It is what it is said:
For those here defending or promoting the use of the Confederate flag, may I ask you a question or two?
Would you call a black person a n#####?
If you answer no to this question, would you please elaborate as to why you would not call a black person a n#####?
I'm southern and I don't fly, wave, or wear the Confederate flag, but I am not against the flag being flown at Southern Institutions, and the like. I have the sense to know that the flag is a symbol of Southern heritage and pride. It's a shame that some southern backwoods heehaws have used it in a racist manner, tarnishing the the positive southern spirit that the flag respresents. It's also a shame some people only want to focus on the negative symbolism that some undesireable people stamped on the flag. It's as if they/you are unwilling to understand or accept the true southern heritage for which the flag stands.
Most of the Confederate soldiers didn't even own slaves.
There were also a lot of black Confederate soldiers, and the Confederacy was more integrated than the Union. When Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863, all the slaves in the Confederate States were freed. The Federal Union didn't free all it's slaves until the 14th Amendment in 1868.
Discussing the Confederate flag is always futile.
Are you kidding me? You are actually gonna sit here and try to imply that these black confederate soldiers were soldiers of choice? Un-friggin-believable! What planet are you from?
Here are some facts...
http://www.americanrevwar.homestead.com/fi...ar/slavery.html
By the mid-18th century, American slavery had acquired a number of distinctive features. More than 90 percent of American slaves lived in the South where conditions contrasted sharply with those to both the south and north. In Caribbean colonies, such as Jamaica and Saint-Domingue (present-day Haiti), blacks outnumbered whites by more than ten to one and slaves often lived on huge estates with hundreds of other slaves. In the Northern colonies, blacks were few and slaves were typically held in small groups of less than five. The South, by contrast, was neither overwhelmingly white nor overwhelmingly black: slaves formed a large minority of the population, and most slaves lived on small and medium-sized holdings containing between 5 and 50 slaves. Slaves in the North were typically held in small numbers, and most served as domestic servants.
Only in New York did they form more than 10 percent of the population, and in the North as a whole less than 5 percent of the inhabitants were slaves. Slaves constituted about 40 percent of the population of the Southern colonies, with the highest concentration in South Carolina, where more than half the people were slaves.
The last third of the 18th century saw the first widespread questioning of slavery by white Americans. This questioning increased after the American Revolution (1775-1783), which sharply increased egalitarian thinking. The contradiction between the rhetoric of documents such as the Declaration of Independence and the reality of slavery was apparent. Many leaders of the new government, including George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, while slave holders, were profoundly troubled by slavery. Although leery of rash actions, they undertook a series of cautious acts that they thought would lead to gradual abolition of slavery.
These acts included measures in all states north of Delaware to abolish slavery. A few states did away with slavery immediately. More typical were gradual emancipation acts, such as that passed by Pennsylvania in 1780, whereby all children born to slaves in the future would be freed when they became 28 years old. Two significant measures dated from 1787. First, the Northwest Ordinance barred slavery from the Northwest Territory, an area that included much of what is now the upper Midwest. Second, a compromise reached at the Constitutional Convention allowed the Congress of the United States to outlaw the importation of slaves in 1808.
Meanwhile, a number of states passed acts making it easier for individuals to free their slaves.
Hundreds of slave owners, especially in the upper South, set some or all of their slaves free. In addition, tens of thousands of slaves acted on their own, taking advantage of wartime disruption to escape from their masters. As a result, the number of free blacks, which had been tiny before the Revolution, surged during the last quarter of the 18th century.
Nevertheless, the Revolutionary-era challenge to slavery was successful only in the North, where the investment in slaves was small. The antislavery movement never made much progress in Georgia and South Carolina, where planters imported tens of thousands of Africans to beat the cut-off of the slave trade in 1808. In the upper South, sentiment in favor of equality faded, along with revolutionary enthusiasm, in the 1790s and 1800s. The end of slave imports did not undermine slavery as it did elsewhere because the slave population in the United States was self-reproducing. The ultimate result of the first antislavery movement was to leave slavery a newly sectional institution, on the road to abolition throughout the North but largely intact in the South.
at ACP defending the "Confederate Flag = Racism" side of the argument, when I know....I just know, just as sure as I am sitting here.....I know the guy in his avatar sleeps under a layer of blankets made of Confederate Flags.
I blame seperatist southerners, jews, blacks, and several other groups to be named later.
It boils down to one question: If the person flying the flag does not intend to cause insult to anyone, is he a racist? By your argument, yes, he is. By that logic, if someone.. anyone.. happens to be offended by me wearing my white sneakers on MLK Jr day, then I'm a racist. That just doesn't fly with me.Grow some thick skin already.
Hey Reb! Why don't yawl c'mon back and burn Chambersburg again? It needs it!
Thats all Im going to say on this debate.
