Winslow officially has torn ACL - Done for year (1 Viewer)

[SammyJankis]

Tribune Chronicle Article

Winslow likely done for the year

By MIKE McLAIN Tribune Chronicle

BEREA - The joy ride Kellen Winslow Jr. took on his motorcycle last Sunday is expected to cost the Browns highly-touted tight end the 2005 season.

The Tribune Chronicle has learned that Winslow suffered a tear of the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee. Surgery will be required, which means that Winslow will likely miss the upcoming season.

Timetables for recovering from ACL surgery vary depending on the severity of the tear and the individual. A common reference point is a minimum of eight to 10 months, but it's possible that Winslow might need a full year to recover from surgery.

The Browns issued a statement Wednesday afternoon confirming that Winslow was still hospitalized, but no details of the knee injury were given. The statement did say that concern remains with the right knee. It went on to say that the team wouldn't comment on any aspects of his contract.

Winslow, the seventh overall choice in the 2004 draft, was hurt when he lost control of his Suzuki GSX-R750 and hit a curb in a parking lot of a community college in Westlake. Winslow, who was traveling an estimated 35 mph, was thrown over the handlebars and landed in a landscaped area. His helmet flew off, but he didn't suffer head injuries.

A report on the "CBS Sportsline" website stated that Winslow might have punctured a lung and hurt a kidney. The kidney injury is believed to be a bruise.

Winslow spent Sunday night at Fairview Hospital. He was transferred to the Cleveland Clinic Monday to be evaluated by Browns' physicians.

Missing the 2005 season could cost Winslow plenty of money because of a breach in Paragraph 3 of his contract that states he must refrain from participating in hazardous non-football activities that involve a significant risk of injury. Activities include, but aren't limited to, skydiving, hang gliding, mountain climbing, auto racing, motorcycling, scuba diving and skiing.

The team could recover $5 million of his initial $6 million signing bonus and the entire $4.4125 million option bonus that was triggered in early March. Winslow received $2 million of that bonus in March, but the remaining $2.4125 isn't payable until July 15.

Agents Kevin and Carl Poston negotiated a six-year, $40 million contract for Winslow last year, which is the most lucrative ever for a NFL tight end. The total value was reduced to $29.4175 million when Winslow failed to meet an incentive for playing time because of a season-ending ankle injury suffered in a week two game against the Dallas Cowboys. The one-time incentive would have activated $5.367 million in future bonuses and $5.215 million in future base salaries.

Winslow is the latest in what has become a long list of Browns first-round draft choices that haven't panned out. Quarterback Tim Couch (1999) is out of football with a sore arm. Defensive end Courtney Brown (2000) had an injury-riddled five-year run and was released in March. Defensive tackle Gerard Warren (2001) never played up to expectations and was recently traded to Denver. Running back William Green (2002) was arrested for DUI and possession of marijuana and is in Stage 2 of the NFL's drug program. Center Jeff Faine (2003) has finished both of his seasons on injured-reserve with leg injuries.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Whata#######.

 

[RBM]

What a freakin waste of talent

 

[Synthesizer]

I still can't believe the Browns liked him so much that they TRADED UP to get him.

 

[diesel7982]

I still can't believe the Browns liked him so much that they TRADED UP to get him.

Kellen Winslow or Roy Williams and Teddy Lehman? Hmm....

 

[Colin Dowling]

Lets hope they have full security/chaparone detail surrouinding Bralyon Edwards as we speak.COlin

 

[RBM]

I still can't believe the Browns liked him so much that they TRADED UP to get him.

Kellen Winslow or Roy Williams and Teddy Lehman? Hmm....

 

[RBM]

Lets hope they have full security/chaparone detail surrouinding Bralyon Edwards as we speak.

COlin

Heard Edwards on afternoon blitz yesterday (sirius NFL) and he pretty much insinuated that he thought what Winslow did was immature and very stupid, just didnt come out and actually say it.

 

[reg]

This is still speculative, no different than the report yesterday.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

This is still speculative, no different than the report yesterday.

What is "speculative" about: K2 has a torn ACL in his knee?

 

[dpeease]

What

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Man I love that avatar.

 

[reg]

This is still speculative, no different than the report yesterday.

What is "speculative" about: K2 has a torn ACL in his knee?

Has not been confirmed by the team yet. No different than PFT posting yesterday the same thing. It could very well be true, but doesn't deserve a whole new post, rehashing everything yesterday.

The Browns issued a statement Wednesday afternoon confirming that Winslow was still hospitalized, but no details of the knee injury were given. The statement did say that concern remains with the right knee.

 

[Colin Dowling]

This is still speculative, no different than the report yesterday.

What is "speculative" about: K2 has a torn ACL in his knee?

Has not been confirmed by the team yet. No different than PFT posting yesterday the same thing. It could very well be true, but doesn't deserve a whole new post, rehashing everything yesterday.

The Browns issued a statement Wednesday afternoon confirming that Winslow was still hospitalized, but no details of the knee injury were given. The statement did say that concern remains with the right knee.

A published, for-profit newspaper is A LOT different thant PFT.COlin

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

I still can't believe the Browns liked him so much that they TRADED UP to get him.

Kellen Winslow or Roy Williams and Teddy Lehman? Hmm....

Actually the funny thing is, the Lions had NO intention of taking Winslow. They would've chosen Roy and KW2 would've been available at the spot the Browns were initially slated at. Oh they woulda kept their 2nd rounder too.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

This is still speculative, no different than the report yesterday.

What is "speculative" about: K2 has a torn ACL in his knee?

Has not been confirmed by the team yet. No different than PFT posting yesterday the same thing. It could very well be true, but doesn't deserve a whole new post, rehashing everything yesterday.

The Browns issued a statement Wednesday afternoon confirming that Winslow was still hospitalized, but no details of the knee injury were given. The statement did say that concern remains with the right knee.

Let's just say.. it happened. He's done.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

This is still speculative, no different than the report yesterday.

What is "speculative" about: K2 has a torn ACL in his knee?

Has not been confirmed by the team yet. No different than PFT posting yesterday the same thing. It could very well be true, but doesn't deserve a whole new post, rehashing everything yesterday.

The Browns issued a statement Wednesday afternoon confirming that Winslow was still hospitalized, but no details of the knee injury were given. The statement did say that concern remains with the right knee.

I guess we'll just disagree on that. There is a HUGE difference between a rumor and a printed article in a newspaper saying that there is indeed a torn ACL. The article doesn't say there "might be" a torn ACL, it says there IS a torn ACL. IF it turns our there is no torn ACL, the paper is going to look AWFULLY silly. I'm not saying it's never happened, but the percentage chance is much much much lower than the chance that a rumor turns out ot be false.

 

[reg]

This is still speculative, no different than the report yesterday.

What is "speculative" about: K2 has a torn ACL in his knee?

Has not been confirmed by the team yet. No different than PFT posting yesterday the same thing. It could very well be true, but doesn't deserve a whole new post, rehashing everything yesterday.

The Browns issued a statement Wednesday afternoon confirming that Winslow was still hospitalized, but no details of the knee injury were given. The statement did say that concern remains with the right knee.

I guess we'll just disagree on that. There is a HUGE difference between a rumor and a printed article in a newspaper saying that there is indeed a torn ACL. The article doesn't say there "might be" a torn ACL, it says there IS a torn ACL. IF it turns our there is no torn ACL, the paper is going to look AWFULLY silly. I'm not saying it's never happened, but the percentage chance is much much much lower than the chance that a rumor turns out ot be false.

All I am saying is that PFT and CBS Sportsline said the same thing yesterday, and that was in the huge KWII thread. Not sure why more threads are needed. I will just ignore for now.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

This is still speculative, no different than the report yesterday.

What is "speculative" about: K2 has a torn ACL in his knee?

Has not been confirmed by the team yet. No different than PFT posting yesterday the same thing. It could very well be true, but doesn't deserve a whole new post, rehashing everything yesterday.

The Browns issued a statement Wednesday afternoon confirming that Winslow was still hospitalized, but no details of the knee injury were given. The statement did say that concern remains with the right knee.

I guess we'll just disagree on that. There is a HUGE difference between a rumor and a printed article in a newspaper saying that there is indeed a torn ACL. The article doesn't say there "might be" a torn ACL, it says there IS a torn ACL. IF it turns our there is no torn ACL, the paper is going to look AWFULLY silly. I'm not saying it's never happened, but the percentage chance is much much much lower than the chance that a rumor turns out ot be false.

All I am saying is that PFT and CBS Sportsline said the same thing yesterday, and that was in the huge KWII thread. Not sure why more threads are needed. I will just ignore for now.

PFT and CBS both reported a lot of "mights" and "maybes" and "worrieds". If you can't see the difference between that and "K2 has a torn ACL", I can't help you. It's not the same thing. At all.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I almost feel bad for the Brownies. Almost.Here's the Braylon Edwards board odds :Just a standard Michigan WR bust : 3-1Falls backwards into a grain combine, sustains career and life-ending injury : 10-1Caught in crack den with William Green : 12-1Slips on cupcake icing dropped in training room, breaks hip, ends career : 15-1Sucks for the Browns for 3 years, gets cut, has 1,400 receiving yards with Green Bay a year later : 2-1Tears ACL in a freak hopscotch accident : 9-1Hit by Troy Polamalu - head flies off. Career over. : 22-1Gets elected to Pro Bowl. Foolishly goes surfing wearing bad luck Hawaiian tiki idol. Drowns. Career over. : 16-1

 

[Cunning Linguist]

Where is the :toast: smilie?

 

[mbuehner]

Winslow likely done for the year

Whammy :X

 

[rhawkins68]

This is still speculative, no different than the report yesterday.

What is "speculative" about: K2 has a torn ACL in his knee?

Has not been confirmed by the team yet. No different than PFT posting yesterday the same thing. It could very well be true, but doesn't deserve a whole new post, rehashing everything yesterday.

The Browns issued a statement Wednesday afternoon confirming that Winslow was still hospitalized, but no details of the knee injury were given. The statement did say that concern remains with the right knee.

I'm glad it was a new post. It made is a lot easier finding the information versus paging through an already long thread.

 

[Futility]

Lets hope they have full security/chaparone detail surrouinding Bralyon Edwards as we speak.

COlin

I've got 2 words for you: grassy knoll.

 

[Bob Henry]

I still can't believe the Browns liked him so much that they TRADED UP to get him. 

Kellen Winslow or Roy Williams and Teddy Lehman? Hmm....

Payback to Browns fans for the Lions giving up a 4th rounder for Ty freaking Detmer.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

This is better than Billy Gramatica blowing out his knee while jumping around like a village idiot.

 

[Family Matters]

What

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Great acronym: W.A.D. He's a WAD! For some reason that just made me laugh.Now for the more serious part. I really cannot understand why someone would take the kind of risks he's taken. I'm sure some others have done so as well but getting on a motorcycle and riding normally is one thing, taking unessacary risks by doing things like wheelies is another. Obviuosly he's paying the price.

What should the Browns do? Keep in mind that Winslow is a holdover from Davis. I don't know Crennel and the gang are enamoured with him or not. But after what Winslow has done they may no longer want him. If you think about the first injury you realize that was out of Winslow's control. But this one is Winslow out of control. Whatever he was thinking when he did this, he clearly was thinking of no one but himself. The message is I don't care about the Browns, the fans or my career.

Message from the Browns: We don't care about you any longer either. Maybe it's time to cut their losses and move on. I'd be ok with that.

 

[Payne]

I still can't believe the Browns liked him so much that they TRADED UP to get him. 

Kellen Winslow or Roy Williams and Teddy Lehman? Hmm....

Actually, I thought the 2nd rounder was used to move up to get Kevin Jones. I believe Lehman was drafted with Detroit's original 2nd rounder.I could be wrong. Either way, Detroit would not have been able to draft Lehman & Kevin Jones had Cleveland stood pat.

 

[TheBigHouse]

I still can't believe the Browns liked him so much that they TRADED UP to get him. 

Kellen Winslow or Roy Williams and Teddy Lehman? Hmm....

Or Roy Williams and Ben Troupe

 

[Spike]

What

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Great acronym: W.A.D. He's a WAD! For some reason that just made me laugh.Now for the more serious part. I really cannot understand why someone would take the kind of risks he's taken. I'm sure some others have done so as well but getting on a motorcycle and riding normally is one thing, taking unessacary risks by doing things like wheelies is another. Obviuosly he's paying the price.

What should the Browns do? Keep in mind that Winslow is a holdover from Davis. I don't know Crennel and the gang are enamoured with him or not. But after what Winslow has done they may no longer want him. If you think about the first injury you realize that was out of Winslow's control. But this one is Winslow out of control. Whatever he was thinking when he did this, he clearly was thinking of no one but himself. The message is I don't care about the Browns, the fans or my career.

Message from the Browns: We don't care about you any longer either. Maybe it's time to cut their losses and move on. I'd be ok with that.

You want to know why?It's because, and I'm just making a statement and not judging, when you're that age, it's not a "risk", it's something you want to do. You don't even have "risk" anywhere in your thought process, it's just "Hey, I'd like to buy a bike, I have the money to buy a bike, so I'm buying a bike." They are not sitting around saying "Hmm... I know riding a bike is illegal under my contract, so I need to weigh the risks."

I'm not saying it's due to immaturity, it's due to being young.

 

[Family Matters]

What

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Great acronym: W.A.D. He's a WAD! For some reason that just made me laugh.Now for the more serious part. I really cannot understand why someone would take the kind of risks he's taken. I'm sure some others have done so as well but getting on a motorcycle and riding normally is one thing, taking unessacary risks by doing things like wheelies is another. Obviuosly he's paying the price.

What should the Browns do? Keep in mind that Winslow is a holdover from Davis. I don't know Crennel and the gang are enamoured with him or not. But after what Winslow has done they may no longer want him. If you think about the first injury you realize that was out of Winslow's control. But this one is Winslow out of control. Whatever he was thinking when he did this, he clearly was thinking of no one but himself. The message is I don't care about the Browns, the fans or my career.

Message from the Browns: We don't care about you any longer either. Maybe it's time to cut their losses and move on. I'd be ok with that.

You want to know why?It's because, and I'm just making a statement and not judging, when you're that age, it's not a "risk", it's something you want to do. You don't even have "risk" anywhere in your thought process, it's just "Hey, I'd like to buy a bike, I have the money to buy a bike, so I'm buying a bike." They are not sitting around saying "Hmm... I know riding a bike is illegal under my contract, so I need to weigh the risks."

I'm not saying it's due to immaturity, it's due to being young.

You're right but it is do to inmaturity. That's why they call it that. The other thing that stands out is that he's not surrounding himself with the right people that can guide him to good decisions. Without the proper guidience you tend to do the wrong things.

 

[PewterFan]

I'm glad he's out for the year. I have nothing, but ill will to this joker. I hope the Browns get every penny of his signing bonus back.

 

[Topes]

I'm not saying it's due to immaturity, it's due to being young.

Good point.This looks pretty much like a done deal to me. ACL and done. Just waiting on the official confirmation.

Called it first:

Shoulder or elbow? What does it matter?

I think most of us are concerned with the knee. I know two people who tore ACLs in motorcycle accidents. Neither was in a parking lot, but with the internal injuries and all, I wonder if they've had a chance to MRI that knee.

May 2 2005, 10:09 PM

 

[Fantasy Ninja]

I'm glad he's out for the year. I have nothing, but ill will to this joker. I hope the Browns get every penny of his signing bonus back.

Remember back when the "soldier" was talking about getting #1 overall money because Cleveland said they had him rated #1. What a maroon. Hopefully he does lose a lot of money on this.

 

[ooofffaaa]

Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[dloew]

How painful is a torn ACL?After the accident, KWII was complaining of chest pains. If he had a torn ACL, which would hurt more: the knee or his puntured lung?I have never had either one, so I don't know the answer to the question.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

What

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Great acronym: W.A.D. He's a WAD! For some reason that just made me laugh.

Make it so.

 

[jurb26]

How painful is a torn ACL?

After the accident, KWII was complaining of chest pains. If he had a torn ACL, which would hurt more: the knee or his puntured lung?

I have never had either one, so I don't know the answer to the question.

The lung would hurt WAY WORSE from what I understand! There have been people who have torn ACL's before and hardly even noticed it was more than a sprain (my boss at the Co. picknick last year).

 

[Eagle Eye]

How painful is a torn ACL?

After the accident, KWII was complaining of chest pains. If he had a torn ACL, which would hurt more: the knee or his puntured lung?

I have never had either one, so I don't know the answer to the question.

It varies. I've seen people who tore the ACL playing basketball that just limp off and don't even go to the doctor till the next day, others I've seen writhing in pain.

 

[cstu]

I almost feel bad for the Brownies. Almost.

Here's the Braylon Edwards board odds :

Just a standard Michigan WR bust : 3-1

Falls backwards into a grain combine, sustains career and life-ending injury : 10-1

Caught in crack den with William Green : 12-1

Slips on cupcake icing dropped in training room, breaks hip, ends career : 15-1

Sucks for the Browns for 3 years, gets cut, has 1,400 receiving yards with Green Bay a year later : 2-1

Tears ACL in a freak hopscotch accident : 9-1

Hit by Troy Polamalu - head flies off. Career over. : 22-1

Gets elected to Pro Bowl. Foolishly goes surfing wearing bad luck Hawaiian tiki idol. Drowns. Career over. : 16-1

 

[glumpy]

Missing the 2005 season could cost Winslow plenty of money because of a breach in Paragraph 3 of his contract that states he must refrain from participating in hazardous non-football activities that involve a significant risk of injury. Activities include, but aren't limited to, skydiving, hang gliding, mountain climbing, auto racing, motorcycling, scuba diving and skiing.

The team could recover $5 million of his initial $6 million signing bonus and the entire $4.4125 million option bonus that was triggered in early March. Winslow received $2 million of that bonus in March, but the remaining $2.4125 isn't payable until July 15.

Agents Kevin and Carl Poston negotiated a six-year, $40 million contract for Winslow last year, which is the most lucrative ever for a NFL tight end. The total value was reduced to $29.4175 million when Winslow failed to meet an incentive for playing time because of a season-ending ankle injury suffered in a week two game against the Dallas Cowboys. The one-time incentive would have activated $5.367 million in future bonuses and $5.215 million in future base salaries.

I know somebody has done this but didn't see it...$40 mil for 6 years.

less future bonuses and salaries due to 1st year week two injury = $29.4125 mil

less $5 mil original signing bonus for stupidity = $24.4125 mil

less $4.4125 option bonus for stupidity = $20 mil

Sheeesh--the man's busted! Impoverished!

At this rate he'll never play another down, and have to settle for a piddlin' $3.3 mil/year.

*sigh*

 

[dudaman]

Gets elected to Pro Bowl. Foolishly goes surfing wearing bad luck Hawaiian tiki idol. Drowns. Career over. : 16-1

Excellent choice here, if you ask me.Anyway, I assume the Potsons get to keep their commission - so does Winslow have to pay back the 5 million plus eat the cost of the commission? If that's the case, he stands to lose alot more than just the 5mill, right?

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

I'm glad he's out for the year. I have nothing, but ill will to this joker. I hope the Browns get every penny of his signing bonus back.

Remember back when the "soldier" was talking about getting #1 overall money because Cleveland said they had him rated #1. What a maroon. Hopefully he does lose a lot of money on this.

He is a total maroon.

 

[nightshift]

I almost feel bad for the Brownies. Almost.

Here's the Braylon Edwards board odds :

Just a standard Michigan WR bust : 3-1

Falls backwards into a grain combine, sustains career and life-ending injury : 10-1

Caught in crack den with William Green : 12-1

Slips on cupcake icing dropped in training room, breaks hip, ends career : 15-1

Sucks for the Browns for 3 years, gets cut, has 1,400 receiving yards with Green Bay a year later : 2-1

Tears ACL in a freak hopscotch accident : 9-1

Hit by Troy Polamalu - head flies off. Career over. : 22-1

Gets elected to Pro Bowl. Foolishly goes surfing wearing bad luck Hawaiian tiki idol. Drowns. Career over. : 16-1

Realizes he plays for the "Mistake by the Lake", quits football, and joins the Ricky Williams Worldwide Tour of Ganja Growing Countries.

 

[TheFanatic]

How painful is a torn ACL?

After the accident, KWII was complaining of chest pains. If he had a torn ACL, which would hurt more: the knee or his puntured lung?

I have never had either one, so I don't know the answer to the question.

I think I'll go with the vital organ being punctured over a pain in a joint. Unless there is a bone jutting through the skin at the joint, the Lung has to be more painful

 

[msommer]

I know somebody has done this but didn't see it...

$40 mil for 6 years.

less future bonuses and salaries due to 1st year week two injury = $29.4125 mil

less $5 mil original signing bonus for stupidity = $24.4125 mil

less $4.4125 option bonus for stupidity = $20 mil

Sheeesh--the man's busted! Impoverished!

At this rate he'll never play another down, and have to settle for a piddlin' $3.3 mil/year.

*sigh*

If he never plays another down in the NFL in the above scenario he'll have made 1 million dollars plus two years of base salaries - say 1.5M to this point.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I almost feel bad for the Brownies.  Almost.

Here's the Braylon Edwards board odds :

Just a standard Michigan WR bust : 3-1

Falls backwards into a grain combine, sustains career and life-ending injury : 10-1

Caught in crack den with William Green : 12-1

Slips on cupcake icing dropped in training room, breaks hip, ends career : 15-1

Sucks for the Browns for 3 years, gets cut, has 1,400 receiving yards with Green Bay a year later : 2-1

Tears ACL in a freak hopscotch accident : 9-1

Hit by Troy Polamalu - head flies off.  Career over.  : 22-1

Gets elected to Pro Bowl.  Foolishly goes surfing wearing bad luck Hawaiian tiki idol.  Drowns.  Career over.  : 16-1

Realizes he plays for the "Mistake by the Lake", quits football, and joins the Ricky Williams Worldwide Tour of Ganja Growing Countries.

Works for me !

 

[Family Matters]

I almost feel bad for the Brownies. Almost.

Here's the Braylon Edwards board odds :

Just a standard Michigan WR bust : 3-1

Falls backwards into a grain combine, sustains career and life-ending injury : 10-1

Caught in crack den with William Green : 12-1

Slips on cupcake icing dropped in training room, breaks hip, ends career : 15-1

Sucks for the Browns for 3 years, gets cut, has 1,400 receiving yards with Green Bay a year later : 2-1

Tears ACL in a freak hopscotch accident : 9-1

Hit by Troy Polamalu - head flies off. Career over. : 22-1

Gets elected to Pro Bowl. Foolishly goes surfing wearing bad luck Hawaiian tiki idol. Drowns. Career over. : 16-1

Way to funny Evil! Classic.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

What

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Great acronym: W.A.D. He's a WAD! For some reason that just made me laugh.Now for the more serious part. I really cannot understand why someone would take the kind of risks he's taken. I'm sure some others have done so as well but getting on a motorcycle and riding normally is one thing, taking unessacary risks by doing things like wheelies is another. Obviuosly he's paying the price.

What should the Browns do? Keep in mind that Winslow is a holdover from Davis. I don't know Crennel and the gang are enamoured with him or not. But after what Winslow has done they may no longer want him. If you think about the first injury you realize that was out of Winslow's control. But this one is Winslow out of control. Whatever he was thinking when he did this, he clearly was thinking of no one but himself. The message is I don't care about the Browns, the fans or my career.

Message from the Browns: We don't care about you any longer either. Maybe it's time to cut their losses and move on. I'd be ok with that.

You want to know why?It's because, and I'm just making a statement and not judging, when you're that age, it's not a "risk", it's something you want to do. You don't even have "risk" anywhere in your thought process, it's just "Hey, I'd like to buy a bike, I have the money to buy a bike, so I'm buying a bike." They are not sitting around saying "Hmm... I know riding a bike is illegal under my contract, so I need to weigh the risks."

I'm not saying it's due to immaturity, it's due to being young.

The reason he didn't take his contract seriously, and choose to take a "risk" and ride his new bike, is because the rules don't apply to him. He is above it all and has been since grade school I would guess. Coddled and told he's the greatest his whole life, why worry about a contract and responsibility? I'm guessing he dosen't take a whole lot of things very seriously, certainly not his career. I just feel bad for Browns fans.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Lets hope they have full security/chaparone detail surrouinding Bralyon Edwards as we speak.

COlin

You know Colin,If I was Braylon Edward's guardian (or any other player that had the slightest chance of doign something dumb like this), I think I'd allocate a couple hundred thousand dollars a year to having a full time 24 hour "bodyguard / babysitter" service. Seriously. You could have 3 guys on 8 hour shifts.

Think where Lawrence Phillips might be today if he'd have done that.

I'm totally serious.

J

 

[loser]

Never mind... it's been established he's a dooch.