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Watching live streaming video... That place is crawling with local and state police. Way too much activity there for just an obstruction of justice rap.

 
randall146 said:
Why handcuff a guy who's sat around at home waiting to be arrested for a week?
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This struck me too. They have to have been in pretty constant contact with Fee. In the Commonwealth's place, I'd avoid the perp walk just so that it looks like I don't have it out for Hernandez. This looks like PR posturing.

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
randall146 said:
Why handcuff a guy who's sat around at home waiting to be arrested for a week?
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This struck me too. They have to have been in pretty constant contact with Fee. In the Commonwealth's place, I'd avoid the perp walk just so that it looks like I don't have it out for Hernandez. This looks like PR posturing.
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I'm guessing the prosecutor got pissed at his attorney or some of the evidence they found already mixed with the evidence that was destroyed has the prosecutor saying, WTH, let's just get the ball rolling and get me some camera time.

 
Sheesh, there are posters in the SP hoping that the police screw something up so that he goes free since they just traded for him.

I think it may be time to stop playing magic football when you hope someone gets away with murder because he's on your pretend team.

 
Yankee23Fan said:
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
randall146 said:
Why handcuff a guy who's sat around at home waiting to be arrested for a week?
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This struck me too. They have to have been in pretty constant contact with Fee. In the Commonwealth's place, I'd avoid the perp walk just so that it looks like I don't have it out for Hernandez. This looks like PR posturing.
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I'm guessing the prosecutor got pissed at his attorney or some of the evidence they found already mixed with the evidence that was destroyed has the prosecutor saying, WTH, let's just get the ball rolling and get me some camera time.
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:goodposting:

You get that, um, creative with the evidence and you're going to get zero favors from the cops. I have no complaints about that.

 
Is there some magic to June 30 with respect to cap repercussions? They might have pulled the trigger, as it were, to free up some cap room for this coming season??

 
johnnycakes said:
Is there some magic to June 30 with respect to cap repercussions? They might have pulled the trigger, as it were, to free up some cap room for this coming season??
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There is something, but I don't think it applies here since both this year and next year's salaries are guaranteed for Hernandez.

 
Andy Dufresne said:
He killed that dude, didn't he?
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Hernandez has been linked with various gang types and it was the off field stuff that caused him to fall so far. A lot of teams seem to have felt something like this was very possible and so they were scared off. Or at least that is what unnamed sources have been saying the last week or so.

 
I just got an email from Directv with a subject "Don't miss his final killing spree". I thought it was about Aaron Hernandez instead of Dexter.

 
NCCommish said:
johnnycakes said:
Is there some magic to June 30 with respect to cap repercussions? They might have pulled the trigger, as it were, to free up some cap room for this coming season??
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Can you back date him as a June 1st cut if you cut him before June ends?
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I think the way it works is that anyone released after June 1 gets to have their cap hit spread over two seasons. spotrac is showing that this is what is happening. He counts for ~$3M this year and ~$8M next year in terms of dead money.

 
From PFT:

For 2013, the Patriots will carry a $2.5 million charge for the portion of his $12.5 million signing bonus, paid last year. Hernandez’s base salary of $1.323 million is fully guaranteed, and so the cap number will remain $4.073 million unless and until the Patriots can finagle a way to avoid paying him. (Chances are they’ll try.)

Because the move comes after June 1, the balance of the cap charge will apply to 2014. That’s $7.5 million in signing bonus money, and possibly another $1.137 million in guaranteed salary. That’s $8.637 million that the Patriots will carry for Hernandez next year.
 
If he returns to the game, he can be one of the least clutch TEs for some other team. Maybe replace Finley, equal levels of clutchitude.

 
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Andy Dufresne said:
From PFT:

For 2013, the Patriots will carry a $2.5 million charge for the portion of his $12.5 million signing bonus, paid last year. Hernandez’s base salary of $1.323 million is fully guaranteed, and so the cap number will remain $4.073 million unless and until the Patriots can finagle a way to avoid paying him. (Chances are they’ll try.)

Because the move comes after June 1, the balance of the cap charge will apply to 2014. That’s $7.5 million in signing bonus money, and possibly another $1.137 million in guaranteed salary. That’s $8.637 million that the Patriots will carry for Hernandez next year.
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Amazing that every single NFL contract, Pennington to Carruth, doesn't have some type of crime clause.

 
Sinn Fein said:
3C said:
now the question becomes how much does AH have to pay back to the Pats?
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By cutting him, I think the Patriots gave up the right to go after any money.

The bigger fight might be for guaranteed money still owed to Hernandez.
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hmm, trying to remember how the Falcons/Vick saga played out but I'll go with you're right until I hear differently. :D

 
3C said:
Sinn Fein said:
3C said:
now the question becomes how much does AH have to pay back to the Pats?
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By cutting him, I think the Patriots gave up the right to go after any money.

The bigger fight might be for guaranteed money still owed to Hernandez.
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hmm, trying to remember how the Falcons/Vick saga played out but I'll go with you're right until I hear differently. :D
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first thing that popped up in a search:

The NFL recently granted the Atlanta Falcons $3 million worth of salary-cap credits due to the money Michael Vick owed the franchise after the quarterback declared bankruptcy following a conviction on dogfighting charges while a member of the Falcons, according to league sources.

The Falcons signed Vick to a 10-year, $130 million deal in 2005 that made him the top-paid player in the league then. But Vick lost it all when he went to jail and he eventually filed for bankruptcy.

As part of his $20 million settlement, Vick was ordered to repay part of his signing bonus from that deal to the Falcons.

It is unknown exactly how much money the Falcons received from the total that Vick owed, but Atlanta had been seeking the credits for months. The NFL granted the credits in March, shortly before the start of the new league year on March 13.

Atlanta began pursuing the credits shortly after Vick signed a six-year, $100 million deal that included $35 million worth of guaranteed money with the Philadelphia Eagles last summer.

Vick's contract with the Eagles meant he would be well positioned to clear all of the creditors listed in his original bankruptcy, of which the Falcons were the biggest.

Atlanta has had a busy offseason. The Falcons traded for Vick's former Eagles teammate Asante Samuel, re-signed John Abraham and Thomas DeCoud, used its franchise tag on Pro Bowl cornerback Brent Grimes and signed free agent linebacker Lofa Tatupu.
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-jb- said:
Andy Dufresne said:
From PFT:

For 2013, the Patriots will carry a $2.5 million charge for the portion of his $12.5 million signing bonus, paid last year. Hernandez’s base salary of $1.323 million is fully guaranteed, and so the cap number will remain $4.073 million unless and until the Patriots can finagle a way to avoid paying him. (Chances are they’ll try.)

Because the move comes after June 1, the balance of the cap charge will apply to 2014. That’s $7.5 million in signing bonus money, and possibly another $1.137 million in guaranteed salary. That’s $8.637 million that the Patriots will carry for Hernandez next year.
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Amazing that every single NFL contract, Pennington to Carruth, doesn't have some type of crime clause.
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Given all the rumors out there that NFL teams were scared off by his off field associations it's possible that the Pats did put in some kind of morals clause. They are pretty smart about personnel usually.

 
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