Will Peyton Break the TD record? (1 Viewer)

[Billy Bats]

After the win, the usually mild-mannered Manning had some words for anyone who thinks he can't play in cold weather, "Whoever wrote that narrative can shove that where the sun don't shine," Manning told KOA-AM in Denver.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

BTW, why was he wearing a helmet in that pic?

http://i.imgur.com/rY5IIGS.png

not so much a question of why as it is how

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Most yards in sub 20 degree weather the past 5 years, and first to throw 4 tds in sub 20 degree weather in past 9 years.

I think peyton was trying to prove a point.

.you think he was running up the score?

 

[need2know]

I don't think it's a question of whether he will will break it, it's a question of what the new record will be

 

[ffldrew]

BTW, why was he wearing a helmet in that pic?

http://i.imgur.com/rY5IIGS.png

not so much a question of why as it is how

They said he was listening to Case's calls in the practice going on outside through the helmet receiver - I guess to understand what the play call sequences might be?

 

[Ghost Rider]

A lot of it might come down to the Baltimore/NE game in Week 16. If the Patriots lose that game, and the Broncos clinch home field, Peyton likely plays on a few drives in Week 17. And that game against Houston in Week 16 won't be a picnic either, as the Texans D is still really good, and they are likely to be "up" for that game, just like they were for the Patriots game last week.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

A lot of it might come down to the Baltimore/NE game in Week 16. If the Patriots lose that game, and the Broncos clinch home field, Peyton likely plays on a few drives in Week 17. And that game against Houston in Week 16 won't be a picnic either, as the Texans D is still really good, and they are likely to be "up" for that game, just like they were for the Patriots game last week.

the game where they let up 450 yds and 34 pts?

 

[Ghost Rider]

A lot of it might come down to the Baltimore/NE game in Week 16. If the Patriots lose that game, and the Broncos clinch home field, Peyton likely plays on a few drives in Week 17. And that game against Houston in Week 16 won't be a picnic either, as the Texans D is still really good, and they are likely to be "up" for that game, just like they were for the Patriots game last week.

the game where they let up 450 yds and 34 pts?

Yep, that game. The 2-9 Texans gave the 8-3 Patriots everything they could handle for 60 minutes. And then that same Texans looked pitiful four days later against the Jags. If you don't think the Texans weren't "up" for that Patriots game, then you didn't watch the game. It is actually a compliment to the Patriots that they have been so good for so long that they often get teams' A games. Hell, look at Cleveland today: they lost to the Jags at home last week, yet were a recovered onside kick away from winning at NE today.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

A lot of it might come down to the Baltimore/NE game in Week 16. If the Patriots lose that game, and the Broncos clinch home field, Peyton likely plays on a few drives in Week 17. And that game against Houston in Week 16 won't be a picnic either, as the Texans D is still really good, and they are likely to be "up" for that game, just like they were for the Patriots game last week.

the game where they let up 450 yds and 34 pts?

Yep, that game. The 2-9 Texans gave the 8-3 Patriots everything they could handle for 60 minutes. And then that same Texans looked pitiful four days later against the Jags. If you don't think the Texans weren't "up" for that Patriots game, then you didn't watch the game. It is actually a compliment to the Patriots that they have been so good for so long that they often get teams' A games. Hell, look at Cleveland today: they lost to the Jags at home last week, yet were a recovered onside kick away from winning at NE today.

I don't know what you've got against the jags -- hottest team in the afc

 

[need2know]

A lot of it might come down to the Baltimore/NE game in Week 16. If the Patriots lose that game, and the Broncos clinch home field, Peyton likely plays on a few drives in Week 17. And that game against Houston in Week 16 won't be a picnic either, as the Texans D is still really good, and they are likely to be "up" for that game, just like they were for the Patriots game last week.

the game where they let up 450 yds and 34 pts?

Yep, that game. The 2-9 Texans gave the 8-3 Patriots everything they could handle for 60 minutes. And then that same Texans looked pitiful four days later against the Jags. If you don't think the Texans weren't "up" for that Patriots game, then you didn't watch the game. It is actually a compliment to the Patriots that they have been so good for so long that they often get teams' A games. Hell, look at Cleveland today: they lost to the Jags at home last week, yet were a recovered onside kick away from winning at NE today.

I don't think you can compare denvers offense to new englands. Two totally different animals. Also cant under estimate peyton and those wrs in a dome. Hou

Is going to get lit up like everybody else. Peyton is actually throwing it more since the Pats loss...

 

[TheFanatic]

After the win, the usually mild-mannered Manning had some words for anyone who thinks he can't play in cold weather, "Whoever wrote that narrative can shove that where the sun don't shine," Manning told KOA-AM in Denver.

This is the reason for the pass attack yesterday. He is not being a stat whore for the record as much as he was trying to shut some people up about throwing in the cold. The fact that happened to pad his TD total didn't hurt.

I'm starting to think this is Peyton's final year and he wants to leave with that record and hopefully a championship, but if he doesn't get the latter, he wants that TD record. And I doubt Brady ever has another Randy Moss to throw to so I don't think he sniffs 50 again...

 

[FUBAR]

It's not a lock, but it's a safe bet. He's already #8.

Two closer questions -

1. Does Drew Brees finish top 5 all-time? 5 games left, needs 17.

2. Peyton choose over/under at 55.

I'll bite

1. YES

2. Over, unless he sits over a half in week 17

I'll take the under on both.

1. Brees now needs 12, with 3 games left. Basically he needs to keep doing what he did against the statistical top defense in the league. Will he rest though?

2. Peyton needs 10 more in 3 games. He may take half of week 17 off. He'll be close to 55.

 

[FUBAR]

I'm starting to think this is Peyton's final year...

This gets repeated in various outlets, but what is the speculation based on?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

It's not a lock, but it's a safe bet. He's already #8.

Two closer questions -

1. Does Drew Brees finish top 5 all-time? 5 games left, needs 17.

2. Peyton choose over/under at 55.

I'll bite

1. YES

2. Over, unless he sits over a half in week 17

I'll take the under on both.

1. Brees now needs 12, with 3 games left. Basically he needs to keep doing what he did against the statistical top defense in the league. Will he rest though?

2. Peyton needs 10 more in 3 games. He may take half of week 17 off. He'll be close to 55.

If NE doesnt lose again, Denver needs to win out to secure home field, Peyton wont be resting unless NE loses a game

 

[duaneok66]

Depends on what happens in the postseason. I think he returns if the Broncos fall short of a title.

 

[TheFanatic]

I'm starting to think this is Peyton's final year...

This gets repeated in various outlets, but what is the speculation based on?

The last time I heard this, it was something about not being able to take the physical punishment anymore. If he wins the SB, I'm thinking he is done.

 

[Popinski]

I didn't realize how close Peyton is to Favre's career record. Only 27 behind now, in about 4 seasons worth of fewer games.

 

[cstu]

I'm starting to think this is Peyton's final year...

This gets repeated in various outlets, but what is the speculation based on?

The last time I heard this, it was something about not being able to take the physical punishment anymore. If he wins the SB, I'm thinking he is done.

Not too long ago he mentioned that if he did retire it would be due to the weekly grind of meetings and practices.

 

[FUBAR]

I didn't realize how close Peyton is to Favre's career record. Only 27 behind now, in about 4 seasons worth of fewer games.

He's a stat whore, so no chance he retires until he breaks that record.

 

[Acrobat7]

I didn't realize how close Peyton is to Favre's career record. Only 27 behind now, in about 4 seasons worth of fewer games.

He's a stat whore, so no chance he retires until he breaks that record.

Well played.

 

[Ghost Rider]

If the Broncos don't win the Super Bowl, no way does he retire.

If the Broncos do win the Super Bowl, I still don't think he retires. Why retire when you still have that offensive talent to work with? Plus, Manning is well aware of his place in history, and he'll want to not only pass Favre's record, but keep playing long enough to put many of his records out of reach, especially for Brady. He ain't about to retire and let Brady play 2-3 more years and close the gap on their numbers.

 

[Adam Harstad]

It's not a lock, but it's a safe bet. He's already #8.

Two closer questions -

1. Does Drew Brees finish top 5 all-time? 5 games left, needs 17.

2. Peyton choose over/under at 55.

I'll bite

1. YES

2. Over, unless he sits over a half in week 17

I'll take the under on both.

1. Brees now needs 12, with 3 games left. Basically he needs to keep doing what he did against the statistical top defense in the league. Will he rest though?

2. Peyton needs 10 more in 3 games. He may take half of week 17 off. He'll be close to 55.

1. Only once in Drew Brees' career has he scored 12 TDs in three consecutive regular-season games (weeks 15, 16, and 17 of 2011, when he got 14). Including playoffs brings that number up to three times, though they all overlapped over a 5-game stretch (15-17 in 2011, 16-P1 in 2011, 17-P2 in 2011). Counting streaks that spanned multiple seasons adds one more to the ledger (week 17 of 2008 + weeks 1-2 of 2009). So I'm going to stick with my position that it's a pretty big long-shot at this point.

2. Peyton needs 10 in 3 games for a push, but he needs 11 in 3 games for an "over". Still a tough slog, although more achievable than Brees' task. Peyton actually has four separate, mostly non-overlapping streaks this season featuring 11 TDs in 3 games (weeks 1-3, 3-5, 7-9, and 11-13, with that 3-touchdown performance in week 3 being the only one that shows up in multiple streaks).

His odds are much higher today than they were a week ago (and even higher still than they were two weeks ago), that's for sure. Suddenly, the goal has gone from "extremely unlikely" to "hard, but realistically achievable".

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

I've only seen the highlights of Denver's last two games but giving the passing numbers Peyton put up in going to guess KC and Tenn didn't copy what the Pats did to Denver by baiting them to run. Is this correct?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I've only seen the highlights of Denver's last two games but giving the passing numbers Peyton put up in going to guess KC and Tenn didn't copy what the Pats did to Denver by baiting them to run. Is this correct?

I think the baiting them to run thing is overblown.

The game was 24 to 0 in blink of an eye. peyton threw when he had too, including the late 4th quarter drive/td to demaryious.

the running game was working and they had a lead, why not run it some more.

Thing with SD this week is that I can see Peyton getting out in front and not needing to throw.

then again I thought the same thing vs Tennesse and they fell behind 21-10.

 

[Adam Harstad]

I've only seen the highlights of Denver's last two games but giving the passing numbers Peyton put up in going to guess KC and Tenn didn't copy what the Pats did to Denver by baiting them to run. Is this correct?

I've only seen the highlights of Denver's last two games but giving the passing numbers Peyton put up in going to guess KC and Tenn didn't copy what the Pats did to Denver by baiting them to run. Is this correct?

I think the baiting them to run thing is overblown.

The game was 24 to 0 in blink of an eye. peyton threw when he had too, including the late 4th quarter drive/td to demaryious.

the running game was working and they had a lead, why not run it some more.

Thing with SD this week is that I can see Peyton getting out in front and not needing to throw.

then again I thought the same thing vs Tennesse and they fell behind 21-10.

Yeah, New England didn't "bait Denver" into running, they got destroyed by Denver's running game. It's not like it was part of their game plan to give up 280 rushing yards and have to rely on a miracle muffed punt in overtime to get the win at home. I'm sure that's not how they drew it up, defensively.

New England played a lot of nickel against Denver, but that's no different than what any team has done at any time since Manning joined them in 2012. Denver led the league in number of running plays against nickel defenses last year. They'll probably finish 1st or 2nd again this year (although I think Philly will probably take that title). Tennessee and Kansas City both ran a lot of nickel against Denver, just like New England did. Manning just ignored it and passed against a defense designed to stop the pass, because that's what he's been doing all season when the winds are under 20 miles per hour.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

What I think is interesting about the record is that his success is in some ways actually adding pressure to his legacy.

If Manning wins a Superbowl this year, he will be regarded by many as the best QB to ever play the game, having "multiple" Superbowls, and with two different teams. But with all of the regular season success, if he (really they, but he for the purposes of this discussion), fails to win a Superbowl, he is likely to have his "choker" status cemented on him, and could really drop him down in the perceived historical rankings by many.

I don't really think that line of thinking is terribly accurate (it's a team game after-all), but it's out there. This post-season will determine his legacy to a large degree I think. Only way that changes is if he happens to get back and win next year.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Here are the cold hard facts from his 2004 season. You tell me if he wasn't padding his stats....

Fact: The Colts had a grossly unbalanced scoring offense

Three teams in 2004 scored 50-plus offensive touchdowns: Indianapolis (59), Kansas City (56) and San Diego (50).

• Kansas City had 26 passing TDs and 30 rushing TDs

• San Diego had 27 passing TDs and 23 rushing TDs

• Indianapolis had 49 passing TDs and just 10 rushing TDs

That ratio is ridiculous, especially for a team that had the AFC's leading rusher, Edgerrin James, in the backfield. James had 333 carries for 1,550 yards this year and only has 9 rushing TDs. That is a TD for every 37.0 carries.

The accumulated totals for EVERY OTHER running back in the NFL that year were 11,609 carries and 345 touchdowns. That is a ratio of one TD every 33.6 carries. Think Edge was better than the league average?

During one six-game stretch - Weeks 7-12 - Manning had 27 touchdown passes. Over that same stretch, the Colts rushed for just one touchdown. From Week 7 to Week 12, James carried the ball 120 times for 639 yards and had just one rushing TD to show for it. What a joke.

Serious question here, but were you playing fantasy football in 2004? The reason I ask is because Edge's failures at the goaline that season were a major point of discussion in fantasy circles, well before Peyton started approaching the TD record. I remember writing very large articles about it.

Yes, Priest Holmes had twice as many rush TDs from inside the 5 yard line as Edge, but he actually did it on fewer attempts. Edge was 5th in the NFL in rushes from inside the 5 yard line and 95th in conversion percentage.

I do believe that Peyton's record breaking season had a lot to do with Edge's failures inside the 5. They stopped giving him the ball inside the 5 because they were scoring at a MUCH higher rate when they passed there, not because they wanted stats. They converted for a touchdown on 24% of their rushes inside the 5 while they scored on 67% of their passes inside the 5.

I actually argued as much the next offseason, saying that Peyton was overrated as a fantasy player going into 2005 because his TD numbers would go way down if the Colts figured out a way to be more successful running inside the 5. They did.

The following week, playing a beat up Chicago team that had very little chance to score 20-plus points, Manning was still throwing midway through the third quarter with a more-than-comfortable 24-point lead.

The next week, versus Detroit, Manning reached a new low. Late in the third quarter, leading the Lions 34-9, Manning was still throwing the ball. With just over 2 minutes to go in the third, Manning hit Marvin Harrison from 5 yards for his sixth TD of the game. Manning didn't play in the fourth quarter, apparently feeling the 32-point, 41-9 lead would be sufficient.

If you start paying closer attention to this in games I think you'll see how common it is. Only the most uber-conservative teams stop passing with a 3 score lead in the 3rd quarter. Just yesterday the Cardinals were throwing all over the place with a 23-3 lead in the waning minutes of the 3rd quarter. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Carson Palmers is anywhere near the TD record.

Of course Peyton is well aware of the record and of course he wants it. What I think is crazy is to think that he would in any way harm his chances of winning the Super Bowl to try and get it. Whether that be passing when he thinks a run is more likely to produce a score or whether that is staying in and taking possible injury hits when he thinks there is a 0% chance of the other team catching up. Even if he was some super selfish guy, a Super Bowl win this year would do far more to cement his legacy than the Pass TD record would, and if he has to travel to New England in the playoffs the chances of getting that Super Bowl win get much slimmer. He's not going to risk it.

 

[Adam Harstad]

Here are the cold hard facts from his 2004 season. You tell me if he wasn't padding his stats....

Fact: The Colts had a grossly unbalanced scoring offense

Three teams in 2004 scored 50-plus offensive touchdowns: Indianapolis (59), Kansas City (56) and San Diego (50).

• Kansas City had 26 passing TDs and 30 rushing TDs

• San Diego had 27 passing TDs and 23 rushing TDs

• Indianapolis had 49 passing TDs and just 10 rushing TDs

That ratio is ridiculous, especially for a team that had the AFC's leading rusher, Edgerrin James, in the backfield. James had 333 carries for 1,550 yards this year and only has 9 rushing TDs. That is a TD for every 37.0 carries.

The accumulated totals for EVERY OTHER running back in the NFL that year were 11,609 carries and 345 touchdowns. That is a ratio of one TD every 33.6 carries. Think Edge was better than the league average?

During one six-game stretch - Weeks 7-12 - Manning had 27 touchdown passes. Over that same stretch, the Colts rushed for just one touchdown. From Week 7 to Week 12, James carried the ball 120 times for 639 yards and had just one rushing TD to show for it. What a joke.

Serious question here, but were you playing fantasy football in 2004? The reason I ask is because Edge's failures at the goaline that season were a major point of discussion in fantasy circles, well before Peyton started approaching the TD record. I remember writing very large articles about it.

Yes, Priest Holmes had twice as many rush TDs from inside the 5 yard line as Edge, but he actually did it on fewer attempts. Edge was 5th in the NFL in rushes from inside the 5 yard line and 95th in conversion percentage.

I do believe that Peyton's record breaking season had a lot to do with Edge's failures inside the 5. They stopped giving him the ball inside the 5 because they were scoring at a MUCH higher rate when they passed there, not because they wanted stats. They converted for a touchdown on 24% of their rushes inside the 5 while they scored on 67% of their passes inside the 5.

I actually argued as much the next offseason, saying that Peyton was overrated as a fantasy player going into 2005 because his TD numbers would go way down if the Colts figured out a way to be more successful running inside the 5. They did.

Elaborating further on this, in 2004 Indy called 24 pass plays vs. 26 run plays inside the opposing team's 5 yard line. Those 24 passes yielded 16 TDs while the 26 rushes only yielded 7 TDs. That's not being a stat-whore, that's being insanely efficient with limited scoring opportunities. Like... insanely efficient. Converting 2/3s of pass attempts into TDs inside the 5-yard line is hard to even fathom. For comparison purposes, this year's Denver Broncos offensive juggernaut has converted just under 50% of their passes inside the 5 into TDs (15 out of 31). The 2007 New England Patriots converted right at 50% (16 out of 32).

If I had a QB who scored a TD on 67% of his pass attempts inside the 5, I wouldn't be calling runs more than 50% of the time at the goal line, that's for sure.

 

[need2know]

I've only seen the highlights of Denver's last two games but giving the passing numbers Peyton put up in going to guess KC and Tenn didn't copy what the Pats did to Denver by baiting them to run. Is this correct?

I've only seen the highlights of Denver's last two games but giving the passing numbers Peyton put up in going to guess KC and Tenn didn't copy what the Pats did to Denver by baiting them to run. Is this correct?

I think the baiting them to run thing is overblown.

The game was 24 to 0 in blink of an eye. peyton threw when he had too, including the late 4th quarter drive/td to demaryious.

the running game was working and they had a lead, why not run it some more.

Thing with SD this week is that I can see Peyton getting out in front and not needing to throw.

then again I thought the same thing vs Tennesse and they fell behind 21-10.

Yeah, New England didn't "bait Denver" into running, they got destroyed by Denver's running game. It's not like it was part of their game plan to give up 280 rushing yards and have to rely on a miracle muffed punt in overtime to get the win at home. I'm sure that's not how they drew it up, defensively.

New England played a lot of nickel against Denver, but that's no different than what any team has done at any time since Manning joined them in 2012. Denver led the league in number of running plays against nickel defenses last year. They'll probably finish 1st or 2nd again this year (although I think Philly will probably take that title). Tennessee and Kansas City both ran a lot of nickel against Denver, just like New England did. Manning just ignored it and passed against a defense designed to stop the pass, because that's what he's been doing all season when the winds are under 20 miles per hour.

So more of the same vs sd thurs? Weather should be favorable. Feels like manning is a great bet for 3 tds again

 

[duaneok66]

I think that some people forget that the main objective in the NFL is to score.

 

[cstu]

I think that some people forget that the main objective in the NFL is to score.

It appears so.

 

[FUBAR]

I think that some people forget that the main objective in the NFL is to score.

Someone should have told him

 

[Koya]

I've only seen the highlights of Denver's last two games but giving the passing numbers Peyton put up in going to guess KC and Tenn didn't copy what the Pats did to Denver by baiting them to run. Is this correct?

I've only seen the highlights of Denver's last two games but giving the passing numbers Peyton put up in going to guess KC and Tenn didn't copy what the Pats did to Denver by baiting them to run. Is this correct?

I think the baiting them to run thing is overblown.The game was 24 to 0 in blink of an eye. peyton threw when he had too, including the late 4th quarter drive/td to demaryious.

the running game was working and they had a lead, why not run it some more.

Thing with SD this week is that I can see Peyton getting out in front and not needing to throw.

then again I thought the same thing vs Tennesse and they fell behind 21-10.

Yeah, New England didn't "bait Denver" into running, they got destroyed by Denver's running game. It's not like it was part of their game plan to give up 280 rushing yards and have to rely on a miracle muffed punt in overtime to get the win at home. I'm sure that's not how they drew it up, defensively.

New England played a lot of nickel against Denver, but that's no different than what any team has done at any time since Manning joined them in 2012. Denver led the league in number of running plays against nickel defenses last year. They'll probably finish 1st or 2nd again this year (although I think Philly will probably take that title). Tennessee and Kansas City both ran a lot of nickel against Denver, just like New England did. Manning just ignored it and passed against a defense designed to stop the pass, because that's what he's been doing all season when the winds are under 20 miles per hour.

So more of the same vs sd thurs? Weather should be favorable. Feels like manning is a great bet for 3 tds again

Gonna be under 40 degrees. BENCH EVERYONE!

 

[Adam Harstad]

I've only seen the highlights of Denver's last two games but giving the passing numbers Peyton put up in going to guess KC and Tenn didn't copy what the Pats did to Denver by baiting them to run. Is this correct?

I've only seen the highlights of Denver's last two games but giving the passing numbers Peyton put up in going to guess KC and Tenn didn't copy what the Pats did to Denver by baiting them to run. Is this correct?

I think the baiting them to run thing is overblown.

The game was 24 to 0 in blink of an eye. peyton threw when he had too, including the late 4th quarter drive/td to demaryious.

the running game was working and they had a lead, why not run it some more.

Thing with SD this week is that I can see Peyton getting out in front and not needing to throw.

then again I thought the same thing vs Tennesse and they fell behind 21-10.

Yeah, New England didn't "bait Denver" into running, they got destroyed by Denver's running game. It's not like it was part of their game plan to give up 280 rushing yards and have to rely on a miracle muffed punt in overtime to get the win at home. I'm sure that's not how they drew it up, defensively.

New England played a lot of nickel against Denver, but that's no different than what any team has done at any time since Manning joined them in 2012. Denver led the league in number of running plays against nickel defenses last year. They'll probably finish 1st or 2nd again this year (although I think Philly will probably take that title). Tennessee and Kansas City both ran a lot of nickel against Denver, just like New England did. Manning just ignored it and passed against a defense designed to stop the pass, because that's what he's been doing all season when the winds are under 20 miles per hour.

So more of the same vs sd thurs? Weather should be favorable. Feels like manning is a great bet for 3 tds again

San Diego's defense is cringe-worthy, one of the worst in decades. They're terrible vs. the pass. They're terrible vs. the run. They made Alex Smith look like an All Pro.They have a great offense to keep the pressure on. I think Denver is going to move the ball all night long against the Chargers, and Manning will tear them up.

Honestly, I think there's a chance Manning ties the record on Thursday. Not a huge chance, but it wouldn't surprise me. Manning has topped 5 TDs eight times during his career (3.4% of his games played), including twice this season (15.4% of his games played). Let's call it a 10% chance that Manning gets 5 scores this week and puts the chase to bed early this year.

 

[Jewell]

This picture tells me that Peyton will get the record because Peyton means business...

https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1470232_10152124155791318_503347049_n.jpg

 

[ebsteelers]

hes gonna break bradys record this year and win the super bowl .. but monte ball is gonna be super bowl mvp.

then they will repeat next year and he will break favres record win the super bowl and super bowl mvp..

with elway and the owner saying... this ones for PEYTON!!!

then he can ride off into the sunset on his bronco drinking a colt 45.

ROLL CREDITS!!!

 

[need2know]

This picture tells me that Peyton will get the record because Peyton means business...

https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1470232_10152124155791318_503347049_n.jpg

Hes probably playing candycrush

 

[ghostguy123]

Always nice to see when people use their severe OCD for productive purposes.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I also have a feeling he ties the record tonight.

 

[ghostguy123]

Manning is losing this game on purpose so that he can justify padding his stats.

 

[Otis]

Chargers - 4

Chiefs - 1

Pats - 2

Chiefs - 5

Titans - 4

Chargers - 2

Texans - 2

Raiders - 2

Just needs 4 more against the Texans and Raiders to break it...

 

[donkshow]

Should get 4 next week.

 

[Koya]

I've only seen the highlights of Denver's last two games but giving the passing numbers Peyton put up in going to guess KC and Tenn didn't copy what the Pats did to Denver by baiting them to run. Is this correct?

I've only seen the highlights of Denver's last two games but giving the passing numbers Peyton put up in going to guess KC and Tenn didn't copy what the Pats did to Denver by baiting them to run. Is this correct?

I think the baiting them to run thing is overblown.The game was 24 to 0 in blink of an eye. peyton threw when he had too, including the late 4th quarter drive/td to demaryious.

the running game was working and they had a lead, why not run it some more.

Thing with SD this week is that I can see Peyton getting out in front and not needing to throw.

then again I thought the same thing vs Tennesse and they fell behind 21-10.

Yeah, New England didn't "bait Denver" into running, they got destroyed by Denver's running game. It's not like it was part of their game plan to give up 280 rushing yards and have to rely on a miracle muffed punt in overtime to get the win at home. I'm sure that's not how they drew it up, defensively.

New England played a lot of nickel against Denver, but that's no different than what any team has done at any time since Manning joined them in 2012. Denver led the league in number of running plays against nickel defenses last year. They'll probably finish 1st or 2nd again this year (although I think Philly will probably take that title). Tennessee and Kansas City both ran a lot of nickel against Denver, just like New England did. Manning just ignored it and passed against a defense designed to stop the pass, because that's what he's been doing all season when the winds are under 20 miles per hour.

So more of the same vs sd thurs? Weather should be favorable. Feels like manning is a great bet for 3 tds again

Gonna be under 40 degrees. BENCH EVERYONE!

Well, everyone but Reche's brother (or cousin or whatever).

 

[cstu]

San Diego's defense is cringe-worthy, one of the worst in decades. They're terrible vs. the pass. They're terrible vs. the run. They made Alex Smith look like an All Pro.They have a great offense to keep the pressure on. I think Denver is going to move the ball all night long against the Chargers, and Manning will tear them up.

Honestly, I think there's a chance Manning ties the record on Thursday. Not a huge chance, but it wouldn't surprise me. Manning has topped 5 TDs eight times during his career (3.4% of his games played), including twice this season (15.4% of his games played). Let's call it a 10% chance that Manning gets 5 scores this week and puts the chase to bed early this year.

The Chargers have shut down both Manning brothers in back to back weeks (and yes, I do consider only giving up 289/2 to Peyton shutting him down).

 

[cstu]

Chargers - 4

Chiefs - 1

Pats - 2

Chiefs - 5

Titans - 4

Chargers - 2

Texans - 2

Raiders - 2

Just needs 4 more against the Texans and Raiders to break it...

Outside of injury there's almost no way he fails to break it.

 

[Bamac]

Yeah, that was a bit uncalled for on my part and I'd retract it if I could. It seemed to me at the time that Brady cared less about records. After all, this is the guy who could have had 4 opportunities to throw a TD pass from the 1 and keep his streak alive late in the 4th quarter a couple months ago, but instead handed off for a TD and saw his consecutive passing record snapped one short of Brees.

Wrong again, Merlin. Brady's streak came to an end in a game they lost 13-6 to the Bengals. A game where the Patriots failed to score a touchdown in any fashion. So, how did Brady selflessly allow his streak to die by handing off for a touchdown in a game where the Patriots didn't score a touchdown?

Time to call off the dogs, I think. Dude acknowledged that Brady is a stat-grabber too. I think it's quite possible that neither is one, but reasonable minds can disagree (reasonably).

Boy, was I wrong about General Tso. Can't tell if he's a troll or just ridiculously close-minded -- though I suspect the latter. Regardless, I hope everyone continues to call him out on his worldview and the make-believe facts that support it.

 

[General Tso]

Yeah, that was a bit uncalled for on my part and I'd retract it if I could. It seemed to me at the time that Brady cared less about records. After all, this is the guy who could have had 4 opportunities to throw a TD pass from the 1 and keep his streak alive late in the 4th quarter a couple months ago, but instead handed off for a TD and saw his consecutive passing record snapped one short of Brees.

Wrong again, Merlin. Brady's streak came to an end in a game they lost 13-6 to the Bengals. A game where the Patriots failed to score a touchdown in any fashion. So, how did Brady selflessly allow his streak to die by handing off for a touchdown in a game where the Patriots didn't score a touchdown?

Time to call off the dogs, I think. Dude acknowledged that Brady is a stat-grabber too. I think it's quite possible that neither is one, but reasonable minds can disagree (reasonably).

Boy, was I wrong about General Tso. Can't tell if he's a troll or just ridiculously close-minded -- though I suspect the latter. Regardless, I hope everyone continues to call him out on his worldview and the make-believe facts that support it.

Who's the troll, Bamac? Keep fishing dude. I only bite when the bait is good, and yours quite frankly just smells bad. I was asked nicely by someone in this thread to not spoil the enjoyment of Manning's record and I have chosen to respect that. You know where I stand.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Chargers - 4

Chiefs - 1

Pats - 2

Chiefs - 5

Titans - 4

Chargers - 2

Texans - 2

Raiders - 2

Just needs 4 more against the Texans and Raiders to break it...

Outside of injury there's almost no way he fails to break it.

fyi brady had 52 td -- he needs 5 more, but he'll probably get that next week

 

[Bamac]

Chargers - 4

Chiefs - 1

Pats - 2

Chiefs - 5

Titans - 4

Chargers - 2

Texans - 2

Raiders - 2

Just needs 4 more against the Texans and Raiders to break it...

fyi brady had 52 td -- he needs 5 more, but he'll probably get that next week

You counting rushing TDs too?

 

[skinsrule05]

Chargers - 4Chiefs - 1Pats - 2Chiefs - 5Titans - 4Chargers - 2

Texans - 2

Raiders - 2

Just needs 4 more against the Texans and Raiders to break it...

Outside of injury there's almost no way he fails to break it.

fyi brady had 52 td -- he needs 5 more, but he'll probably get that next week

No, the record everyone is talking about is the most passing TDs in a season. Brady has the record w 50. Otherwise you should be including the one rushing TD manning had this year.