Bogart
Footballguy
I still don't know how to use AAA players (or finish above 0.500), so I'm out.
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WIS XVI - Format & Signup Thread (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter Eephus
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Eephus
Footballguy
You'll only be able to draft one Ranger this time out
Bogart
Footballguy
For the record, out as commissioner, not the league. And yes, only one Ranger, better make it a good one.
Doug B
Footballguy
This would be two in a row for you, huh? I can commish this time around.
RnR
Footballguy
Oh, there are ways around this, Bogey.
Bogart
Footballguy
True, but maybe just once I should bypass Ranger Shtick and actually try to win one of these things.
RnR
Footballguy
I was referring to drafting guys that were Rangers at some point in their career by using them from seasons with other teams, but trying to win works too.
Kraft...
Footballguy
Meh, overrated. Victory is fleeting, shtick is forever!
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Good point. No one remembers my WIS Roll Dem Bones Leeg title.Meh, overrated. Victory is fleeting, shtick is forever!
Bogart
Footballguy
Trust me, don't think I haven't spent 20 mins thinking this one through.
Doug B
Footballguy
Are we ready to roll?Need help finding an online dice roller that I can access from work. RPGLibrary and Irony are both blocked here. Need a site that can:
1) Roll a 1000-sided dice, or 10 100-sided dice, or equivalent
2) Tabulate the result as a single number (e.g. "734", not "89-67-44-3-20-22-56-90-12-81")
3) Send the results to two e-mail addresses (both wisruthroll.com and the roller's address)
We've typically used one of RPGLibrary or Irony in the past. If those are really the only options, I'll need someone to monitor the dice rolls for me -- and also to roll my dice.
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In case anyone jumps the gun with their dice roll -- largest number rolled drafts first, smallest number rolled drafts twenty-fourth (e.g. 987 probably gets the first pick, 43 likely gets the last pick). All other rolls are ordered from greatest to least.
Doug B
Footballguy
Still want to get the rules finalized, as well ... though it looks like we've reached consensus on the following:
1) 1903-1992 seasons, AL & NL only -- no Federal League, as usual
2) No team salary cap or individual-player salary restrictions, as usual
3) No clones, as usual
4) No AAA, as usual
5) Each team drafts 25 players. Each player drafted has to be from a different franchise. "Franchise" here is defined as "one of the 26 MLB teams playing in 1992". One exception -- the Toronto Blue Jays and Seattle Mariners are collectively being considered one franchise. Franchise continuity is being preserved -- for instance, a 1954 Washington Senator counts as a "Twin" and 1934 St. Louis Brown is an "Oriole". Below is a franchise-continuity cheat sheet -- you will need to draft one player from each of the following 25 "buckets":
Angels = California Angels, Los Angeles Angels
Astros = Houston Astros, Houston Colt 45's
Athletics = Oakland Athletics, Kansas City Athletics, Philadelphia Athletics
Blue Jays/Mariners = Toronto Blue Jays, Seattle Mariners
Braves = Atlanta Braves, Milwaukee Braves, Boston Braves, Boston Bees, Boston Beaneaters, Boston Doves
Brewers = Milwaukee Brewers, Seattle Pilots
Cardinals = St. Louis Cardinals
Cubs = Chicago Cubs
Dodgers = Los Angeles Dodgers, Brooklyn Dodgers, Brooklyn Robins, Brooklyn Superbas
Expos = Montreal Expos
Giants = San Francisco Giants, New York Giants
Indians = Cleveland Indians, Cleveland Naps
Mets = New York Mets
Orioles = Baltimore Orioles, St. Louis Browns
Padres = San Diego Padres
Phillies = Philadelphia Phillies, Philadelphia Blue Jay's (yes, WIS has the apostrophe)
Pirates = Pittsburgh Pirates
Rangers = Texas Rangers, 1961-1971 Washington Senators
Red Sox = Boston Red Sox, Boston Americans
Reds = Cincinnati Reds
Royals = Kansas City Royals
Tigers = Detroit Tigers
Twins = Minnesota Twins, 1903-1960 Washington Senators
White Sox = Chicago White Sox
Yankees = New York Yankees, New York Highlanders
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Is there anything else the house wants to bring up before the dice-rolling commences?
1) 1903-1992 seasons, AL & NL only -- no Federal League, as usual
2) No team salary cap or individual-player salary restrictions, as usual
3) No clones, as usual
4) No AAA, as usual
5) Each team drafts 25 players. Each player drafted has to be from a different franchise. "Franchise" here is defined as "one of the 26 MLB teams playing in 1992". One exception -- the Toronto Blue Jays and Seattle Mariners are collectively being considered one franchise. Franchise continuity is being preserved -- for instance, a 1954 Washington Senator counts as a "Twin" and 1934 St. Louis Brown is an "Oriole". Below is a franchise-continuity cheat sheet -- you will need to draft one player from each of the following 25 "buckets":
Angels = California Angels, Los Angeles Angels
Astros = Houston Astros, Houston Colt 45's
Athletics = Oakland Athletics, Kansas City Athletics, Philadelphia Athletics
Blue Jays/Mariners = Toronto Blue Jays, Seattle Mariners
Braves = Atlanta Braves, Milwaukee Braves, Boston Braves, Boston Bees, Boston Beaneaters, Boston Doves
Brewers = Milwaukee Brewers, Seattle Pilots
Cardinals = St. Louis Cardinals
Cubs = Chicago Cubs
Dodgers = Los Angeles Dodgers, Brooklyn Dodgers, Brooklyn Robins, Brooklyn Superbas
Expos = Montreal Expos
Giants = San Francisco Giants, New York Giants
Indians = Cleveland Indians, Cleveland Naps
Mets = New York Mets
Orioles = Baltimore Orioles, St. Louis Browns
Padres = San Diego Padres
Phillies = Philadelphia Phillies, Philadelphia Blue Jay's (yes, WIS has the apostrophe)
Pirates = Pittsburgh Pirates
Rangers = Texas Rangers, 1961-1971 Washington Senators
Red Sox = Boston Red Sox, Boston Americans
Reds = Cincinnati Reds
Royals = Kansas City Royals
Tigers = Detroit Tigers
Twins = Minnesota Twins, 1903-1960 Washington Senators
White Sox = Chicago White Sox
Yankees = New York Yankees, New York Highlanders
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Is there anything else the house wants to bring up before the dice-rolling commences?
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Eephus
Footballguy
I think limiting the pool to full seasons makes sense in this format, e.g. Hanley Ramirez shouldn't be available to be picked as a Dodger.
Doug B
Footballguy
No DH has been the standard. I can go either way. Now is the time for the house to chime in on this.
That's post-1992, though.
Correct. Will fix rules above.
Super Nintendo Chalmers
Footballguy
No DHFull/CombinedThe way we have always done it.
oso diablo
Footballguy
a) indifferentb) prefer to keep simple, and allow both full & combined. a quick perusal of the database suggests to me that it won't really matter.
oso diablo
Footballguy
btw, i'm calling that 25th hybrid franchise the Blue Marinerseta: or maybe Marinjays
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Doug B
Footballguy
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Since the Mariners have been a mockery for much of their existence, how about we call them the Mockingjays? (yes, the bird from Hunger Games).
SoCalBroncoFan
Footballguy
If someone wants to take Hanley as a Dodger they should be able to. But they can only use his 2012 year.'Eephus said:
Brady Marino
Footballguy
And even though it's probably sacrilegious for me to say this, but I wouldn't mind the DH this time around. Have we ever gone DH in one of these before?
Doug B
Footballguy
We did it in WIS VI ($100 M salary cap league). Think that was it.
Eephus
Footballguy
I skimmed the draft pool and there aren't many combined seasons that are likely to come into play. If the object of this sim is to draft players representing a franchise, it seems fair that the stats were compiled in that team's uniform for the full season, not just two months. It's just as easy to set draft center for full as full/combined.
Notorious T.R.E.
Showdown!™ Administrator
Just to confirm: If someone drafts Rickey Henderson as a Yankee, they can't take one of his years with the A's, correct?
Doug B
Footballguy
Correct.
Notorious T.R.E.
Showdown!™ Administrator
Edit: I don't know of any other dice roller. BTW, we had some issues in the hoops league with people rolling at RPG and using certain email providers...not sure why.
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Doug B
Footballguy
I looked at several that I could get to here at work. Couldn't even find another one that e-mailed results ... much less another 1000-sided die (or 10x100).
Eephus
Footballguy
I'd be honored to roll for you.We just need to pick a site and start rolling.
Notorious T.R.E.
Showdown!™ Administrator
Maybe just roll for everyone this time?
Eephus
Footballguy
Don't see any point in having a DH. The draft pool is big and the vast majority of the time period covered is pre-DH. The players drafted in rounds 20-25 will see more action in a non-DH league.The only time we used a DH was in the capped league because it made managing benches and bullpens easier.
Doug B
Footballguy
Thanks, eephus. Roll for me whenever you're ready.
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DICE ROLL INSTRUCTIONS
Dice roll at this link (RPGLibrary)
1d1000, 1 time
Send the results to wisruthroll@gmail.com and to your own e-mail address. Please put "WIS XVI" in the subject line.
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Rolls will be ordered from largest to smallest. Largest number rolled drafts in the 1.01 slot, smallest number rolled drafts 1.24 (e.g. 987 probably gets the first pick, 43 likely gets the last pick).
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DICE ROLL INSTRUCTIONS
Dice roll at this link (RPGLibrary)
1d1000, 1 time
Send the results to wisruthroll@gmail.com and to your own e-mail address. Please put "WIS XVI" in the subject line.
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Rolls will be ordered from largest to smallest. Largest number rolled drafts in the 1.01 slot, smallest number rolled drafts 1.24 (e.g. 987 probably gets the first pick, 43 likely gets the last pick).
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Doug B
Footballguy
Based on this list, I am PMing those who haven't been in this thread today ... letting them know the dice rolls have started. Anyone I'm missing?
Eephus
Footballguy
You have to roll dice
Kraft...
Footballguy
How that seemed like a good idea when we did it I have no idea, fun looking back at least.
Kraft...
Footballguy
I almost dd the same thing, caught myself right before clicking.I think that's happened so many times it's written into the imaginary rules to just count the first roll.I accidentally rolled 7 times,, first roll was 425. Just use that. If I need to re-roll, just let me know.
Bogart
Footballguy
I guess once you draft a player, no one else can draft him, so it doesn't really matter. If you drafted oh I don't know, Scott Fletcher and said the Rangers, then later changed it to Chicago (Cubs or White Sox), so you would open up your Ranger slot to take Don Slaught, that would be acceptable.
Eephus
Footballguy
I'm biased because I won the WS in that sim but I still think it was a good concept. It was educational to see how few players in history put up six elite seasons e.g. Keith Foulke. It also simulated how even the best players sometimes had off years. I've managed to recreate the latter effect in my Back to the Future teams.How that seemed like a good idea when we did it I have no idea, fun looking back at least.
