Hoart Petterson
Footballguy
You can have any tight end on your team...who would it be? Are they all about the same? Any guy stand out for you?
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Who is the top fantasy Tight End? (1 Viewer)
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What he said.
Koya
Footballguy
Id say Gates... he gets catches, he gets TDs and he is by far the best receiver on that team (especially without V Jax). I don't see Clark repeating last year especially with so many other hands to catch balls along with the return of Gonzalez and the maturing of their other young wide outs.
DoubleG
Footballguy
First, with Witten and Davis...well in both cases they have some of the best young WRs in the game competing for catches with them - and neither comes from an offense that is as pass heavy as the Colts.
In SF, you've got Crabtree and Gore (and SF isn't a prolific passing offense to begin with) - and in Dallas you have Austin and now Dez too. While I think Witten is a great option (and if Dez is out much - all the better for Witten's #s), I just don't see him putting up the numbers Clark will or Gates will w/o VJax.
So I think that really limits the discussion to Finley, Clark and Gates.
If the VJax situation lasts past week 6 - it will be Gates. Otherwise, it's tough to argue with Clark for this season, although I do think a case could be made for Finley (and in 2011, he's a shoe-in top 3), especially if Driver's knees don't hold up. The reason I think Finley has a chance, is simply because his TD numbers could be high, given the way GB seemed to use him in the red zone - especially at the end of the year and playoffs.
If I had to rank them based on who I though had the highest chane to put up the best numbers, it would be:
Gates (I DO think the VJax situation will last long)
Clark
Finley
Witten
Davis
But, I also think Finley, while having the lowest floor, also may have the highest ceiling.
In SF, you've got Crabtree and Gore (and SF isn't a prolific passing offense to begin with) - and in Dallas you have Austin and now Dez too. While I think Witten is a great option (and if Dez is out much - all the better for Witten's #s), I just don't see him putting up the numbers Clark will or Gates will w/o VJax.
So I think that really limits the discussion to Finley, Clark and Gates.
If the VJax situation lasts past week 6 - it will be Gates. Otherwise, it's tough to argue with Clark for this season, although I do think a case could be made for Finley (and in 2011, he's a shoe-in top 3), especially if Driver's knees don't hold up. The reason I think Finley has a chance, is simply because his TD numbers could be high, given the way GB seemed to use him in the red zone - especially at the end of the year and playoffs.
If I had to rank them based on who I though had the highest chane to put up the best numbers, it would be:
Gates (I DO think the VJax situation will last long)
Clark
Finley
Witten
Davis
But, I also think Finley, while having the lowest floor, also may have the highest ceiling.
The Carnage
Footballguy
This again.I would have been tempted to vote Clark, but the Jackson situation pulled it back to Gates.What he said.
mlball77
Footballguy
For me the breakout is:
Gates
Clark
V Davis
J Finley
Witten
...........
With VJax out for a few games likely, I like Gates even more than normal. I think this is partially what separates him from the others.
As for Witten, the guy is always a solid producer, but I don't like his upside as much as the others.
Gates
Clark
V Davis
J Finley
Witten
...........
With VJax out for a few games likely, I like Gates even more than normal. I think this is partially what separates him from the others.
As for Witten, the guy is always a solid producer, but I don't like his upside as much as the others.
ppr
Gates - Clark
Witten
Finley - Davis - Gonzo
Celek - Winslow
Gates - Clark
Witten
Finley - Davis - Gonzo
Celek - Winslow
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I guess I'd have to agree. I'm not 100 percent sure he's at the top of his game compared to how physically dominating he was a few years back but it's hard to argue with the current situation in SD. It would appear the only thing that would screw up a big time season is injury/toe which is always a concern with Gates.What he said.
sjacksonfan
Footballguy
Through the first 11 weeks last year, Gates found the end zone in exactly one game. He's the best guy? Give me Finley over all of these guys. He's going to be a red zone beast. I don't understand how Jackson's absence opens things up for Gates and increases his fantasy value. Jackson being there helps him, not the other way around.
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Jed
Footballguy
This.Gates will be doubled all day long. You can't double Finley, Clark, or Vernon.
First off, I can't believe you're questioning the TD production of the guy who set the single-season TD record for the TE position and who is 3 TDs away from passing Shannon Sharpe with the second most TDs of any TE in NFL history.Second off, you're doing all kinds of things to that data that should be illegal. For starters, by "the first 11 weeks" you really mean "the first 10 games", unless you hold it against Gates that he didn't manage to find the end zone on his bye week. For finishers, you conveniently forgot to mention that he found the end zone in FIVE OF HIS LAST SIX GAMES to end the season.
((Morpheus))
Footballguy
Finley is a beast.
This is how I see it as well, except in a PPR I would put Witten right up there with the other four.A lot gets mentioned about a TEs supporting cast (WRs, RBs); about the teams passing proficiency; about their schedule; etc.One thing I don't see talked/written about enough is a TEs production relative to the OLines play. Witten's TDs were lower than expected last year because he had to stay in and block more....I suspect he will have to do the same this year. I believe he will get his catches and yards, but his TDs will be lower once agian.However, I wonder what other TEs will have to become blockers more. In addition to the Vincent Jackson problem, the Chargers have the Marcus Mcneil problem. Makes me wonder how much more he'll have to stay in to block. I still believe he's the #1 TE and they will use every imagineable way to get the ball in his hands, hence I have him as the #1 too, but curious how the Chargers LT situation will affect him. Someone mentioned Gates would be double-teamed...if was gameplanning against the Charges, I may very well triple team him.Clark...I had him and loved him last year, he took me to two championships! But I don't think he'll be able to duplicate the monster season he had. I still see him as Top 5, with potential for the #1 overall spot. However, I think he's got nowhere to go but down, in relation to last year. Gonzales being back only hurts.**I think the next two are the safest of the top 5....and I know it's just my very humble opinion.Finley, if he can stay healthy, I believe he will be solid. But he is in the same boat as Clark and possibly Witten, where there are so many passing options on the team. I just think he will be targeted at least 7-8 times a game...every game...and a bunch in the redzone. He could be this year's Dallas Clark.Vernon Davis I think is also in a good situation. OLine is good enough so he doesn't have to stay in and block. Running game is good enough to keeps defenses honest. He is a nighmare to cover. Crabtree and the other WRs are just good enough to keep most of the double teams off. He's a beast in the redzone. The only downside, and the ONLY reason he is not the #1 overall, is because the SF offense doesn't pass for for 3,500 yards and they likely won't have to this year. This keeps his ceiling a tad lower than Clark and Finley, but I believe he is a safer, more consistent pick.**Only Gates and Clark had more Quality Starts in PPR Leagues last year than Vernon Davis, citing Pasquino's article. And I think their situations might cause a decline, whereas I see nowhere for Davis to go, but up. And I like Davis' SOS, especially in the playoffs.Also just wanted to toss out that I think Celek is not too far behind those top 5 on my list. I definately have him at the top of the next tier.Just my .02 cents...sorry it was long.
zamboni
Footballguy
Gates was a monster before VJ emerged on the scene and the other WRs were the likes of Keenan McCardell, Eric Parker, etc. And that was also when LT was running roughshod over the league and getting a lot of those red zone TDs.Granted, a few years have passed (along with a few injuries), and Gates is probably not the same dominating talent he was. But absent another injury, this is clearly Rivers' team now more than ever and he will undoubtedly look early and often for Gates.
Arizona Ron
Footballguy
Out of these guys, Vernon Davis is the 'best pick' for me. Gates isn't worth what it will cost to get him.
Dancing Bear
Footballguy
Gates has a historical 50% chance to catch 60+ yards in any given game.
Clark is under 30%.
TD-wise Gates is a beast every year and can be counted on for at least 8 TD's. If Jackson continues to hold out that will go over double digits.
TD-wise Clark is all over the map from a low of 4 to a high of 12 depending upon Manning's supporting staff. With another year of maturity Garcon will insure that Clark's TD total are closer to 4 than to 12.
Clark is under 30%.
TD-wise Gates is a beast every year and can be counted on for at least 8 TD's. If Jackson continues to hold out that will go over double digits.
TD-wise Clark is all over the map from a low of 4 to a high of 12 depending upon Manning's supporting staff. With another year of maturity Garcon will insure that Clark's TD total are closer to 4 than to 12.
lfh3
Footballguy
What they said. As SSOG says, "When upside goes to bed at night, it dreams of Antonio Gates."I guess I'd have to agree. I'm not 100 percent sure he's at the top of his game compared to how physically dominating he was a few years back but it's hard to argue with the current situation in SD. It would appear the only thing that would screw up a big time season is injury/toe which is always a concern with Gates.What he said.
I'm missing the point. When he failed to score in 9 of 10 games, VJax was there, too. So are you saying that VJax helped him be a TD monster at the end of the season, but VJax had no impact on him not scoring TDs at the beginning of the season, so now that he's without VJax his production will resemble one particular stretch of games he played with VJax and not another equally arbitrary stretch of games he played with VJax? Huh?Long story short, this season Gates is going to jump to 2nd on the career TDs list among TEs, and people are questioning whether he's a good TD scorer. :(
Clark is a trendy pick. The dude has only topped 140 points once. He's only finished in the top 3 twice. Gates, on the other hand, scored almost the same as Clark last year, has topped 140 points 5 times, and has been a top-3 TE 5 times (plus TE4 a sixth time). Also, Gates will be facing less competition for catches (with VJax missing time) while Clark will be facing more competition (with Anthony Gonzalez returning and Garcon/Collie both a year older). Gates has excelled with crap WRs, Gates has excelled with VJax. Gates has excelled with Tomlinson stealing every single TD inside the 5, Gates has excelled with the artist formerly known as Tomlinson leading SD to one of the worst rushing performances in the league. Gates has excelled with Brees, Gates has excelled with Rivers. Is everyone starting to see the theme, here? Gates has been in many different situations and the one constant is that Gates has excelled.
two_dollars
Footballguy
Gates first, in his own tier.
Finley leads Clark and Davis in the 2nd tier.
Best value TE right now is Daniels.
Finley leads Clark and Davis in the 2nd tier.
Best value TE right now is Daniels.
Not a bad choice, but for my money it's Zach Miller. I'm hoping to land him or Heath Miller as a #2 TE in every league.
I like Miller a lot too, but with everyone and their dog tabbing him as an undervalued sleeper, he'll be difficult to get at a good value in any competitive league.
purestrength
Footballguy
Dallas Clark was my clear-cut No. 1, but he hurt his leg in practice Friday. As usual, the Colts aren't releasing much info about the severity.
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
Dynasty, I'll take Finley. Gonzalez-like ceiling.
LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
I thought this poll was made three years ago.
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