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Who's Going to make the biggest differance in XL? (1 Viewer)

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just intrested to hear what people's opinions are. i think Ben will come out on fire just like he has these past three games. but maybe there will be a suprise player...

 
Surprise player?Bobby Engram.I think Pittsburgh will spend a lot of time stopping Alexander, and now stopping Jackson, since he's proven that he's back over the past few games.I think Engram is going to get a lot of one-on-one looks, and make the most of them.

 
To me this comes down to NFL 101.1. Stop the run forcing the other team to become one dimensional.2. Pin your ears back and rush the passer.I think both teams will shut down the running game with ease. Well, maybe not ease, but I don't see any of the running backs have huge games. Using this logic its going to come down to one of the quarterbacks making plays. Which one? Tough to say. I've got faith that both of them can produce. Should be a great game.

 
Randle-El if you're searching for surprise guys. Really though I don't think anybody will surprise us-it'll be the reliable Bus, Hasslebeck, etc that win the game for either team.

 
A lot of good choices out there, I will go with a not so dominant player who usually comes up big in big games, Joe Jurevicious.

 
On offense- Steve Hutchinson picking up blitzes, Jerramy Stevens picking up 1st downsOn D- Lofa roving the middle, keeping everyone on their assignments to take away trick plays, and taking away Miller, Wistrom and Fisher getting pressure on Lil Ben and keeping FWP bottled up in the middle

 
On the Steelers side, I am going to go with that rookie cornerback (forgot his name). He quietly made a huge play on the Peyton to Reggie pass late in the divisional game which should have solidify his confidence.

 
I think Willie Parker is due to break a big play. In three of his last 4 regular season games he had at least one play over 40 yards. In the post season he has no single play over 20 yards.I can also see Randle El doing something on special teams or a trick play.

 
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If Seattle is to win it has to be Shaun Alexander. The guy is the league's MVP and this is his moment to shine on a national stage. If Alexander establishes himself it will put tremendous pressure on the Pittsburgh D. They will not be able to dictate the pace of the game. Having watched the Steelers play quite often they are at their most dangerous when they are dictating the style of play. They can make things snowball pretty quickly. A guy like Joey Porter becomes a real force when the Steelers are calling the shots. Yet, if Seattle can start having Alexxander control the pace of the game it will put the Steelers back on their heels which will make them vulnerable and just not as effective.Alexander's the MVP of this league and this is his moment to show those who don't see him play too much why he won that award.

 
Polamalu - the seahawks have not played pittsburgh since 2003, when troy was barely realizing his potential and in a major adjustment period. they just won't be ready for how this guy literally flies around the field and lines up in 4 different positions. I expect him to frustrate SA and hasselbeck all day.

 
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Jerramy StevensThe Steelers can't cover everybody and the LBs first responsibility will be stopping Alexander. I could see Stevens with 5+ catches for 75+ yards and a TD. Not MVP numbers, but definately a difference maker.

 
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Ben Rothlesberger because both teams are strong against the run. Both teams will try and run the ball, but won't have great success.I have been on Ben's bandwagon since his senior year in Miami, OH and was in shock when Phillip Rivers was drafted before him. Ben will be the youngest QB in SB history to win it and he'll win in as the SB MVP as he will be asked to make plays in the passing game because of Seattle's stingy run defense.Hines Ward will also have a solid game, but MVP this year is the QB.

 
On the Steelers side, I am going to go with that rookie cornerback (forgot his name). He quietly made a huge play on the Peyton to Reggie pass late in the divisional game which should have solidify his confidence.
McFadden is the CB you are talking about...kid looks to be a gamer. :thumbup:
 
On the Steelers side, I am going to go with that rookie cornerback (forgot his name).  He quietly made a huge play on the Peyton to Reggie pass late in the divisional game which should have solidify his confidence.
McFadden is the CB you are talking about...kid looks to be a gamer. :thumbup:
Thanks, that kid should have no jitters. While the World appears to be crumbling around the Steelers, Peyton intentionally under threw Wayne to possibly draw a pass interference call on the young kid and the kid stepped up.I am sure when he looks back on his career, that may be the play McFadden references as a point where he knew he could play this game at a high level and not second guess himself.

 
This is an intriguing question, and should make many realize that both teams have an abundance of playmakers on both sides of the ball. I'll be honest. I haven't a clue who will be the stud this year. I expect Hass to be around 250-300, w/ a couple of TD's and a pick, and Alexander solid 90 yds, 1 TD. The receivers should all see action, as well as Jeremy Stevens. Seattle also has a rather talented defense. For Pittsburgh, they also have the talented D, and a QB who should play quite well, with similar numbers to Hass. I think Pitts 2 headed attack will garner more rushing yards and TD's. To me this game will come down to the role players, being Engram, Randal El, Cedric Wilson, etc. Bottom line, I expect a very exciting SB.

 
On the Steelers side, I am going to go with that rookie cornerback (forgot his name).  He quietly made a huge play on the Peyton to Reggie pass late in the divisional game which should have solidify his confidence.
McFadden is the CB you are talking about...kid looks to be a gamer. :thumbup:
Thanks, that kid should have no jitters. While the World appears to be crumbling around the Steelers, Peyton intentionally under threw Wayne to possibly draw a pass interference call on the young kid and the kid stepped up.I am sure when he looks back on his career, that may be the play McFadden references as a point where he knew he could play this game at a high level and not second guess himself.
Kid might be starting next year. Steelers secondary is no longer a weak spot.
 
I'm going with the 12th man. I see a distinct crowd advantage for the Steelers in this game and they make the difference.

 
Joey Porter - forces a fumble on a crucial drive. Or just gets a big sack, either way a big play.Whoever covers Hines Ward - don't bite early like Chump Bailey, and he might get a INT. Going out on a limb with this, but Peter Warrick may surprise some people in this game.

 
Jerramy Stevens

The Steelers can't cover everybody and the LBs first responsibility will be stopping Alexander. I could see Stevens with 5+ catches for 75+ yards and a TD. Not MVP numbers, but definately a difference maker.
Very :goodposting: The Steelers seem to often give up TDs and big plays to the TE.

On the flip side, as much as I had been critical of Joey Porter's play early in the year, he has really stepped it up over the past couple of months.

This has all the makings of a good game, I really hope that it is.

 
I'm going with the 12th man. I see a distinct crowd advantage for the Steelers in this game and they make the difference.
I concur on the biggest surprise being the 12th man, but not the Steeler one. If you're expecting Steeler fans to hugely outnumber Seahawk fans, I think you're going to be surprised.There's a reason you see a lot of #12 Seahawk jerseys in a crowd, and a flag flying above Qwest field. I think the biggest surprise will be how loud Seahawk fans are and how well we travel for the big game.

For a player, I think one of the safties makes a big play. I'm guessing either Boulware or Polamalu makes a big play for their team in the clutch - I'm hoping it's Boulware.

 
I concur on the biggest surprise being the 12th man, but not the Steeler one. If you're expecting Steeler fans to hugely outnumber Seahawk fans, I think you're going to be surprised.
You must be crazy. Now I am not putting down the Seahawk fans. It is my opinion that Pittsburgh has a much larger national following. I could be wrong.
 
I concur on the biggest surprise being the 12th man, but not the Steeler one. If you're expecting Steeler fans to hugely outnumber Seahawk fans, I think you're going to be surprised.
You must be crazy. Now I am not putting down the Seahawk fans. It is my opinion that Pittsburgh has a much larger national following. I could be wrong.
First, this is the Bus's home town.Second, Pittsburgh is a helluva lot closer to Detroit than Seattle is. (Then again, the average income of a Seattle fan probably exceeds Pitt's fans)

I'm just guessing here, but out of the good NFL teams, I'm assuming Seattle has among the lowest fan base.

 
I concur on the biggest surprise being the 12th man, but not the Steeler one. If you're expecting Steeler fans to hugely outnumber Seahawk fans, I think you're going to be surprised.There's a reason you see a lot of #12 Seahawk jerseys in a crowd, and a flag flying above Qwest field. I think the biggest surprise will be how loud Seahawk fans are and how well we travel for the big game.
Even if you're right, and the fan bases at the game are equal, or hey, I'll even give Seattle a slight edge, does Pitt look like a team that's bothered by crowd noise?
 
I concur on the biggest surprise being the 12th man, but not the Steeler one. If you're expecting Steeler fans to hugely outnumber Seahawk fans, I think you're going to be surprised.

There's a reason you see a lot of #12 Seahawk jerseys in a crowd, and a flag flying above Qwest field. I think the biggest surprise will be how loud Seahawk fans are and how well we travel for the big game.
Even if you're right, and the fan bases at the game are equal, or hey, I'll even give Seattle a slight edge, does Pitt look like a team that's bothered by crowd noise?
:goodposting:
 
I agree with the few other posters that Joe Jurevicious will be surprise player for the Seahawks. He is a strong receiver that comes up big in clutch situations. He should be single covered all game long and will be a nice safety valve for Hass against the blitzing steelers.For pittsburgh I think that Hines Ward will be the big player of the game. I think Seattle will try and stop the run of Pitt and will lead to nice plays from Ward.

 
I concur on the biggest surprise being the 12th man, but not the Steeler one. If you're expecting Steeler fans to hugely outnumber Seahawk fans, I think you're going to be surprised.
You must be crazy. Now I am not putting down the Seahawk fans. It is my opinion that Pittsburgh has a much larger national following. I could be wrong.
Actually, I'm not crazy. You're right about a much larger national following for the Steelers having a huge national following, which allows them to have fans everywhere. The reasons for this national following are multiple but 2 big ones are:1. Having a period of dynastic dominance followed by sustained excellence. Right now you see certain teams with large followings due to being very good - lots of fans that are either picking a team when they are young and end up rooting for that team, or start out as bandwagon jumpers who finally settle down to have one team.

2. Pittsburgh Metro Area's economic downturn during/after the Steeler heyday has displaced a large number of Pittsburghers elsewhere. PA as a whole has bled jobs, but Pitt more than Philly. This of course translates into second generation fans being born into fandom families and coming of age now.

This means you get Steeler fans everywhere.

Seahawks fans are NOT everywhere. Outside the Pacific NW, there are probably some of us who picked up the team during expansion, or during the '80s. Others were born into a family of fandom that may have been transplanted, but not ahving been around as long, means the roots run less deep. We are not everywhere in vast numbers, and Seattle is farther than every other city that has a NFL franchise, so travel to regular season road games is more prohibitive fo rus than anyone else.

But here's why everyone thinks I am nuts:

How well teams travel to the Super Bowl is NOT reflected by how well fans attend away games in general. In fact, I feel the Seahawks are specifically the team most likely to be underepresented by that thinking due to the distance factor above.

The relative size of the fanbase is of little import in determining who is in attendance. It's will show up in the allegiance of the number of corporate suit types who end up at these events, but Ford Field can't hold nearly enough fans for either team that want to attend.

I think the relative depth of the fanbase is more important. The diehard fans of either team who really want to pay top dollar to go, will go. The casual fan isn't going anyway. While economic factors play a role - a guy who can't afford it is shut out - it's less likely to impact huge championship level events.

I am confident that the Seahawks fanbase that has the money to go by and large will have the desire to go. The marginal cost difference of the plane from Seattle to Detroit versus transport of whatever type from Pittsburgh (or wherever) to Detroit is much less a factor than the cost of the ticket to the game. Of course the Steeler fans in Detroit proper will have a huge advantage, they may be Lions ticket holders, and are already there.

 
I concur on the biggest surprise being the 12th man, but not the Steeler one. If you're expecting Steeler fans to hugely outnumber Seahawk fans, I think you're going to be surprised.
You must be crazy. Now I am not putting down the Seahawk fans. It is my opinion that Pittsburgh has a much larger national following. I could be wrong.
Actually, I'm not crazy. You're right about a much larger national following for the Steelers having a huge national following, which allows them to have fans everywhere. The reasons for this national following are multiple but 2 big ones are:1. Having a period of dynastic dominance followed by sustained excellence. Right now you see certain teams with large followings due to being very good - lots of fans that are either picking a team when they are young and end up rooting for that team, or start out as bandwagon jumpers who finally settle down to have one team.

2. Pittsburgh Metro Area's economic downturn during/after the Steeler heyday has displaced a large number of Pittsburghers elsewhere. PA as a whole has bled jobs, but Pitt more than Philly. This of course translates into second generation fans being born into fandom families and coming of age now.

This means you get Steeler fans everywhere.

Seahawks fans are NOT everywhere. Outside the Pacific NW, there are probably some of us who picked up the team during expansion, or during the '80s. Others were born into a family of fandom that may have been transplanted, but not ahving been around as long, means the roots run less deep. We are not everywhere in vast numbers, and Seattle is farther than every other city that has a NFL franchise, so travel to regular season road games is more prohibitive fo rus than anyone else.

But here's why everyone thinks I am nuts:

How well teams travel to the Super Bowl is NOT reflected by how well fans attend away games in general. In fact, I feel the Seahawks are specifically the team most likely to be underepresented by that thinking due to the distance factor above.

The relative size of the fanbase is of little import in determining who is in attendance. It's will show up in the allegiance of the number of corporate suit types who end up at these events, but Ford Field can't hold nearly enough fans for either team that want to attend.

I think the relative depth of the fanbase is more important. The diehard fans of either team who really want to pay top dollar to go, will go. The casual fan isn't going anyway. While economic factors play a role - a guy who can't afford it is shut out - it's less likely to impact huge championship level events.

I am confident that the Seahawks fanbase that has the money to go by and large will have the desire to go. The marginal cost difference of the plane from Seattle to Detroit versus transport of whatever type from Pittsburgh (or wherever) to Detroit is much less a factor than the cost of the ticket to the game. Of course the Steeler fans in Detroit proper will have a huge advantage, they may be Lions ticket holders, and are already there.
steve, sorry. you're nuts:link

"With the Pittsburgh Steelers getting in, there won't be enough merchandise in the city," said Steve Sodell, president of Sports Fan Marketing Inc., of Scottsdale, Ariz., which has seven area Super Bowl stores. "The town will be painted black and gold, basically. There will be 100,000-plus Steelers fans coming to town and about 5,000 Seattle fans.

"Pittsburgh getting in was the best thing for the city of Detroit. Their fans will come to party. They are passionate and they travel. They just love their team."
 
I concur on the biggest surprise being the 12th man, but not the Steeler one. If you're expecting Steeler fans to hugely outnumber Seahawk fans, I think you're going to be surprised.
You must be crazy. Now I am not putting down the Seahawk fans. It is my opinion that Pittsburgh has a much larger national following. I could be wrong.
First, this is the Bus's home town.Second, Pittsburgh is a helluva lot closer to Detroit than Seattle is. (Then again, the average income of a Seattle fan probably exceeds Pitt's fans)

I'm just guessing here, but out of the good NFL teams, I'm assuming Seattle has among the lowest fan base.
price and distance will not make a difference in the attendance in this games.it will be EXACTLY like a home game for the steelers for they are one of the most travelled teams if not THE most.

minus of course the jersey color :D

 
Guys, I'm only talking about inside the stadium. I fully expected Detroit to become a suburb of Pittsburgh for this game - if it was Bears-Steelers, it'd be a tie more or less, though.100,000 Steeler fans coming to town is fine, but there are only about 56,000 regular seats, and a bunch of those are already spoken for - unless Tice-esque scalping happens again.In the stadium it will be a lot closer than you guys think, certainly NOT 20-1. It's a prediction, and we'll see come game time. I'd say 2-1 Steelers, 3-1 tops. And that's far from a "home game" atmosphere.I don't think the noise will bother either team.

 
Polamalu - the seahawks have not played pittsburgh since 2003, when troy was barely realizing his potential and in a major adjustment period. they just won't be ready for how this guy literally flies around the field and lines up in 4 different positions. I expect him to frustrate SA and hasselbeck all day.
Aside from the fact that Polamalu can't literally fly around the field... :goodposting: The QBs get all the press as usual, but the best player at any position in this year's playoffs has been Polamalu.

 
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I think Willie Parker is due to break a big play. In three of his last 4 regular season games he had at least one play over 40 yards. In the post season he has no single play over 20 yards.

I can also see Randle El doing something on special teams or a trick play.
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I think Willie Parker is due to break a big play. In three of his last 4 regular season games he had at least one play over 40 yards. In the post season he has no single play over 20 yards.

I can also see Randle El doing something on special teams or a trick play.
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Good call. :thumbup:
 
I'll say the refs. They'll either make some God-awful call like they've made all playoffs, or they'll be conspicuous in their absence.
OH!!!!THERE IT IS - THE WINNER!!!!!!

 

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