WIS XV: Alphabet Soup with a side of Salary- Draft & Season Thread (1 Viewer)

[Kraft...]

F'n Larry

 

[Brady Marino]

this format is perverse. value x position scarcity x alphabet scarcity. how do you figure out rankings in 3 dimensional space?

btw, if i had a team in this, i'd name it oso caldo alfabeto

When a guy has all 3 it's easy (Yount, Verlander, Utley)... the question is how do you value a guy who only has 2 of the 3 dimensions.

Plan on drafting Todd Zeile?

NO ONE DRAFTS MY UNSUNG CHILDHOOD HERO.

 

[RnR]

F'n Larry

lol.... =o)~

 

[RnR]

On a more serious note, Larry and I are in some discussions about a trade. This could take a few minutes.

 

[Sammy3469]

On a more serious note, Larry and I are in some discussions about a trade. This could take a few minutes.

Thank god the Larry rule is in effect.

 

[RnR]

Also, trading of draft slots is allowed.

We've cleared it through the commish, Sammy.

 

[Eephus]

Hmm. I'm officially free ballin' with Dr. D after these developments. Figured I would try to sneak Utley and Yount around the 1/2 turn. Apparently folks are in on the letter scarcity nice and early.

I think letter scarcity is going to be pretty overrated when all is said and done. Not to specifically criticize anyone taken so far, as you can make a case that they are all towards the top of their position tiers, but I think generally it's more likely to result in having stronger positions 22-25 on the roster at the expense of top end strength.

The max salary rule makes letter scarcity more of a consideration. By removing the extreme statistical outliers, we created a performance plateau and increased the importance of the other two factors.

 

[Sammy3469]

Hmm. I'm officially free ballin' with Dr. D after these developments. Figured I would try to sneak Utley and Yount around the 1/2 turn. Apparently folks are in on the letter scarcity nice and early.

I think letter scarcity is going to be pretty overrated when all is said and done. Not to specifically criticize anyone taken so far, as you can make a case that they are all towards the top of their position tiers, but I think generally it's more likely to result in having stronger positions 22-25 on the roster at the expense of top end strength.

The max salary rule makes letter scarcity more of a consideration. By removing the extreme statistical outliers, we created a performance plateau and increased the importance of the other two factors.

therefore due to the fact

 

[Koya]

Hmm. I'm officially free ballin' with Dr. D after these developments. Figured I would try to sneak Utley and Yount around the 1/2 turn. Apparently folks are in on the letter scarcity nice and early.

I think letter scarcity is going to be pretty overrated when all is said and done. Not to specifically criticize anyone taken so far, as you can make a case that they are all towards the top of their position tiers, but I think generally it's more likely to result in having stronger positions 22-25 on the roster at the expense of top end strength.

The max salary rule makes letter scarcity more of a consideration. By removing the extreme statistical outliers, we created a performance plateau and increased the importance of the other two factors.

therefore due to the fact

Stop Blinding Me with Science!!!

 

[Kraft...]

Hmm. I'm officially free ballin' with Dr. D after these developments. Figured I would try to sneak Utley and Yount around the 1/2 turn. Apparently folks are in on the letter scarcity nice and early.

I think letter scarcity is going to be pretty overrated when all is said and done. Not to specifically criticize anyone taken so far, as you can make a case that they are all towards the top of their position tiers, but I think generally it's more likely to result in having stronger positions 22-25 on the roster at the expense of top end strength.

The max salary rule makes letter scarcity more of a consideration. By removing the extreme statistical outliers, we created a performance plateau and increased the importance of the other two factors.

therefore due to the fact

Stop Blinding Me with Science!!!

Pick a stadium, no feet dragging this time

 

[Eephus]

Hmm. I'm officially free ballin' with Dr. D after these developments. Figured I would try to sneak Utley and Yount around the 1/2 turn. Apparently folks are in on the letter scarcity nice and early.

I think letter scarcity is going to be pretty overrated when all is said and done. Not to specifically criticize anyone taken so far, as you can make a case that they are all towards the top of their position tiers, but I think generally it's more likely to result in having stronger positions 22-25 on the roster at the expense of top end strength.

The max salary rule makes letter scarcity more of a consideration. By removing the extreme statistical outliers, we created a performance plateau and increased the importance of the other two factors.

therefore due to the fact

Stop Blinding Me with Science!!!

we should have rolled dice for letters

 

[Koya]

Hmm. I'm officially free ballin' with Dr. D after these developments. Figured I would try to sneak Utley and Yount around the 1/2 turn. Apparently folks are in on the letter scarcity nice and early.

I think letter scarcity is going to be pretty overrated when all is said and done. Not to specifically criticize anyone taken so far, as you can make a case that they are all towards the top of their position tiers, but I think generally it's more likely to result in having stronger positions 22-25 on the roster at the expense of top end strength.

The max salary rule makes letter scarcity more of a consideration. By removing the extreme statistical outliers, we created a performance plateau and increased the importance of the other two factors.

therefore due to the fact

Stop Blinding Me with Science!!!

Pick a stadium, no feet dragging this time

Don't we have until like round 4? That said, Ill do it after my pick after the turn.Not really dragging, just shuffling. Everyday.

 

[larry_boy_44]

I just got home... it's gonna take me a little while to get some stuff sorted out...

if someone more than 2 spots lower than me wants to swap spots, i'm open to it... just post the pick (first come first serve)... otherwise I should have a pick in like 30-45 tops...

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Sure 1.22

(in response to Larry's trade reference)

 

[jfranco77]

Hmm. I'm officially free ballin' with Dr. D after these developments. Figured I would try to sneak Utley and Yount around the 1/2 turn. Apparently folks are in on the letter scarcity nice and early.

I think letter scarcity is going to be pretty overrated when all is said and done. Not to specifically criticize anyone taken so far, as you can make a case that they are all towards the top of their position tiers, but I think generally it's more likely to result in having stronger positions 22-25 on the roster at the expense of top end strength.

The max salary rule makes letter scarcity more of a consideration. By removing the extreme statistical outliers, we created a performance plateau and increased the importance of the other two factors.

The max salary rule also makes deeper rosters more important. You'll probably need to use at least 18-20 of your guys. It's not perfect but it's reasonable.

 

[Kraft...]

Hmm. I'm officially free ballin' with Dr. D after these developments. Figured I would try to sneak Utley and Yount around the 1/2 turn. Apparently folks are in on the letter scarcity nice and early.

I think letter scarcity is going to be pretty overrated when all is said and done. Not to specifically criticize anyone taken so far, as you can make a case that they are all towards the top of their position tiers, but I think generally it's more likely to result in having stronger positions 22-25 on the roster at the expense of top end strength.

The max salary rule makes letter scarcity more of a consideration. By removing the extreme statistical outliers, we created a performance plateau and increased the importance of the other two factors.

therefore due to the fact

Stop Blinding Me with Science!!!

Pick a stadium, no feet dragging this time

Don't we have until like round 4? That said, Ill do it after my pick after the turn.Not really dragging, just shuffling. Everyday.

Slow rolling stadium pick is TM Koya shtickFortunately I was ahead of you so I got Fenway

 

[larry_boy_44]

Sure 1.22(in response to Larry's trade reference)

thanks... don't wanna hold stuff up....

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Hmm. I'm officially free ballin' with Dr. D after these developments. Figured I would try to sneak Utley and Yount around the 1/2 turn. Apparently folks are in on the letter scarcity nice and early.

I think letter scarcity is going to be pretty overrated when all is said and done. Not to specifically criticize anyone taken so far, as you can make a case that they are all towards the top of their position tiers, but I think generally it's more likely to result in having stronger positions 22-25 on the roster at the expense of top end strength.

The max salary rule makes letter scarcity more of a consideration. By removing the extreme statistical outliers, we created a performance plateau and increased the importance of the other two factors.

therefore due to the fact

Stop Blinding Me with Science!!!

Pick a stadium, no feet dragging this time

Don't we have until like round 4? That said, Ill do it after my pick after the turn.Not really dragging, just shuffling. Everyday.

False. You have until the end of round 1 or you get the WIS neutral stadium.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Cool...pick up in 5 mins

 

[jfranco77]

I'll update the whole draft order tonight, that's a big job and I have to go drive through a snowstorm now.

 

[Spartans Rule]

I was sort of hoping Larry would sit around and not pick for a while so I could think.

 

[larry_boy_44]

do I repick stadium, am I stuck with Yankee Stadium, or do we just switch draft picks and I still pick in the same stadium spot?

I'm ok with either of the options (although I am by far least ok with taking Yankee Stadium...)

 

[Eephus]

Hmm. I'm officially free ballin' with Dr. D after these developments. Figured I would try to sneak Utley and Yount around the 1/2 turn. Apparently folks are in on the letter scarcity nice and early.

I think letter scarcity is going to be pretty overrated when all is said and done. Not to specifically criticize anyone taken so far, as you can make a case that they are all towards the top of their position tiers, but I think generally it's more likely to result in having stronger positions 22-25 on the roster at the expense of top end strength.

The max salary rule makes letter scarcity more of a consideration. By removing the extreme statistical outliers, we created a performance plateau and increased the importance of the other two factors.

therefore due to the fact

Stop Blinding Me with Science!!!

Pick a stadium, no feet dragging this time

Don't we have until like round 4? That said, Ill do it after my pick after the turn.Not really dragging, just shuffling. Everyday.

False. You have until the end of round 1 or you get the WIS neutral stadium Coors Field.

Fixed

 

[Koya]

The irony being I was ready to do the LarryTrade - and even had a player ready.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Honus Wagner, SS

He will be an IMPACT shortstop

Frosty > :wave:

 

[Spartans Rule]

this format is perverse. value x position scarcity x alphabet scarcity. how do you figure out rankings in 3 dimensional space?

My draft strategy: ignore all 3 and draft on sentimental value.1.11 Dutch Leonard, SP

WIS II... those were the days.

 

[Eephus]

Run on Dutchmen

 

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

I'm not sure of the value but I get solid #numbers and 260 innings.

1.12 Luis Tiant, SP

ETA: PM'd Shake

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Run on Dutchmen

Dutch Schultz would have been the SOD

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

2nd Dutch Leonard always ####s with my spreadsheets.

 

[jfranco77]

Leonard was my guy. Didn't know he had a past. Damn.

 

[RnR]

Anyone seen Shake?

 

[jfranco77]

do I repick stadium, am I stuck with Yankee Stadium, or do we just switch draft picks and I still pick in the same stadium spot?I'm ok with either of the options (although I am by far least ok with taking Yankee Stadium...)

T-Up picked Yankee Stadium so he keeps it. You get your pick where you originally had it.

 

[jfranco77]

Google spreadsheet (letters tab) includes a count of how many of each are taken.

2 each for V, W, Y in the first 11 picks.

Page 1 will be updated for the pick trade momentarily.

Google spreadsheet is updated for the pick trade.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I can see a good strategy of alternating back and forth on value/position scarcity/alphabet scarcity. I was going another route then did some math on Yaz and decided that was the best pick at that point. But I'm sure I'll go several rounds where I don't even consider letters outside of making sure I didn't already pick an R or a D. Anyway, everytime I overthink these drafts my team never ends up being what I want it to be. I can achieve those same results by putting in a third of the effort this time.

 

[Eephus]

I can see a good strategy of alternating back and forth on value/position scarcity/alphabet scarcity. I was going another route then did some math on Yaz and decided that was the best pick at that point. But I'm sure I'll go several rounds where I don't even consider letters outside of making sure I didn't already pick an R or a D. Anyway, everytime I overthink these drafts my team never ends up being what I want it to be. I can achieve those same results by putting in a third of the effort this time.

Yastrzemski is a 29 pointer in Scrabble, one better than Piazza

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Drafkiller up?

 

[oso diablo]

Hmm. I'm officially free ballin' with Dr. D after these developments. Figured I would try to sneak Utley and Yount around the 1/2 turn. Apparently folks are in on the letter scarcity nice and early.

I think letter scarcity is going to be pretty overrated when all is said and done. Not to specifically criticize anyone taken so far, as you can make a case that they are all towards the top of their position tiers, but I think generally it's more likely to result in having stronger positions 22-25 on the roster at the expense of top end strength.

this is a good point, and has prompted me to alter my baselines (for VBD purposes). For batters anyway.

 

[Doug B]

Leonard was my guy. Didn't know he had a past. Damn.

Yount, H Wagner, Leonard, and Tiant were all coming up over and over as I spun the data preparing for my 1.8 pick. Leonard was the last guy I eliminated before going with Yount.Looks like many of us are on the same page.

 

[Doug B]

I think letter scarcity is going to be pretty overrated when all is said and done. Not to specifically criticize anyone taken so far, as you can make a case that they are all towards the top of their position tiers, but I think generally it's more likely to result in having stronger positions 22-25 on the roster at the expense of top end strength.

this is a good point, and has prompted me to alter my baselines (for VBD purposes). For batters anyway.

Letter scarcity is not playing into my valuations. Instead, I have a set-up that shows me how many good players are left in a given letter.

 

[Eephus]

I think letter scarcity is going to be pretty overrated when all is said and done. Not to specifically criticize anyone taken so far, as you can make a case that they are all towards the top of their position tiers, but I think generally it's more likely to result in having stronger positions 22-25 on the roster at the expense of top end strength.

this is a good point, and has prompted me to alter my baselines (for VBD purposes). For batters anyway.

Letter scarcity is not playing into my valuations. Instead, I have a set-up that shows me how many good players are left in a given letter.

WARabc

 

[Spartans Rule]

Leonard was my guy. Didn't know he had a past. Damn.

He pitched a two-hit shutout and hit a solo homer for me in a 1-0 SimLive World Series game.

 

[Koya]

FWIW, I would be willing to swap pics (1.21) through the draft, or just this / next round if someone is interested.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

SEE YOU NEXT TUESDAY?

 

[RnR]

SEE YOU NEXT TUESDAY?

Almost time for oso to step in and pull a Matt Stairs here.

 

[Koya]

Ohhhhh, I get it. SUNT

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Ohhhhh, I get it. SUNT

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

SEE YOU NEXT TUESDAY?

Almost time for oso to step in and pull a Matt Stairs here.

Oso Hitere Profesionale?

 

[Hoos First]

 

[Greco]

ABCDEFGH(IQ)JKLMNOPRSTUVWYZ

For record keeping purposes.

1.15 Pujols 1B/OF

2.10 Mize 1B

3.15 Brown SP

4.10 White SP

5.15 Torre C/3B

6.10 Hernandez SP

7.15 Glaus 3B/SS

8.10 Aurilia SS

9.15 Carew 2B

10.10 Ryan SP

11.15 Saito RP

12.10 Drew OF

13.15 Evans OF

14.10 Koenecke OF

15.15 Quinlan UTL

16.10 Jackson RP

17.15 Lo Duca C/1B

18.10 Neshek RP

19.15 Uggla 2B

20.10 Vaughn OF

21.15 Fromme SP

22.10 Zabel RP

23.15 O'Brien RP

24.10 Spencer PH