This is nice to see, especially coming from a Pats fan. Not that Brady isn't worthy(as much as I hate to admit that), but no one is single handedly doing more for his team than this guy. He should be MVP because he makes football fun to watch again. No special talent. Just hard nosed football and lays it all on the field every game. It's too bad for him the rest of his team sucks so bad and the MVP is measured by how far your team goes. I think he is the true MVP of the league regardless.Side note: As good as Brady is, I really want to hit him every time he shakes his hair back like a little girl.
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This is nice to see, especially coming from a Pats fan. Not that Brady isn't worthy(as much as I hate to admit that), but no one is single handedly doing more for his team than this guy. He should be MVP because he makes football fun to watch again. No special talent. Just hard nosed football and lays it all on the field every game. It's too bad for him the rest of his team sucks so bad and the MVP is measured by how far your team goes. I think he is the true MVP of the league regardless.Side note: As good as Brady is, I really want to hit him every time he shakes his hair back like a little girl.
Joe T
Footballguy
homer alert.
bostonfred
Footballguy
I like watching Hillis run and I've been enjoying his fantasy football numbers, but the real reason he's doing so well is the number of attempts he gets behind one of the best run blocking lines in football. Jerome Harrison looked pretty good last year, too. But even if he were doing this singlehandedly, like Tomlinson used to do behind those terrible San Diego O lines, the MVP award pretty much goes out in this order:- A player who has a record setting season for a winning team- A QB who has the runaway best statistical season in the NFL for a winning team- A player who has a record setting season for a losing team- A QB who has the runaway best statistical season in the NFL for a losing team- A non QB who has the runaway best statistical season in the NFL for a winning team- A QB who has a good season for a winning teamAnd the tiebreaker is popularity. The odds of a non QB who nobody had heard of from Cleveland winning this award are pretty slim.This is nice to see, especially coming from a Pats fan. Not that Brady isn't worthy(as much as I hate to admit that), but no one is single handedly doing more for his team than this guy. He should be MVP because he makes football fun to watch again. No special talent. Just hard nosed football and lays it all on the field every game. It's too bad for him the rest of his team sucks so bad and the MVP is measured by how far your team goes. I think he is the true MVP of the league regardless.Side note: As good as Brady is, I really want to hit him every time he shakes his hair back like a little girl.
captain_amazing
Footballguy
Aw, so generous, especially coming from a jets fan
It's too bad for him the rest of his team sucks so bad and the MVP is measured by how far your team goes. I think he is the true MVP of the league regardless.
Side note: As good as Brady is, I really want to hit him every time he shakes his hair back like a little girl.
...... If I had a MVP vote, I too would vote for Peyton Hillis. He is a bulldozer.
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
Hi VOR, Ryan has about 13 more passing yards, but other than that he is behind in virtually every single category. I am not claiming Ryan isn't a serious contender, I just asked the OP for some sort of rational reasoning for putting Ryan way ahead of Brady. Maybe it was just a fishing expedition or something else; there doesn't seem to be much logic to it.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
With Patriots D, the Patriots would be very lucky to be 3-9 without Brady. And I doubt his backup could lead them to a victory over a 9-2 team, like Kevin Kolb did for the Eagles.
jojoh07
Footballguy
Hard to imagine a Bellicheck team being that awful
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Its Rivers.
PizzaDeliveryGuy
extra sausage
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
yeah didnt the pats go 11-5 the year tom tore his knee up? But then again everyone forgets the cleveland years
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
That means nada. In 2008, their receivers were much better, and their defense was in the top 10, as opposed to be 2nd to last this year in total yards.
sho nuff
Footballguy
The whole take player x off the team and they stink is a bad one IMO.
Because nearly every team with an elite or darn good QB would stink if you take away their starting QB.
Green Bay without Rodgers
Indy without Manning.
Atlanta without Ryan
NE without Brady
SD without Rivers
and so on.
Because nearly every team with an elite or darn good QB would stink if you take away their starting QB.
Green Bay without Rodgers
Indy without Manning.
Atlanta without Ryan
NE without Brady
SD without Rivers
and so on.
Chaka
Footballguy
Isn't Matt Cassel the reigning AFC Offensive Player of the month? Heck the way he's playing Cassel is working himself into the MVP conversation with what everyone thought would be a mediocre Kansas City team. It might just be that Cassel is a really good QB and the Pats were lucky to have him.
Chaka
Footballguy
No kidding. I hate that argument.
Power Monster
The Midnight Stalker
Rivers, Vick or Foster- 3 man race...
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I have seen several places that if NE beats the Jets and the Pats go on to a #1 seed that Brady would be the leader and Rivers would be right there as well (provided the Chargers make the playoffs, he continues on a record setting pace, and the Chargers don't sneak in with like a 9-7 record).
Masked Vigilante
Footballguy
It's Brady or Vick at this point.
Rivers probably wasn't the reason the Chargers lost today but I have a hard time giving it to a guy who just got sweeped by the Raiders.
Rivers probably wasn't the reason the Chargers lost today but I have a hard time giving it to a guy who just got sweeped by the Raiders.
PizzaDeliveryGuy
extra sausage
Just Win Baby said:
I would now say it is between Ryan, Brady, Vick, and MJD.
Dizzy
Footballguy
No Aaron Rogers?Just Win Baby said:
After today, Aaron Rodgers is my front-runner with Michael Vick number two.
Matt Ryan had a bad game, but he's still in the mix.
Tamba Hali, Trent Cole, and Kyle Williams would all be solid choices as well, but they're unfairly discriminated against as non-QBs.
We'll see what Brady does on Monday night.
Manning and Rivers, who may have been the two front-runners 3–4 weeks ago, are both basically eliminated.
Matt Ryan had a bad game, but he's still in the mix.
Tamba Hali, Trent Cole, and Kyle Williams would all be solid choices as well, but they're unfairly discriminated against as non-QBs.
We'll see what Brady does on Monday night.
Manning and Rivers, who may have been the two front-runners 3–4 weeks ago, are both basically eliminated.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Rodgers and Ryan should both be in the discussion, but neither have gotten enough hype at this point to probably win it.
Manning is out of the discussion now. Rivers probably is, too.
And what Brady is doing with the Patriots this year is still far more impressive than what Vick is doing, so he has to be the favorite right now, even if they don't win tonight.
Manning is out of the discussion now. Rivers probably is, too.
And what Brady is doing with the Patriots this year is still far more impressive than what Vick is doing, so he has to be the favorite right now, even if they don't win tonight.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Agreed...Rodgers can get the hype if he can run the table including a "head to head" with Brady in 2 weeks.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
This race is over.
CaptainObvious
Footballguy
I was on the River bandwagon big time but after the last two weeks< I think we can go ahead and shut this thread down.
ScottyFargo
Footballguy
Update?
Neofight
Footballguy
Maurile does not like Tom's hair.
Tau837
Footballguy
Brady is having his second best season, and arguably the best season of any QB this year, while leading the Pats into Super Bowl favorite status. In addition, he is a past MVP and an established great player, which gives him an edge with the voters over guys like Rodgers and Ryan. And his clean, golden boy image gives him an edge with the voters over Vick.
I think Brady has a stranglehold on it right now and would have to fade badly down the stretch while someone else like Rodgers or Vick finished with a string of great games while their teams win out, or something like that.
I think Brady has a stranglehold on it right now and would have to fade badly down the stretch while someone else like Rodgers or Vick finished with a string of great games while their teams win out, or something like that.
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Jason Wood
Zoo York
Interesting to see Brady wasn't even on the ballot initially and now he's the odds on favorite. Rivers needs help from his teammates. He needs to go at least 3-1, but probably 4-0 to really have any shot IMHO. Meanwhile Brady has been putting on a clinic and the Pats have given themselves a leg up for best record and home field, while putting up huge offensive numbers with what many voters perceive as a less-than-elite set of supporting skill position players.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
Brady will win b/c it's a favorites game not a true MVP race.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Brady is currently:
- On the team with the best record (albeit tied at the top)
- On the team with the most points scored (and on pace to score over 500 points on the season)
- Is ranked #1 in passer rating
- Has the longest hair of any of the other contending MVP QBs
At this point I don't see how anyone else could be leading the race (which is not to say there aren't other candidates or that things can't change).
- On the team with the best record (albeit tied at the top)
- On the team with the most points scored (and on pace to score over 500 points on the season)
- Is ranked #1 in passer rating
- Has the longest hair of any of the other contending MVP QBs
At this point I don't see how anyone else could be leading the race (which is not to say there aren't other candidates or that things can't change).
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Jagerbomber
Footballguy
Considering that the Pats D is still a work in progress (regardless of the drubbing Sanchez took last night), I'd have to agree with this. No love for Matt Cassel?
Ah Rivers ain't so bad. He just makes stupid faces every now and then. Besides Favre has 3 MVP's so...
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NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
Thats because MT hasn't posted yet! He won't tell us why, but considering Brady wasn't even in his top tier last week, it's not hard to imagine that "anyone else" will be making yet another appearance
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bostonfred
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ufshowboat
Footballguy
Troy Polamalu.... and it shouldn't even be close.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
He is the top defensive candidate...what a stud.
Brady has certainly gotten hot at the right time. His last two games have been his two best by far. He went through a cold streak in the middle of the season against the Chargers, Vikings, and Browns; but he's been on fire since then.
I think Brady is the clear front-runner now with Rodgers and Vick behind him.
(On a side note, I don't think Polamalu is anywhere near the conversation. His poor stretch in the middle of the season when he was taken advantage of in coverage by the Dolphins and Saints is too much to overcome. If you're looking for a safety to include in the conversation, look to the Eagles' Quintin Mikell. But he's not really in it either. I do think that Tamba Hali, Trent Cole, and Kyle Williams would all be legitimate choices, but they're the only non-QBs I'd say that about this season.)
I think Brady is the clear front-runner now with Rodgers and Vick behind him.
(On a side note, I don't think Polamalu is anywhere near the conversation. His poor stretch in the middle of the season when he was taken advantage of in coverage by the Dolphins and Saints is too much to overcome. If you're looking for a safety to include in the conversation, look to the Eagles' Quintin Mikell. But he's not really in it either. I do think that Tamba Hali, Trent Cole, and Kyle Williams would all be legitimate choices, but they're the only non-QBs I'd say that about this season.)
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bostonfred
Footballguy
Tau837
Footballguy
It was very easy to argue against him when I made that post. He wasn't the leader at that time. However, things have changed quite a bit with 3 more games completed.Brady has completed about 75% of his passes, with 10 TDs and 0 interceptions and about a 140 QB rating over that stretch, while the Pats went 3-0. Meanwhile, Rivers fell off the season single yardage record pace and also lost the league lead in TDs and passing yards, plus the Chargers took a bad loss at home that puts their playoff chances in jeopardy... and Manning has fared even worse, with 11 interceptions in the last 3 games, all of which the Colts lost.I already posted above that he has put himself into position as the leader.
Neofight
Footballguy
That game against Pittsburgh in week 10 wasn't too shabby.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Neofight
Footballguy
Nice write up, Chase. What does it look like with this week thrown in?
