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What is MNF's obsession with country music? (1 Viewer)
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
Thank Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake for it. They blew it.
valhallan
Footballguy
Explain what? The intricacies of song structure?Popular music is force-fed to the masses, yes, but it's also written by very accomplished musicians who know how to strike emotion in their listeners - be that heartache, joy, anger, whatever. It's that ability that enables songs to remain classics years after their original airplay.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Perhaps a duet with Theisman - My Achy, Breaky Leg
Eric
Footballguy
People actually listen to country music? :X Seriously, I've tried to get into it. Maybe a good song or two out of a hundred. I mean, I can understand Johnny Cash, he was cool. But some of this garbage like what they play on MNF ranks with the worst music I have EVER heard, period. Give me some modern rock any day. At least there's some friggin variety with that.
Reaper
Footballguy
I get force fed Country music at work a lot and my family seems to enjoy it...What I can't stand is that a lof of these songs they run around singing are reincarnations of the same country songs I've heard for years - "Achy Breaky heart" "Lonely Places" ETC ETC I play a little guitar and it's the same song - Same songs over and over again with a new singer and new lyrics!!!!!!You can say that for a lot of music but, Sheesh...... The draw is it's simplicity and it's easy to sing along to and get the lyrics down real quick - My mom sings along and knows every song... she's Singing RIGHT NOW!!!!!That said - Country music has some good musicians right now and has come around a bit - I don't listen a lot but I respect the talents of Alison Krauss and the Union Station as well as Keith Urban....I'm actually going to see Keith Urban in NYC - He's been playing guitar since he was a kid and plays a damn mean guitar as good as many of the rockers!!!
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Jules Winnfield
Footballguy
Serious questionSo you don't allow rap or hip/hop with its lyrics of B****** and Ho's?Well, actually there genius, I do what all GOOD parents SHOULD do. Everything the kids bring in (music, movies, games) gets checked BY DAD first. If I don't feel it's appropriate, it goes back or gets canned.Now, before you start offering your parental opinions, perhaps you should understand how this works. In this process, I've gotten to listen to my share of decent stuff and crap, not all country/Rock/hip-hop was good/bad per se. BUT, since we started doing this I've also learned to USE THE INTERNET to read lyrics of songs I'd prefer not listen to. Why? Because I don't want to shelter my kids. Oddly enough though, most of the new stuff put out (speaking in terms of albums and especially rap & Hip Hop) has enough of the aformentioned crap on it that my kids will not own them. Will they listen to it outside the house? Yes, sure they will. But I will control what I can and since I've not had any issues with my kids yet, I think my system works darn good.And I'm sure that is based on you listening to a wide range of hip-hop or rap music.Must be a real fun house to grow up in...
Does the same apply for certain country artists? Yes, it sure does. I love Hank Jr, but as most fans will tell you, he's not the best role model in terms of his music.
We like Christian Rock, Classic Rock, some Pop, Gospel, Bluegrass, Soft Rock, Hard Rock, but mostly country. I've just been smart enough to filter out the good from the bad.
So, YES, this is based on me listening to a WIDE RANGE of genres.
Or its talk about busting a cap in some dudes a** or cop killers?
Serious question
So what you like is good and what you don't like sucks? You are so sure of this that an entire genre of music is off limits to your kids? Generalize much?You know not all rap and hip hop is about drugs, sex and violence? You know I could list a dozen country songs that are about sex drugs and violence off the top of my head. Bottom line is Country is very popular and less likely to offend. Is it "better" than any other type of music? That is an opinion and I respect peoples perogative to have their own opinion. Me personally, I don't like country outside of a few particular songs, but I am not so snobbish I think my opinion gives me the right to judge and entire genre of music, or the people that like it.That being said, I can't resist:What do you get when you play a country song bakwards?You get your wife back, your truck back, your dog back....
Some Rap is good. Tupac, BNTH (some), 50 Cent and EminemAlot of Rock is good. Alterbridge, Nickelback, Korn, Audioslave, Incubus, etcAlot of Country is good. Keith Urban, Kenny Chesney, Rascal Flatts, Brad Paisley, etc.Christian is also good. Casting Crowns, Mercy Me, EtcI can see how someone can make a case for each genre but to just deny Country is stupid. Most of you guys dont listen to it so you dont have an unbias opinion.I have listened to Rap/Hip-Hop all my life but after a while you start to realize some of the songs have no meaning at all. WHAT YEAH OK! That doesnt mean ####. Kanye West = Racist I certainly wont listen to him anymore. Ludacris and MANY others = Sex, Drugs, Money You cannot get a half way intellegent song out of most rappers. You can say the same for any genre but Rap is most notorious for that.
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Jules Winnfield
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Give me a break! Heartache, joy, anger, etc...can be found in any type of music. Give me your list of today's most "well-written" songs
Country is the easiest lyrics in the world to write. You don't even have to write about trucks, beer, dogs, your wife, or a bar. Write about anything but just make sure one of the popular artists like Shania Twain, Faith Hill, Garth Brooks...sings it and you have covered the pop stations and country stations because they can not be considered all Country anymore. I don't even know if Shania or Faith ever could have been.
But yes. Explain to me the intricacies of song structure.
Urine_Idiot
Footballguy
I agree for bringing back the old 70's MNF theme, maybe some indepth analysis during half time and a gushy story about something slightly related to football. But those times are past now...everything has been gone over six different ways by the time monday night rolls on... The country is misha misha, I would much rather see an equipment malfuction with Tim McGraws wife but it would be kinda cool to have other types of music on a rotational basis...with enough varity you could avoid the truly controversial. It's not like Ozzy bit the head off of greg baty during the intro on TNF to start the season. Bring back jocks with instruments...I don't care...halftime is the p break and refill the cooler with ice/maybe make some nachos/pancakes/tuck the wife in/for me.And Vallaha got it right what is this doing still in the Shark Pool
Jules Winnfield
Footballguy
So would you let your kids listen to Bob Marley or Eric Clapton sing "I Shot the Sheriff"?
What about the Dixie Dorks and "Goodbye Earl"?
Johnny Cash and "Folsom Prison Blues"
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Gold Dragon
Footballguy
You'd think with the size of the investment they have made in MNF, they would have done some market research in their music selection.
Red Apples
Footballguy
country music is the safest popular music the networks can use.there is a very unlikely chance that abc would offend the public so bad w/ this music choice than with the alternatives.
rap & rock could easily cause a stir, especially with americans who "will not allow that music in my hose".
those of us who dont like country, usually would never say we would not allow country in our house, it is simply something we dont enjoy.
once again, the silent majority goes unheard because at the end of the day we really dont care that much.
Mmen of Steel
Footballguy
Pro Football = Blue Collar demographic = Country MusicThat's the thinking -- BUT IT IS NOT RIGHT.(Neither is painting with such a broad brush, BTW)There are a lot of white collared folks that played hs/college sports that still have an active interest in NFL/FFL.I thought it was interesting that Rob Thomas got to break his new single during the NBA playoffs, but the NFL gets a rehash of a rehashed country song.Same station (ABC), different league--maybe the NFL really is turning into the "No Fun League".I hope not. I love it, but I want more of.......something else. 
Red Apples
Footballguy
often times my fingers cant keep up w/ my mind, who here can say different.Actually, my "hose" isn't an issue...and I think I'm offended that you suggested such a thing!
Jules Winnfield
Footballguy
I did read it. You still didn't answer my question. Would you allow your kids to bring into your house those songs, or albums with those songs, into your house?
Big Sug
Footballguy
haven't read the entire thread, but to me it's really obvious that there is a major cultural divide in this country right now, and it breaks down nicely along geographical boundries.The music I enjoy most (house music) isn't even available, either live or for purchase, in 85% of the country. The reason that country music is such a big part of MNF is that it's what most American men enjoy. I find it unlistenable, but I understand why I have to put up with it at halftime.The other obvious alternative would be hip-hop, which long ago crossed the line from an fun, interesting niche music & culture into the realm of widespread pop music. This alternative is dismissed by ABC because of the current political climate which definitely does not favor anything remotely controversial.
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Mmen of Steel
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There are sex/drug references in jazz?
How about house and techno?
What DOES SUCK is your narrowminded and shortsighted view.
Guess what, your kids are listening to it at school, with their friends and anywhere else you aren't around.
The more you disallow it, the greater the temptation for them to indulge.
I just hope that they are listening to Common, Kanye West and other REAL hip-hop artists instead of the materailistic/misogynst content out there....
sdsjr3
Footballguy
Good grief man, pay attention. If you read my prior post, that answers that question. The answer is NO. Jeez. No need to try and spin this thing out of control. It is what it is. Now, to further complicate things though, I OWN albums with all those songs. As probably most guys my age do, I just listen to them in my truck or when it's the wife and I. When our son is old enough...by MY determination, I'll loosen the reigns on him.
sdsjr3
Footballguy
See, this is what get's me. I said most. Classical, Jazz, gospel, christian rock I don't consider mainstream music, or genres that are as popular as what you hear on the majority of radio stations etc.I happen to REALLY like Jazz...a lot. This isn't a racial thing for me by any means. I'm specifically interested in lyrics when it comes to my kids.There are sex/drug references in jazz?
How about house and techno?
What DOES SUCK is your narrowminded and shortsighted view.
Guess what, your kids are listening to it at school, with their friends and anywhere else you aren't around.
The more you disallow it, the greater the temptation for them to indulge.
I just hope that they are listening to Common, Kanye West and other REAL hip-hop artists instead of the materailistic/misogynst content out there....
But see, your entire post loses ALL credibility when you say "your narrowminded and shortsighted view".
And further. If you think I'm naive enough to think the kids aren't doing their own thing, then your as dumb as your post sounds. Bottom line is that I control what I can, and any parent that doesn't is a fool. Period. Also, that whole "The more you disallow it, the greater the temptation for them to indulge." is one of the biggest parental cop outs I've ever heard.
We run a very strict Christian and what some might call old fashioned household and I promise you that my kids have bought into it. Yes, I run a dictatorship...but my kids are more educated about "wordly" things than most because we are not waiting for the schools futile attempts at educating them in a politically correct way.
Jules Winnfield
Footballguy
You listen to albums in a truck?
Psssst... you should lay off the personal attacks, the mods don't like it.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
/headexplodes
Jules Winnfield
Footballguy
Classical?Like Stravinsky, Beethoven, Bach, Mozart?or Classical like in classic rock like Beatles , Stones, Zeppelin Doors?
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Like I said before. You have to look no further than the wardrobe malfunction that was such an embarrassment. They said they were going to clean it up and Tim McGraw and Hank Williams are much cleaner and less risky then most other genres.There are actually a lot of white collared folks that like country music too.Pro Football = Blue Collar demographic = Country Music
That's the thinking -- BUT IT IS NOT RIGHT.
(Neither is painting with such a broad brush, BTW)
There are a lot of white collared folks that played hs/college sports that still have an active interest in NFL/FFL.
I thought it was interesting that Rob Thomas got to break his new single during the NBA playoffs, but the NFL gets a rehash of a rehashed country song.
Same station (ABC), different league--maybe the NFL really is turning into the "No Fun League".
I hope not. I love it, but I want more of.......something else.
sdsjr3
Footballguy
I wish I'd have worded my ORIGINAL post in this thread better, but I did use the word "most" and I'll stand by that. With regards to rap, I've not heard many, I guess their called songs, that don't include violence, drugs, or sex. Yes, I've heard or read some lyrics that weren't too bad. I grew up in the early 80's when it started to become popular and the stuff we listened to in school didn't include shooting people, bangin' a ho, or sniffin a line. Hip Hop, from what I can tell, isn't as bad...but I've still heard enough to know that I'm not a fan of a lot of those lyrics either.I'm pretty sure though that this is all more opinion than anything. It's all about the culture we're living in. But I certainly won't ease my stance because I HAVE done research on what my kids listen to outside the home or whatever.
Jules Winnfield
Footballguy
Gershwin? No, no, no, son.Nothing wrong with Gershwin but that isn't classical.
Bach, Beethoven, Stravinsky, Brahms, Mozart, Racmaninoff, Tchaikovsky, Chopin, Elgar, Handel, Haydn, Holst, Mahler, Mendelssohn (check out the St. Paul oratorio), Scarlatti (especially if you like harpsichord) , Schubert, Shostakovich, Vivaldi.
(Maybe you want to avoid Stravinsky. He was the music of the Russian Revolution.)
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SmoovySmoov
The Way of the Samurai
If they used rap their ratings would be higher. 
