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Which City Would You Like To See Get An NFL Team (1 Viewer)
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NeverEnough
Footballguy
Jersey City, NJ
Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
Las Vegas makes the most sense. LA is too fair-weather and has never shown that it can keep a NFL franchise, so I don't trust that city.
All the other cities you suggested are too small and could become like Jacksonville in 10 years.
All the other cities you suggested are too small and could become like Jacksonville in 10 years.
The Hardline
Footballguy
Columbus, OH
Not because there is a need for another Ohio pro football team but rather so that I might listen to sports radio when I am here and not have to listen to 18 hours a day of OSU football. It is really annoying.
Austin or San Antonio could probably have one but that would kill Jerruh and he would fight to his last breath to keep that from happening.
Not because there is a need for another Ohio pro football team but rather so that I might listen to sports radio when I am here and not have to listen to 18 hours a day of OSU football. It is really annoying.
Austin or San Antonio could probably have one but that would kill Jerruh and he would fight to his last breath to keep that from happening.
gandalas
Footballguy
Another Vote for Columbus, not that it would ever happen....As to Ohio not needing another team, where do you think that ALL the teams came from, for the most part? There used to be 4 or 5 pro teams in Ohio...
azgroover
Footballguy
Not sure this would be able to work given the Sunday game schedule.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Anywhere but London
Northbound Train
Footballguy
Detroit.....oh wait, we may finally have a team 
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Highest ranked DMA's without an NFL franchise: (Link)
Rank Designated Market Area (DMA) TV Households % of US
2 Los Angeles, CA 5,666,900 4.889
19 Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne, FL 1,453,120 1.254
20 Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto, CA 1,409,400 1.216
22 Portland, OR 1,197,780 1.033
25 Raleigh-Durham (Fayetteville), NC 1,131,310 0.976
30 Hartford and New Haven, CT 1,018,770 0.879
32 Salt Lake City, UT 953,950 0.823
34 Columbus, OH 915,950 0.790
36 Greenville-Spartanburg, SC-Asheville, NC-Anderson,SC 878,550 0.758
37 San Antonio, TX 844,910 0.729
38 West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce, FL 773,890 0.668
39 Harrisburg-Lancaster-Lebanon-York, PA 749,020 0.646
40 Birmingham (Anniston and Tuscaloosa), AL 747,190 0.645
41 Grand Rapids-Kalamazoo-Battle Creek, MI 740,230 0.639
42 Las Vegas, NV 718,030 0.620
43 Norfolk-Portsmouth-Newport News, VA 716,050 0.618
44 Austin, TX 707,430 0.610
45 Oklahoma City, OK 704,670 0.608
46 Albuquerque-Santa Fe, NM 703,720 0.607
47 Greensboro-High Point-Winston Salem, NC 699,040 0.603
48 Memphis, TN 693,860 0.599
50 Louisville, KY 674,940 0.582
(For point of reference, Jax is 49, Buffalo is 51, New Orleans is 52, Green Bay is 71)
Based on this, the only areas I would consider for expansion/relocation are Los Angeles and Portland. The other ones are either too small or too close geographically to existing teams (i.e. Orlando, Sacramento, etc).
Rank Designated Market Area (DMA) TV Households % of US
2 Los Angeles, CA 5,666,900 4.889
19 Orlando-Daytona Beach-Melbourne, FL 1,453,120 1.254
20 Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto, CA 1,409,400 1.216
22 Portland, OR 1,197,780 1.033
25 Raleigh-Durham (Fayetteville), NC 1,131,310 0.976
30 Hartford and New Haven, CT 1,018,770 0.879
32 Salt Lake City, UT 953,950 0.823
34 Columbus, OH 915,950 0.790
36 Greenville-Spartanburg, SC-Asheville, NC-Anderson,SC 878,550 0.758
37 San Antonio, TX 844,910 0.729
38 West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce, FL 773,890 0.668
39 Harrisburg-Lancaster-Lebanon-York, PA 749,020 0.646
40 Birmingham (Anniston and Tuscaloosa), AL 747,190 0.645
41 Grand Rapids-Kalamazoo-Battle Creek, MI 740,230 0.639
42 Las Vegas, NV 718,030 0.620
43 Norfolk-Portsmouth-Newport News, VA 716,050 0.618
44 Austin, TX 707,430 0.610
45 Oklahoma City, OK 704,670 0.608
46 Albuquerque-Santa Fe, NM 703,720 0.607
47 Greensboro-High Point-Winston Salem, NC 699,040 0.603
48 Memphis, TN 693,860 0.599
50 Louisville, KY 674,940 0.582
(For point of reference, Jax is 49, Buffalo is 51, New Orleans is 52, Green Bay is 71)
Based on this, the only areas I would consider for expansion/relocation are Los Angeles and Portland. The other ones are either too small or too close geographically to existing teams (i.e. Orlando, Sacramento, etc).
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The Hardline
Footballguy
Let's try to leave logic and data out of this Perot. We want knee jerk emotional responses to these types of questions.
Add the Richmond area to Norfolk (a little over an hour apart) and you get over 1.2 million, just above Portland.
JbizzleMan
Footballguy
So...when are the Jaguars moving to LA?
Road Warriors
Footballguy
San Antonio / Austin could easily support an NFL franchise. Bring 'em on!
footballnerd
Footballguy
What is the maximum number of teams one State should be allowed? If LA got one that would be 4 in Cali. Should spread the NFL love to those less fortunate, imo
Maik Jeaunz
Footballguy
I'd like to see a team in LA. the problem is that the team wouldn't be in LA. they would put the team in Ontario, or Irvine, or some other place that's really 50+ miles away from LA.
hxperson
Footballguy
Toronto far bigger than any other city on this list outside of LA, with a CMA of 5,113,149.
Chaka
Footballguy
If players would be taxed at Canadian rates there is no way they get a team.
Macdaddy_2004
Footballguy
Time to give Toronto a team - we've been supporting the bills for the last decade or so.
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hxperson
Footballguy
What does that have to do with anything? I'm not saying the team would do well (Win/loss-wise), but it would be a highly lucrative market. Just look at the Raptors - the team is downright terrible yet they are very successful financially.
Chaka
Footballguy
If wins and losses aren't important then maybe they could support a team.What does that have to do with anything? I'm not saying the team would do well (Win/loss-wise), but it would be a highly lucrative market. Just look at the Raptors - the team is downright terrible yet they are very successful financially.
3nOut
Footballguy
I would love to see a second team in Chicago. NY has 2 football teams, california has 3, texas has 2. The east coast in general is oversaturated already. I think Chicago could support two teams and they used to have the cardinals here a long time ago. I think it would improve the Bears as well as it would force the McCaskeys to be more competative. Wishful thinking.
notdarkyet
Footballguy
Cincinnati.
I would at least like to see an NFL owner here.
I would at least like to see an NFL owner here.
gethugefast1
Footballguy
Orlando 
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hxperson
Footballguy
Raps were 10th and 14th in attendance in the last 2 years despite missing the playoffs both years. Last year, outdrew the Heat, Suns, Magic, and Hawks.If wins and losses aren't important then maybe they could support a team.What does that have to do with anything? I'm not saying the team would do well (Win/loss-wise), but it would be a highly lucrative market. Just look at the Raptors - the team is downright terrible yet they are very successful financially.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
NONE of the above
Really .....and STOP with the LALAland nonsense - they DON'T want a team, it wouldn't be in a desirable area, would create tremendous traffic problems no matter where it was located and the people (especially FF players) who would not attend don't want to lose the third TV game each week they are home.
Really .....and STOP with the LALAland nonsense - they DON'T want a team, it wouldn't be in a desirable area, would create tremendous traffic problems no matter where it was located and the people (especially FF players) who would not attend don't want to lose the third TV game each week they are home.
i only see 1 . . .
Kleck
Footballguy
San Antonio has been one of the fastest growing cities in the U.S. since 2000, and with the love people in Texas have for football I think the state could easily support a 3rd NFL team.
I wouldn't mind seeing L.V. or some other state get an NFL team that doesn't have one now though.
I wouldn't mind seeing L.V. or some other state get an NFL team that doesn't have one now though.
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Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
And you get two dumpy cities rather than one.
mcintyre1
Footballguy
Omaha NE, for sure. Just look at their brand new UFL franchise, two consecutive packed house sellouts. Hell, thousands of people showed up to watch a UFL team practice. With a metro area of 750,000 and a relatively untapped market in Iowa nearby, an NFL franchise in Omaha would be financially viable. Plus you've got Warren Buffet in town as a likely investor.
More bonuses:
Hosts CWS every year, so they are prepared to host large sporting events.
Ranked 8th among top 50 largest cities in Fortune 500 companies and billionaires per capita (advertising and investment money)
Large international airport (cheap transportation costs)
Several highly regarded hospitals (hopefully never need them)
More bonuses:
Hosts CWS every year, so they are prepared to host large sporting events.
Ranked 8th among top 50 largest cities in Fortune 500 companies and billionaires per capita (advertising and investment money)
Large international airport (cheap transportation costs)
Several highly regarded hospitals (hopefully never need them)
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43 Norfolk-Portsmouth-Newport News, VA 716,050 0.618
Plus Hampton, Suffolk, Virginia Beach, Chesapeake, all of which are continuous with Nofolk/Newport News. Add in Elizabeth City and Williamsburg within very easy driving range, and you have what is EASILY the biggest market in the country without a pro sports team of some kind.
Football probably wouldn't happen with the Skins', Panthers, and Ravens all within a three hour drive (and Snyder would easily block this as this is technically Skins' territory)....but this area could easily support a football team (or other pro franchise) if the various cities (which really are continuous with one another...much like LA or NYC burroughs) would work together to make it happen.
Plus Hampton, Suffolk, Virginia Beach, Chesapeake, all of which are continuous with Nofolk/Newport News. Add in Elizabeth City and Williamsburg within very easy driving range, and you have what is EASILY the biggest market in the country without a pro sports team of some kind.
Football probably wouldn't happen with the Skins', Panthers, and Ravens all within a three hour drive (and Snyder would easily block this as this is technically Skins' territory)....but this area could easily support a football team (or other pro franchise) if the various cities (which really are continuous with one another...much like LA or NYC burroughs) would work together to make it happen.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
You might want to ask the Canadian NHL teams about how this affects them.If wins and losses aren't important then maybe they could support a team.
Kleck
Footballguy
I think Chicago could easily support a 2nd NFL team. I'd actually kind of like having an AFC team in the area too.
Chaka
Footballguy
What's an "NHL"?You might want to ask the Canadian NHL teams about how this affects them.If wins and losses aren't important then maybe they could support a team.
Kleck
Footballguy
You're selling the idea to me.
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Roscoe P Coltrane
Footballguy
LA, but only if Ari Gold is involved.
L.A. wants a team. They just don't want the City/County to pay for the stadium. If they could resolve the stadium issue, L.A.'s getting a team and the fans in L.A. will be ecstatic.Also, they're looking to put a stadium right by the Staples Center. The downtown area in L.A. is really growing and becoming a desirable place.
It really should not be wishful thinking. My guess is that the 100k people on the Bears season ticket queue would welcome another franchise. May not make sense on paper, but I have little doubt that a sports toen like Chicago will have a hard time filling another 60k seats 8 times a year.
JHuber77
Footballguy
Las Vegas Gamblers. Only if they get a dome though. Too hot in the desert. If any city could support one, it would definately be Vegas. Surprising to see that Vegas still doesn't have a pro team in town from any of the top 4 sports. The casinos would load up on luxury boxes, they have tons of space to build a stadium, and the casinos could comp their high rollers. Sounds like a win win.
Virginia Beach 433,575
Norfolk 233,333
Chesapeake 222,455
Newport News 193,172
Hampton 144,236
Portsmouth 99,321.
Suffolk 83,659
That totals 1,409,751 people, not including the suburbs. Again, it’s important to note that without a river crossing, or a sign saying “welcome to city X”, you’d never know when you left any of these cities and entered its neighbor. Of course, most major cities are surrounded by suburbs which would effectively double their populations, but going by this total alone, Hampton Roads would be a top ten city by population....the nations biggest city nobody talks about.
Norfolk 233,333
Chesapeake 222,455
Newport News 193,172
Hampton 144,236
Portsmouth 99,321.
Suffolk 83,659
That totals 1,409,751 people, not including the suburbs. Again, it’s important to note that without a river crossing, or a sign saying “welcome to city X”, you’d never know when you left any of these cities and entered its neighbor. Of course, most major cities are surrounded by suburbs which would effectively double their populations, but going by this total alone, Hampton Roads would be a top ten city by population....the nations biggest city nobody talks about.
