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What kind of beer is everyone drinking tonight? (2 Viewers)

Made a quick trip over the border to 18th Street in Hammond. Grabbed:

Candi Crushable x2

Undercrown

Rise of the Angels
I'll have to go stock up on Undercrown, just LOVE that beer.  Really like Rise of the Angels, too.  18th Street is just awesome in general, really.

 
Great Lakes Alberta Clipper is a bit of a letdown.  Not bad by any stretch but not nearly as good as Edmund Fitzgerald yet it's more expensive for a 4-pack of Alberta Clipper than a 6-pack of Ed Fitz.

 
I'll have to go stock up on Undercrown, just LOVE that beer.  Really like Rise of the Angels, too.  18th Street is just awesome in general, really.
I agree. Big fan of both of those. 
 

Also flew through the first 6er of Crushable. Will probably destroy the other 6 today.

 
FYI Hubbard's Cave Fresh IIPA v2 has hit stores. Got to one place 30 minutes after it was delivered and half of it was already gone.

 
Had to go back to Four Fathers to fill up x2 on Western Sunrise again before they run out.  Very good IPA with just enough Brett funk to be super interesting and unique.  Also grabbed a bomber of Ivy Mike (Black IPA) and four pounder cans of Thin Red Line (Hoppy Red).  Will report back on the latter two.

 
Thin Red Line is very good.  Hop-forward certainly, but very well balanced.  I'll buy again -- local version of Nugget Nectar -- not quite as good, but well worth drinking.

 
It's overkill in Michigan right now. 3 of the best Michigan IPAs (maybe the 3 best?) are all released at the same time: Hopstache, Freedom of 78 and Tasmanian Hatter. I guess I will be drinking a ton of IPAs.

 
Supposedly you need to carry a Maine Beer on tap  6 straight months to get Lunch . We ordered a Peeper and were told they just switched over to Lunch. Wasn't cheap , $7 but worth it
I would pay like 10x that just to try it. How does it compare to the Trillium beers or something like Julius?

 
I would pay like 10x that just to try it. How does it compare to the Trillium beers or something like Julius?
Can't get my hands on Treehouse Julius. I've had Trillium's Congress & Fort point , like them both but think they are overhyped. I enjoy another local for me , Night Shift Santilli more .

Lunch is refined & very easy to drink

 
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Can't get my hands on Treehouse Julius. I've had Trillium's Congress & Fort point , like them both but think they are overhyped. I enjoy another local for me , Night Shift Santilli more .
So Maine Lunch is a lot better than Trillium? That is good to know for when I can finally put together a trade for one of these. I was lucky enough to have Julius and liked it a lot, but preferred the Cycle Crank (thanks again @Wingnut)

 
Last night

Fresh v2

Undercrown

Then slummed it with Lizard King. 

I think today I will finish off the Candi Crushable and onto Rise of the Angels. Maybe a Birthday Bomb! with GoT but that might put me overboard into a state where I will need to re-watch it to remember what happened. 

 
Last night

Fresh v2

Undercrown

Then slummed it with Lizard King. 

I think today I will finish off the Candi Crushable and onto Rise of the Angels. Maybe a Birthday Bomb! with GoT but that might put me overboard into a state where I will need to re-watch it to remember what happened. 
How is v2? I just got 2 bottles that I'm likely having tonight.

 
So Maine Lunch is a lot better than Trillium? That is good to know for when I can finally put together a trade for one of these. I was lucky enough to have Julius and liked it a lot, but preferred the Cycle Crank (thanks again @Wingnut)
Trilliums Double Dry Hopped stuff is good as anything out there IMO. MBC Lunch is really good, but Dinner is just fantastic.

80s, you wouldnt recognize Crank if you had it now, they changed the recipe and its a shell of its former self. I used to go to Cycle once a week and stock up on growlers, and I dont even stop into Cycle much anymore outside of bottle releases. Civil Society has taken over as the best brewery for IPAs in Florida. Everything they make is great.

Ive had a good amount of Julius over the past month or so, and it has moved up my board quite a bit...Id take it over almost anything else at this point. It seems to be a lot more juicy than it used to be, I cant get enough of it,.

 
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Ive had a good amount of Julius over the past month or so, and it has moved up my board quite a bit...Id take it over almost anything else at this point. It seems to be a lot more juicy than it used to be, I cant get enough of it,.
I've found Heady easier to get than Julius here in MA

 
I've found Heady easier to get than Julius here in MA
Not surprising since Heady goes to distro, the batches are much bigger, and Julius is only sold at Tree House. I mostly send Cycle stouts for Tree House, they're about the only thing I get that pulls TH consistently, and at dollar for dollar.

 
Needed something different to cleanse the palette. 

Saugatuck barrel aged Neapolitan Stout. 

Wasn't expecting much but it's actually pretty good. 

 
Civil Societys Pulp...they canned this using a mobile canning unit, and apparently there were issues. Oxidized and kinda flat. It's a shame cuz this beer is usually excellent, and I heard this batch was great on draft and in cans less than 3 days old...it just isn't holding up in the cans. Still a good beer but not as good as it should be. Hopefully it's a learning curve thing since this was their first ever canning.

 
Samuel Smith Yorkshire Stingo (aged one year in Oak barrels).

Never tried before (not cheap, even by this thread's standards - special occasion). Excellent. Really smooth, nice aftertaste. Definitely one of the best I've ever tried in their line. Had their Taddy Porter last night, as good as I remembered, and picked up a few Organic Pale Ales today. Also a Lindeman's Lambic Belgian sampler with the Kriek (cherry), Framboise (Raspberry), Peche (Peach) and Pomme (Apple). They are wheat beers initially fermented like normal, than fruits are added and they are essentially double fermented. Tasty.    

 
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Stayed local. Shared a couple of growlers from Hailstorm:

Prairie Madness - IPA 

Cumulus - NE style IPA. This one was really good and will be going back for another today. 

Then shared a bottle of Fresh and Shadow Pictures (Amager/Hill Farmstead collab) that was outstanding. The BA reviews do not do it justice. 

 
Thought this was interesting, considering the the hazy NEIPA craze, and the brewer who discussed it: http://beergraphs.com/bg/973-two-brewers-admit-their-methods-for-haze/

When we last talked about the main characteristics of the hazy, juicy North East IPA that have become so popular, we decided that*how* the beer was made was important to our discussion of the style.

How much of the haze came from dry-hopping? From yeast? From starches? 

Along with Fieldwork's help, we've begun looking at some of the beers under the miscrocope and it turns out that some of them are yeast bombs. There are allegations of flour being added to beers. And then there's a possiblity that *when* you dry-hop is a big deal. 

Well, now one prominent brewer has admitted to using flour. And another has given us a blow-by-blow account of how he gets the haze in his beer. 

Jean Broillet IV of Tired Hands was on the Steal This Beer Podcastrecently, and confirmed the 'flour in beer' story, at least for the milkshake series. This is what he said about Tired Hands Milkshake series, inspired by brewing with Cellarmaker and Omnipollo:

lactose sugar for heft

green apple puree

wheat flour to kettle to infuse a perma pectin haze

post-fermentation fruit

secondary fermentation post-secondary dry hop

vanilla bean 

He also mentioned 30-40% oats in the grist for the Jester King Collab, but he said in "typical Tired Hands fashion." So not only does Tired Hands use flour, but they also use oats and fruit puree. There are traditionalists that are currently shuddering. 

Over at Cerebral Brewing, there's a very similar gameplan. In theirTreatise on Haze, Cerebral outlines their approach to their hazy beers:

Modifying the brewing water to increase chloride levels and soften the mouthfeel

Adding oats, wheat and spelt for mouthfeel and body to the beer

Adding the bulk of your hot side hop additions during the whirlpool step

Dry hopping during the end of active fermentation

No filtering or cold fining

So the roadmap for the hazy NEIPA seems to include both flour and massive dry hopping at a specific moment in the brewing process, as well as less filtering. Sometimes there's going to be fruit puree in the beer. Most of the time it'll look like a hefe and not an IPA -- to the point that Cerebral has started just calling them "hoppy beers" instead of IPAs. 

Perhaps we'll get a new style guide and these beers will have to be separated out. As of now, these beers are dominating our leaderboards and message boards. And they're doing it despite being made with tactics that are new school. 

No wonder people are shaking their fists. 

 
I read that haze article last month, I don't see what the big deal is. Adding flour during the boil is no different than adding any other ingredient to get a desired effect. More power to em for figuring out how to make beers look more delicious and juicy. When I see crystal clear beers in think of Budweiser.

And Tired Hands isn't giving new info here, look up some of their beers on BA, they clearly mention wheat flour in their Milkshake series descriptions...and just because a few breweries use ithat technique doesn't mean they all do.

 
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NoDa Hop Drop 

NoDa Par 4 session IPA - pretty damn good. Need to load up on these for the next month or so I live in IL. 

Foothills - Jade

 
Denver Beer Co's Incredible Pedal IPA. ####### delicious. A lucky FBG will be getting a sixer in the T-shirt exchange. 

 
In Denver for the weekend and some good to great beers last night. 

Tropical Sucka Punch (attempt at NE IPA) by Liquid Mechanics. It was very good but not juicy or all that tropical.

Project Dank by La Cumbre which was a good IPA. Not the dank bomb I was hoping for.

Happy Birthday BOMB! Very sweet, not as good as regular bomb.

Cold Brew Coffee Barrel Noir by Almanac which I would put up against any coffee BA beer. So good.

 
Anyone have s Denver brewery or beer bar that's going to have some top notch stuff? Finding a lot of decent stuff, but was hoping for some killer beer.

 

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