Worst starting quarterback in the NFL? (1 Viewer)

[billyjohnson]

Lots of donkeys here...but for my money, Alex Smith is THE worst starting quarterback in the NFL. The guy has a career rating of 68.6, can't make half of the throws needed, and seems to find a way to throw the kind of interceptions that just kills his team.

For comparison sake (career rating):

Smith--68.6

Sanchez--63

Cassell--79.6

Edwards--77.7

Moore--78.4

Anderson--70.3

Delhomme--81.8

Finley--242.5

 

[Shadows]

Cassel is next to useless in Fantasy Football. Horrible horrible QB

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The difference between Sanchez and Leinart, is, what, exactly?

Also, this: Leinert, Sanchez, and Cassell - all USC QB's.

Hm.

 

[jbz]

Did Jason Campbell get benched?

 

[nashua55]

Wow, i didnt think it could get much worse than Edwards, but after watching the games last night, the Sanchez/Cassel tagteam might be able to take the title. They might not throw for more than 1500yds combined.

 

[Patoons]

How this is not Matt Moore or Derek Anderson is baffling.

For anyone who watched the Giants game Moore single handly had three straight plays where he almost turned the ball over and actually turned it over in two of those. He also threw three picks in the Giants endzone.

 

[todisco1]

The difference between Sanchez and Leinart, is, what, exactly?Also, this: Leinert, Sanchez, and Cassell - all USC QB's.Hm.

And Carson Palmer...

 

[Insein]

Tough choice. Trent Edwards and Matt Moore both look pretty terrible but I'll lean towards Edwards since he's proven longer that he sucks harder.

 

[Vultan]

Edwards, no question. He's either gutless or has no field awareness to get the ball to his receivers. He ain't called Capt. Checkdown for nothin'.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Edwards, no question. He's either gutless or has no field awareness to get the ball to his receivers. He ain't called Capt. Checkdown for nothin'.

Edwards is the worst QB I've seen in a long time. He makes several monumental errors, in addition to his norm of poor play, every game. Those saying Sanchez are ridiculous. He played against a hyped up Ravens team last night. They played great. I'm not saying he's good. But he is at least average, and that is a huge step up from Edwards.

 

[GreatLakesMike]

Alex Smith.

 

[Clifford]

Cassel is next to useless in Fantasy Football. Horrible horrible QB

my vote. MOst of the guys on here at least have some wins and/or decent performances with their current teams. Once Cassel left NE he turned into a pumpkin. Hate to say it but Sanchez has got to be the runner up.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

For comparison sake (career rating):Smith--68.6Sanchez--63Cassell--79.6Edwards--77.7Moore--78.4Anderson--70.3Delhomme--81.8Finley--242.5

That's misleading. Edwards throws a 5 yard dump off pass on 3rd or 4th and 20 and it helps his rating and completion percentage.

 

[thekidd2009]

Sanchez has everything you could ask for. Elite offensive line, good weapons, great defense and he still sucks.

 

[azgroover]

The difference between Sanchez and Leinart, is, what, exactly?Also, this: Leinert, Sanchez, and Cassell - all USC QB's.Hm.

Poll has an obvious anti-Pac10 Bias:Moore and Anderson - OSUCassel and Sanchez - SCEdwards - StanfordAlex Smith is an honorary member since his school is headed to the 12 Pac.(tough call, these guys do blow)

 

[billyjohnson]

The difference between Sanchez and Leinart, is, what, exactly?Also, this: Leinert, Sanchez, and Cassell - all USC QB's.Hm.

Poll has an obvious anti-Pac10 Bias:Moore and Anderson - OSUCassel and Sanchez - SCEdwards - StanfordAlex Smith is an honorary member since his school is headed to the 12 Pac.(tough call, these guys do blow)

Hmm, interesting. No bias was intended. Is there really any doubt these are the bottom feeders of the NFL QBs? Maybe a more logical answer is that over the years, the swiss cheese pac-10 defenses have really inflated the numbers and possible talent of some of these QBs. Ryan Leaf anyone? Maybe some NFL teams should read this thread before jumping in the Locker, Luck, Barkley, etc sweepstakes in the future.

 

[billyjohnson]

Looks like Sanchez takes the prize...with Edwards a close second.

 

[Insein]

I think we need a larger body of suck before we can determine Sanchez' suckitude. Edwards is leading that category followed by Anderson and Smith. Delhomme used to be good. Cassel had a good season. Moore don't know but probably.

 

[switz]

Lots of donkeys here...but for my money, Alex Smith is THE worst starting quarterback in the NFL. The guy has a career rating of 68.6, can't make half of the throws needed, and seems to find a way to throw the kind of interceptions that just kills his team.For comparison sake (career rating):Smith--68.6Sanchez--63Cassell--79.6Edwards--77.7Moore--78.4Anderson--70.3Delhomme--81.8Finley--242.5

Had a tough decision to make... yikes

 

[switz]

Cassel is next to useless in Fantasy Football. Horrible horrible QB

Did you hear when they asked Charlie Weiss the first thing he was going to do in KC, he said "fix the QB!" LOLDo people still disagree that the Pats have a system in place that makes QBs look better than they really are?

 

[Chaka]

Cassel is next to useless in Fantasy Football. Horrible horrible QB

Did you hear when they asked Charlie Weiss the first thing he was going to do in KC, he said "fix the QB!" LOLDo people still disagree that the Pats have a system in place that makes QBs look better than they really are?

It's that or Randy Moss who makes QBs look better than they really are.

 

[D'OHtis]

Edwards

After watching Vick and his game breaking speed again, Buffalo didn't go after him why again?? I thought he'd of been a great fit in a Gailey offense.

Lots of bad QB's on the list, but I think Edwards was the worst first, so he gets the vote.

 

[Donnybrook]

Edwards has flaws. I thought he held the ball too long against Miami but he did make some plays. He hit David Nelson for a long gain accross the middle just to see the play get negated by a offensive holding call. He also found Roscoe Parish for a TD on forth down.

Sanchez completed less than 50% of his passed for a 74 yards total. His defense gave him excellant field position. The Jets have a good Oline and a solid running game.

I wonder if Edwards would be as bad as Sanchez if they swapped teams.

 

[billyjohnson]

 

[SSOG]

How this is not Matt Moore or Derek Anderson is baffling.For anyone who watched the Giants game Moore single handly had three straight plays where he almost turned the ball over and actually turned it over in two of those. He also threw three picks in the Giants endzone.

I thought it was a "worst QB in the NFL" poll not a "worst QB in week 1" poll. I voted Edwards, because at least guys like Sanchez and Moore have an excuse. They're both the barest step above rookies. Edwards, on the other hand, is now entering his FOURTH SEASON where he's gotten action as a starter. He's run out of excuses.

 

[Manster]

dirty sanchez

 

[travdogg]

I'd go with Derek Anderson under the logic that Cleveland considered Delhomme to be an upgrade.

ETA: I understand picking Edwards, but the people picking Sanchez are nuts. Its way too early to call Sanchez a bad QB, let alone worst in the NFL. Give him some time.

 

[Harrassment Panda]

At least most of these guys have the "benefit" of relative inexperience. Jason Campbell has been sucking out loud for 5 years now and has never gotten any better.

 

[Nagle2998]

I'd go with Derek Anderson under the logic that Cleveland considered Delhomme to be an upgrade.ETA: I understand picking Edwards, but the people picking Sanchez are nuts. Its way too early to call Sanchez a bad QB, let alone worst in the NFL. Give him some time.

I guess I'm in the nuts area because I voted Sanchez and not just because of game one but because I never thought he was a good Qb and everytime I see him he gets worse. I also think unlike Edwards who has little to no help Sanchez has a pretty good supporting cast. If they Jets had even a decent Qb they would be my SB pick but with Sanchez I just can't see it.

 

[brtdud7]

I have to say Mark Sanchez. Some game logs:

@Buffalo: 10/29, 114 yards, 0 TDs, 5 INTs

Buffalo: 7/15, 104 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT

@NO: 14/27, 138 yards, 0 TD, 3 INT

@NE: 8/21, 136 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT

@ SD in the AFC Div. Round: 12/23, 100 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

@BAL: 10/21, 74 yards

with a god tier o-line, god tier defense, and god-tier run game.

how the #### can you play THIS badly?

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Edwards has flaws. I thought he held the ball too long against Miami but he did make some plays. He hit David Nelson for a long gain accross the middle just to see the play get negated by a offensive holding call. He also found Roscoe Parish for a TD on forth down.

I would hope he would "find" Parrish. It was a busted coverage on a go route for his first read (I think). I don't remember the details of the holding on the Nelson play, but even if I give you that it was a good play, that doesn't make up for 10 bad ones.Also, Edwards is the main reason the Bills' O-Line is so mediocre. They all had to put on an extra 20-25 pounds after camp this year because Trent kept throwing the ball at them thinking they were tight-ends.

 

[ArlingtonTerp]

I'd take all those guys on my team before Jason Campbell.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

Peyton Manning had career QB rating of 71 at the end of his rookie season.

John Elway's was 55.

It's a smidge early to throw Sanchez on the trash heap based on one game against an excellent defense.

And for the folks indicating that Sanchez has a lot of weapons, I'm not sure what receivers they are looking at. That squad as it stands is mediocre AT BEST. Cotchery doesn't scare anybody and Edwards is awful.

 

[Warsteinner]

Regular season: Mark Sanchez

Postseason: Peyton Manning.

 

[Phlash]

Cassel is next to useless in Fantasy Football. Horrible horrible QB

Did you hear when they asked Charlie Weiss the first thing he was going to do in KC, he said "fix the QB!" LOLDo people still disagree that the Pats have a system in place that makes QBs look better than they really are?

It's that or Randy Moss who makes QBs look better than they really are.

Welker and Moss will turn any QB who puts up 3600/26/12 throwing to schlubs into a QB who throws 4400-4800 yards with 28-50 TDs.Both of those guys will also turn a guy who sucks and throws 3000/16/16 into a guy who throws 3700/21/11.

 

[Chaka]

I have to say Mark Sanchez. Some game logsBuffalo: 10/29, 114 yards, 0 TDs, 5 INTsBuffalo: 7/15, 104 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT@NO: 14/27, 138 yards, 0 TD, 3 INT@NE: 8/21, 136 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT@ SD in the AFC Div. Round: 12/23, 100 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT@BAL: 10/21, 74 yardswith a god tier o-line, god tier defense, and god-tier run game.how the #### can you play THIS badly?

Generally speaking all first and second year QBs aren't that statistically productive. This isn't to say Sanchez will morph into a star by year three but I think the expectations were unrealistic to begin with.

 

[latrops]

I had to go with Delhomme....while he has more ability than some of the others, it is amazing that he still has a starting job given that he has become a turnover machine. While the other guys do nothing to help their teams, Delhomme actually does a lot to hurt his team most weeks.

 

[Da Guru]

Edwards, no question. He's either gutless or has no field awareness to get the ball to his receivers. He ain't called Capt. Checkdown for nothin'.

Sanchez has also earned the Captain ranking in checkdowns.

 

[cjack]

I have to say Mark Sanchez. Some game logsBuffalo: 10/29, 114 yards, 0 TDs, 5 INTsBuffalo: 7/15, 104 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT@NO: 14/27, 138 yards, 0 TD, 3 INT@NE: 8/21, 136 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT@ SD in the AFC Div. Round: 12/23, 100 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT@BAL: 10/21, 74 yardswith a god tier o-line, god tier defense, and god-tier run game.how the #### can you play THIS badly?

Generally speaking all first and second year QBs aren't that statistically productive. This isn't to say Sanchez will morph into a star by year three but I think the expectations were unrealistic to begin with.

That's probably true, but how many QBs get to step into the starting gig as a rookie on a team with a great offensive line, excellent rushing attack and top notch defense? Sanchez has everything a QB could ask for, except an elite WR, and he sucks.

 

[SSOG]

Regular season: Mark Sanchez

Postseason: Peyton Manning.

Fun fact: According to PFR, the three best games of Manning's career (and three of the five greatest games any QB has ever played in modern NFL history) all came from in the postseason. Just sayin'... you probably couldn't have been any more spectacularly wrong if you'd tried.

 

[Chaka]

I have to say Mark Sanchez. Some game logsBuffalo: 10/29, 114 yards, 0 TDs, 5 INTsBuffalo: 7/15, 104 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT@NO: 14/27, 138 yards, 0 TD, 3 INT@NE: 8/21, 136 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT@ SD in the AFC Div. Round: 12/23, 100 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT@BAL: 10/21, 74 yardswith a god tier o-line, god tier defense, and god-tier run game.how the #### can you play THIS badly?

Generally speaking all first and second year QBs aren't that statistically productive. This isn't to say Sanchez will morph into a star by year three but I think the expectations were unrealistic to begin with.

That's probably true, but how many QBs get to step into the starting gig as a rookie on a team with a great offensive line, excellent rushing attack and top notch defense? Sanchez has everything a QB could ask for, except an elite WR, and he sucks.

Big Ben is probably the best comparison point and Ben far outperformed Sanchez even though he was actually asked to do a little less.I just think it's a little premature to call the guy the worst QB in the league. At least give him another 15 games before making that call.

 

[CalBear]

Hmm, interesting. No bias was intended. Is there really any doubt these are the bottom feeders of the NFL QBs? Maybe a more logical answer is that over the years, the swiss cheese pac-10 defenses have really inflated the numbers and possible talent of some of these QBs. Ryan Leaf anyone? Maybe some NFL teams should read this thread before jumping in the Locker, Luck, Barkley, etc sweepstakes in the future.

A still more logical answer is that the Pac-10 simply provides a lot of QBs to the NFL; in addition to these five, there's Carson Palmer, Dennis Dixon and Aaron Rodgers. That's a quarter of all the current NFL starters coming from one conference.

 

[billyjohnson]

Hmm, interesting. No bias was intended. Is there really any doubt these are the bottom feeders of the NFL QBs? Maybe a more logical answer is that over the years, the swiss cheese pac-10 defenses have really inflated the numbers and possible talent of some of these QBs. Ryan Leaf anyone? Maybe some NFL teams should read this thread before jumping in the Locker, Luck, Barkley, etc sweepstakes in the future.

A still more logical answer is that the Pac-10 simply provides a lot of QBs to the NFL; in addition to these five, there's Carson Palmer, Dennis Dixon and Aaron Rodgers. That's a quarter of all the current NFL starters coming from one conference.

Thanks CalBear from Berkeley. Always nice to get a little unbiased insight into the wonder that is the PAC-10.

 

[SSOG]

Hmm, interesting. No bias was intended. Is there really any doubt these are the bottom feeders of the NFL QBs? Maybe a more logical answer is that over the years, the swiss cheese pac-10 defenses have really inflated the numbers and possible talent of some of these QBs. Ryan Leaf anyone? Maybe some NFL teams should read this thread before jumping in the Locker, Luck, Barkley, etc sweepstakes in the future.

A still more logical answer is that the Pac-10 simply provides a lot of QBs to the NFL; in addition to these five, there's Carson Palmer, Dennis Dixon and Aaron Rodgers. That's a quarter of all the current NFL starters coming from one conference.

That would be a more logical answer if the distribution of Pac 10 QBs was the same as the distribution of non-pac 10 QBs. If 25% of Pac 10 QBs were in the bottom 25% of NFL QBs, then yeah, you could say "the Pac 10 has more bad QBs because it has more total QBs". In this instance, I see 8 starting QBs from the Pac 10 (if you count Dixon), and 6 of them (75%) are among the bottom 8 (25%) starting QBs in the NFL (the 7 listed + Dixon). It seems that the Pac 10 is radically overrepresented among the truly terrible QBs in the league right now.Now, one possible explanation for this is "sample size" (this is the explanation I would tend to lean towards, by the way). Another possible explanation is "teams are overrating Pac 10 QBs". "There are lots of Pac 10 QBs in the NFL", however, is not a legitimate explanation for why such a ridiculously high percentage of them are truly awful.

 

[cjack]

I have to say Mark Sanchez. Some game logsBuffalo: 10/29, 114 yards, 0 TDs, 5 INTsBuffalo: 7/15, 104 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT@NO: 14/27, 138 yards, 0 TD, 3 INT@NE: 8/21, 136 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT@ SD in the AFC Div. Round: 12/23, 100 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT@BAL: 10/21, 74 yardswith a god tier o-line, god tier defense, and god-tier run game.how the #### can you play THIS badly?

Generally speaking all first and second year QBs aren't that statistically productive. This isn't to say Sanchez will morph into a star by year three but I think the expectations were unrealistic to begin with.

That's probably true, but how many QBs get to step into the starting gig as a rookie on a team with a great offensive line, excellent rushing attack and top notch defense? Sanchez has everything a QB could ask for, except an elite WR, and he sucks.

Big Ben is probably the best comparison point and Ben far outperformed Sanchez even though he was actually asked to do a little less.I just think it's a little premature to call the guy the worst QB in the league. At least give him another 15 games before making that call.

That's fair, we need a larger sample size. But the poll asks us to call it now, so I'm calling it now. I could be proven wrong over the next 15 weeks, but I like my chances. It may be difficult to prove though. He's likely to end up with a better rating than those other guys just because he has a good offensive line keeping the pressure off, and he won't be asked to do much in terms of risky plays. A bad QB on a bad team is going to have to take a lot more chances and risk exposing himself much more.

 

[Aardvarks]

I think Garrard should be included in the poll

 

[ft_ball_fn]

I have to say Mark Sanchez. Some game logsBuffalo: 10/29, 114 yards, 0 TDs, 5 INTsBuffalo: 7/15, 104 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT@NO: 14/27, 138 yards, 0 TD, 3 INT@NE: 8/21, 136 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT@ SD in the AFC Div. Round: 12/23, 100 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT@BAL: 10/21, 74 yardswith a god tier o-line, god tier defense, and god-tier run game.how the #### can you play THIS badly?

Interesting that everyone comments how great NYJ line is.. how great their running game is... but no one has said anything about the quality of their WR's or TE's... which I think aside from Crotchery is lacking (and Jericho isn't a #1). Braylon Edwards drops a boatload of passes (or it seems like he did in CLE)... who else does Sanchez have? Baker at TE? I'm not saying Sanchez is awesome... but like others I voted Edwards because Sanchez is still pretty much a rookie--Edwards has sucked and shows no signs of unsucking. NYJ wanted Sanchez to be a game manager last year--he didn't have to throw for 300 yards... they didn't want him to--they pounded it out on the ground, killed the other teams O with their D, and asked him to not make mistakes--which he did (most of the time). Did he blow it vs NE and NO? How many other QB's have too (Manning, Favre?).. and Sanchez was a Rookie... not sure what you expect from a Rookie but they make mistakes vs good D's. What's Sanchez's W-L record? Playoff games won?

 

[SSOG]

I think Garrard should be included in the poll

Garrard's not a world-beater, but he's a decent enough QB hamstrung by a bad O-line and poor targets in the passing game. He's thoroughly and depressingly average, not brutally terrible. That was a very good Denver pass defense you saw him carving up last Sunday.

 

[Chaka]

I think Garrard should be included in the poll

Garrard's not a world-beater, but he's a decent enough QB hamstrung by a bad O-line and poor targets in the passing game. He's thoroughly and depressingly average, not brutally terrible. That was a very good Denver pass defense you saw him carving up last Sunday.

It was?

 

[SSOG]

I think Garrard should be included in the poll

Garrard's not a world-beater, but he's a decent enough QB hamstrung by a bad O-line and poor targets in the passing game. He's thoroughly and depressingly average, not brutally terrible. That was a very good Denver pass defense you saw him carving up last Sunday.

It was?

Yeah. Bailey's still awesome, and Andre Goodman is a very high-quality CB2. Dawkins and Hill are both old as dirt, but they're both still very good at their jobs. Denver's secondary is one of the better secondaries in the league. They wore down at the end of last season because it's the oldest starting secondary in NFL history, but it's a new season, so they're all fresh and not-worn-down again. Even with the disaster meltdown last year, Denver finished the season 6th against the pass in season-ending DVOA. The defensive meltdown centered around Denver's complete inability to stop the run after week 6, not around any weakness against the pass.