what happened to the shark pool? (1 Viewer)

[Leroy Hoard]

Things will pick up once The Tebow gets on the field.

This is what is wrong with the Shark Pool. Knowledgable posters like this disappear. The Forum Moderator/Henchmen put a hit on these guys and they are never seen again.

Yet the Shark Pool manages to hang on to those that keep posting well thought out in-depth analysis like this:

Tim Tebow He throws more like a girl than a girl does. Anybody still pimping "The Tebow" has lost all credability in regards to their football knowledge.

Perhaps you are right - but, personally, I respect the opinion more of someone who can correctly spell "credibility" and is able to make a point without using six emoticons.

Is that all you got ####wanger.

lol

 

[ratbast]

I have said it before and I will say it again...go try the others. The Shark Pool blows them all away.

 

[FF Ninja]

The downside would be having to jump back and forth constantly between two forums to be able to read the football related topics that are now found all in one place. And they would probably have to add a full time moderator to the staff just to move the football related threads that should not be on "fantasy talk only" board and vice versa.I don't see why everyone else should be inconvenienced because a handful of people can't take a few seconds to skip a few thread topics.

It's not just a few thread topics. It seems like at least half of the topics are worthless drivel. And this contributes to the overall atmosphere here. It's hard to get quality dialogues going when the forum is smattered with this crap. You think information driven people are going to want to wade through these trivial topics? You think they want to converse with the people who are interested in these topics? It's like saying all printed news should go in one place and it wouldn't detract from the experience. Can you imagine the wall street journal being combined with a tabloid? Just tell people to skip over what they don't like. So while it may inconvenience people like you who are interested in both forums, it would still improve your experience as the fantasy football forum would actually be a much better resource than the SP is now. And the gibberish forum would have less people looking down on the asinine topics and conversations that go on in it.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

You think information driven people are going to want to wade through these trivial topics? You think they want to converse with the people who are interested in these topics?

If all the "information driven people" are somewhere else, find out where that place is and become a member there. It's probably bubbling over with exactly the kinds of things you want to talk about and none of the things you don't want to talk about.

 

[Two Deep]

Things will pick up once The Tebow gets on the field.

This is what is wrong with the Shark Pool. Knowledgable posters like this disappear. The Forum Moderator/Henchmen put a hit on these guys and they are never seen again.

Yet the Shark Pool manages to hang on to those that keep posting well thought out in-depth analysis like this:

Tim Tebow He throws more like a girl than a girl does. Anybody still pimping "The Tebow" has lost all credability in regards to their football knowledge.

Perhaps you are right - but, personally, I respect the opinion more of someone who can correctly spell "credibility" and is able to make a point without using six emoticons.

Is that all you got ####wanger.

See that is what is wrong right here. The feminine, over-sensitive type get their panties in a wad. I feel sorry for you no fun people. Is your life that rigid that you can't read thru some fun bull#### to get the precious information you seek from a "Fantasy Football Board".

 

[SlaX]

The downside would be having to jump back and forth constantly between two forums to be able to read the football related topics that are now found all in one place.

And they would probably have to add a full time moderator to the staff just to move the football related threads that should not be on "fantasy talk only" board and vice versa.

I don't see why everyone else should be inconvenienced because a handful of people can't take a few seconds to skip a few thread topics.

It's not just a few thread topics. It seems like at least half of the topics are worthless drivel. And this contributes to the overall atmosphere here. It's hard to get quality dialogues going when the forum is smattered with this crap. You think information driven people are going to want to wade through these trivial topics? You think they want to converse with the people who are interested in these topics? It's like saying all printed news should go in one place and it wouldn't detract from the experience. Can you imagine the wall street journal being combined with a tabloid? Just tell people to skip over what they don't like. So while it may inconvenience people like you who are interested in both forums, it would still improve your experience as the fantasy football forum would actually be a much better resource than the SP is now. And the gibberish forum would have less people looking down on the asinine topics and conversations that go on in it.

I get that you believe that half these topics are worthless drivel... to you. But they aren't worthless to everyone. If they were worthless to everyone, they'd fall off of the first and second page so fast, that they wouldn't be a problem to begin with. I don't think you understand that sorting out what you constitute as fantasy related and non-fantasy related isn't as black and white as it seems. Every bit of football news, be it speculative or informative, can be fantasy related. Therefore, it all belongs in the Shark Pool. And comparing that to all news is just a horrible analogy. I don't step into the pool very much anymore, but I thought I'd put in my

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I think the most worthless ones get bumped frequently by ridicule.

 

[squistion]

Things will pick up once The Tebow gets on the field.

This is what is wrong with the Shark Pool. Knowledgable posters like this disappear. The Forum Moderator/Henchmen put a hit on these guys and they are never seen again.

Yet the Shark Pool manages to hang on to those that keep posting well thought out in-depth analysis like this:

Tim Tebow He throws more like a girl than a girl does. Anybody still pimping "The Tebow" has lost all credability in regards to their football knowledge.

Perhaps you are right - but, personally, I respect the opinion more of someone who can correctly spell "credibility" and is able to make a point without using six emoticons.

Is that all you got ####wanger.

See that is what is wrong right here. The feminine, over-sensitive type get their panties in a wad. I feel sorry for you no fun people. Is your life that rigid that you can't read thru some fun bull#### to get the precious information you seek from a "Fantasy Football Board".

 

[butcher boy]

I agree about getting rid of the drivel so the hard hitting info and analysis, for example a prediction that LeGarrette Blount will have more fantasy points than Doug Martin, can shine more prominently.

 

[TxBuckeye]

See that is what is wrong right here. The feminine, over-sensitive type get their panties in a wad. I feel sorry for you no fun people. Is your life that rigid that you can't read thru some fun bull#### to get the precious information you seek from a "Fantasy Football Board".

Apparently the problem largely stems from the inability to comprehend context and making assumptions so far out in left field you can't even see home plate anymore. But whatever floats your boat there chach.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

The forum reflects the people playing the game. The popularity of fantasy football had led to every jerk in an office or college or near a computer playing. It's not hard to do some searching and recognize the SP as a source of good info. So they come here.They come here to get info, and they come here when they're bored, and they come here to troll and they come here to vent instead of waiting for 30 minutes on their local talk radio station. These are not "hard-core" or "serious" fantasy players. They're casual buffoons whose personalities shine through wherever they spend a lot of time.That's not to say that more casual players can't be good contributors. I consider myself a casual player, but I benefit from the more serious players having more serious discussions. I try not to get personal or veer a thread off course. But when the SP seems like it's being invaded by low-level Internet dirtbags...it's because that's exactly what's happening. The game has become more popular, and that's attracted low-character people to the game and this forum. Their "game" isn't even fantasy football. It's attention.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

It's incessant immature posts like HughHoney's here that try to drag this place down toward the gutter. "......is that the missed FG from last year to send the Pats to the super bowl? Ya that was great. It helped proved the Pats can't win the big one without cheating. "

Those posts aren't the problem. It's the responders who don't have the self control to ignore it that become the problem.

 

[dickey moe]

It's incessant immature posts like HughHoney's here that try to drag this place down toward the gutter. "......is that the missed FG from last year to send the Pats to the super bowl? Ya that was great. It helped proved the Pats can't win the big one without cheating. "

Those posts aren't the problem. It's the responders who don't have the self control to ignore it that become the problem.

This thread is one big circle-jerk. If you can't use the ignore button or just plain ignore the ignoramuses, then sucks for you.

 

[FF Ninja]

The downside would be having to jump back and forth constantly between two forums to be able to read the football related topics that are now found all in one place.

And they would probably have to add a full time moderator to the staff just to move the football related threads that should not be on "fantasy talk only" board and vice versa.

I don't see why everyone else should be inconvenienced because a handful of people can't take a few seconds to skip a few thread topics.

It's not just a few thread topics. It seems like at least half of the topics are worthless drivel. And this contributes to the overall atmosphere here. It's hard to get quality dialogues going when the forum is smattered with this crap. You think information driven people are going to want to wade through these trivial topics? You think they want to converse with the people who are interested in these topics? It's like saying all printed news should go in one place and it wouldn't detract from the experience. Can you imagine the wall street journal being combined with a tabloid? Just tell people to skip over what they don't like. So while it may inconvenience people like you who are interested in both forums, it would still improve your experience as the fantasy football forum would actually be a much better resource than the SP is now. And the gibberish forum would have less people looking down on the asinine topics and conversations that go on in it.

I get that you believe that half these topics are worthless drivel... to you. But they aren't worthless to everyone. If they were worthless to everyone, they'd fall off of the first and second page so fast, that they wouldn't be a problem to begin with. I don't think you understand that sorting out what you constitute as fantasy related and non-fantasy related isn't as black and white as it seems. Every bit of football news, be it speculative or informative, can be fantasy related. Therefore, it all belongs in the Shark Pool. And comparing that to all news is just a horrible analogy. I don't step into the pool very much anymore, but I thought I'd put in my

I stand behind the analogy because there is definitely fantasy related news and there is tabloid style news. This is not a great example (since it's a fairly serious topic), but the Junior Seau news is fantasy irrelevant. It's a topic that is worth discussing, I suppose, but it doesn't belong side by side with fantasy topics. Other examples are definitely not black and white, but at least weeding out the totally trivial stuff would help. And merging threads would help. I should also point out that it's not just news I'm talking about. Most of the topics I refer to as drivel are not even news related (they'd be opinion pieces in a tabloid, I guess). There are threads like "worst coaching decision in the playoffs" and "is Tebow getting a fair shot?" threads that just would not belong in a fantasy football forum. They are obviously fair game right now which is why I think separate Football FFA and SP forums would be beneficial.Also, of course some of these topics that are worthless to me have value to others, but their value is purely social. People feel the need to chat about rather trivial subjects to achieve connection with others. That's fine, but just keep it separate for those of us who don't need that.

You think information driven people are going to want to wade through these trivial topics? You think they want to converse with the people who are interested in these topics?

If all the "information driven people" are somewhere else, find out where that place is and become a member there. It's probably bubbling over with exactly the kinds of things you want to talk about and none of the things you don't want to talk about.

I don't think they're posting somewhere else. I'm sure they're out there, but turned off by congested, watered down forums. That's why I think reform is in order. If you build it, they will come...

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

You think information driven people are going to want to wade through these trivial topics? You think they want to converse with the people who are interested in these topics?

If all the "information driven people" are somewhere else, find out where that place is and become a member there. It's probably bubbling over with exactly the kinds of things you want to talk about and none of the things you don't want to talk about.

I don't think they're posting somewhere else. I'm sure they're out there, but turned off by congested, watered down forums. That's why I think reform is in order. If you build it, they will come...

OK, go build it then.

 

[FF Ninja]

OK, go build it then.

What are you trying to accomplish here? Did I piss you off by suggesting a way to improve the shark pool? It is foolish to suggest that every time something could be improved upon that someone else start from scratch rather than making a slight change to the existing model.

 

[butcher boy]

OK, go build it then.

What are you trying to accomplish here? Did I piss you off by suggesting a way to improve the shark pool? It is foolish to suggest that every time something could be improved upon that someone else start from scratch rather than making a slight change to the existing model.

You're not suggesting a slight change. You're suggesting splitting the SP so that you can weed out what you call drivel. I believe Ignoratio's point is that what you call drivel isn't necesarily agreed upon as drivel by the majority of the community here. I've been around internet forums in various roles for the better part of two decades and one thing I've learned is that they can be rather fragile. Splitting forums up into too many subforums runs the risk of losing the sense of community that's in place.

 

[squistion]

I get that you believe that half these topics are worthless drivel... to you. But they aren't worthless to everyone. If they were worthless to everyone, they'd fall off of the first and second page so fast, that they wouldn't be a problem to begin with. I don't think you understand that sorting out what you constitute as fantasy related and non-fantasy related isn't as black and white as it seems. Every bit of football news, be it speculative or informative, can be fantasy related. Therefore, it all belongs in the Shark Pool. And comparing that to all news is just a horrible analogy.

I don't step into the pool very much anymore, but I thought I'd put in my

I stand behind the analogy because there is definitely fantasy related news and there is tabloid style news. This is not a great example (since it's a fairly serious topic), but the Junior Seau news is fantasy irrelevant. It's a topic that is worth discussing, I suppose, but it doesn't belong side by side with fantasy topics. Other examples are definitely not black and white, but at least weeding out the totally trivial stuff would help. And merging threads would help. I should also point out that it's not just news I'm talking about. Most of the topics I refer to as drivel are not even news related (they'd be opinion pieces in a tabloid, I guess). There are threads like "worst coaching decision in the playoffs" and "is Tebow getting a fair shot?" threads that just would not belong in a fantasy football forum. They are obviously fair game right now which is why I think separate Football FFA and SP forums would be beneficial.

Discussions regarding Tebow are a good example of something that you consider drivel but actually has fantasy relevance to some people here.I play in Dynasty/Keeper leagues with rosters ranging from 24-30 players and Tebow is rostered in every single one of them (and is even rostered in another which is a 15 keeper). Those who own him are considering whether to cut him in the coming months or hold him and the discussion over whether he indeed has been given a fair shot is of fantasy interest to those owners. I think it is a topic that arguably belongs on a fantasy only board because it can impact decisions made in fantasy leagues.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

OK, go build it then.

What are you trying to accomplish here? Did I piss you off by suggesting a way to improve the shark pool? It is foolish to suggest that every time something could be improved upon that someone else start from scratch rather than making a slight change to the existing model.

You seem to want a forum that operates according to your rules, and only allows topics that you think are worthy of discussion and doesn't allow any topics that don't interest you. It seems the best way to accomplish that would be to start your own forum, not make "slight changes" to an already established and wildly successful forum. My point is that your suggestion isn't a "slight change" and it wouldn't improve the Shark Pool at all. In fact, it would run the risk of ruining it for good. If you don't believe me, start up a forum that works the way you're suggesting and in ten years we'll compare and see if it turned out better or worse than the Shark Pool.

 

[Pipes]

It's incessant immature posts like HughHoney's here that try to drag this place down toward the gutter. "......is that the missed FG from last year to send the Pats to the super bowl? Ya that was great. It helped proved the Pats can't win the big one without cheating. "

Those posts aren't the problem. It's the responders who don't have the self control to ignore it that become the problem.

This is the issue if people would just ignore those posts threads would stay on topic. Instead you have someone insulting another poster then get a page or more of back and forth crap that has little or nothing to do with the topic at hand.

 

[FF Ninja]

OK, go build it then.

What are you trying to accomplish here? Did I piss you off by suggesting a way to improve the shark pool? It is foolish to suggest that every time something could be improved upon that someone else start from scratch rather than making a slight change to the existing model.

You seem to want a forum that operates according to your rules, and only allows topics that you think are worthy of discussion and doesn't allow any topics that don't interest you. It seems the best way to accomplish that would be to start your own forum, not make "slight changes" to an already established and wildly successful forum. My point is that your suggestion isn't a "slight change" and it wouldn't improve the Shark Pool at all. In fact, it would run the risk of ruining it for good. If you don't believe me, start up a forum that works the way you're suggesting and in ten years we'll compare and see if it turned out better or worse than the Shark Pool.

Who wouldn't want that? But no, I'm not suggesting anyone cater to me. Just suggesting that this place become a little more focused. Currently, the majority of topics (and discussion within) here carry a negligible amount of fantasy football value. It attracts a crowd of uninformed, lonely people who like to hear themselves talk. They get some sort of social draw fromenjoy discussing things and will discuss (and have a strong opinion on) just about any trivial topic. They'll also jump in on fantasy topics and assert strong opinions. So while the SP is already watered down with trivial topics, now the fantasy threads get watered down with uninformed opinions.Sadly, the SP is still the best forum for fantasy information. So I'm throwing out ideas on how to improve it. Maybe you get your jollies from the crap non-FF related material I'm suggesting mods move to another location, but you can't deny that the fantasy football relevance of this forum is hindered by it.

I find butcher boy full of hot air (and somewhat of a minor troll), but I actually agree with both of you that a risk would be run by implementing my suggestion so it is highly unlikely to happen. Why mess with something that works? It may be extremely inefficient (for purposes of quality fantasy discussion), but it's relatively popular so I guess it will remain as is. Unfortunate as that may be for those of us who would like to trim the fat. Obviously not important enough to me to start my own forum

Discussions regarding Tebow are a good example of something that you consider drivel but actually has fantasy relevance to some people here.

Sure, discussion about his fantasy football prospects are relevant, but I doubt there is any worthwhile insight inside a thread titled "Is Tebow getting a fair shot?". C'mon man. You know that is just a tender box for trolls and fishermen.

 

[Limp Ditka]

OK, go build it then.

What are you trying to accomplish here? Did I piss you off by suggesting a way to improve the shark pool? It is foolish to suggest that every time something could be improved upon that someone else start from scratch rather than making a slight change to the existing model.

You seem to want a forum that operates according to your rules, and only allows topics that you think are worthy of discussion and doesn't allow any topics that don't interest you. It seems the best way to accomplish that would be to start your own forum, not make "slight changes" to an already established and wildly successful forum. My point is that your suggestion isn't a "slight change" and it wouldn't improve the Shark Pool at all. In fact, it would run the risk of ruining it for good. If you don't believe me, start up a forum that works the way you're suggesting and in ten years we'll compare and see if it turned out better or worse than the Shark Pool.

Who wouldn't want that? But no, I'm not suggesting anyone cater to me. Just suggesting that this place become a little more focused. Currently, the majority of topics (and discussion within) here carry a negligible amount of fantasy football value. It attracts a crowd of uninformed, lonely people who like to hear themselves talk. They get some sort of social draw fromenjoy discussing things and will discuss (and have a strong opinion on) just about any trivial topic. They'll also jump in on fantasy topics and assert strong opinions. So while the SP is already watered down with trivial topics, now the fantasy threads get watered down with uninformed opinions.Sadly, the SP is still the best forum for fantasy information. So I'm throwing out ideas on how to improve it. Maybe you get your jollies from the crap non-FF related material I'm suggesting mods move to another location, but you can't deny that the fantasy football relevance of this forum is hindered by it.

I find butcher boy full of hot air (and somewhat of a minor troll), but I actually agree with both of you that a risk would be run by implementing my suggestion so it is highly unlikely to happen. Why mess with something that works? It may be extremely inefficient (for purposes of quality fantasy discussion), but it's relatively popular so I guess it will remain as is. Unfortunate as that may be for those of us who would like to trim the fat. Obviously not important enough to me to start my own forum

Discussions regarding Tebow are a good example of something that you consider drivel but actually has fantasy relevance to some people here.

Sure, discussion about his fantasy football prospects are relevant, but I doubt there is any worthwhile insight inside a thread titled "Is Tebow getting a fair shot?". C'mon man. You know that is just a tender box for trolls and fishermen.

I, for one, love a tender box

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I play in Dynasty/Keeper leagues with rosters ranging from 24-30 players and Tebow is rostered in every single one of them (and is even rostered in another which is a 15 keeper). Those who own him are considering whether to cut him in the coming months or hold him and the discussion over whether he indeed has been given a fair shot is of fantasy interest to those owners. I think it is a topic that arguably belongs on a fantasy only board because it can impact decisions made in fantasy leagues.

Exactly. Not everyone is in an 6 team small roster re-draft with their little sister and her 4 classmates.

 

[squistion]

Sure, discussion about his fantasy football prospects are relevant, but I doubt there is any worthwhile insight inside a thread titled "Is Tebow getting a fair shot?". C'mon man. You know that is just a tender box for trolls and fishermen.

Refresh my memory, who made you the final abriter as to whether a thread title can or can not produce relevant fantasy discussion? Again it seems to all boil down to what you, individually consider drivel irrespective of what anyone else thinks. And FYI I have been on this board for over a decade and have found some good fantasy discussion generated in threads that didn't seem that promising from looking at the titles.And on a side note, I haven't found trolls and fisherman to be that tender.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

OK, go build it then.

What are you trying to accomplish here? Did I piss you off by suggesting a way to improve the shark pool? It is foolish to suggest that every time something could be improved upon that someone else start from scratch rather than making a slight change to the existing model.

You seem to want a forum that operates according to your rules, and only allows topics that you think are worthy of discussion and doesn't allow any topics that don't interest you. It seems the best way to accomplish that would be to start your own forum, not make "slight changes" to an already established and wildly successful forum. My point is that your suggestion isn't a "slight change" and it wouldn't improve the Shark Pool at all. In fact, it would run the risk of ruining it for good. If you don't believe me, start up a forum that works the way you're suggesting and in ten years we'll compare and see if it turned out better or worse than the Shark Pool.

Who wouldn't want that? But no, I'm not suggesting anyone cater to me. Just suggesting that this place become a little more focused. Currently, the majority of topics (and discussion within) here carry a negligible amount of fantasy football value. It attracts a crowd of uninformed, lonely people who like to hear themselves talk. They get some sort of social draw fromenjoy discussing things and will discuss (and have a strong opinion on) just about any trivial topic. They'll also jump in on fantasy topics and assert strong opinions. So while the SP is already watered down with trivial topics, now the fantasy threads get watered down with uninformed opinions.Sadly, the SP is still the best forum for fantasy information. So I'm throwing out ideas on how to improve it. Maybe you get your jollies from the crap non-FF related material I'm suggesting mods move to another location, but you can't deny that the fantasy football relevance of this forum is hindered by it.

I find butcher boy full of hot air (and somewhat of a minor troll), but I actually agree with both of you that a risk would be run by implementing my suggestion so it is highly unlikely to happen. Why mess with something that works? It may be extremely inefficient (for purposes of quality fantasy discussion), but it's relatively popular so I guess it will remain as is. Unfortunate as that may be for those of us who would like to trim the fat. Obviously not important enough to me to start my own forum

Discussions regarding Tebow are a good example of something that you consider drivel but actually has fantasy relevance to some people here.

Sure, discussion about his fantasy football prospects are relevant, but I doubt there is any worthwhile insight inside a thread titled "Is Tebow getting a fair shot?". C'mon man. You know that is just a tender box for trolls and fishermen.

I, for one, love a tender box

yeah, I gotta check out that thread

 

[butcher boy]

And on a side note, I haven't found trolls and fisherman to be that tender.

I can only speak as a "minor" troll but mind you, I am very tender.

 

[FF Ninja]

I, for one, love a tender box

Is it supposed to be spelled tinder?

 

[FF Ninja]

Refresh my memory, who made you the final abriter as to whether a thread title can or can not produce relevant fantasy discussion? Again it seems to all boil down to what you, individually consider drivel irrespective of what anyone else thinks. And FYI I have been on this board for over a decade and have found some good fantasy discussion generated in threads that didn't seem that promising from looking at the titles.

Speaking of fishing... methinks you are being intentional dense here.I obviously have not been appointed final arbiter. I'm simply making an educated guess there. No doubt fantasy football relevant discussion has sprouted in non-fantasy football related topics, but that hardly makes that the norm nor makes a strong case for keeping trivial chatter mixed in with fantasy football discussion. I'm merely suggesting to move non-fantasy football topics (aka drivel) into a football FFA forum. It doesn't have to be an exact science to produce results. If you want to keep questionable topics such as "is Tebow getting a fair shot?" in the SP, my humble suggestion would be to merge it with all the other Tebow threads. Do we really need 15 sub-topics on a guy who had a negligible fantasy impact this year?If you, butcher, and IE want to pile on because my suggestion represents a threat to your social atmosphere, I'm sure it won't be unwelcome here. The SP attracts and/or retains far more people who are interested in fringe or non-FF related topics than it does people who are solely interested in FF discussion, so you'll obviously have strength in numbers.

 

[squistion]

Refresh my memory, who made you the final abriter as to whether a thread title can or can not produce relevant fantasy discussion? Again it seems to all boil down to what you, individually consider drivel irrespective of what anyone else thinks. And FYI I have been on this board for over a decade and have found some good fantasy discussion generated in threads that didn't seem that promising from looking at the titles.

Speaking of fishing... methinks you are being intentional dense here.I obviously have not been appointed final arbiter. I'm simply making an educated guess there. No doubt fantasy football relevant discussion has sprouted in non-fantasy football related topics, but that hardly makes that the norm nor makes a strong case for keeping trivial chatter mixed in with fantasy football discussion.

I'm merely suggesting to move non-fantasy football topics (aka drivel) into a football FFA forum. It doesn't have to be an exact science to produce results. If you want to keep questionable topics such as "is Tebow getting a fair shot?" in the SP, my humble suggestion would be to merge it with all the other Tebow threads. Do we really need 15 sub-topics on a guy who had a negligible fantasy impact this year?

If you, butcher, and IE want to pile on because my suggestion represents a threat to your social atmosphere, I'm sure it won't be unwelcome here. The SP attracts and/or retains far more people who are interested in fringe or non-FF related topics than it does people who are solely interested in FF discussion, so you'll obviously have strength in numbers.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And it ain't broke.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

how much fantasy football value does this thread have?

 

[Limp Ditka]

Refresh my memory, who made you the final abriter as to whether a thread title can or can not produce relevant fantasy discussion? Again it seems to all boil down to what you, individually consider drivel irrespective of what anyone else thinks. And FYI I have been on this board for over a decade and have found some good fantasy discussion generated in threads that didn't seem that promising from looking at the titles.

methinks you are being intentional dense here.I'm simply making an educated guess there.

I'm having some doubts here.

 

[FF Ninja]

Refresh my memory, who made you the final abriter as to whether a thread title can or can not produce relevant fantasy discussion? Again it seems to all boil down to what you, individually consider drivel irrespective of what anyone else thinks. And FYI I have been on this board for over a decade and have found some good fantasy discussion generated in threads that didn't seem that promising from looking at the titles.

Speaking of fishing... methinks you are being intentional dense here.I obviously have not been appointed final arbiter. I'm simply making an educated guess there. No doubt fantasy football relevant discussion has sprouted in non-fantasy football related topics, but that hardly makes that the norm nor makes a strong case for keeping trivial chatter mixed in with fantasy football discussion.

I'm merely suggesting to move non-fantasy football topics (aka drivel) into a football FFA forum. It doesn't have to be an exact science to produce results. If you want to keep questionable topics such as "is Tebow getting a fair shot?" in the SP, my humble suggestion would be to merge it with all the other Tebow threads. Do we really need 15 sub-topics on a guy who had a negligible fantasy impact this year?

If you, butcher, and IE want to pile on because my suggestion represents a threat to your social atmosphere, I'm sure it won't be unwelcome here. The SP attracts and/or retains far more people who are interested in fringe or non-FF related topics than it does people who are solely interested in FF discussion, so you'll obviously have strength in numbers.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And it ain't broke.

Depends on what you consider broken. Upon first blush, one would think the SP was a haven for FF info and discussion. If you entered with this expectation and saw the massive amount of drivel in here and multiple threads on the same topics then you'd certainly consider it broken. If your social life consists of bonding with people on the internet over trivial information then this is a well oiled machine.

Refresh my memory, who made you the final abriter as to whether a thread title can or can not produce relevant fantasy discussion? Again it seems to all boil down to what you, individually consider drivel irrespective of what anyone else thinks. And FYI I have been on this board for over a decade and have found some good fantasy discussion generated in threads that didn't seem that promising from looking at the titles.

methinks you are being intentional dense here.I'm simply making an educated guess there.

I'm having some doubts here.

What are you doubting? My ability to make an educated guess? If so then that would imply that you really think a thread titled "Is Tebow getting a fair shot?" has fantasy football relevant discussion. I find it mildly shocking that anyone would really believe this. Educated or not.

 

[squistion]

I'm simply making an educated guess there.

I'm having some doubts here.

What are you doubting? My ability to make an educated guess? If so then that would imply that you really think a thread titled "Is Tebow getting a fair shot?" has fantasy football relevant discussion. I find it mildly shocking that anyone would really believe this. Educated or not.

:sigh:OK, let's look at your premise that a thread about Tebow getting a fair shot has no fantasy football relevance whatsoever.

As mentioned previously, Tebow is rostered in many leagues with a roster of 24+. New start ups for Dynasty Leagues have begun. Those who currently own Timmy have to decide whether to cut him or hold him (most will probably cut). Those in new leagues might want to take a flyer with one of their last roster spots (seemingly less likely now since the Jags have declared no interest, but still possible he may resurface on another team).

If Tebow has been given every chance to succeed, then he has no future fantasy value and as self evident as that appears to some, it is not a settled issue to everyone - so it is worthy of fantasy discussion.

On the other hand, perhaps there are legitimate reasons that he never able to fully show his stuff. In that thread, some posters made their case that he has been denied the opportunity to prove himself, which would mean he might have some future fantasy value and merits a roster spot in deeper leagues for another 6 months or so for those who like to roll-the-dice on a high upside player.

The problem is, you obviously have already decided that he has absolutely no future fantasy value and thus, any thread discussing him automatically is worthless and is considered drivel. Once again you demonstrate that you think that your opinion is the only one that really counts as to what is fantasy relevant and what is not.

 

[Dreamer]

Don't feed the Trolls. They are like alligators, once you start feeding them they keep coming back and that creates the problem.

 

[doowain]

FFS I want to smack my head against the corner of my desk reading this bickering back and forth between you two.

And, FF Ninja, I find it amusing that you bash others here for "liking to hear themselves talk". methinks you are bad at self evaluation.

 

[rct]

FFS I want to smack my head against the corner of my desk reading this bickering back and forth between you two.

And, FF Ninja, I find it amusing that you bash others here for "liking to hear themselves talk". methinks you are bad at self evaluation.

If it really bothers you that much, maybe you could contact the powers that be and ask that they add an ignore feature so that you can avoid the bickering posters...Oh wait...

 

[doowain]

FFS I want to smack my head against the corner of my desk reading this bickering back and forth between you two.

And, FF Ninja, I find it amusing that you bash others here for "liking to hear themselves talk". methinks you are bad at self evaluation.

If it really bothers you that much, maybe you could contact the powers that be and ask that they add an ignore button so that you can avoid the bickering posters...Oh wait...

I don't mind bickering. I do it at times on here.It's the non-stop back and forth "Nuh-uh, I'm right and you're wrong." And the passive aggressive "You're an idiot for thinking the way you do". Give it up at some point.

 

[teamramrod]

yea, but we do have SWC after all.....peace

 

[FF Ninja]

I'm simply making an educated guess there.

I'm having some doubts here.

What are you doubting? My ability to make an educated guess? If so then that would imply that you really think a thread titled "Is Tebow getting a fair shot?" has fantasy football relevant discussion. I find it mildly shocking that anyone would really believe this. Educated or not.

:sigh:OK, let's look at your premise that a thread about Tebow getting a fair shot has no fantasy football relevance whatsoever.

As mentioned previously, Tebow is rostered in many leagues with a roster of 24+. New start ups for Dynasty Leagues have begun. Those who currently own Timmy have to decide whether to cut him or hold him (most will probably cut). Those in new leagues might want to take a flyer with one of their last roster spots (seemingly less likely now since the Jags have declared no interest, but still possible he may resurface on another team).

If Tebow has been given every chance to succeed, then he has no future fantasy value and as self evident as that appears to some, it is not a settled issue to everyone - so it is worthy of fantasy discussion.

On the other hand, perhaps there are legitimate reasons that he never able to fully show his stuff. In that thread, some posters made their case that he has been denied the opportunity to prove himself, which would mean he might have some future fantasy value and merits a roster spot in deeper leagues for another 6 months or so for those who like to roll-the-dice on a high upside player.

The problem is, you obviously have already decided that he has absolutely no future fantasy value and thus, any thread discussing him automatically is worthless and is considered drivel. Once again you demonstrate that you think that your opinion is the only one that really counts as to what is fantasy relevant and what is not.

:sigh: No, you missed my point entirely, but that's my fault for not stating it clearly. I'm actually one of the few who doesn't have a strong stance on Tebow. His rushing stats make him relevant if he becomes a starter, so in my opinion he definitely warrants a small amount of discussion. But when I called that Tebow thread a tinder box, I did so because he's very polarizing and people with strong opinions are going to go back and forth forever (yes, I see the irony here) and it will be practically impossible to glean any worthwhile fantasy football info. That's all I meant. It's a loaded topic with a thread title that just invites non-FF discussion. I did not mean to imply that Tebow's fantasy situation should never be discussed. Sorry for not making that clear earlier.

FFS I want to smack my head against the corner of my desk reading this bickering back and forth between you two.

And, FF Ninja, I find it amusing that you bash others here for "liking to hear themselves talk". methinks you are bad at self evaluation.

I get carried away in arguments trying to make my case/defend my stance. That is different than what I was referring to. Some people like to pop into threads and authoritatively state opinions on situations without actually knowing very much (they don't know historical patterns, coaching tendencies, o-line changes, college performance, etc). They throw out buzz words like burst and vision but don't have a clue. They claim AJ has lost a step when he's really just not getting as many targets. They call Quizz a poor man's Sproles just because he's short. Stuff like that.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

And, FF Ninja, I find it amusing that you bash others here for "liking to hear themselves talk". methinks you are bad at self evaluation.

I get carried away in arguments trying to make my case/defend my stance. That is different than what I was referring to. Some people like to pop into threads and authoritatively state opinions on situations without actually knowing very much

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I get carried away in arguments trying to make my case/defend my stance. That is different than what I was referring to. Some people like to pop into threads and authoritatively state opinions on situations without actually knowing very much (they don't know historical patterns, coaching tendencies, o-line changes, college performance, etc). They throw out buzz words like burst and vision but don't have a clue. They claim AJ has lost a step when he's really just not getting as many targets. They call Quizz a poor man's Sproles just because he's short. Stuff like that.

 

[daveR]

This has become a "have a take" society. People don't have opinions and information anymore. They have quips.

 

[butcher boy]

I get carried away in arguments trying to make my case/defend my stance. That is different than what I was referring to. Some people like to pop into threads and authoritatively state opinions on situations without actually knowing very much (they don't know historical patterns, coaching tendencies, o-line changes, college performance, etc). They throw out buzz words like burst and vision but don't have a clue. They claim AJ has lost a step when he's really just not getting as many targets. They call Quizz a poor man's Sproles just because he's short. Stuff like that.

Remind us of how your knowledge of historical patterns, coaching tendencies, o-line changes, and college performance influenced you to come to the conclusion that LeGarrette Blount would be a fantasy relevant back this year? You seem to think that people's opinions here can only be validated by how much research they do. Unfortunately many people have come to the realization that there is a lot of randomness and luck to this hobby and all the research in the world does not guarantee success, and sometimes gut feelings turn out to be right. People are going to make bold predictions and statements on gut feelings and there's nothing at all wrong with that. People both play this hobby and post here for fun and you seem to want to take that part out of it.

 

[Tau837]

IMO something that would improve the Shark Pool a lot would be to have the majority of the FBG staff posting in it a lot more. I miss the days when most of them were a lot more active here.

 

[Mentos]

IMO something that would improve the Shark Pool a lot would be to have the majority of the FBG staff posting in it a lot more. I miss the days when most of them were a lot more active here.

Who are they? I know Doug Drinen is one but I've only come across maybe a half dozen posts from him in my three years here.

 

[5Rings]

You guys are taking the internet and this Fantasy Football forum too seriously.Its the same as it ever was; you learn who has good takes and who to ignore. The only thing that changes are the names.Happy Sunday.

 

[Tau837]

IMO something that would improve the Shark Pool a lot would be to have the majority of the FBG staff posting in it a lot more. I miss the days when most of them were a lot more active here.

Who are they? I know Doug Drinen is one but I've only come across maybe a half dozen posts from him in my three years here.

There was a time when staff members posted regularly in the pool. Doug Drinen, Chase Stuart, Jason Wood, Maurile Tremblay, Sigmund Bloom, et al. I don't really recall a time when Joe Bryant posted often in the Shark Pool, but it seems to me that David Dodds used to post more often as well. The staff are all ostensibly fantasy football experts. I realize 'expert' is a loaded term, but it only helps the quality of the threads in the pool if more of them are posting more often.

 

[Limp Ditka]

IMO something that would improve the Shark Pool a lot would be to have the majority of the FBG staff posting in it a lot more. I miss the days when most of them were a lot more active here.

Agreed. This place needs more Marc Levin. Lots more

 

[flapgreen]

I get carried away in arguments trying to make my case/defend my stance. That is different than what I was referring to. Some people like to pop into threads and authoritatively state opinions on situations without actually knowing very much (they don't know historical patterns, coaching tendencies, o-line changes, college performance, etc). They throw out buzz words like burst and vision but don't have a clue. They claim AJ has lost a step when he's really just not getting as many targets. They call Quizz a poor man's Sproles just because he's short. Stuff like that.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I get carried away in arguments trying to make my case/defend my stance. That is different than what I was referring to. Some people like to pop into threads and authoritatively state opinions on situations without actually knowing very much (they don't know historical patterns, coaching tendencies, o-line changes, college performance, etc). They throw out buzz words like burst and vision but don't have a clue. They claim AJ has lost a step when he's really just not getting as many targets. They call Quizz a poor man's Sproles just because he's short. Stuff like that.