Who SHOULD win 2024 Heisman? (1 Viewer)

[Manster]

I don't think the people running college football wanted to give the Heisman to a non P4 conference kid......also, anything prime is involved in gets attention, and eyeballs. That's all that really matters anymore........who has the most money/eyeballs on tv sets.

 

[Orange&Blue]

heard that hunter returns all his NIL money for other teammates. seems like a good kid.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

HOWEVER - Boise State is in the playoffs and are only in the playoffs because of Ashton Jeanty. Full stop. There isn't a poster on this website who can argue otherwise.

Jeanty obviously played a massive role, but It is certainly plausible/possible that Boise would still be 12-1 without Jeanty. They run through the mountain west fairly regulary and won 10 games in it just a couple years ago with a team that was much worse than their current team (especially at QB).

 

[General Malaise]

HOWEVER - Boise State is in the playoffs and are only in the playoffs because of Ashton Jeanty. Full stop. There isn't a poster on this website who can argue otherwise.

Jeanty obviously played a massive role, but It is certainly plausible/possible that Boise would still be 12-1 without Jeanty. They run through the mountain west fairly regulary and won 10 games in it just a couple years ago with a team that was much worse than their current team (especially at QB).

We are going to vehemently disagree here.

 

[General Malaise]

HOWEVER - Boise State is in the playoffs and are only in the playoffs because of Ashton Jeanty. Full stop. There isn't a poster on this website who can argue otherwise.

Jeanty obviously played a massive role, but It is certainly plausible/possible that Boise would still be 12-1 without Jeanty. They run through the mountain west fairly regulary and won 10 games in it just a couple years ago with a team that was much worse than their current team (especially at QB).

Follow-up: did they beat Washington State and Oregon State a couple years ago? Did they lose to the #1 team in the country on a late field goal a couple of years ago?

I'd like to know what percentage Jeanty was of his team's offense - I think he was near 80% of their rushing yards.

 

[Zegras11]

HOWEVER - Boise State is in the playoffs and are only in the playoffs because of Ashton Jeanty. Full stop. There isn't a poster on this website who can argue otherwise.

Jeanty obviously played a massive role, but It is certainly plausible/possible that Boise would still be 12-1 without Jeanty. They run through the mountain west fairly regulary and won 10 games in it just a couple years ago with a team that was much worse than their current team (especially at QB).

Follow-up: did they beat Washington State and Oregon State a couple years ago? Did they lose to the #1 team in the country on a late field goal a couple of years ago?

I'd like to know what percentage Jeanty was of his team's offense - I think he was near 80% of their rushing yards.

ABOUT 76%

He split more time with Holani last year, who played with the Seahawks yesterday

Madsen had 224.... the other 550 was mostly garbage time.

Madsen had 22 TD, 3INT, 62%. 2700 yds... He's not bad

 

[FreeBaGeL]

HOWEVER - Boise State is in the playoffs and are only in the playoffs because of Ashton Jeanty. Full stop. There isn't a poster on this website who can argue otherwise.

Jeanty obviously played a massive role, but It is certainly plausible/possible that Boise would still be 12-1 without Jeanty. They run through the mountain west fairly regulary and won 10 games in it just a couple years ago with a team that was much worse than their current team (especially at QB).

Follow-up: did they beat Washington State and Oregon State a couple years ago? Did they lose to the #1 team in the country on a late field goal a couple of years ago?

I'd like to know what percentage Jeanty was of his team's offense - I think he was near 80% of their rushing yards.

They've had double digit wins 6 of the last 8 years (not counting the covid year where they only played 7 games), and they were the heavy betting favorites to win the MWC this year even against the field.

Point being, they were an implied 10 win team before the season already back when we didn't know Jeanty was this special. Maybe Jeanty got them to 12. Maybe they would have won 11 or 12 anyway. It was certainly within their reasonable projected outcomes. Their odds to make the playoffs were actually pretty reasonable before the season, again before we knew Jeanty was this good.

That's a very different scenario than a Colorado team that hasn't done crap in forever and had an implied preseason win total of around 4-5 games, and might have ended up in the playoffs themselves were it not for some tiebreaker math.

Relative to preseason expectations before we knew these guys were going to have special seasons, Colorado getting as close as they did to making the playoffs is arguably as (or more) impressive as Boise making the playoffs, which people thought was extremely plausible even before they knew Jeanty was going to blow up.

 

[General Malaise]

HOWEVER - Boise State is in the playoffs and are only in the playoffs because of Ashton Jeanty. Full stop. There isn't a poster on this website who can argue otherwise.

Jeanty obviously played a massive role, but It is certainly plausible/possible that Boise would still be 12-1 without Jeanty. They run through the mountain west fairly regulary and won 10 games in it just a couple years ago with a team that was much worse than their current team (especially at QB).

Follow-up: did they beat Washington State and Oregon State a couple years ago? Did they lose to the #1 team in the country on a late field goal a couple of years ago?

I'd like to know what percentage Jeanty was of his team's offense - I think he was near 80% of their rushing yards.

They've had double digit wins 6 of the last 8 years (not counting the covid year where they only played 7 games), and they were the heavy betting favorites to win the MWC this year even against the field.

Point being, they were an implied 10 win team before the season already back when we didn't know Jeanty was this special. Maybe Jeanty got them to 12. Maybe they would have won 11 or 12 anyway. It was certainly within their reasonable projected outcomes. Their odds to make the playoffs were actually pretty reasonable before the season, again before we knew Jeanty was this good.

That's a very different scenario than a Colorado team that hasn't done crap in forever and had an implied preseason win total of around 4-5 games, and might have ended up in the playoffs themselves were it not for some tiebreaker math.

Relative to preseason expectations before we knew these guys were going to have special seasons, Colorado getting as close as they did to making the playoffs is arguably as (or more) impressive as Boise making the playoffs, which people thought was extremely plausible even before they knew Jeanty was going to blow up.

Counterpoint: Boise State didn't lose to Nebraska, Kansas or Kansas State. Those are not good losses; those teams combined for 17 losses this season. How do you think Colorado would have fared against Oregon in Autzen Stadium? I can tell you what they looked like last year when they played there - they got humiliated. I can't imagine it would have looked better this year. Meanwhile, Boise State had Oregon dead to rights and blew it on special teams. Can't fault Jeanty for that. I can fault Hunter for losing thrice to bad teams since, you know HE PLAYS DEFENSE TOO, DID YA HEAR???

 

[Zegras11]

and might have ended up in the playoffs themselves were it not for some tiebreaker math.

Don't like this excuse. All they had to do was beat one of those K teams to be in the Big 12 title game

 

[CGRdrJoe]

and might have ended up in the playoffs themselves were it not for some tiebreaker math.

Don't like this excuse. All they had to do was beat one of those K teams to be in the Big 12 title game

worst take I've read all year...

Not really, i just want to see Susanna Hoff every other post on this page.


Both players are freaks and as long as one of them won it then the committee got it right.

 

[General Malaise]

and might have ended up in the playoffs themselves were it not for some tiebreaker math.

Don't like this excuse. All they had to do was beat one of those K teams to be in the Big 12 title game

And the losses to Nebraska and Kansas weren't even close losses. They got THUMPED in those games. Nebraska was up 28-0 at the half. Kansas took them out behind the woodshed and throttled them. I can't look past that.

Oh well....it's over. Too bad Prime Time doesn't coach at Boise State.

 

[General Malaise]

and might have ended up in the playoffs themselves were it not for some tiebreaker math.

Don't like this excuse. All they had to do was beat one of those K teams to be in the Big 12 title game

worst take I've read all year...

Not really, i just want to see Susanna Hoff every other post on this page.


Both players are freaks and as long as one of them won it then the committee got it right.

Now THIS is a guy who gets it.

She's 65 and still a smokeshow.