays it should have absolutely nothing to do with how they feel. As a matter of fact, that is the absolute worst possible justification for its removal. If we're going to go down the road of removing items from public display on the grounds that they disturb someone's emotional state then it is only a matter of time before the American flag itself is taken down because it is culturally offensive to illegal immigrants.

California already has a problem with students having anything involving the American Flag. School districts have actually banned it and it's been upheld.

University of Irvine student council attempted to ban it from the campus.

It's only a matter of time, really.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

California already has a problem with students having anything involving the American Flag. School districts have actually banned it and it's been upheld.

University of Irvine student council attempted to ban it from the campus.

It's only a matter of time, really.

OH BULL ####.

If you're talking about the 2010 Live Oak deal it was one incident at one school and it was about t-shirts (and I disagree with the 9th's decision) and the entire thing was a fuster cluck. Not to mention that there were some very specific circumstances in this case.

And the Irvine thing is a joke too. One small group of jagoff college kids (who will be embarrassed by this for the rest of their lives) do not represent California at all.

 

[tdoss]

California already has a problem with students having anything involving the American Flag. School districts have actually banned it and it's been upheld.

University of Irvine student council attempted to ban it from the campus.

It's only a matter of time, really.

OH BULL ####.

If you're talking about the 2010 Live Oak deal it was one incident at one school and it was about t-shirts (and I disagree with the 9th's decision) and the entire thing was a fuster cluck. Not to mention that there were some very specific circumstances in this case.

And the Irvine thing is a joke too. One small group of jagoff college kids (who will be embarrassed by this for the rest of their lives) do not represent California at all.

I apologize if I've caught you after a long day of discussing this topic and therefore am catching you in mid-froth...but I'm not really sure what set you off to start cussing at me. Can you tell me what was so inaccurate about my post?

A public school district in California banned students from wearing the American Flag.

The Ninth District upheld the decision.

The Supreme Court recently denied hearing the argument...so...it's further upheld the decision.

And UCI was not just some jagoff kids...it was the school's legislative council.

So...you've got kids learning from K-12 that the flag is offensive and then college as well.

If you need further examples of what is and is not representative of California...two different schools that my own kids have gone and currently go to have also banned the American Flag as apparel especially during May because it's said to upset the hispanic students during Cinco de Mayo.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

California already has a problem with students having anything involving the American Flag. School districts have actually banned it and it's been upheld.

University of Irvine student council attempted to ban it from the campus.

It's only a matter of time, really.

OH BULL ####.

If you're talking about the 2010 Live Oak deal it was one incident at one school and it was about t-shirts (and I disagree with the 9th's decision) and the entire thing was a fuster cluck. Not to mention that there were some very specific circumstances in this case.

And the Irvine thing is a joke too. One small group of jagoff college kids (who will be embarrassed by this for the rest of their lives) do not represent California at all.

I apologize if I've caught you after a long day of discussing this topic and therefore am catching you in mid-froth...but I'm not really sure what set you off to start cussing at me. Can you tell me what was so inaccurate about my post?

A public school district in California banned students from wearing the American Flag.

The Ninth District upheld the decision.

The Supreme Court recently denied hearing the argument...so...it's further upheld the decision.

And UCI was not just some jagoff kids...it was the school's legislative council.

So...you've got kids learning from K-12 that the flag is offensive and then college as well.

If you need further examples of what is and is not representative of California...two different schools that my own kids have gone and currently go to have also banned the American Flag as apparel especially during May because it's said to upset the hispanic students during Cinco de Mayo.

Good lord. Do some research before you start scribbling.

 

[tdoss]

California already has a problem with students having anything involving the American Flag. School districts have actually banned it and it's been upheld.

University of Irvine student council attempted to ban it from the campus.

It's only a matter of time, really.

OH BULL ####.

If you're talking about the 2010 Live Oak deal it was one incident at one school and it was about t-shirts (and I disagree with the 9th's decision) and the entire thing was a fuster cluck. Not to mention that there were some very specific circumstances in this case.

And the Irvine thing is a joke too. One small group of jagoff college kids (who will be embarrassed by this for the rest of their lives) do not represent California at all.

I apologize if I've caught you after a long day of discussing this topic and therefore am catching you in mid-froth...but I'm not really sure what set you off to start cussing at me. Can you tell me what was so inaccurate about my post?

A public school district in California banned students from wearing the American Flag.

The Ninth District upheld the decision.

The Supreme Court recently denied hearing the argument...so...it's further upheld the decision.

And UCI was not just some jagoff kids...it was the school's legislative council.

So...you've got kids learning from K-12 that the flag is offensive and then college as well.

If you need further examples of what is and is not representative of California...two different schools that my own kids have gone and currently go to have also banned the American Flag as apparel especially during May because it's said to upset the hispanic students during Cinco de Mayo.

Good lord. Do some research before you start scribbling.

Damn...guy.

Is this how you normally discuss things on this board?

I've asked you point blank what I've said that is not factual...and this is how you respond?

You seem a tad bit too invested in this particular topic...I suggest you take a nap or hug a cat or something.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

California already has a problem with students having anything involving the American Flag. School districts have actually banned it and it's been upheld.

University of Irvine student council attempted to ban it from the campus.

It's only a matter of time, really.

OH BULL ####.

If you're talking about the 2010 Live Oak deal it was one incident at one school and it was about t-shirts (and I disagree with the 9th's decision) and the entire thing was a fuster cluck. Not to mention that there were some very specific circumstances in this case.

And the Irvine thing is a joke too. One small group of jagoff college kids (who will be embarrassed by this for the rest of their lives) do not represent California at all.

I apologize if I've caught you after a long day of discussing this topic and therefore am catching you in mid-froth...but I'm not really sure what set you off to start cussing at me. Can you tell me what was so inaccurate about my post?

A public school district in California banned students from wearing the American Flag.

The Ninth District upheld the decision.

The Supreme Court recently denied hearing the argument...so...it's further upheld the decision.

And UCI was not just some jagoff kids...it was the school's legislative council.

So...you've got kids learning from K-12 that the flag is offensive and then college as well.

If you need further examples of what is and is not representative of California...two different schools that my own kids have gone and currently go to have also banned the American Flag as apparel especially during May because it's said to upset the hispanic students during Cinco de Mayo.

Good lord. Do some research before you start scribbling.

Damn...guy.

Is this how you normally discuss things on this board?

I've asked you point blank what I've said that is not factual...and this is how you respond?

You seem a tad bit too invested in this particular topic...I suggest you take a nap or hug a cat or something.

You're making gross generalizations...sorry if you don't like to be called out.

 

[BassNBrew]

It's a little bit like the guy in our dynasty league who lost in the finals about 12 years ago and to this today proudly tells everyone "yeah but in '03 I was in the finals!"

Just pat coach Oats on the top of the head and tell him he'll rise again.

 

[timschochet]

The UCI thing was pretty short-lived. It was overturned by the student executive committee almost immediately. It didn't represent a majority of students, or even a significant minority. A few bozos in the social ecology department that got on the legislative council. Not the proudest moment for my alma mater, but the conservative press, led by Fox News, went bat#### crazy and really made a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

It should be said that people in Murrieta, California HATE the American flag. It's a total hotspot for anti-Americans. The parents of children in their public school system are the main culprits.

 

[WetDream]

So Amazon didn't just remove the "battle flag", they've also removed the "stars and bars" (official Confederate flag) from sale. So I guess my question from this morning "would retailers remove that flag as well" has been answered......

They are also removing certain "Bonnie Blue" flags as well.

And Warner brothers will no longer make "General Lee" replica cars.

I hear a lot of toy companies stopped making Mammy and Little Sambo dolls, too. Where will it end?

Yet apparently Nazi regalia is just fine. More token symbolism from the modern leftist/corporatist alliance.

The stupid... it burns.

Great post, TWP. Leftism (Liberalism) is facist to the core, in all aspects. Its a control freak ideology, to the point of killing millions to maintain itself. It is a magnet for the irresponsible and outright absurd.

Wholesale purges are Leftism's default position against all normal, independent modes of thought. The Red and Brown propaganda campaigns that were designed to stamp out every vestige of intellectual diversity, and which culminated in the purges of the 1930s, do not differ substantially from today's witch hunts, which relentlessly pursue "racists, rapists, misogynists, climate deniers" and ideological transgressors of every stripe. All that is lacking thus far is a Gulag Archipelago of punishment camps. We are already well on the way to a police State, a modern counterpart of the NKVD in the form of IRS, FBI, ATF, and ICE agencies, all armed to the teeth, locked and loaded against American citizens deviating from Leftist orthodoxy. This mental world in the Age of Obama is ringed with barbed wire and patrolled by ideological riflemen in greatcoats and jackboots that do not sleep atop their towers and turrets.

 

[rockaction]

So now being worried about banning the national flag on national soil in the hotbeds of immigration and higher learning is simply overreaction on the right's part. Got it. Just some dumb outliers who used the Ninth Federal Circuit Court's decision to do so. Sounds like a total red herring.

Also, I agree with certain people who are flummoxed about debating slippery slopes. It's dead as a logical fallacy. Why even debate?

 

[Leviathan]

So Amazon didn't just remove the "battle flag", they've also removed the "stars and bars" (official Confederate flag) from sale. So I guess my question from this morning "would retailers remove that flag as well" has been answered......

They are also removing certain "Bonnie Blue" flags as well.

And Warner brothers will no longer make "General Lee" replica cars.

I hear a lot of toy companies stopped making Mammy and Little Sambo dolls, too. Where will it end?

Yet apparently Nazi regalia is just fine. More token symbolism from the modern leftist/corporatist alliance.

The stupid... it burns.

Great post, TWP. Leftism (Liberalism) is facist to the core, in all aspects. Its a control freak ideology, to the point of killing millions to maintain itself. It is a magnet for the irresponsible and outright absurd.

Wholesale purges are Leftism's default position against all normal, independent modes of thought. The Red and Brown propaganda campaigns that were designed to stamp out every vestige of intellectual diversity, and which culminated in the purges of the 1930s, do not differ substantially from today's witch hunts, which relentlessly pursue "racists, rapists, misogynists, climate deniers" and ideological transgressors of every stripe. All that is lacking thus far is a Gulag Archipelago of punishment camps. We are already well on the way to a police State, a modern counterpart of the NKVD in the form of IRS, FBI, ATF, and ICE agencies, all armed to the teeth, locked and loaded against American citizens deviating from Leftist orthodoxy. This mental world in the Age of Obama is ringed with barbed wire and patrolled by ideological riflemen in greatcoats and jackboots that do not sleep atop their towers and turrets.

I laughed.Don't get me wrong, I genuinely appreciated your post. I do not possess, nor do I attempt to "type" with that level of eloquence.

That being said, I read Gulag Archipelago in its native tongue.

Tedious, to say the least.

I know...LOOK AT ME!

 

[rockaction]

Jefferson High vs. Madison High.

Wallpapers of hatred.

Sincererly,

Those Untroubled By Slippery Slopes and the United States (!) Courts Ninth Judicial District

eta* Not safe to display American flag in American high school

[T]he situation in the school seems very bad. Somehow, we’ve reached the point that students can’t safely display the American flag in an American school, because of a fear that other students will attack them for it — and the school feels unable to prevent such attacks (by punishing the threateners and the attackers, and by teaching students tolerance for other students’ speech). Something is badly wrong, whether such an incident happens on May 5 or any other day.

And this is especially so because behavior that gets rewarded gets repeated. The school taught its students a simple lesson: If you dislike speech and want it suppressed, then you can get what you want by threatening violence against the speakers. The school will cave in, the speakers will be shut up, and you and your ideology will win. When thuggery pays, the result is more thuggery. Is that the education we want our students to be getting? - Eugene Volokh

 

[rockaction]

So Amazon didn't just remove the "battle flag", they've also removed the "stars and bars" (official Confederate flag) from sale. So I guess my question from this morning "would retailers remove that flag as well" has been answered......

They are also removing certain "Bonnie Blue" flags as well.

And Warner brothers will no longer make "General Lee" replica cars.

I hear a lot of toy companies stopped making Mammy and Little Sambo dolls, too. Where will it end?

Yet apparently Nazi regalia is just fine. More token symbolism from the modern leftist/corporatist alliance.

The stupid... it burns.

Great post, TWP. Leftism (Liberalism) is facist to the core, in all aspects. Its a control freak ideology, to the point of killing millions to maintain itself. It is a magnet for the irresponsible and outright absurd.

Wholesale purges are Leftism's default position against all normal, independent modes of thought. The Red and Brown propaganda campaigns that were designed to stamp out every vestige of intellectual diversity, and which culminated in the purges of the 1930s, do not differ substantially from today's witch hunts, which relentlessly pursue "racists, rapists, misogynists, climate deniers" and ideological transgressors of every stripe. All that is lacking thus far is a Gulag Archipelago of punishment camps. We are already well on the way to a police State, a modern counterpart of the NKVD in the form of IRS, FBI, ATF, and ICE agencies, all armed to the teeth, locked and loaded against American citizens deviating from Leftist orthodoxy. This mental world in the Age of Obama is ringed with barbed wire and patrolled by ideological riflemen in greatcoats and jackboots that do not sleep atop their towers and turrets.

I laughed.

I almost did. Then I read TPW's post, and I simply marveled at Wet Dream's eloquence and almost preternatural ability to mischaracterize another poster's position all while linking to a reading list that simply included a book about recognizing one's white privilege in America.

Oh, that Wet Dream!

 

[Buckfast 1]

So Amazon didn't just remove the "battle flag", they've also removed the "stars and bars" (official Confederate flag) from sale. So I guess my question from this morning "would retailers remove that flag as well" has been answered......

They are also removing certain "Bonnie Blue" flags as well.

And Warner brothers will no longer make "General Lee" replica cars.

I hear a lot of toy companies stopped making Mammy and Little Sambo dolls, too. Where will it end?

Yet apparently Nazi regalia is just fine. More token symbolism from the modern leftist/corporatist alliance.

The stupid... it burns.

Great post, TWP. Leftism (Liberalism) is facist to the core, in all aspects. Its a control freak ideology, to the point of killing millions to maintain itself. It is a magnet for the irresponsible and outright absurd.

Wholesale purges are Leftism's default position against all normal, independent modes of thought. The Red and Brown propaganda campaigns that were designed to stamp out every vestige of intellectual diversity, and which culminated in the purges of the 1930s, do not differ substantially from today's witch hunts, which relentlessly pursue "racists, rapists, misogynists, climate deniers" and ideological transgressors of every stripe. All that is lacking thus far is a Gulag Archipelago of punishment camps. We are already well on the way to a police State, a modern counterpart of the NKVD in the form of IRS, FBI, ATF, and ICE agencies, all armed to the teeth, locked and loaded against American citizens deviating from Leftist orthodoxy. This mental world in the Age of Obama is ringed with barbed wire and patrolled by ideological riflemen in greatcoats and jackboots that do not sleep atop their towers and turrets.

HIDE YOUR GUNS AND BIBLES, THE LEFTISTS (LIBERALS) ARE COMING!!!

 

[rockaction]

HIDE YOUR GUNS AND BIBLES, THE LEFTISTS (LIBERALS) ARE COMING!!!

Better hop on that chain mail about this one. Might go viral.

 

[tdoss]

It should be said that people in Murrieta, California HATE the American flag. It's a total hotspot for anti-Americans. The parents of children in their public school system are the main culprits.

Good Lord brother...you're quickly unhinged aren't you?

If I said "Some California schools have banned the American flag..."

Would that somehow appease your delicate, quickly enraged sensibilities?

 

[tdoss]

The UCI thing was pretty short-lived. It was overturned by the student executive committee almost immediately. It didn't represent a majority of students, or even a significant minority. A few bozos in the social ecology department that got on the legislative council. Not the proudest moment for my alma mater, but the conservative press, led by Fox News, went bat#### crazy and really made a mountain out of a molehill.

Sure...I was only citing it as an example for how the American flag is being deemed more and moreso as some antagonistic, offensive banner.

Does it not make you scratch your head even for a moment that public schools have banned it?

I'm just saying it's a very strange, weird time we live in...

Everyone is seemingly offended ALL the time...about everything.

I really think people need to unplug for a few days a week...just to disconnect from all of the outrage and constant disturbing imagery and discussions that make people fly off the hinges over something that otherwise common sense would've reigned supreme over.

It just seems like there's no reasoned discussion about things anymore...just flying off the handle, pissed off...0-100mph hair triggers over everything.

People can't possibly stay in this constant state of agitation without something breaking.

 

[rockaction]

It seems odd that your research is correct and that it's been embarrassingly responded to in really "nuanced" ways.

The fact is:

American flags are being banned during certain times on the grounds of at least one public high school, possibly more, and that a public university attempted to do the same.

The Ninth District Circuit Court upheld the high school ban because the school ​couldn't protect the wearers of the American flag

You're (tdoss) getting yelled at for pointing it out.

So…it sounds stupid.

Well, it is. It's as dumb as the day is long. I'm a notorious right-winger on the board, but no troglodyte. Let the others defend this occurrence.

I think people really need to back up, think about the left and symbols, about the confederate flag and wallpaper, about the American flag and hostility toward it, and come back with maybe a more intelligent diagnosis about symbols, the left, free speech, public displays, slippery slopes, and bans.

 

[TobiasFunke]

The UCI thing was pretty short-lived. It was overturned by the student executive committee almost immediately. It didn't represent a majority of students, or even a significant minority. A few bozos in the social ecology department that got on the legislative council. Not the proudest moment for my alma mater, but the conservative press, led by Fox News, went bat#### crazy and really made a mountain out of a molehill.

Sure...I was only citing it as an example for how the American flag is being deemed more and moreso as some antagonistic, offensive banner.

Does it not make you scratch your head even for a moment that public schools have banned it?

I'm just saying it's a very strange, weird time we live in...

Everyone is seemingly offended ALL the time...about everything.

I really think people need to unplug for a few days a week...just to disconnect from all of the outrage and constant disturbing imagery and discussions that make people fly off the hinges over something that otherwise common sense would've reigned supreme over.

It just seems like there's no reasoned discussion about things anymore...just flying off the handle, pissed off...0-100mph hair triggers over everything.

People can't possibly stay in this constant state of agitation without something breaking.

Anecdotal incidents like this has been happening for decades. The early 90s were PC-crazy, more so than the current era probably. Remember "womyn"? That was ages ago. The only reason you're hearing a lot more about it now is the proliferation of right wing blogs/news programming and social media.

The end product will be the same as it always is: reason will win out, the lines will be drawn where they should be drawn. The American flag will continue to fly pretty much everywhere. The confederate flag will not. Some names that are clear references to confederate leaders may get changed, names that are simply references to founding fathers who owned slaves will not. The world will keep on spinning, and we'll keep making reasonable progress on actual social issues.

 

[Sabertooth]

To me it's this.

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