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Will a female ever play a down in the NFL? (1 Viewer)
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Absolutely. I've said for a long time there will be a woman placekicker at some point not too far in the future.
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ExaltedOne
Footballguy
I dunno, those amish chicks are pretty buff. If they spent half their time practicing football instead of doing all that farming crap they could be pretty good.
NFL = Non-Female League 
I also find it hard to believe people can easily say placekicker.
It is more likely you would see a women assistant coach before a player.
I am suprised no one has said they would like to see a women play center
Women is football would bring the sport down to a joke.
I also find it hard to believe people can easily say placekicker.
It is more likely you would see a women assistant coach before a player.
I am suprised no one has said they would like to see a women play center
Women is football would bring the sport down to a joke.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
I really think some of you guys don't get out enough. There are women out there that can kick you rear two times. I use to bounce at a night club with a girl that was 6'3" and 240 and other than the obviously, little of that was fat. Of course she wasn't NFL ready, but it's going to happen.
No way, dont see it happening. Maybe some day, in some other minor football league but never in the NFL or whatever top tier football organization is at the helm.
It's just physically and socially impossible at this time and for the foreseeable future. The sport is really physically demanding and I just cant see it happening, there arent that many women sports that translate a sport to be less physical that are as successful as their men's counterpart. We live in a patriarchal society.
Also, many of you keep suggesting that you know women who are of size BUT arent of athletic nature or who have quasi atheltics but not the size. Those are big buts. There are tons of guys that are anywhere between 5'10-6'4 and 180-260 lbs but they arent playing in the NFL.
It's just physically and socially impossible at this time and for the foreseeable future. The sport is really physically demanding and I just cant see it happening, there arent that many women sports that translate a sport to be less physical that are as successful as their men's counterpart. We live in a patriarchal society.
Also, many of you keep suggesting that you know women who are of size BUT arent of athletic nature or who have quasi atheltics but not the size. Those are big buts. There are tons of guys that are anywhere between 5'10-6'4 and 180-260 lbs but they arent playing in the NFL.
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
Does Ryan Leaf count?
Definitely true. I wouldn't be completely shocked if there's a woman on some NFL team's coaching staff in my lifetime.
radballs
Footballguy
I wouldn't be surprised if Amy Trask moved up even higher in the Raiders organization even though she has already done very well up to this point. Granted this isn't a position directly involved on the field per se. However, contrary to popular opinion, Al Davis rewards people and staff generally based upon their accomplishments and input regardless of sex or race.
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I don't think the question is in their athletic abilty as much as it is about desire. I don't think you have too many girls with a great desire to play in the NFL. If you are a top female athlete you are more likely to gravitate towards Track and Field or Volley Ball. It will never happen until you see many woman trying to play High School Ball and then College so far you have seen one woman kicker and she was forced on her Coach.
JAA
Footballguy
Excellent points about seeing someone be a part of the NFL team, whether or not as a player or coach.
If there was a female, who could perform kickoffs within respectable limits of the men, dont you think a Dan Snyder type would jump all over the possibility of getting her out there any chance he got? She doesnt need to be great, prolly simply average enough to make it worth his wild.
If there was a female, who could perform kickoffs within respectable limits of the men, dont you think a Dan Snyder type would jump all over the possibility of getting her out there any chance he got? She doesnt need to be great, prolly simply average enough to make it worth his wild.
Again, I think you (a bunch of you) are missing the point. I am not saying "compete", or using the word "equal". I simply stated a female to play a down in the NFL. Shoot, they had a amputee play at the college level. Are you trying to tell me they could find anyone better? What about the autisitic team manager who played the last 4 minutes of the basketball game? What about the mentally handicapped kid who scored a touchdown in the highschool football game?
This is not a shot at any of the players, simply that you cannot overlook the "awe" factor when answering this question.
If we ignore potential publicity stunts and focus on whether a woman will ever be able to "earn" a spot on a professional NFL football field, during game time that matters (not a "Rudy" scenario) , the answer is NO, never.
This is not a shot at any of the players, simply that you cannot overlook the "awe" factor when answering this question.
If we ignore potential publicity stunts and focus on whether a woman will ever be able to "earn" a spot on a professional NFL football field, during game time that matters (not a "Rudy" scenario) , the answer is NO, never.
Sure. And if there was a female who could play tight end or outside linebacker nearly as well as men, she'd get a chance, too.The problem isn't opportunity.
I voted yes because of the open-ended timeframe. It might not be in the next 20 years, but eventually some woman will probably be good enough as a kicker.
What about the fastest women in the world (olympians) as a downfield WR or kick returner or even third down back? I mean they probably run fast 40's right? How fast do they run??? I'm sure the big question would be what happens after they get hit hard and overall durability. I don't know, but I'd imagine it's possible.
What about the fastest women in the world (olympians) as a downfield WR or kick returner or even third down back? I mean they probably run fast 40's right? How fast do they run??? I'm sure the big question would be what happens after they get hit hard and overall durability. I don't know, but I'd imagine it's possible.
I don't think they run fast 40s. Women are generally about 0.9 seconds slower in the 100m. I don't know how that translates in to 40-yard times, but it's probably at least a couple tenths of a second slower. So the fastest woman maybe runs a 4.6? Not a deep threat.
CalBear
Footballguy
The women's world record 100-meter dash (held by Florence Griffith Juicer) is a wind-aided 10.49 seconds, which translates to a 40-meter time of about 4.4. That's fast enough to be a WR, but it's not fast enough to be distinguished as a WR. It's also by far the fastest she's ever run; her second best time was 10.61. And that's the fastest woman in the world, and a record that has stood for almost 20 years. Most women these days run in the low 11s and a few in the high 10s. In the Athens Olympics the winner finished in 10.93, which is more like a 4.6 equivalent.It does not seem plausible to me that Joyner could have been an NFL WR, even though there are NFL WRs who are not faster than her. A slow NFL WR has to be large and physical, and also will have had years of training in NCAA football. A female sprinter, significantly slower than male track athlete WRs, would not be able to make it as a track athlete-style WR.
buffburgo
Footballguy
It's very hard to say NEVER to many things. I think this is one of them. I voted yes, as I think there is a very likely chance a woman will play professional, NFL, football. And I think there is a good chance to see this in my lifetime (I'm 31). I'm sure a similar mindset was present in the early days of Major League Baseball (and sports as a whole for that matter), that blacks would never play in the same league as whites. I do not want to start a racial discussion, just to bring the point that NEVER is an awfully strong word. It only takes 1 for it to happen.
For a few seasons, there was a woman playing hockey, one of the most physically demanding sports. Granted she was a goalie, and did not get involved with checking and the like, but you don't think she took some shots over her career?
Kicker / punter is definitely the logical choice for a woman to break into the NFL ranks. However, think of this...little Doug Flutie (5ft nothing, 100 and nothing) lasted quite a while in the NFL. I would think there has got to be a woman out there as athletic and tough as Doug. This is not to take anyting away from FLutie, just to say that you don't need to be 6'-4", 280lbs to play. What about Koy Detmer? Another little guy playing a tough position. And if "direction punting" ever starts to get popular again, you might not need a punter that can send the ball 60 yards...maybe you only want 35yds and out of bounds on the bounce. You wouln't need the strongest leg in the world to do that, just an accurate one, and I don't think accuracy is contingent on sex.
As far as I know, there are no rules that state a woman can not play in the NFL. If there is, please correct me. But until there is something on the books prohibiting it, I look forward to the day that a woman tries out and makes a team.
For a few seasons, there was a woman playing hockey, one of the most physically demanding sports. Granted she was a goalie, and did not get involved with checking and the like, but you don't think she took some shots over her career?
Kicker / punter is definitely the logical choice for a woman to break into the NFL ranks. However, think of this...little Doug Flutie (5ft nothing, 100 and nothing) lasted quite a while in the NFL. I would think there has got to be a woman out there as athletic and tough as Doug. This is not to take anyting away from FLutie, just to say that you don't need to be 6'-4", 280lbs to play. What about Koy Detmer? Another little guy playing a tough position. And if "direction punting" ever starts to get popular again, you might not need a punter that can send the ball 60 yards...maybe you only want 35yds and out of bounds on the bounce. You wouln't need the strongest leg in the world to do that, just an accurate one, and I don't think accuracy is contingent on sex.
As far as I know, there are no rules that state a woman can not play in the NFL. If there is, please correct me. But until there is something on the books prohibiting it, I look forward to the day that a woman tries out and makes a team.
Correct.Edit: If a woman makes it as a kicker, it would be strictly as a placekicker who does not also handle kickoff duties. Like Nate Kaeding.
Edit again: If roster sizes ever expand to the point where there's a dedicated on-side kick specialist, a woman would have a decent chance.
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Agreed -- but we're not really talking about never. We're just talking about however long the NFL will last, which would be what, a few thousand years at most?It is debatable whether evolutionary trends will substantially reduce sexual dimorphism in humans. But if it happens, it will be over the course of 50 thousand years or so. That's the kind of timescale evolution takes. By then, I strongly doubt that the NFL will still exist.
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Flutie could throw the ball 60+ yards. No woman can come close to that.
videoguy505
Footballguy
Exactly the point. We're not talking "has a career in the NFL", we're asking if ever a woman will be on the field for 1 down of play. I think it's possible a woman might come on and kick an XP or FG sometime, someday, since Kickers don't need the physical bulk or upper body strength, and kickers are protected from being hit.
David Dodds
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I could see this scenario:
1. NFL Rosters get bigger and bigger as more specialist positions are created.
2. Teams begin to carry at least two kickers.
3. A woman kicker secures the role of short FGs and onside kicks
1. NFL Rosters get bigger and bigger as more specialist positions are created.
2. Teams begin to carry at least two kickers.
3. A woman kicker secures the role of short FGs and onside kicks
Killer Kobras
Footballguy
A kicker is quite possible. Our local high school has a female kicker and was one of the best in the conference.She was a soccer player and was brought in after the season started because none ofthe guys could kick worth crap. They have girls playing against boys in the pee wee league
Chyna from the WWF or one of those American Gladiators could lay some of the current wide receivers flat on their ###. Of course there may be just a hint of steroids there.lol The problem is I dont think you will see too many females having the desire to start playing football at an early age. How many teenage girls do you think will want to hit the weight room to get the size and strength in order to play even in high school let alone in college and pros.
But I could definitely see a possibility at kicker so I vote yes.
Chyna from the WWF or one of those American Gladiators could lay some of the current wide receivers flat on their ###. Of course there may be just a hint of steroids there.lol The problem is I dont think you will see too many females having the desire to start playing football at an early age. How many teenage girls do you think will want to hit the weight room to get the size and strength in order to play even in high school let alone in college and pros.
But I could definitely see a possibility at kicker so I vote yes.
Alright, you've persuaded me to look at the picture again. Not that it takes a lot of persuading.Edit: Oh, another point that needs to be made, too...Please look at the picture again. What I saw certainly wasn't "undersized".
A lot of it depends on your definition of "woman". If a man goes in for gender reassignment surgery, I don't think it would be any stretch at all to say that she is capable of making an NFL roster. So if you count transgendereds, then there's no doubt in my mind that a woman will be capable of making an NFL roster at some point.
There's already a big deal in Golf because a transexual golfer has appeared in a LPGA tourney.
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