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When Was the Last Time You Met a Real Open Racist? (1 Viewer)

I reffed basketball at a camp with a 50 year old white dude that dropped the N-word twice in casual conversation.  Was kind of surreal.

 
(As I've mentioned on here several times, I'm a black gay guy who's also 6'5, 280) 

Every black doctor/resident/medical student I've spoken to has said it's inevitable. 

There's always gonna be some patient, mostly likely over the age of 70, that doesn't want a n##### touching them. They don't care how highly qualified or trained you are. 

Theres also the liberal racism. I get told all the time how surprisingly "well spoken" I am. 

Maybe im being extra, but I don't think a petite white or Asian guy would get told that. 

 
A few months back- I was at my in laws and decided to go for a walk and took my 3 year old with me. After a bit we came across a guy walking his dogs and we ended up talking. It was the day after St. Patty's and it became evident quickly that this guy was still full of the spirits from the night before. As we were talking, he gave my kid a couple of toys (apparently he imports them and then sells them at trade shows) for free. There were a couple of comments using the 'n' word and welfare. I then basically ended the conversation and left. Up to that point, a nice guy but definitely drunk. I have heard racist comments which usually use 'black' or whatever else. It had been a very long time since I heard the 'n' word used like that. I wonder if the guy was too drunk to notice that my son is half Filipino or if that matters. Then again I have said that my kids can 'pass' for being fully white so maybe he just didn't notice. 

 
(As I've mentioned on here several times, I'm a black gay guy who's also 6'5, 280) 

Every black doctor/resident/medical student I've spoken to has said it's inevitable. 

There's always gonna be some patient, mostly likely over the age of 70, that doesn't want a n##### touching them. They don't care how highly qualified or trained you are. 

Theres also the liberal racism. I get told all the time how surprisingly "well spoken" I am. 

Maybe im being extra, but I don't think a petite white or Asian guy would get told that. 
If it makes you feel better- my Australian friend gets complimented on how well he speaks English all the time. 

 
The most racist people I've been around are black cops.  Racist to their own race, assuming that is possible.
In banking- the people that I have seen be the most racist in making decisions have been blacks to other blacks. In a very long career in banking, I can't recall ever seeing something happen that was done with heavy influence of race except for several times when a black employee made decisions because the customer was black. 

 
In banking- the people that I have seen be the most racist in making decisions have been blacks to other blacks. In a very long career in banking, I can't recall ever seeing something happen that was done with heavy influence of race except for several times when a black employee made decisions because the customer was black. 
Can you give us an example of one of these decisions?

 
Every now and then my father in law will say something racist against "The Chinese".

I've mostly heard racist comments by Latinos against blacks or blacks against just about everyone.

Hell...didn't Lavar Ball just openly say that UCLA lost the title because the team had too many white guys?

 
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I reffed basketball at a camp with a 50 year old white dude that dropped the N-word twice in casual conversation. Was kind of surreal.
When I was in high school, our Government class attended a town hall by one of our local state representatives. He started the meeting by giving a speech about his background, biography, etc. He told us about his 20 years as a high school referee and how much it taught him about leadership and how it inspired him to run for political office, etc. Then out of the blue he randomly commented, "But I never did enjoy working the inner-city games. Too much N-word talk between the players."

 
If you work in Boston, there's a racist Batsignal. Break something in your office. The carpenter/electrician/HVAC guy will absolutely be a red-faced, Irish skinhead who will use a word like 'junglebunny' or "diapahhead' or 'nancyboy' or do a "choychoychongchong" bucktoothed Asian impression or gay lisp, then give you a "amirite" nod in the first minute of his appearance.

 
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My father was always openly racist.  Refereed to African Americans as "Mondays".. "Because everyone hates Mondays!"  :wall:  He's in his eighties now.  I remember hearing the story of when my older sister was very young (this would have been in the 60s) she had a birthday party and "Charlie" was on the list.  Well, Charlie was an African American girl.  HE WAS LIVID.  Had to leave the house for the party as he was SO upset to have a "colored" in the house.

  When I was in high school I had a car stereo system stolen out of my car.  He blamed the one black family on the street.  I was like "Dad!  You can't just blame them because they are black!".  Funny side note on this was that years later one of the brothers of said family told me that it was his younger brother that DID steal my stereo.  NO way was I telling pops he was correct!  Another time I was drunk with some friends and we accidentally broke down his favorite bush that was in the front yard.  Think it was a lilac bush or something.. Doesn't matter.. I took it a few streets away and dumped it.  Next morning I walked into the livingroom where he was rocking in his chair and casually looked outside... "DAD!  SOMEONE STOLE YOUR BUSH!!!!".  He jumped up, looked out there and said, "Dammit! Those N'rs will steal anything!"

Over the years he started coming around.  I'd like to think it was because the three guys I hung out with through high school, 1 was bi-racial and the other 2 were African American... Or maybe because I ended up marrying a woman who had a bi-racial baby that he considers his grandson.  Regardless, you could start to see the change in his beliefs..

Fast forward 20 years.. He now gives my 15 year old son a ride home from school everyday... Many times with his friend from down the street who is African American.  My son is telling this story in front of him how my dad threatened to throw this other friend (white kid who rides home sometimes) out of the car for making a comment that was "kind of racist" in the car.  ME:  :confused: :confused:  "What is this now Dad?!"  He says, "I'm not going to tolerate that kind of racist behavior in my car!"  I couldn't help but respond with "Not in your car?  I guess you house is still ok?".  He just responded with "I don't know what you are talking about."

Yes, there are still openly and overt racist folks out there.  Some of them are people we love.  I believe with each generation it is less and less though.  And that is a good thing.

 
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My father was always openly racist.  Refereed to African Americans as "Mondays".. "Because everyone hates Mondays!"  :wall:  He's in his eighties now.  I remember hearing the story of when my older sister was very young (this would have been in the 60s) she had a birthday party and "Charlie" was on the list.  Well, Charlie was an African American girl.  HE WAS LIVID.  Had to leave the house for the party as he was SO upset to have a "colored" in the house.

  When I was in high school I had a car stereo system stolen out of my car.  He blamed the one black family on the street.  I was like "Dad!  You can't just blame them because they are black!".  Funny side note on this was that years later one of the brothers of said family told me that it was his younger brother that DID steal my stereo.  NO way was I telling pops he was correct!  Another time I was drunk with some friends and we accidentally broke down his favorite bush that was in the front yard.  Think it was a lilac bush or something.. Doesn't matter.. I took it a few streets away and dumped it.  Next morning I walked into the livingroom where he was rocking in his chair and casually looked outside... "DAD!  SOMEONE STOLE YOUR BUSH!!!!".  He jumped up, looked out there and said, "Dammit! Those N'rs will steal anything!"

Over the years he started coming around.  I'd like to think it was because the three guys I hung out with through high school, 1 was bi-racial and the other 2 were African American... Or maybe because I ended up marrying a woman who had a bi-racial baby that he considers his grandson.  Regardless, you could start to see the change in his beliefs..

Fast forward 20 years.. He now gives my 15 year old son a ride home from school everyday... Many times with his friend from down the street who is African American.  My son is telling this story in front of him how my dad threatened to throw this other friend (white kid who rides home sometimes) out of the car for making a comment that was "kind of racist" in the car.  ME:  :confused: :confused:  "What is this now Dad?!"  He says, "I'm not going to tolerate that kind of racist behavior in my car!"  I couldn't help but respond with "Not in your car?  I guess you house is still ok?".  He just responded with "I don't know what you are talking about."

Yes, there are still openly and overt racist folks out there.  Some of them are people we love.  I believe with each generation it is less and less though.  And that is a good thing.
Wow your dad has one hell of a character arc. It's like the PG version of American History X

 
My elderly father is increasingly disappointed that he is finding fewer and fewer people with whom to share racist jokes and anecdotes. 

 
First time I went to Michigan to visit my wife's family, we were outside her grandparents back yard drinking beers, playing bocce ball, enjoying a nice afternoon.  I'd never seen these before, but they have black squirrels in Michigan.  Two of these little critters dropped down to join us in the backyard.  Immediately, one of the husbands of my wife's many female cousins casually blurted out "Hey, look, it's the N-word squirrels".  I wasn't expecting that.  I spent four years in Mississippi and didn't hear that word tossed around so casually.  To hear it tossed out way way way up north stunned me.

 
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Although while I was in college, the fraternity of KA (which worships Robert E. Lee) decided to dress their pledges up in blackface and afro wigs on bid day.  A very outspoken black student caught wind of this and phoned up the local news stations who descended upon our campus and caught the frat in on camera.  It was a huge deal and they were put on double secret probation.  They also had ante-bellum parties where the brothers dressed up in confederate gear while the girls wore big dresses of the day.  Not sure if they do that anymore.  

The black student actually wrote about it for Gawker as well as other episodes of racism he's encountered.

 
Can you give us an example of one of these decisions?
Nothing that I would say was 'wrong'. I have NEVER seen a loan turned down because of racism or something like that. But tons of comments made and within the realm of discretion some of the the ones I am thinking of (black employees) would never give the benefit of the doubt to them (black customer). Things like whether or not to place funds on hold from a deposit or release funds. There were times where after a customer left they wanted to make sure all procedures to filter fraud were correctly done. But like I said, mostly it was comments like "Yea, I knew she was fraud as soon as she walked in." or "Yup, I knew his black ### had bad credit." etc. 

 
If you work in Boston, there's a racist Batsignal. Break something in your office. The carpenter/electrician/HVAC guy will absolutely be a red-faced, Irish skinhead who will use a word like 'junglebunny' or "diapahhead' or 'nancyboy' or do a "choychoychongchong" bucktoothed Asian impression or gay lisp, then give you a "amirite" nod in the first minute of his appearance.
Nancyboy? Isn't that like from the 1800's?!

 
Started doing some hospice work and good amount of the people over the age of 80 are very racist.  Not just racist against black, but of anyone darker than pale.  Mexican, Indians, anyone who is not pasty white.  These older people drop the "N" word like it isn't a big deal at all just part of their everyday verbiage.  Also, have several black patients that don't want black people coming to see them in their home.  These black people think that other black people will steal all of their stuff.   Weird and sad at the same time.  

 
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My elderly mother: "Is (roadkilldaughter) still working for those Jews?" 

"A lot of the nurses here are colored but they seem to know what they're doing."

 
I grew up in Texas and I think the state gets lumped in too much with the rest of the south in this respect. At least in my lifetime, it's been far less than others might expect and a lot of that has to do with the boom of immigration and the population just becoming more diverse. I saw far more of it traveling for work in Mississippi than I ever did in Texas.

The one time I ever personally dealt with anything as a white male was on a work trip to Oklahoma. I was consulting for a tribal organization and the comment was not just that it would be better if I lodged elsewhere but that I likely would want to find myself out of town before the sun went down or I might not like the outcome.

 
I grew up in Texas and I think the state gets lumped in too much with the rest of the south in this respect. At least in my lifetime, it's been far less than others might expect and a lot of that has to do with the boom of immigration and the population just becoming more diverse. I saw far more of it traveling for work in Mississippi than I ever did in Texas.

The one time I ever personally dealt with anything as a white male was on a work trip to Oklahoma. I was consulting for a tribal organization and the comment was not just that it would be better if I lodged elsewhere but that I likely would want to find myself out of town before the sun went down or I might not like the outcome.
James Byrd Jr. disagrees. 

 

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