What player will never be on your FF team again. (1 Viewer)

[thatguy]

Moss and Witten for sure.Moss because he basically got me knocked out of the playoffs in my league with his 'effort'. I plan to hold a grudge.If Witten fell in a draft, I guess I'd have to consider him, but given where I drafted him, he let me down pretty badly.....still valuable in a PPR league, but 2 TDs on the year (and almost no red zone targets) just isn't going to cut it. I'll let someone else deal with that garbage.

What did he have, 90 plus receptions and over 1000 yards as a TE? LOL and that's garbage? If you play this hobby long enough, you'll realize that Td's can fluctuate up and down. But if you're a TE and you're catching nearly 95 passes and are up over 1000 yards, there's a pretty good chance that his TE total will be up. Look at what he did several years back when he had solid yardage and only 1 Td? What happened after that?

Exactly. Nothing at all wrong with Witten. He should be back in the 6-8 range for TDs again next season, and if he continues to rack up the yards and receptions, he'll easily be a top 5 TE.

 

[thatguy]

morenothe guy is going to be overvalued garbage for years

I think avoiding Moreno will be a mistake. Denver's run blocking this year was pretty atrocious. It's easy to look at Buckhalter's gaudy YPC and say that Moreno's poor YPC was on him. But in truth, he had very little running room for most of the year. Buckhalter will be a year older and he is always injured. Moreno is McD's guy - McD has made that very clear - and I expect him to get 300+ carries next season and 40-50 receptions - he could easily wind up being a top 10 fantasy option. He was not used nearly enough in the passing game, yet he showed in his limited opportunities that he is a great receiver out of the backfield.I could see him having a very nice sophomore campaign of something like: 300-1200-10-40-300-3.

 

[Little Joe]

Brandon Jacobs

Made it to the title game in spite of this sloth...and the only reason he didn't cost me the title was because he was riding the pine. Never again...!!!!

 

[Mr. Mojo]

Matt Leinart.

Started him 2 weeks while Warner was out and he threw 0 TDs.

I ended up 7 points from first in my Total Points league thanks to this slob.

 

[wiersface]

I would like to take a #### in eddie royals cereal

 

[wiersface]

Braylon Edwards - If he learned to time his jumps better he could easily lead the league in drops

Awesome.

#### braylon edwards

 

[gcoast3]

unfortunatly, probably Felix Jones. I like the guy's talent a lot, but he hurt me this year. Plus, i kept him over Ray Rice as my rookie keeper, and Rice ended being top 5 in my league. I wont be keeping Jones this year.That being said, his TD yesterday and the fact that i still won the league has softened the blow. I had the same feelings towards DeAngelo williams but decided to give him one more shot last year. I was rewarded for that one. Maybe i'll take a similar plunge with Felix.

I am not sure you should have been relying on FJones in the 1st place. He was not on any teams roster in our 13-Year - 12-team League.I guess nobody should be surprised...you are a jets fan.

 

[gcoast3]

Chris Johnson. Because try as I might, I never seem to get the 1st pick in any league. Ever.

Go with an Auction League...you can buy who you want!

 

[delusional]

Chris Henry

too soon?

Ok, westbrook

 

[BassNBrew]

I never quite understood the 'I'll never draft that guy' mentality.Now granted, every year I do make up a do not draft before round X list - and almost all of them are off the list before round X. But that's a different criteria. Jacobs will be on that list somewhere next year. But if I'm looking at round 6 next year, its my RB3/4, he's still the starter, etc, you bet I'll take a chance.One of the keys to VBD (IMO) is taking one or two guys folks are down on. For instance, Driver and Mason were great values this year relative to where you could take them in a redraft. Nobody wants to take Braylon in the first 4-5 rounds next year. But is he worth taking a chance as your WR2/3 in the 7th or 8th? If he's on your 'I'll never draft that guy' list, you'll never know. But if he gets half his career high in TDs, we're talking about hitting paydirt 8 times with a middle round pick.Never say never.

This is the big boys table...while you're spot on, it's pretty much a given assumption for 99% of us.

 

[BassNBrew]

Moss and Witten for sure.Moss because he basically got me knocked out of the playoffs in my league with his 'effort'. I plan to hold a grudge.If Witten fell in a draft, I guess I'd have to consider him, but given where I drafted him, he let me down pretty badly.....still valuable in a PPR league, but 2 TDs on the year (and almost no red zone targets) just isn't going to cut it. I'll let someone else deal with that garbage.

So really just Moss for sure.Witten is a great candidate for progression to the mean. Hopefully enough guys are down on him that he'll represent value next year.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Matt Leinart.Started him 2 weeks while Warner was out and he threw 0 TDs.I ended up 7 points from first in my Total Points league thanks to this slob.

You cannot blame Leinart for this. He got 0 first team reps and didn't know he was starting til the day of the game. The team didn't ask him to do anything and tried to run more to compensate for his lack of practice time. Leinart may suck, but you can't blame him for that week.For me, guys I overvalued last year and probably won't touch againTed GinnDevin HesterBernard BerrianMatt Hasselbeck

 

[ShaqAttaq]

Jamal Lewis

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

They mean that you are sufficiently negative about the guy that there is no way that they are going to be around by the time you would be willing to draft them. ...

That is most of the draftable players.

No it isn't. You end up drafting guys you weren't targeting all the time because people slip a round or two and all of a sudden they are decent value. The "I'm never going to draft this guy" comment is referring to people who you are multiple rounds more negative on than their expected ADP. You are not multiple rounds negative on most of the draftable players.

Who drafts against the ADP? By well before the midpoint of every draft I've ever been in the players I am drafting "are multiple rounds more negative on than their expected" valuation that I have made which continues until I run out of roster space and am forced to make the roster legal. In my experience the first 20 or so picks tend to be consensus on the who (not the order) and then after that opinions vary widely on the values of the rest of the players. At that point I'm hoping I'm correct in my valuations and everyone else is reaching. Usually it ends up a mix bag. So yes most draftable players fit your definition of "sufficiently negative about the guy that there is no way that they are going to be around by the time you would be willing to draft them". Maybe I just do things differently from you, or even everyone else, but I think the statement is true per my drafting and my drafts.

 

[JJP]

Brandon Jacobs

Made it to the title game in spite of this sloth...and the only reason he didn't cost me the title was because he was riding the pine. Never again...!!!!

Absolutely. He ruined TWO teams for me this past season.

 

[JJP]

Matt Leinart.Started him 2 weeks while Warner was out and he threw 0 TDs.I ended up 7 points from first in my Total Points league thanks to this slob.

Leinart cannot play in this league. He is going to get one of his receivers killed. Its one thing to have a weak arm, IF its accurate. Its another thing to be have a great arm but not so accurate. Leinart is neither accurate or strong-armed. He throws those little floaters into double coverage, he lays his WRs out, he throws behind them.

 

[cheese]

Matt Hasselbeck... His flashes of great games against solid teams followed by complete stinkers against bad teams and coming out of games early have messed up my lineup decisions in multiple seasons. I'm done with him. Even if he started the year with back to back 4TD games, I wouldn't trust him to not go for 100/0/0 the next week.

 

[shredhead]

Brandon Jacobs

Made it to the title game in spite of this sloth...and the only reason he didn't cost me the title was because he was riding the pine. Never again...!!!!

Absolutely. He ruined TWO teams for me this past season.

Funny thing is, I took Jacobs in the 3rd round. Everybody moaned when I took him. Everyone thought I got good value with that pick. He was one of many reasons I was 1 and done for the playoffs in that league. Funny how you can leave a draft thinking you did really well, and then stuff happens and your whole team underperforms. 1)DeAngelo (injuries, good at times) 2) Brees (solid) 3) Jacobs (underperformed) 4) Jennings (killed me) 5) Witten (underperformed) 6) Anthony Gonzalez (injury) I'm amazed I even mad the playoffs in that league.

 

[Jeremy]

Carson "not even against Detroit" Palmer. I think too many years toiling in Cincinatti have destroyed him mentally and physically.

 

[comet909]

I'll never get VD again.

I usually wait to draft a Tight End and he won't fall next year.

 

[bweiser]

not again, but i will never own colt mccoy.

 

[Bossman]

any WR in OAK, BUF or CLE

 

[KellysHeroes]

I wouldn't say never... but guys that lost serious value to me

Jacobs

Royal (not the player... the fing system and QB)

Calvin - his ADP will be to high as always

Coles - he's done

 

[BigTex]

Wow, no mention of Clinton Portis yet?

Thank you, he was the first to come to my mind.

 

[Donnybrook]

I will never say never but I can't imagine me drafting or trading for Sanchez.