What would happen if I fought a featherweight boxer? (1 Viewer)

[JZilla]

could put us up for a little street match between matuski and Rudy Perez?

Maybe against Rudy Perez http://www.rudyperez.com/But not the boxer.

Good video explaining what would be happening in matski's brain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKRdUoyUEp4...ted&search=

Kinetic energy and the transferral of it is a skill. And a professional boxer has that skill to a level few humans in the universe do. Size certianly matters as the video says. But even a lighter guy would have enough power to put our FBGer eating with a straw for a long time.

J

NahI really don't think those guys are strong enough. You can't convince me that they are. I've watched too many featherweight fights. They'd have to throw too many punches, even to take out someone their own size. Those guys have pastrami for arms. I have more muscle just from lifting my fat ### out of bed.

Too weak to strike a quick blow on an opponent of that superior size. The opponent would have to really, really suck to get beaten down by one of these girls.

It would be interesting jzilla to see what kind of force these guys can generate. I bet with all the TV stuff around these days. someone has that data about how much force a featherweight punch generates. It's as much about the legs as it is the arm. These guys crack a punch like a whip. It's a very different skill. I boxed for a couple of years in college and was no good. But the lesson I learned is that it's unbelievably hard to do what the pros do. Everyone thinks they can. And most can't hold their gloves up after 1 round.

The 'tough guy' competitions are the best where they let regular guys fight. It's a joke for most of these guys.

J

I just can't see a guy of that small a stature, only being trained in the art of ring boxing (not kung fu, etc), beating someone that much bigger than him in a no-holds-barred fight. Obviously a lot depends on the opponent. In this case, honestly, I'm thinking myself but in a little better shape. And yes I think I would win. And I have no training.Featherweights = too weak.

 

[Pygmy Marmoset]

Surely this isn't the first time this has come up...

has there not been a promoter out there crazy enough to put an amateur against a small pro?

It would be because of what I'm saying. It'd be a total trainwreck of a mismatch.No promoter would ever touch that. It'd be like fighting a girl for them.

J

Which, if in the same weight class, would be much more interesting.

 

[matuski]

Surely this isn't the first time this has come up...has there not been a promoter out there crazy enough to put an amateur against a small pro?

It would be because of what I'm saying. It'd be a total trainwreck of a mismatch.No promoter would ever touch that. It'd be like fighting a girl for them.J

Put your promoter hat on Joe.All I want is a 25% cut!

 

[Da Guru]

I went to a toughman contest in Detroit at Cobo Hall in the late 80s.

There was a guy who looked like a tough Grizzy Adams walking around.

The guy looked like the baddest man in the whole event. The first fight was Grizzly who was about 6-5 275 LBs against a guy who looked to be about 5-9 160-170 LBS.

I am thinking..what a mismatch. The little guy came out and popped Grizzly about 5 times in the face and nose..it ended up Grizzly was in the corner with his back to the ring and the little guy was landing about 50 punches a minute on his face.

Grizzly quit before the first rd was over.

 

[JZilla]

I went to a toughman contest in Detroit at Cobo Hall in the late 80s.There was a guy who looked like a tough Grizzy Adams walking around.The guy looked like the baddest man in the whole event. The first fight was Grizzly who was about 6-5 275 LBs against a guy who looked to be about 5-9 160-170 LBS.I am thinking..what a mismatch. The little guy came out and popped Grizzly about 5 times in the face and nose..it ended up Grizzly was in the corner with his back to the ring and the little guy was landing about 50 punches a minute on his face.Grizzly quit before the first rd was over.

Good for him. Where does the 125-pounder come into play?

 

[mr. furley]

could put us up for a little street match between matuski and Rudy Perez?

Maybe against Rudy Perez http://www.rudyperez.com/But not the boxer.

Good video explaining what would be happening in matski's brain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKRdUoyUEp4...ted&search=

Kinetic energy and the transferral of it is a skill. And a professional boxer has that skill to a level few humans in the universe do. Size certianly matters as the video says. But even a lighter guy would have enough power to put our FBGer eating with a straw for a long time.

J

NahI really don't think those guys are strong enough. You can't convince me that they are. I've watched too many featherweight fights. They'd have to throw too many punches, even to take out someone their own size. Those guys have pastrami for arms. I have more muscle just from lifting my fat ### out of bed.

Too weak to strike a quick blow on an opponent of that superior size. The opponent would have to really, really suck to get beaten down by one of these girls.

those guys are ALL muscle. seriously. they're strong as ####. just cause they aren't KO'ing their opponent doesn't mean a #### thing.

i'd say some of the difference in why Heavy's seem to KO each other more often is because the division is rife with a lot of under-qualified boxers. there are maybe 2-3 legit fighters and the rest are palookas.

 

[mr. furley]

It would be hard to muster anything extra standing on the milk crate they would need to reach a guy that much taller.

punch in the ribs might hurt. i'm just sayin

 

[shake zula]

Is this still going on?

 

[Pygmy Marmoset]

could put us up for a little street match between matuski and Rudy Perez?

Maybe against Rudy Perez http://www.rudyperez.com/But not the boxer.

Good video explaining what would be happening in matski's brain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKRdUoyUEp4...ted&search=

Kinetic energy and the transferral of it is a skill. And a professional boxer has that skill to a level few humans in the universe do. Size certianly matters as the video says. But even a lighter guy would have enough power to put our FBGer eating with a straw for a long time.

J

NahI really don't think those guys are strong enough. You can't convince me that they are. I've watched too many featherweight fights. They'd have to throw too many punches, even to take out someone their own size. Those guys have pastrami for arms. I have more muscle just from lifting my fat ### out of bed.

Too weak to strike a quick blow on an opponent of that superior size. The opponent would have to really, really suck to get beaten down by one of these girls.

those guys are ALL muscle. seriously. they're strong as ####. just cause they aren't KO'ing their opponent doesn't mean a #### thing.

i'd say some of the difference in why Heavy's seem to KO each other more often is because the division is rife with a lot of under-qualified boxers. there are maybe 2-3 legit fighters and the rest are palookas.

Seriously. Also, the higher up you go in weight classes, the more likely you are to find the Tex Winter style boxer who wants to stand there and get his ### beat in for a minute to psych the other guy out.

 

[Otis]

I think some people are overestimating 115 pounds.

Do me a favor. Think back to high school. Remember that hot cheerleader? You know, the one in your smack bank for four years, and who was half your size?

Yeah. She weighed 115 pounds.

HTH

 

[mr. furley]

cheerleaders are pro boxers now?

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

I am your size (6'2", 225lbs) and I have had this debate with friends many times.I say with certainty I can woop any 5ft nothing 115-125lb guy pretty much regardless of boxing or other skills.It would be like fighting a fourth grade boxer.

I just consider it common sense. It is why weight classes exist.

Where do you believe your cutoff is? Do you think you could beat Mayweather? You've got over 75 lbs. on him. How about Ricky Hatton at 140? And are you talking about just in boxing?

Talking a straight fight. I would be allowed to use the advantages my size and reach gives me.I'm not trying to be macho - I'm just saying. I don't think it is a stretch at all...ETA - no idea where the cutoff would be. Huge difference though from a 5'1" 125lb to a 5'8/9" 150lb. guy. The question was about featherweights.. so I will stick to that.

I grew up with this guy Buddy McGirt, 135 lbs.

No you didn't.

 

[Otis]

cheerleaders are pro boxers now?

I bet nuclear warheads weight about 115 pounds too. Featherweights are closer to cheerleaders than nuclear warheads though.

 

[Pygmy Marmoset]

I think some people are overestimating 115 pounds.Do me a favor. Think back to high school. Remember that hot cheerleader? You know, the one in your smack bank for four years, and who was half your size?Yeah. She weighed 115 pounds.HTH

I thought we were talking about featherweight.

 

[Doug B]

One way to look at the OP is to start with an extreme case, and then whittle away at it and see what we end up with.

Here's what I mean: let's start with a hypothetical boxing match between a featherweight champ and one of the Klitschko brothers. Can the featherweight beat Klitschko? I can assume we'd all say "no", right? For now, let's ignore that the featherweight might be able to avoid Klitschko all night and avoid getting hit -- featherweight would still lose on a decision.

OK ... now let's take the same two guys in a UFC-style match. I hope we can all agree that Klitschko wins with little effort.

Now, what's the point? Let's take away of Klitschko's ability and experience, and move him closer to the size of an average guy. How does a guy with 95% of Klitschko's experience/athleticism/size/etc fare against the featherweight?

Answer that in your head and keep working down. Where's the breaking point where the featherweight finally has the advantage on the larger opponent?

Something else to consider -- some say boxing is a skill. And it is. Some say you've got to be "in boxing shape". And you do ... usually. But can some other kind of shape make up for it? Let's take Dan Severn from the early UFC days. IIRC, the guy had almost no striking background at the time, but was a highly accomplished wrestler. Severn was around 270 lbs, but wasn't super tall (6 ft even? Maybe 6'1"?). Could the featherweight champ take out Severn in a boxing match, with boxing rules? I'm not so sure ... it would probably often end in a decision for the featherweight, who would land blows, but none with enough force to down Severn. So how much does Severn's lack of boxing skill cost him if he's still standing and ready to rumble after 12 rounds? Would it be the wrestling background that helps Severn carry on and stand in, thereby suggesting that some kind of combat training can substitute for boxing skill?

 

[Blackhawk 69]

OK.

It is clear everyone dismisses 6-10 inches and 100lbs as being no advantage.

I don't get it but fine.

At what point is size/weight/strength an advantage?

What if it is 16 inches and 150lbs?

Your 6'2" minus 16"= 4'10"225lbs minus 150lbs = 75lbs

4'10" 75lbs?

 

[mr. furley]

One way to look at the OP is to start with an extreme case, and then whittle away at it and see what we end up with.

Here's what I mean: let's start with a hypothetical boxing match between a featherweight champ and one of the Klitschko brothers. Can the featherweight beat Klitschko? I can assume we'd all say "no", right? For now, let's ignore that the featherweight might be able to avoid Klitschko all night and avoid getting hit -- featherweight would still lose on a decision.

OK ... now let's take the same two guys in a UFC-style match. I hope we can all agree that Klitschko wins with little effort.

Now, what's the point? Let's take away of Klitschko's ability and experience, and move him closer to the size of an average guy. How does a guy with 95% of Klitschko's experience/athleticism/size/etc fare against the featherweight?

Answer that in your head and keep working down. Where's the breaking point where the featherweight finally has the advantage on the larger opponent?

Something else to consider -- some say boxing is a skill. And it is. Some say you've got to be "in boxing shape". And you do ... usually. But can some other kind of shape make up for it? Let's take Dan Severn from the early UFC days. IIRC, the guy had almost no striking background at the time, but was a highly accomplished wrestler. Severn was around 270 lbs, but wasn't super tall (6 ft even? Maybe 6'1"?). Could the featherweight champ take out Severn in a boxing match, with boxing rules? I'm not so sure ... it would probably often end in a decision for the featherweight, who would land blows, but none with enough force to down Severn. So how much does Severn's lack of boxing skill cost him if he's still standing and ready to rumble after 12 rounds? Would it be the wrestling background that helps Severn carry on and stand in, thereby suggesting that some kind of combat training can substitute for boxing skill?

eh?

 

[Doug B]

OK.

It is clear everyone dismisses 6-10 inches and 100lbs as being no advantage.

I don't get it but fine.

At what point is size/weight/strength an advantage?

What if it is 16 inches and 150lbs?

Your 6'2" minus 16"= 4'10"225lbs minus 150lbs = 75lbs

4'10" 75lbs?

Well, again, let's start from the extremes. How does Shaquille O'Neal fare against the featherweight champ in a boxing match and a UFC match? Ben Wallace? Antonio Gates? Ray Lewis?

 

[Doug B]

eh?

OK ... I'll simplify:Some in this thread are implying (without saying so directly) that the featherweight champ can pretty much kick any human's butt in a boxing ring, so long as that human -- regardless of size -- is untrained in boxing.

I doubt that's true -- at some point, sheer size begins to matter.

EDIT: I'm assuming a decent level of athleticism and coordination from the non-boxer here, preferably from some form of sports. Also a basic level of courage and toughness -- a couch potato who's never had to defend himself physically in his life would be dead meat against any halfway determined opponent. The key for me is that specifically the guy doesn't have boxing skill, not that he's non-athletic, as well. The OP implied that he pretty much met the criteria.

 

[the moops]

But seriously. Those guys are basically jockeys.

JZilla makes a pretty decent point here.

at the FFA so decisively declaring a victory for the guy who weighs less than girls I date (and I'm a skinny snob).

Sorry, but someone has to tell you.140 lb chicks are not skinny.

I think you have been dating some fatties.

 

[NCCommish]

One way to look at the OP is to start with an extreme case, and then whittle away at it and see what we end up with.

Here's what I mean: let's start with a hypothetical boxing match between a featherweight champ and one of the Klitschko brothers. Can the featherweight beat Klitschko? I can assume we'd all say "no", right? For now, let's ignore that the featherweight might be able to avoid Klitschko all night and avoid getting hit -- featherweight would still lose on a decision.

OK ... now let's take the same two guys in a UFC-style match. I hope we can all agree that Klitschko wins with little effort.

Now, what's the point? Let's take away of Klitschko's ability and experience, and move him closer to the size of an average guy. How does a guy with 95% of Klitschko's experience/athleticism/size/etc fare against the featherweight?

Answer that in your head and keep working down. Where's the breaking point where the featherweight finally has the advantage on the larger opponent?

Something else to consider -- some say boxing is a skill. And it is. Some say you've got to be "in boxing shape". And you do ... usually. But can some other kind of shape make up for it? Let's take Dan Severn from the early UFC days. IIRC, the guy had almost no striking background at the time, but was a highly accomplished wrestler. Severn was around 270 lbs, but wasn't super tall (6 ft even? Maybe 6'1"?). Could the featherweight champ take out Severn in a boxing match, with boxing rules? I'm not so sure ... it would probably often end in a decision for the featherweight, who would land blows, but none with enough force to down Severn. So how much does Severn's lack of boxing skill cost him if he's still standing and ready to rumble after 12 rounds? Would it be the wrestling background that helps Severn carry on and stand in, thereby suggesting that some kind of combat training can substitute for boxing skill?

Come on we are talking regular guys not a guy who set collegiate records as a wrestler. Won what 10+ AAU championships? Of course his experience and training makes him a whole different proposal.I see Matusuki has had some training and I'll reiterate what I said before, in a limited space he should have a shot. But he will probably only get one chance to get it right and I would still be betting on the Pro. If the featherweight can move Matusuki will never touch him and will get punished in the attempt.

And I don't know what fights other people are watching but I have seen KOs in featherweight fights. I have also seen some where guys didn't look so hot when they got out of the ring. I have a feeling their ability to break your nose is being sorely underestimated.

 

[Capn Crunch]

I boxed a bit when I was younger. How do you think I got this name, anyway? I was feeling pretty good about myself until I sparred with a quick-as-lightning lightweight and he rapid fired about 20 punches to my head in what felt like 7 seconds. After that fight I put on a blue uniform, plopped my ### on a boat, started making cereal and looking for Crunchberries. You tell me that isn't brain damage.

The same people who think they'd have a chance at whipping a professional boxer are the same people who think they could strike out Barry Bonds. You'll have a 1:1000 chance of succeeding, but my doubloons are on the trained athlete every time.

 

[Joe Bryant]

eh?

OK ... I'll simplify:Some in this thread are implying (without saying so directly) that the featherweight champ can pretty much kick any human's butt in a boxing ring, so long as that human -- regardless of size -- is untrained in boxing.

I doubt that's true -- at some point, sheer size begins to matter.

I'd agree with you there dougb. I don't know where that "line" is either. But I'm pretty certain it's on the far side of 6' 2" / 225 for a guy with average physicals and training.J

 

[Doug B]

Come on we are talking regular guys not a guy who set collegiate records as a wrestler. Won what 10+ AAU championships? Of course his experience and training makes him a whole different proposal.

Agreed ... bringing up Severn was something of a tangent, aimed indirectly at something Dentist posted on p 1. He had first brought up the importance of boxing skill. I wanted to get some agreement that other kinds of skills are substitutable.

 

[McBokonon]

Any chance we can get FBG to sponsor a fight between some 2-31 featherweight journeyman and matuski?

 

[Joe Bryant]

One way to look at the OP is to start with an extreme case, and then whittle away at it and see what we end up with.

Here's what I mean: let's start with a hypothetical boxing match between a featherweight champ and one of the Klitschko brothers. Can the featherweight beat Klitschko? I can assume we'd all say "no", right? For now, let's ignore that the featherweight might be able to avoid Klitschko all night and avoid getting hit -- featherweight would still lose on a decision.

OK ... now let's take the same two guys in a UFC-style match. I hope we can all agree that Klitschko wins with little effort.

Now, what's the point? Let's take away of Klitschko's ability and experience, and move him closer to the size of an average guy. How does a guy with 95% of Klitschko's experience/athleticism/size/etc fare against the featherweight?

Answer that in your head and keep working down. Where's the breaking point where the featherweight finally has the advantage on the larger opponent?

Something else to consider -- some say boxing is a skill. And it is. Some say you've got to be "in boxing shape". And you do ... usually. But can some other kind of shape make up for it? Let's take Dan Severn from the early UFC days. IIRC, the guy had almost no striking background at the time, but was a highly accomplished wrestler. Severn was around 270 lbs, but wasn't super tall (6 ft even? Maybe 6'1"?). Could the featherweight champ take out Severn in a boxing match, with boxing rules? I'm not so sure ... it would probably often end in a decision for the featherweight, who would land blows, but none with enough force to down Severn. So how much does Severn's lack of boxing skill cost him if he's still standing and ready to rumble after 12 rounds? Would it be the wrestling background that helps Severn carry on and stand in, thereby suggesting that some kind of combat training can substitute for boxing skill?

Come on we are talking regular guys not a guy who set collegiate records as a wrestler. Won what 10+ AAU championships? Of course his experience and training makes him a whole different proposal.I see Matusuki has had some training and I'll reiterate what I said before, in a limited space he should have a shot. But he will probably only get one chance to get it right and I would still be betting on the Pro. If the featherweight can move Matusuki will never touch him and will get punished in the attempt.

And I don't know what fights other people are watching but I have seen KOs in featherweight fights. I have also seen some where guys didn't look so hot when they got out of the ring. I have a feeling their ability to break your nose is being sorely underestimated.

Vincent Coccotti said it well:

That smarts, doesn't it? Getting slammed in the nose. [edit] You get that pain shootin' through your brain, your eyes fill up with water. That ain't any kind of fun, but what I have to offer you, that's as good as it's gonna get.

J

 

[flapgreen]

cheerleaders are pro boxers now?

Looks that way.

 

[Doug B]

I'd agree with you there dougb. I don't know where that "line" is either. But I'm pretty certain it's on the far side of 6' 2" / 225 for a guy with average physicals and training.

That's why I mentioned Shaq ... that was the biggest athletic guy I can think. Yao is taller, but not as massive.Maybe Dalip Singh, the wrestler (north of 7 feet, and well over 3 bills) ... though I think he actually was a boxer at one time.

 

[top dog]

cheerleaders are pro boxers now?

I bet nuclear warheads weight about 115 pounds too. Featherweights are closer to cheerleaders than nuclear warheads though.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I'd agree with you there dougb. I don't know where that "line" is either. But I'm pretty certain it's on the far side of 6' 2" / 225 for a guy with average physicals and training.

That's why I mentioned Shaq ... that was the biggest athletic guy I can think. Yao is taller, but not as massive.Maybe Dalip Singh, the wrestler (north of 7 feet, and well over 3 bills) ... though I think he actually was a boxer at one time.

Anyone remember Ed "Too Tall" Jones trying to move from the NFL to the ring? Wasn't pretty. And relevant to the question. Size matters. To an extent. Lots and lots of little guys can do some serious damage though. It seems to me that people are totally underestimating the force these guys can generate. It has little to do with weight and lots to do with understanding kinetic chain and force. These guys are good at it.J

 

[Doug B]

I see Matusuki has had some training and I'll reiterate what I said before, in a limited space he should have a shot.

You know ... it occured to me that you could present an extreme case of "limited space" and perhaps work out how confined of a space is needed before the big non-boxer has an advantage over the little boxer. Say they fought in a broom closet? The back seat of a sedan? How much space does the bozer actually need?

 

[Joe Bryant]

For some of these guys, the glove is like the end of a whip that is popped. Very different from something like a hook that is tons more power and biceps and lats.

Same with some of these skinny golfers and baseball pitchers.

J

 

[NCCommish]

Come on we are talking regular guys not a guy who set collegiate records as a wrestler. Won what 10+ AAU championships? Of course his experience and training makes him a whole different proposal.

Agreed ... bringing up Severn was something of a tangent, aimed indirectly at something Dentist posted on p 1. He had first brought up the importance of boxing skill. I wanted to get some agreement that other kinds of skills are substitutable.

Sure they are. Especially now that we moved it to the street. A Severn should eat a featherweight for lunch in a street fight. These guys aren't Severn. I'm not a big guy but I have won some bar fights because there are no rules. But that was against other semi-drunk idiots with limited/no training. Not a pro or a well trained amateur.I just look at a guy like Daniel Ponce De Leon who is quite the puncher with 25+ KOs. 122 lbs or so. And I think that guy is going to take apart the average guy even a FBG. This assumes some room to move and average guy with perhaps a little training but not much experience. And I think that includes 6'2" average guys.

 

[Doug B]

Anyone remember Ed "Too Tall" Jones trying to move from the NFL to the ring? Wasn't pretty.

Granted, Jones wasn't fighting Holmes or Spinks ... but he was undefeated in six bouts, five by KO.

 

[Pygmy Marmoset]

Come on we are talking regular guys not a guy who set collegiate records as a wrestler. Won what 10+ AAU championships? Of course his experience and training makes him a whole different proposal.

Agreed ... bringing up Severn was something of a tangent, aimed indirectly at something Dentist posted on p 1. He had first brought up the importance of boxing skill. I wanted to get some agreement that other kinds of skills are substitutable.

Shaq's trained in hand to hand combat. Can't you tell from his on-court fights?

 

[NCCommish]

I see Matusuki has had some training and I'll reiterate what I said before, in a limited space he should have a shot.

You know ... it occured to me that you could present an extreme case of "limited space" and perhaps work out how confined of a space is needed before the big non-boxer has an advantage over the little boxer. Say they fought in a broom closet? The back seat of a sedan? How much space does the bozer actually need?

I meant more the ability to start close and get on top of the boxer. In a crowded bar you may as well be in closet at some points.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Anyone remember Ed "Too Tall" Jones trying to move from the NFL to the ring? Wasn't pretty.

Granted, Jones wasn't fighting Holmes or Spinks ... but he was undefeated in six bouts, five by KO.

No, they weren't Holmes or Spinks. The 6 guys he fought had a combined 25 wins among them. It was ugly and he would have been slaughtered by a real boxer like Holmes.J

 

[bakes]

For some of these guys, the glove is like the end of a whip that is popped. Very different from something like a hook that is tons more power and biceps and lats.

Same with some of these skinny golfers and baseball pitchers.

J

Funny how it doesn't matter if a guy's 6'5" and 300 lbs or 5'4" and 140 lbs - noses don't carry much muscle. The smaller, quicker fighter would dance around, wait for his shot, nail Mr. Big FBG square in the schnozz like a sniper, quick flurry, fight over.

 

[Doug B]

Shaq's trained in hand to hand combat. Can't you tell from his on-court fights?

Hey, he's a reserve police officer, too

 

[Hov34]

He'd hit you and you'd hit the floor.Next question??

Two hits?

 

[Tom Cody]

Anyone remember Ed "Too Tall" Jones trying to move from the NFL to the ring? Wasn't pretty.

Granted, Jones wasn't fighting Holmes or Spinks ... but he was undefeated in six bouts, five by KO.

The reason 'Too Tall' retired after that last fight with Gonzales(W-10)was that he was floored in the fight by a guy at least a foot and a half shorter than him and he should have lost the decision.

 

[LHUCKS]

This really needs to be a reality TV show...have an average sized man get in the ring with a featherweight, or even a street brawl...pure comedy.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

In a boxing match, the featherweight would destroy the 200 pounder.

In a NHB fight, it would be a toss up. If the 200 pounder tried to fight him standing up, he'd get pounded, but if he charged the featherweight and took the fight to the ground, he'd be a strong favorite.

I'm assuming the 200 pounder is in good shape.

 

[Vintage_Football]

For some of these guys, the glove is like the end of a whip that is popped. Very different from something like a hook that is tons more power and biceps and lats.

Same with some of these skinny golfers and baseball pitchers.

J

Funny how it doesn't matter if a guy's 6'5" and 300 lbs or 5'4" and 140 lbs - noses don't carry much muscle. The smaller, quicker fighter would dance around, wait for his shot, nail Mr. Big FBG square in the schnozz like a sniper, quick flurry, fight over.

omg hahaha I don't think so scooter. I'm 6'2" 290lbs, and there is no way i'm gonna let a 5'4" 140lbs guy knock me down, much less out. Please, no need to counter-argue thx.

 

[Limp Dogg Bizkits]

I'm guessing it would would go just like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjAEDOFnkik

 

[Limp Dogg Bizkits]

Watch this then come back and tell me how you would do. These guys are so fast and their ungloved fist would cut you to pieces. They would hit you in the ribs and break your rib ans before you went down they would break your face in about 3 places.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USIMFePsolE

 

[MrBlonde]

I've boxed, kick-boxed (muay thai) and have done Brazilian Jujitsu for the last 4 years. I'm 5'8" 135 so i'm pretty comparable weightwise to these "little girl jockies". I by no means am a great fighter but i have plenty of experience and i will state that size+weight does matter. It matters WHEN the other person has had training. Without any training i just see a serious whooping issued by the professional.

I've destroyed a couple of my friends in the ring who have been much larger (5'10 185, 6'0 205, 6'2 235) who have had NO training. Admittedly the only one who was in decent shape was the 185 pound guy (personal trainer) but they all still believed size is the end all be all of fighting. If you've never been in a fight, never been hit, never been trained. Well... do it. You'll be quite surprised. Like the quote goes "everyone has a plan until they get hit". You really have to get used to getting hit and being in these situations.

It's amazing how quickly you get gassed. Adrenaline dumps are NOT a myth. Skill is a great equalizer in fighting. Now to the people saying that the featherweight 125 lbers couldn't hurt them with their little girly slaps... Well i would be willing to bet that they could. I weigh 135 and i CAN knock out a 235 pound guy. Am i saying i can knock out Matsuki or any 225 pounder? No. I'm saying that a 135 pound guy can knock out a 235 pound can who has no training. So i'm assuming a 125 lb pro can knock out someone who's 225. Honestly i buckled the knees of the guy who was 205 with a good stiff jab. People who have no idea how to fight are really quite pathetic the first time. It's really about speed and short, tight punches. Learning to tuck your chin and keeping your hands up which you won't are also critical.

Anyhow, in a boxing match i say it's a virtual lock for the featherweight (but in boxing there always is the punchers chance).

In a street fight with limited room well that's different. If the pro hasn't had any take-down or ground work experience (most won't) and the amateur is pretty athletic and strong i might go with the amateur depending on the guy(any wrestling or football experience, etc).

And by the way... Punching isn't about how much muscle you have. It's about torque and core.

 

[The Z Machine]

Boxing Match - Featherweight KOs (not TKO) 95% of the average FBGs. The other 5% have granite domes and a high tolerance for pain, but will likely throw in the towel due to fatigue. Featherwieght wins on decision 100% of the time. Fight goes the distance (12 rounds, <1% of the time). (Odds, 1000:1)

Street Fight - Featherweight KOs 75% of the average FBGs. Only those with some combat training and some with a whole lot of luck stand a chance here. Chance for broken bones on the FBG is about 100% (fingers, wrist, ribs, face, etc.). FBG KOs Featherweight 2-5% of the time in a ground and pound scenario. The other 20% give up and run. (Odds: 20:1)

Bar fight - Average FBG has his best shot here due the confined space and the availability of props and intervening bystanders. AFBG wins this about 5% of the time, with the Featherweight winning by KO about 35% of the time. Cops / management / others break it up 60% of the time before it goes the distance. (Odds, 10:1)

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[Vintage_Football]

If a man weighs 125 to 135, he better hope i NEVER hit him.....100% of the time k.

 

[Irish]

I already stated Pacquaio is 130 lbs. You don't think he would knock you out with a shot to the chin? It makes it easier to discuss if you put a face on it instead of talking about 5'1" jockeys.If you're talking about a street fight - there isn't a 125 class in MMA, but there is a long list of guys 150 and under who would seriously damage the average untrained 225 lber. In any real gym, they will have sparred with the heavyweights on a regular basis. Kid Yamamoto is about 145 and would mess you up. Olympic level wrestling, heavy hands and a mean streak.

I would give myself good odds with the likes of Pacquiao. He is listed at 5'6" 126lbs, in the pictures I call serious BS on the 5'6" part - he BARELY clears the top ropes. IN A STREET FIGHT (as in I would not box with him).Once you get to 150lb range, I have made no claims about that.5'8"-5'11" 150lbs >>>>>>>>> 5'2"-5'6" 125lbs. No comparison.

This is good schtick.