Chaser1439
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Pick him up now!
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Chaser1439
Footballguy
He is on most waiver wires. Picking him up this week represents insane value in week 10, and for the fantasy playoffs.
Here is another great pickup, LIONS D. They face the JETS this week which does not appear to be a favorable matchup, but they have Buff, and Dallas in week 10 and week 11.
Continue to plan ahead, and you will find yourself in the playoffs.
Here is another great pickup, LIONS D. They face the JETS this week which does not appear to be a favorable matchup, but they have Buff, and Dallas in week 10 and week 11.
Continue to plan ahead, and you will find yourself in the playoffs.
Red Forman
Footballguy
Are you kidding? He cant even sprint yet.. Get real.
bleedgreen
Footballguy
I'm trying to win my championship this year. I don't think a Vikings WR is going to help me accomplish that.
Megatron Bombs
Footballguy
Reports are that he ran routes full speed during practice on Wednesday. Is this real enough?
Step in right direction
Step in right direction
Red Forman
Footballguy
Some running in practice? Whoa, superbowl here the Vikes come..
He will be on the bench the rest the year, especially after the Vikes lose their next couple games.
bleedgreen
Footballguy
An owner in my league picked him up. I don't see how anyone could start him with confidence if/when he's ready to play. Vikings are a mess. It's a long shot.
Red Forman
Footballguy
SieteCinco
Footballguy
I picked him up. Why not?
Not expecting him to perform right away, and definitely won't be starting him the first few weeks he does return, but if you have room on the bench why wouldn't you pick him up? Everyone was hyping up Starks as a player to stash and hope to provide some value towards the end of the year during Fantasy Playoffs, so whats different about Rice? If anything, Rice is more of a "must get" player than others, seeing as he has already showed what he is capable of.
Yes, the Vikings are struggling, but they are still producing players who are worthy of starting in fantasy leagues (Adrian Peterson, Harvin, Moss did have 2 TDs.) With Moss now gone, if/when Rice returns he will step back into the #1 WR position which should surely be good enough to warrant WR #3/4 value - at worst.
You say you're trying to win your leagues championship, but if you're in a 12+ team league, who else are you going to pick up off the WW that has a chance to produce as well as Rice?
Not expecting him to perform right away, and definitely won't be starting him the first few weeks he does return, but if you have room on the bench why wouldn't you pick him up? Everyone was hyping up Starks as a player to stash and hope to provide some value towards the end of the year during Fantasy Playoffs, so whats different about Rice? If anything, Rice is more of a "must get" player than others, seeing as he has already showed what he is capable of.
Yes, the Vikings are struggling, but they are still producing players who are worthy of starting in fantasy leagues (Adrian Peterson, Harvin, Moss did have 2 TDs.) With Moss now gone, if/when Rice returns he will step back into the #1 WR position which should surely be good enough to warrant WR #3/4 value - at worst.
You say you're trying to win your leagues championship, but if you're in a 12+ team league, who else are you going to pick up off the WW that has a chance to produce as well as Rice?
Catbird
Footballguy
I think this posting is bizarre.Some running in practice? Whoa, superbowl here the Vikes come..He will be on the bench the rest the year, especially after the Vikes lose their next couple games.
Rice was a top 8 WR in both of my leagues last year. He will have the same offense, coaches, players and system around him and he knows it perfectly. He had AMAZING chemistry with Favre (which Moss never even began to find). He is young, strong and talented. Nothing much has changed. Maybe he will take 2-3 weeks to get up to full speed - but how can it not be good that he is sprinting at full speed and cutting his routes that first day back?. Maybe the offense is fatally flawed this season and attitude problems will diminish results. Maybe the fact that defenses now have to worry a lot more about Harvin won't help Rice all that much. Maybe he's only a top 25 WR for the last 2 weeks of the regular season and through the playoffs. Who the heck else is going to give you that return off the current waiver wire? I'm looking at my options and going, 'Sid Rice or Brandon LaFell? Sid Rice or DHB? Rice or Massaquoi?
I get that the Vikings have sucked. But I really don't get at all why Sid Rice isn't a whole lot better option and potential value than the rest of the available junk out there on your wire?
Saint
Footballguy
Vincent jackson... and his qb doesn't suck.
bbuster
Footballguy
What kind of leagues are either of these guys still on the WW? I play in 10 different Phenom leagues and both are rostered in every single one. I agree that if you have a space on your roster and they are available, it would be foolish to not grab one of them while you can.
pantherclub
Footballguy
I dont need him but I picked him up to potentially block another owner from getting him. There is always a chance, granted a small one, that he comes back and performs like he did last year. If you have a spot, and I dropped Jerome Harrison for him, then why not stash him?Off topic - How the hell do you have time for 10 leagues? Isnt that a bit overkill?
sho nuff
Footballguy
And the Vikings were a top offense last year.Favre was playing better and did not have a broken ankle, messed up elbow, and stitches in his chin.Catbird said:I think this posting is bizarre.Red Forman said:Some running in practice? Whoa, superbowl here the Vikes come..Megatron Bombs said:He will be on the bench the rest the year, especially after the Vikes lose their next couple games.
Rice was a top 8 WR in both of my leagues last year. He will have the same offense, coaches, players and system around him and he knows it perfectly. He had AMAZING chemistry with Favre (which Moss never even began to find). He is young, strong and talented. Nothing much has changed. Maybe he will take 2-3 weeks to get up to full speed - but how can it not be good that he is sprinting at full speed and cutting his routes that first day back?. Maybe the offense is fatally flawed this season and attitude problems will diminish results. Maybe the fact that defenses now have to worry a lot more about Harvin won't help Rice all that much. Maybe he's only a top 25 WR for the last 2 weeks of the regular season and through the playoffs. Who the heck else is going to give you that return off the current waiver wire? I'm looking at my options and going, 'Sid Rice or Brandon LaFell? Sid Rice or DHB? Rice or Massaquoi?
I get that the Vikings have sucked. But I really don't get at all why Sid Rice isn't a whole lot better option and potential value than the rest of the available junk out there on your wire?
That offense is not looking great right now and Chilly is basically a lame duck coach.
And while their chemistry might have been fine last year. Is it going to magically appear now in a few weeks again?
Sure...it might play out just fine.
Expecting huge value already in week 10 is a bit out there though.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
The only thing Im worried about week10 for S.Rice is can he get on the field.
Its weeks 14-16 production Im hoping for
Its weeks 14-16 production Im hoping for
Saint
Footballguy
He's not available as I grabbed him several weeks ago (as a matter of fact on the same day he announced he was going to report). There are a lot of redraft leagues where VJ was dropped after the trade deadline passed for him.As for Rice, I agree, he's probably not on many WW, but if he is, then I would say I still would rather have VJ. Favre is not playing like Favre of last year. It isn't that he doesn't have the same talent around him, but I would argue he isn't as accurate, dealing with multiple injuries, etc. I am saying temper expectations. Rice is not going to save your season in the playoffs and if anything may be WR3. I wouldn't expect much more with the way the Vikes O is looking.bbuster said:
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If Rice comes back and gives an avg of 6 or 7 points per game at WR for the rest of the season I would be happy. He has the ability to produce higher, but at this point in the season WR3 numbers would be great after holding on to him. All though I play mostly Dynasty so I would have held him regardless. Its better than running Benn and Demaryius Thomas out there like I have been getting a measly 3 to 5 points a game (16 team dynasty. Depth hard to come by).
I think if you are contending at this point in the season, you don't need Rice to be your 1 or 2 WR. So I think WR 3 value in redrafts seems reasonable.
I think if you are contending at this point in the season, you don't need Rice to be your 1 or 2 WR. So I think WR 3 value in redrafts seems reasonable.
FFdork
Footballguy
I'm starting to wonder about the timing of activating Rice. It's starting to feel like more of a PR move rather than an indication that he's getting close: "See. It's OK we cut Moss. Rice is coming back!"
I see the article in the news feed today that there's still no timetable. He's still not able to practice, and I've yet to read anywhere he's out there running routes or running at full speed for that matter (maybe I just missed it during the avalanche of Randy Moss reporting).
I'm pretty sure he'll play this year, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it turns out he's returning more like week 13 instead of week 10.
I see the article in the news feed today that there's still no timetable. He's still not able to practice, and I've yet to read anywhere he's out there running routes or running at full speed for that matter (maybe I just missed it during the avalanche of Randy Moss reporting).
I'm pretty sure he'll play this year, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if it turns out he's returning more like week 13 instead of week 10.
Jeremy
Footballguy
Yeah, it doesn't sounds like he's in any big hurry.
Reading between the lines, it sounds to me like Chilly is much more eager for him to come back than Rice is. Rice almost sounds like he wants to do as little as possible so he can get his butt into free agency and start making some big time
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FFdork
Footballguy
OK, guess I did miss it. I guess I'm still confused on why there's no timetable if he's close. I still stand by my intuition that his activation may have had as much to do with PR as to when he'll be able to contribute. Here's hoping he's able to play by week 11 so that he has a few weeks to get the rust off and we get to see a few weeks of results before the playoffs.
footballnerd
Footballguy
He's been rostered all year in my leagues, and most he was drafted.
SieteCinco
Footballguy
Ok so say he doesn't play week 9, doesn't play week 10, has a limited role week 11, picks it up a little week 12, and fully goes the rest of the season - there is nothing THAT scary about facing BUF/NYG/CHI/PHI.
One of the biggest reasons people are on this message board is to get an advantage on others in their league. Half the game is trying to find those players people aren't high on, who end up doing well - picking up the Miles Austin's, Peyton Hillis', BJGE's, Lloyd's, Torrain's, Tamme's of the WW. If Sidney Rice is still somehow on your leagues WW, unless you're in a 10 team or less league, or are loaded at WR already, he is a great pick up for the most important part of the season.
One of the biggest reasons people are on this message board is to get an advantage on others in their league. Half the game is trying to find those players people aren't high on, who end up doing well - picking up the Miles Austin's, Peyton Hillis', BJGE's, Lloyd's, Torrain's, Tamme's of the WW. If Sidney Rice is still somehow on your leagues WW, unless you're in a 10 team or less league, or are loaded at WR already, he is a great pick up for the most important part of the season.
"Fork 2010", meet my friend Sidney.
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
Same reason there isn't one for Pierre Thomas. Espionage. If there is a time table, we won't know it until the week they play. I'm sure they will be active a game or two and see limited action. Then they will come out of nowhere to produce and be on everyone's fantasy benches.
FFdork
Footballguy
I get that in general. However, given the current status of the Vikings and all of the anger, right or wrong, about cutting Moss (Owner, Vikings players and fans), I would think they would want to get any positive news out there at the moment. Childress has a rich history of not getting it when it comes to these double secret probation moments though.
Saint
Footballguy
Okay. I'll go out on a limb and call it a conspiracy theory. Why? Well, here's my theory:
1. Last year (Rice + Favre) =
2. This year (Favre + no one) =
3. Change this year (Favre + Moss) =
So what does Chilly do? Well he looks back to what got him the money contract last year. Rice. I'm guessing he's finding a way to get some wins to save his job. Rushing Rice back may placate the management and allow him a little bit more time in the noose.
That's my theory and I am sticking to it.
1. Last year (Rice + Favre) =
2. This year (Favre + no one) =
3. Change this year (Favre + Moss) =
So what does Chilly do? Well he looks back to what got him the money contract last year. Rice. I'm guessing he's finding a way to get some wins to save his job. Rushing Rice back may placate the management and allow him a little bit more time in the noose.
That's my theory and I am sticking to it.
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knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Running routes in practice is one thing, but can he take a hit with that hip in the next few weeks?
papalazarou
Footballguy
Own him in dynasty league, sat on him the whole year for this moment, hoping to ship him out via trade asap.
Catbird
Footballguy
I agree there is no certainty that Rice will be fine this year or that having the one missing piece from last years successful O will help resurrect MIN play this year. Favre is hurting and attitudes are down. And I don't expect anything from Rice before Week 12 at the earliest. But if he were available in your league (and unless you are in a league where VJackson is miraculously still available) is there not a lot more upside potential with Rice than with some guy who might get a start but has never shown anything to anyone? I think many just thought Rice was done for the year and won't look at him being back and running well - although sore from doing it - as a good sign for his production a few weeks down the road. Quality starting WR1's arriving for the last two regular season ga,es and the playoffs just aren't that available.
And before people conspiracy-theory that they brought Rice back to defuse the Moss waiver, isn't it more likely that Moss (not playing all out, bad-mouthing the coaching staff and flagrantly violating team rules so that if Childress accepts that, Moss - and no doubt everyone else - walk all over him and the rules forever) put them in a situation where that and Rice being ready to come back made getting rid of Moss look like the nest choice to Chilly?
Guys were drooling over Moss coming to MIN 4 weeks ago - when he didn't know the offense and had shown serious attitude problems when on non-competitive teams. Isn't Rice - young, fit, good attitude, knowing the offense, being happy there and comperably talented (at least at this stage of Moss' career) at least a comperable addition when healthy? I just think you take Moss or Rice when potentially healthy and happy over a pile of waiver wire fodder.
And before people conspiracy-theory that they brought Rice back to defuse the Moss waiver, isn't it more likely that Moss (not playing all out, bad-mouthing the coaching staff and flagrantly violating team rules so that if Childress accepts that, Moss - and no doubt everyone else - walk all over him and the rules forever) put them in a situation where that and Rice being ready to come back made getting rid of Moss look like the nest choice to Chilly?
Guys were drooling over Moss coming to MIN 4 weeks ago - when he didn't know the offense and had shown serious attitude problems when on non-competitive teams. Isn't Rice - young, fit, good attitude, knowing the offense, being happy there and comperably talented (at least at this stage of Moss' career) at least a comperable addition when healthy? I just think you take Moss or Rice when potentially healthy and happy over a pile of waiver wire fodder.
RandleEl82
Footballguy
Rice is a free agent next season.
He needs to play, and play productively THIS season to show teams he is back healthy.
He needs to play, and play productively THIS season to show teams he is back healthy.
I tend to look at it the other way. Yes, he is a free agent next year. He has already proven himself. The last thing he needs to do is try to come back too soon and make things worse. I can only see a downside to coming back this year.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Has Minnesota really given up? Has Favre?Has Rice?Has Detroit? Most people would say no. They're both 2.5 games behind the Pack, maybe 2.0 games out of wildcard, but Minny's the team with several losses (3 of their 5) of less than one TD.From the article: "Rice showed no obvious problems during the individual portion of practice that the media are allowed to watch. He ran routes full speed and was able to make cuts."Minnesota is DESPERATE to make a run at things; they NEED Rice to produce. I realize they may tank on Childress, but under Favre? I don't see it.Do a draft in your head of every single available WW WR, + Rice, and then add the last WR on your bench. Who're you picking first?
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FFdork
Footballguy
I think Rice clearly has the talent. I still think it's very debatable whether that talent gets to shine while the calendar reads 2010. Childress's week 10 prognostication may be a bit of PR/spin by a coach on a red hot seat. If you read Rice's quotes, they're a lot more guarded, and he has zero motivation to risk aggravating an injury or looking bad because he's out of shape. I'm sure Rice will be playing for his next contract when he gets in there, but it remains to be seen what the rest of the team is doing at that point.
IF Rice can get close to 100% before the Vikings are eliminated from the playoffs, he could be great for your fantasy team. On the other hand, if the Vikings are out of the playoffs I just don't see Favre playing in meaningless games. Now maybe Rice would be great with Tavaris under center, but that hasn't really been the history--it was Favre and his willingness to take chances that elevated Rice from minor bust to elite WR.
Anyway, I clearly think he's worth stashing on your bench (I know I have in multiple leagues), but I would say WR3 numbers are just as likely as WR1 whenever he's really healthy and in game shape.
IF Rice can get close to 100% before the Vikings are eliminated from the playoffs, he could be great for your fantasy team. On the other hand, if the Vikings are out of the playoffs I just don't see Favre playing in meaningless games. Now maybe Rice would be great with Tavaris under center, but that hasn't really been the history--it was Favre and his willingness to take chances that elevated Rice from minor bust to elite WR.
Anyway, I clearly think he's worth stashing on your bench (I know I have in multiple leagues), but I would say WR3 numbers are just as likely as WR1 whenever he's really healthy and in game shape.
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Rogi
Footballguy
Nothing solid, but sounds like there's a chance he'll suit up against the Bears.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...9341&spln=1
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...9341&spln=1
FFdork
Footballguy
The comeback win helps a lot--it means they're still alive for the playoffs and Favre will be the QB for at least a couple more weeks. It does sound like Rice could be active this week, which means he could be in decent game shape by the following week.
I still think (and Favre said as much post-game) that there's no chance that Brett plays in meaningless games, so you still have to factor in the possibility that Jackson is the QB when it's fantasy playoff time. Yesterday could be a turning point, but personally I think it's going to be hard for this team to sustain momentum because they're struggling in multiple facets of their game and by all reports locker room morale isn't great.
Personally, I think that if Rice has a big week or two, I'll be seeing what his trade value is. Don't listen to me though as I would have traded Arian Foster after week 1 if anyone had given me first or second round value in return.
I still think (and Favre said as much post-game) that there's no chance that Brett plays in meaningless games, so you still have to factor in the possibility that Jackson is the QB when it's fantasy playoff time. Yesterday could be a turning point, but personally I think it's going to be hard for this team to sustain momentum because they're struggling in multiple facets of their game and by all reports locker room morale isn't great.
Personally, I think that if Rice has a big week or two, I'll be seeing what his trade value is. Don't listen to me though as I would have traded Arian Foster after week 1 if anyone had given me first or second round value in return.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
I snagged Rice and Jackson up in 2 of my 4 leagues where he was still available. They were both drafted in every leaugue that I am in... however, in one of my 4 leagues, the owner dropped Rice after the Vikings traded for Moss. I grabbed him in that league. In 2 leagues I was able to grab VJax, who the 2 owners cut after the trade deadline passed. I was one of those owners that cut him in one league... but I picked him back up after I got the very first news that he was going to report.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Just picked him up in a trade...to back up VJax.
Clifford
Footballguy
Actually no. Percy Harvin has excelled in that offense for quite a few weeks now, and had arguably his best game as a receiver WITHOUT MOSS. So If I can start Harvin with confidence, why would I not be able to start a healthy Rice for the fantasy playoffs?Why don't you guys at least put some thought into your posts and examine what you are talking about before posting.
Clifford
Footballguy
Sidney Rice-WR- Vikings Nov. 10 - 2:16 pm et Vikings coach Brad Childress confirmed Wednesday that Sidney Rice (hip) will not be a full-time player if he makes his 2010 debut in Week 10."I don't think it's realistic to think he'll come right in with 60-70 snaps," Childress said. "The minute he feels like he can play, he can play." Rice was medically cleared two weeks ago, but the Vikings appear to be leaving the decision to resume playing up to him. Rice might be available for three-receiver sets at Chicago, but won't be a strong fantasy play.Rotoworld is free and easy to use.shims3 said:
Pointing this out is sorta like me pointing out that somehow you find the time to post on a FF website 15 times per day......7 days a week.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
This is really exciting.It would be awesome to see him get a score from Favre.
Seems to me I recall players coming back, getting into the flow of the game, feeling good and staying in for longer than prognosticated. Could happen.
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