**Wildcard MNF - Vikings at Rams** (+1.5, 47) 8:15 on ABC (2 Viewers)

[mr roboto]

obvious pass sorry guys

So anybody who’s going down can just flip it like that? He clearly wasn’t targeting anybody. He was clearly doing that to try to not take the sack.

 

[ChiefD]

Matthew Mahomes got away with one there.

 

[Zow]

OK, that is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen

People around me are so confused. They only showed like one replay.

Was that legit?? Whole stadium seemed collectively confused.

 

[irish eyes]

At worse how is that not grounding

Exactly

 

[Snotbubbles]

At worse how is that not grounding

Nacua was like 2 steps from the ball.

 

[Todem]

So basically there never will be consequence for being able to do that.

Replay can’t be used to determine intentional grounding because that is exactly what that was.

The NFL is such a **** show. Replay is a joke too.

Has destroyed this game…..

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Big defensive stand there.

 

[urbanhack]

obvious pass sorry guys

Vikes fan and i agree. He flicked it.

 

[Insein]

QBs should now do that anytime they are about to get sacked. Perverse incentive.

Until you get a ref that thinks it's a fumble. This is not a court where precedent matters. It's basically whatever that individual ref feels like.

 

[popeye]

obvious pass sorry guys

if Anthony Richardson was throwing it sure, but not Stafford

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Insult to injury - it’s not even a sack.

I coulda lived with them saying he was in the grasp. But incomplete is just trash officiating.

for a football guy this is a bad take, stafford obviously flicked it forward on purpose so it’s no different than a shuffle pass which by rule is not a fumble when not caught

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

At worse how is that not grounding

Half the offense was right there.

 

[TheAristocrat]

So if you are looking at your nuts and casually flip the ball towards nothing, that's a pass. Cool.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

I'll give that it was a pass. But it was 100% grounding. No attempt to complete the pass.

 

[dutch]

Forward pass with Nacua in the area, no grounding. Good play by Stafford.

 

[mr roboto]

OK, that is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen

People around me are so confused. They only showed like one replay.

Was that legit?? Whole stadium seemed collectively confused.

He did kind of flip it with his hand towards one of the Rams receivers that was in the backfield. Kind of like a backhanded toss, but it was clear. He wasn’t trying to target anybody I don’t even think he could’ve seen that somebody was over there at very worst. It should’ve been intentional grounding.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Insult to injury - it’s not even a sack.

I coulda lived with them saying he was in the grasp. But incomplete is just trash officiating.

for a football guy this is a bad take, stafford obviously flicked it forward on purpose so it’s no different than a shuffle pass which by rule is not a fumble when not caught

I like to think my bad takes are equal whether they’re at FBG or if I’m yelling at my television, thank you.

 

[BeTheMatch]

OK, that is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen

People around me are so confused. They only showed like one replay.

Was that legit?? Whole stadium seemed collectively confused.

It was a pass. No grounding either because Puka was in area

 

[dickey moe]

QBs should now do that anytime they are about to get sacked. Perverse incentive.

Until you get a ref that thinks it's a fumble. This is not a court where precedent matters. It's basically whatever that individual ref feels like.

And that's the problem.

 

[Wingnut]

He flicked it to avoid the sack IMO, he didn't know which was way up at that moment.

 

[belljr]

obvious pass sorry guys

Vikes fan and i agree. He flicked it.

Oh he definitely randomly threw the ball

 

[dutch]

I'll give that it was a pass. But it was 100% grounding. No attempt to complete the pass.

The ball landed right in front of Nacua so no grounding.

 

[Zow]

Omg that happened right in front of me. Totally looked like a fumble.

What number are you?

1….


…. In hearts.

(I’m right on the 20 yard line up a bit. Had a clear view of it).

 

[Mitchie]

At worse how is that not grounding

the answer is there was a receiver in the area, sometimes guys like Stafford and Mahomes and others will complete throws like that. Now in this case there was no chance but can't have the rule be overly subjective.

 

[The Gator]

obvious pass sorry guys

Vikes fan

allegedly

 

[The_Man]

Let’s see if Darnold will keep taking the checkdowns. That’s what got the offense going. I know he likes to go deeper but he should keep taking the free stuff underneath until they stop it

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'll give that it was a pass. But it was 100% grounding. No attempt to complete the pass.

I’m with this take

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Insult to injury - it’s not even a sack.

I coulda lived with them saying he was in the grasp. But incomplete is just trash officiating.

for a football guy this is a bad take, stafford obviously flicked it forward on purpose so it’s no different than a shuffle pass which by rule is not a fumble when not caught

I like to think my bad takes are equal whether they’re at FBG or if I’m yelling at my television, thank you.

i just spit out my drink reading that

 

[dkp993]

I'll give that it was a pass. But it was 100% grounding. No attempt to complete the pass.

Only in the same way as when a QB throws at an RB’s feet on a broken play. Stafford clearly was throwing that toward Pukas feet.

 

[mr roboto]

obvious pass sorry guys

Vikes fan and i agree. He flicked it.

Sure, but it’s really hard to argue that he knew somebody was in the vicinity with his head having a 250 pounder on top of it.

 

[Football Jones]

It was a pass plain and simple (non-negotiable). You can throw the ball on the way down. The ref just missed it.

That said, we can argue whether it was grounding (regardless of whether it can technically be called), but it landed pretty close to Puka.

 

[skol asylum]

I'm sorry but they need to revisit the rules on that "forward pass". You really shouldn't be able to roll the ball like a bowling ball forward with no shot of a completion literally 2 feet in front of you and let it be considered a pass.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

From the NFL rule book

INTENTIONAL GROUNDING

It is a foul for intentional grounding if a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage because of pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion. A realistic chance of completion is defined as a pass that is thrown in the direction of and lands in the vicinity of an originally eligible receiver.

Sorry but that "pass" does not fit that definition.

Edit: Okay maybe it does. But that rule needs some work.

 

[Wingnut]

Oof. Big loss on that one

 

[belljr]

Omg that happened right in front of me. Totally looked like a fumble.

What number are you?

1….


…. In hearts.

(I’m right on the 20 yard line up a bit. Had a clear view of it).

Obviously not if you're asking us what happened

 

[The Gator]

Insult to injury - it’s not even a sack.

I coulda lived with them saying he was in the grasp. But incomplete is just trash officiating.

for a football guy this is a bad take, stafford obviously flicked it forward on purpose so it’s no different than a shuffle pass which by rule is not a fumble when not caught

I like to think my bad takes are equal whether they’re at FBG or if I’m yelling at my television, thank you.

i just spit out my drink reading that

Spat

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Jones looking good.

Might take some pressure off of Sam Elliott.

ETA - or maybe not.

 

[Todem]

So if you are looking at your nuts and casually flip the ball towards nothing, that's a pass. Cool.

Yeah the league has lost it’s way…..it really has.

All going to ****.

 

[skol asylum]

Same old terrible pass protection that has plagued MN for years. That was a bad throw by Darnold.

 

[mr roboto]

Darnold is not reading the defense well. He’s outmatched with a bad Oline

 

[Godsbrother]

Hated the call but understand it.

 

[Wingnut]

Free first down

 

[Cowboysfan8]

There’s a break

 

[mr roboto]

OK, that’s a make up call

 

[BeTheMatch]

Plant leg. Absolutely the right call.

 

[The Frankman]

uhhh how is that Roughing the Kicker?

He got hip-tossed into him.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Well that’s huge.

 

[belljr]

Looked like 35 was thrown into punter

 

[The_Man]

Darnold seeing ghosts

 

[skol asylum]

Wright with the play of the game for MN so far.