Why is Chris Johnson the consensus #1? (2 Viewers)

[mjm3773]

It really just boils down two these two statements, which are NOT mutually exclusive:

1) It is more likely than not that Chris Johnson will not finish 2010 as the #1 rb. (The OP's claim)

2) Chris Johnson has a better chance to finish #1 than any other single rb. (The rebuttal, which is why he is the consensus #1 pick)

Since everybody loves the poker analogies, it's like when someone flops a set, ends up pushing and someone calls, having proper pot odds, with both a flush draw and an open-ended straight draw. The pusher got his money in with the best hand, the caller got the right odds to call. Both of them were right in their moves, it just that one will end up losing a lot of money.

Just like both of the above statements can both be true, but at the end one the year, only one will have taken place.

 

[sgtrobo]

Adrian Peterson or MJD, depending upon your league scoring

So under FBG scoring which is your guy? Which mod are you sending the money order do? I'd suggest Clayton, Rude, or COlin as i've had dealings with them before and they're great guys. Let me know when it's sent and I'll confirm it and get mine in their hands promptly.

Bump

*laughs*$500??? On a military salary? you drunk? I got 4 kids, 2 in college. The finance minister would shut me off in a heartbeat!I wouldn't bet $500 that I'll even be alive next year at this time, so....pass over some of that popcorn!

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Adrian Peterson or MJD, depending upon your league scoring

So under FBG scoring which is your guy? Which mod are you sending the money order do? I'd suggest Clayton, Rude, or COlin as i've had dealings with them before and they're great guys. Let me know when it's sent and I'll confirm it and get mine in their hands promptly.

Bump

*laughs*$500??? On a military salary? you drunk? I got 4 kids, 2 in college. The finance minister would shut me off in a heartbeat!I wouldn't bet $500 that I'll even be alive next year at this time, so....pass over some of that popcorn!

As soon as he said $500, I would have stopped paying attention... Of course no one on these boards is gonna make a $500 bet over FF player rankings.. And that's exactly what he was counting on.. So that he could lean back in his chair and and pretend he's called your bluff..

 

[Banger]

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=370

great writeup by Chase Stuart, a regular here (and the basis for this post)

good conversation in the discussion section beneath the blog post as well.

Good reading, even if you decide to discard it.

Look at LT in 2006, he scored 31 TDs and had a ridiculous record breaking year. Everyone said, there's no way he'll do that again, regression to the mean, blah, blah, blah, and he regressed to still be the #1 RB in 2007.

 

[sgtrobo]

actually Banger, you bring up an interesting corollary which goes along with a thread I put out about the WRs in 1995 and then their followup in 1996

In 2006, 5 RBs broke 2000 YFS, another one had 1900 YFS, and 10 had double digit TDs

In 2007, 1 RB broke 2000 YFS, 1 more had 1900 YFS, and only 6 had double digit TDs

interesting how much of a drop happened to the RBs that season

anyway, back to the specific subject of LT2, he broke a lot of "rules" when it comes to fantasy football. top 5 finish 7 consecutive seasons, top 3 RB for 6 consecutive seasons, top 7 for 8 consecutive seasons...kinda sucks what happens to RBs once they age. Chris Johnson might be the next LT2, who knows...

 

[Banger]

actually Banger, you bring up an interesting corollary which goes along with a thread I put out about the WRs in 1995 and then their followup in 1996In 2006, 5 RBs broke 2000 YFS, another one had 1900 YFS, and 10 had double digit TDsIn 2007, 1 RB broke 2000 YFS, 1 more had 1900 YFS, and only 6 had double digit TDsinteresting how much of a drop happened to the RBs that seasonanyway, back to the specific subject of LT2, he broke a lot of "rules" when it comes to fantasy football. top 5 finish 7 consecutive seasons, top 3 RB for 6 consecutive seasons, top 7 for 8 consecutive seasons...kinda sucks what happens to RBs once they age. Chris Johnson might be the next LT2, who knows...

that's the point. Stats are nice and I love them and are a necessity in this game we play but they are historical not predictive. Sometimes you get special backs (players) that break the mold and rewrite the books and the people that blindly rely on the historical stats can miss the boat because they are looking back not forward. That's the major reason that I dismiss the premise of this thread. I view Johnson as an incredibly special back (as I viewed LT at the time and had the identical arguements a couple years ago) and his regression will still leave him far higher than all but a few players ceilings.

 

[gandalas]

I'm not buying Light Blue Jesus this year. Yes, he had a phenomenal 2009. The problem is that my leagues use 2010 stats for scoring this year. I draft players based on how I think they'll do this year.If you're in a league that uses last year's numbers for scoring, then LBJ is easily #1.

incite like this is why this board is so great

The irony of this post is what makes this board so great. If you want to complain about someone's post not being insightful, you may want to spell "insight" correctly.... Unless you were going for "incite" as in "to incite a riot", or something like that?

 

[[icon]]

Adrian Peterson or MJD, depending upon your league scoring

So under FBG scoring which is your guy? Which mod are you sending the money order do? I'd suggest Clayton, Rude, or COlin as i've had dealings with them before and they're great guys. Let me know when it's sent and I'll confirm it and get mine in their hands promptly.

Bump

*laughs*$500??? On a military salary? you drunk? I got 4 kids, 2 in college. The finance minister would shut me off in a heartbeat!I wouldn't bet $500 that I'll even be alive next year at this time, so....pass over some of that popcorn!

As soon as he said $500, I would have stopped paying attention... Of course no one on these boards is gonna make a $500 bet over FF player rankings.. And that's exactly what he was counting on.. So that he could lean back in his chair and and pretend he's called your bluff..

Okay. You in for $100 then? $50? How much can you swing? Most of us spend $250-500 in league entry fees. I'm not pretending anything. I'm merely seeing if anyone out there saying Johnson won't finish as #1 is willing to put their money behind another player, or if they're just all bark and no bite. I'm not guaranteeing CJ finishes 1... but there's not a single player I'd put my money behind before him. It's really easy to say _______ won't be #1. Requires zero chops. I give SGT props for at least narrowing down to ADP/MJD (though he's still not mentioned which he would choose in std non ppr FBG scoring.). Pick a player, Pick a $ amount you can afford.... let's do this Hustler

 

[sgtrobo]

[icon], honest question here.

do you go into threads and place bets against anyone you disagree with? Not trying to be sarcastic, just wondering.

 

[[icon]]

[icon], honest question here.do you go into threads and place bets against anyone you disagree with? Not trying to be sarcastic, just wondering.

Not always. I like to have cash in play on various things throughout the season though. When I see a bet where I think I have the best of it I like to get my money down. Makes matters more interesting

 

[sgtrobo]

*laughs* well you keep at it then.

no cash from me though. wife found out I dropped $50 on a fantasy football bet, I'd spend the entire season watching games from the dog-house. good luck with your bets though.

 

[Redgun]

As of yesterday he's no longer #1 on my DD. Got the latest Projections yesterday and Rice jumped up to #1 w/ CJ at #2. It's a 10 team ppr league w/ QB's included in flex. It also dropped AP down to #8 behind 4 QB's. I was ready to take CJ #1, probably still will. My draft is tomorrow and this really has me thinking again. Why would Rice jump up from 4? PPR? Calls about McGahee?

 

[sgtrobo]

wow, of all people to jump in front of Johnson, the least talented of the big 4.

QBs included in flex? Wow, that SCREAMS "grab QBs early" unless your scoring is really down on passing

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Okay. You in for $100 then? $50? How much can you swing? Most of us spend $250-500 in league entry fees. I'm not pretending anything. I'm merely seeing if anyone out there saying Johnson won't finish as #1 is willing to put their money behind another player, or if they're just all bark and no bite. I'm not guaranteeing CJ finishes 1... but there's not a single player I'd put my money behind before him. It's really easy to say _______ won't be #1. Requires zero chops. I give SGT props for at least narrowing down to ADP/MJD (though he's still not mentioned which he would choose in std non ppr FBG scoring.). Pick a player, Pick a $ amount you can afford.... let's do this Hustler

Why don't you reverse it and bet him $500 that Johnson will be #1... After all, those seem to be better odds then AP or MJD...I agree that you could do that with any player and odds are more in favor of the guy claiming _____ won't be #___... But reversing the theory and trying to bully him into laying a real money wager on it seems to be bad form to me...Stick with sig bets for intern form squabbles...

 

[sgtrobo]

I give SGT props for at least narrowing down to ADP/MJD (though he's still not mentioned which he would choose in std non ppr FBG scoring.).

my bad. I just saw this. non-PPR is AD all the way

 

[Aardvarks]

I've never seen this Draft Dominator gizmo but if it's telling you to draft Ray Rice over Chris Johnson it needs to be taken off the shelves, I don't care what the damn scoring system is.

 

[atl3695]

This is a funny thread and it will be interesting to come back at the end of the year. I put the odds of finishing as the top back in PPR leagues at:

CJ - 25%

AP - 20%

MJD - 20%

Rice - 10%

Field - 25% (Gore, Turner, DWill)

Not really much difference in the top 3. I feel that MJD is the most like to finish top 5. He has the lowest ceiling but highest floor. In my opinion Chris Johnson is the clear #1 because of his chance of going completely crazy. While SGT is right that he is unlikely to repeat, I think there is a 20% chance of him repeating last year's numbers.

The Titans have NO ONE else and Johnson is the centerpiece of the running AND passing game. He will probably be split out wide a lot more this year just based off the receivers the Titans are lining up. Javon Ringer is the only one to take carries. Its not like Vince Young is going to suddenly start throwing 40 times a game. Twenty carries a game average is guaranteed as long as he is healthy. Even knocking him down to 4.5/carry puts him at a FLOOR of about 1450 yards. Even with a 20% reduction in receiving, he will have another 40 catches and 400 yards. He is knocking on 2000 yfs with these conservative numbers.

Now add in the fact that he finished last year with 11 straight 100 yard games and the Titans have no choice but to ride him. Also remember last year the TItans tried hard to get him the 2000 yards. If the Titans are out of contention and CJ is anywhere close, he may get 40 carries those last couple of games trying to get him the 2000 again. Right in time for the fantasy playoffs. The only way CJ doesnt finish top 5 is if he gets hurt, and he has the potential to truly lap the field like he did last year.

 

[[icon]]

Why don't you reverse it and bet him $500 that Johnson will be #1... After all, those seem to be better odds then AP or MJD...I agree that you could do that with any player and odds are more in favor of the guy claiming _____ won't be #___... But reversing the theory and trying to bully him into laying a real money wager on it seems to be bad form to me...Stick with sig bets for intern form squabbles...

Sig bets are for kids. You're missing the point. If I was going to wager $500 that CJ would finish #1 I'd need at least 6-1 or 7-1 to make it worthwhile. I'm fairly certain nobody's paying 3500 to 500 on this. I wasn't bullying anyone. I offered the wager as a test to see if anyone making this guarantee that CJ was out of the running for #1 actually believed that statement enough to put some coin behind it. He's a grown man and doesn't need you sticking up for him.

 

[joffer]

I've never seen this Draft Dominator gizmo but if it's telling you to draft Ray Rice over Chris Johnson it needs to be taken off the shelves, I don't care what the damn scoring system is.

awesome

 

[Redgun]

wow, of all people to jump in front of Johnson, the least talented of the big 4.QBs included in flex? Wow, that SCREAMS "grab QBs early" unless your scoring is really down on passing

4pt TDs, 6pts for 50+yd TDs1pt/20yds3pts for 300ydsnot as early as they should. I'm looking to take one in rd3 only if its romo or schaub.

 

[two_dollars]

I also have him 3rd in ppr behind AP and MJD.

 

[Clifton]

Adrian Peterson or MJD, depending upon your league scoring

So under FBG scoring which is your guy? Which mod are you sending the money order do? I'd suggest Clayton, Rude, or COlin as i've had dealings with them before and they're great guys. Let me know when it's sent and I'll confirm it and get mine in their hands promptly.

Bump

*laughs*$500??? On a military salary? you drunk? I got 4 kids, 2 in college. The finance minister would shut me off in a heartbeat!I wouldn't bet $500 that I'll even be alive next year at this time, so....pass over some of that popcorn!

As soon as he said $500, I would have stopped paying attention... Of course no one on these boards is gonna make a $500 bet over FF player rankings.. And that's exactly what he was counting on.. So that he could lean back in his chair and and pretend he's called your bluff..

$500? That's a drop in the bucket for most of us. I'm sure if Sargent Trobo had accepted icon wasn't bailing. Get real.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

$500? That's a drop in the bucket for most of us. I'm sure if Sargent Trobo had accepted icon wasn't bailing. Get real.

Get real?Yea, people around here are betting $500 on player_____ will rank ____ all the time. What fool would take that bet?How about this, Name a player and where you think he'll rank, I'll bet you $500 right now that he doesn't rank there. You'd be a fool to make that bet... It's not about the money, it's about how stupid it would be to bet $500 on such a ######ed idea..Who needs to get real?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

$500? That's a drop in the bucket for most of us. I'm sure if Sargent Trobo had accepted icon wasn't bailing. Get real.

Get real?Yea, people around here are betting $500 on player_____ will rank ____ all the time. What fool would take that bet?How about this, Name a player and where you think he'll rank, I'll bet you $500 right now that he doesn't rank there. You'd be a fool to make that bet... It's not about the money, it's about how stupid it would be to bet $500 on such a ######ed idea..Who needs to get real?

Re: "$500? That's a drop in the bucket for most of us." so now you know how much money each and every FBG poster has to spare?.. lol.. $500 is a lot of money. I would bet 75% or better of the FBG subscribers would agree.

 

[Dr. No]

$500? That's a drop in the bucket for most of us. I'm sure if Sargent Trobo had accepted icon wasn't bailing. Get real.

Get real?Yea, people around here are betting $500 on player_____ will rank ____ all the time. What fool would take that bet?How about this, Name a player and where you think he'll rank, I'll bet you $500 right now that he doesn't rank there. You'd be a fool to make that bet... It's not about the money, it's about how stupid it would be to bet $500 on such a ######ed idea..Who needs to get real?

Re: "$500? That's a drop in the bucket for most of us." so now you know how much money each and every FBG poster has to spare?.. lol.. $500 is a lot of money. I would bet 75% or better of the FBG subscribers would agree.

you don't come to the FFA much.we all clear 6 figures and are probably spending $500 on dinner and drinks tonight.it's chump change.I'm actually seriously thinking of taken Icon up on this because i'm in total agreement with the OP and $500 is truly chump change to me. Hell I made $500 after taxes by 10:00 am yesterday

 

[atl3695]

$500? That's a drop in the bucket for most of us. I'm sure if Sargent Trobo had accepted icon wasn't bailing. Get real.

Get real?



Yea, people around here are betting $500 on player_____ will rank ____ all the time. What fool would take that bet?

Fantasy football is all about choosing players that will outrank your opponents. The best wasn't who would finish #1, but each guy picks his RB and whoever scores the most points wins. Just like fantasy football. If you feel strongly about something you should be willing to put a small wager on it. SGT went on a LOOONG analysis about how Chris Johnson will underperform this year. He should jump at the chance to make an easy fifty bucks of his insight.

 

[[icon]]

$500? That's a drop in the bucket for most of us. I'm sure if Sargent Trobo had accepted icon wasn't bailing. Get real.

Clifton here has actually taken a nice $250 payday off me on the number of celebration fines issued during the 2008 season. This sorta thing happens a lot more frequently than you'd think. If you're talking about a bet that takes place over the course of several months, it's GOTTA be a couple hundred to even be interesting.

 

[[icon]]

Re: "$500? That's a drop in the bucket for most of us." so now you know how much money each and every FBG poster has to spare?.. lol.. $500 is a lot of money. I would bet 75% or better of the FBG subscribers would agree.

you don't come to the FFA much.we all clear 6 figures and are probably spending $500 on dinner and drinks tonight.it's chump change.I'm actually seriously thinking of taken Icon up on this because i'm in total agreement with the OP and $500 is truly chump change to me. Hell I made $500 after taxes by 10:00 am yesterday

I'm not sure Hustler is FFA caliber material. I think he's best served staying in here with the Sharks.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

$500? That's a drop in the bucket for most of us. I'm sure if Sargent Trobo had accepted icon wasn't bailing. Get real.

Get real?

Yea, people around here are betting $500 on player_____ will rank ____ all the time. What fool would take that bet?

How about this, Name a player and where you think he'll rank, I'll bet you $500 right now that he doesn't rank there.

You'd be a fool to make that bet... It's not about the money, it's about how stupid it would be to bet $500 on such a ######ed idea..

Who needs to get real?

BUMP

 

[sgtrobo]

what's that thing in your avatar, CarolinaHustler?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

what's that thing in your avatar, CarolinaHustler?

Ever seen the movie "Kung Fu Hustle"?

 

[Alex P Keaton]

what's that thing in your avatar, CarolinaHustler?

Ever seen the movie "Kung Fu Hustle"?

Nice. (had been wondering the same thing)

 

[[icon]]

$500? That's a drop in the bucket for most of us. I'm sure if Sargent Trobo had accepted icon wasn't bailing. Get real.

Get real?

Yea, people around here are betting $500 on player_____ will rank ____ all the time. What fool would take that bet?

How about this, Name a player and where you think he'll rank, I'll bet you $500 right now that he doesn't rank there.

You'd be a fool to make that bet... It's not about the money, it's about how stupid it would be to bet $500 on such a ######ed idea..

Who needs to get real?

BUMP

For every guy who gets it. I guess there are supposed to be a couple that don't.How about we simplify it for our new friend>>>> you pick one RB...I'll do the same (cj)...whoever finishes higher in the FBG top ten wins?

I am game vs the "hustler" for up to 1k. Ive been around here for a while and there are more than a couple of folks who will vouch for my ability to pay up.

simpler game for simpler minds (since you want to presss the issue )

 

[Carolina Hustler]

$500? That's a drop in the bucket for most of us. I'm sure if Sargent Trobo had accepted icon wasn't bailing. Get real.

Get real?

Yea, people around here are betting $500 on player_____ will rank ____ all the time. What fool would take that bet?

How about this, Name a player and where you think he'll rank, I'll bet you $500 right now that he doesn't rank there.

You'd be a fool to make that bet... It's not about the money, it's about how stupid it would be to bet $500 on such a ######ed idea..

Who needs to get real?

BUMP

For every guy who gets it. I guess there are supposed to be a couple that don't.How about we simplify it for our new friend>>>> you pick one RB...I'll do the same (cj)...whoever finishes higher in the FBG top ten wins?

I am game vs the "hustler" for up to 1k. Ive been around here for a while and there are more than a couple of folks who will vouch for my ability to pay up.

simpler game for simpler minds (since you want to presss the issue )

Are you afraid to take the same deal you offered earlier?

I'm not here looking for a bet, I'm here to prove a point. Your first offer seemed rather ridiculous, based on "player______ will rank______"... No one in their right mind would take that bet, yet you attempted to prove your point based on the fact he wasn't interested in the bet you offered.

If I feel adamant about something, like Crabtree vs Nicks vs Bryant, I've made bets there... But for you to ask me to bet, just for the sake of making a bet, would be outside of my character, so you've proven nothing when I decline...

Insulting me changes nothing by the way, but if you must resort to insults... by all means... A guy who exalts himself in his own sig line and insults other people shows great character traits...

 

[coachjim]

ok, a few points1) I'm an old man and I've been doing this for awhile. Monster YFS seasons back to back aren't rare. Monster rushing seasons back to back are rare, and history has a funny way of repeating itself.2) I'm not saying Chris Johnson is #13 or anything. I'm asking why he is SO far ahead of everyone else for #1? 10 of 12 FBG's have him ranked #1 and the others have him ranked #2.3) No, I don't have the #2 spot (grin) but if I did I'd grab MJD instead of Chris JohnsonAnyway, not poking fun or trying to criticize, just trying to get the mindset. Tons of articles go up year after year talking about the turnover in the top positions and one thing that has been consistent is that 2k yard rushers don't repeat, nor do they come close. I think Chris Johnson is an insane talent, but I don't think he's any more talented than Barry Sanders, Eric Dickerson, or O.J. Simpson (no glove jokes, please)

I am also an old guy. Been in Fantasy Football for 20 years. I have the first pick and will happily take CJ with that pick. I don't think anyone is saying that CJ is the best running back to ever play the game. By your own admission he has talent equal to Barry, Eric and OJ. You know what, I will take that production and go to the bank with it.

 

[Clifton]

$500? That's a drop in the bucket for most of us. I'm sure if Sargent Trobo had accepted icon wasn't bailing. Get real.

Get real?

Yea, people around here are betting $500 on player_____ will rank ____ all the time. What fool would take that bet?

How about this, Name a player and where you think he'll rank, I'll bet you $500 right now that he doesn't rank there.

You'd be a fool to make that bet... It's not about the money, it's about how stupid it would be to bet $500 on such a ######ed idea..

Who needs to get real?

BUMP

Totally different bet than what icon offered. Wasn't he saying he'd bet $500 if he could pick someone to rank higher than CJ?Your offer is ridiculous.

 

[[icon]]

Are you afraid to take the same deal you offered earlier?I'm not here looking for a bet, I'm here to prove a point. Your first offer seemed rather ridiculous, based on "player______ will rank______"... No one in their right mind would take that bet, yet you attempted to prove your point based on the fact he wasn't interested in the bet you offered.If I feel adamant about something, like Crabtree vs Nicks vs Bryant, I've made bets there... But for you to ask me to bet, just for the sake of making a bet, would be outside of my character, so you've proven nothing when I decline...Insulting me changes nothing by the way, but if you must resort to insults... by all means... A guy who exalts himself in his own sig line and insults other people shows great character traits...

The sig is a joke. This has been covered over in the real shark pool (FFA). You're also completely missing the point of my bet.... as has been pointed out by others in this thread. After seeing some of your other posts around the SP this isn't terribly surprising, however. Good luck in your leagues this year.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

$500? That's a drop in the bucket for most of us. I'm sure if Sargent Trobo had accepted icon wasn't bailing. Get real.

Get real?

Yea, people around here are betting $500 on player_____ will rank ____ all the time. What fool would take that bet?

How about this, Name a player and where you think he'll rank, I'll bet you $500 right now that he doesn't rank there.

You'd be a fool to make that bet... It's not about the money, it's about how stupid it would be to bet $500 on such a ######ed idea..

Who needs to get real?

BUMP

Totally different bet than what icon offered. Wasn't he saying he'd bet $500 if he could pick someone to rank higher than CJ?Your offer is ridiculous.

From what I can tell through reading back, that is what he said after I called him out...

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Are you afraid to take the same deal you offered earlier?I'm not here looking for a bet, I'm here to prove a point. Your first offer seemed rather ridiculous, based on "player______ will rank______"... No one in their right mind would take that bet, yet you attempted to prove your point based on the fact he wasn't interested in the bet you offered.If I feel adamant about something, like Crabtree vs Nicks vs Bryant, I've made bets there... But for you to ask me to bet, just for the sake of making a bet, would be outside of my character, so you've proven nothing when I decline...Insulting me changes nothing by the way, but if you must resort to insults... by all means... A guy who exalts himself in his own sig line and insults other people shows great character traits...

The sig is a joke. This has been covered over in the real shark pool (FFA). You're also completely missing the point of my bet.... as has been pointed out by others in this thread. After seeing some of your other posts around the SP this isn't terribly surprising, however. Good luck in your leagues this year.

"The Real Shark Pool"... lolAs if the place where you post, the amount of money you're willing to bet, or how many posts you've made, have anything to do with a persons character or judgment... lolYou continue to get in your digs though if it makes you feel better...

 

[Dr. No]

this isn't over yet.. 1 run doesn't make a season.

The injury or slump is coming!

it's coming!

 

[[icon]]

this isn't over yet.. 1 run doesn't make a season.The injury or slump is coming!it's coming!

They said dentists had the highest suicide rate but I never figured you for a negative nancy GB

 

[Dr. No]

this isn't over yet.. 1 run doesn't make a season.The injury or slump is coming!it's coming!

They said dentists had the highest suicide rate but I never figured you for a negative nancy GB

Not really negative nancy, I'm just really adamant about this prediction. Obviously i don't want to wish ill will or injury on any player or anyone's team.Also just really bitter and hacked that Federer lost yesterday.. i was anticipating the "match of the century" today. Now, I probably get my arch-tennis-nemesis Nadal probably straight setting an exhausted and satisfied Djokavic..terrible.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

CJ goes in for TD #2, after a very dominant drive... The guy is a beast..

 

[[icon]]

Pretty good start to the season...

 

[sgtrobo]

Since it's the 1/4 mark of the season, figured I'd bump this

#1 in rushing attempts

#6 in rushing yards

#11 in YFS

averaging 3.8 YPC

he has 2 carries > 20 yards, out of 94 rushing attempts

in 1st half of games, he's 51 attempts, 225 yards, 4.4 YPC

in 2nd half of games, he's 43 attempts, 129 yards, 3.3 YPC

10th in basic scoring and PPR scoring

lots of football left to play....

 

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Let's not forget that if you give Chris Johnson his 85 Yard TD against Pittsburgh (that was called back)... nobody would be doubting him for a second right now.

 

[CompetitiveEdgeFootball]

He's going to be fine. He didn't do much the whole first 1/3 of the season last year. He DOES have bad games. He just went on a run at the end of last year, where he didn't have many.

No matter what anyone says he's still had good, though a bit inconsistent, production this year.

He's not a guy that gets you 65 yds and a score every week.

He's a guy that'll get you 60 total yards 0 TDs one week, then 185 yards, 2 TDs the next. That's what CJ IS.

 

[ponchsox]

What's alarming is the number of CJ's carries that are less than 3 yards. Ron Jaworski mentioned it the other day and I was very suprised.

 

[sgtrobo]

Let's not forget that if you give Chris Johnson his 85 Yard TD against Pittsburgh (that was called back)... nobody would be doubting him for a second right now.

if Peyton doesn't stare down Reggie Wayne, he has a 2nd ringif Brady doesn't get the tuck rule, he doesn't have 3 ringsif the queen had balls...she'd be king

What's alarming is the number of CJ's carries that are less than 3 yards. Ron Jaworski mentioned it the other day and I was very suprised.

agreed. The right side of that line is looking really weak this season. Roos still looks dominant, but it seems like CJ is getting hit behind the line a lot more now from the right side.tons of football left to play, but after the workload he had last season, he's already on pace to break 370 carries and it is obvious his legs look dead in a lot of cases. Fisher seems determined to run him until the wheels fall off. You can't do that with a speed back, but that's just my opinion.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

He's had 2 sub par games against the Steelers and the Broncos who are 2 pretty sturdy run defenses.. The other 2 games, vs Raiders and Giants were fantastic production...

He's doing fine...