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WR A.J. Brown, PHI (1 Viewer)

Hurts was 22nd in the league in passing attempts, 21st in passing TDs, and 20th in passing yards. They dominated the league, went 14-3, and won the SB. Devonta Smith is still there and is one of the better WR2s in the league. Saquon Barkley is still there and one of, if not the, best RBs in the league (and he is predominantly the reason for the passing numbers changing from what they were in 22/23 to what they were in 24).

AJB a top 5 WR talent in the league, sure, I don't see much debate to be had there. Top 5 fantasy WR? I think you'd need a long term Barkley injury to get those results. We've seen 0 indication the team is changing their formula coming into this season, and why would they coming off a SB win. I'd say WR12 feels just about right for ADP. I wouldn't fight too hard maybe a couple spots higher, but top 5 fantasy finish seems like rose colored glasses to me. It's not a knock against AJB's talent; just an acknowledgement of his situation. I also don't want to be spending a second round pick on a player who likely needs a star teammate to get an injury to open up his ceiling.
The situation is this is the 4th year in a row with a new OC, and he missed 4 starts last year.

If he missed zero games last year, projected off last year's 13 game pace he would have had:

87/1411/9 - Looks top 5 to me or am I off here?

And that is with the offense being run the way last year as you describe it.

Word out of early reports are this run/pass ratio won't be this intense as last year, namely due simply to the fact that Saquon had like 500 total touches.

They know they need to tone that back a little and also, not be predictable and change things up some.

I'd expect nothing less than Top 10 floor for AJB this year.
 
Hurts was 22nd in the league in passing attempts, 21st in passing TDs, and 20th in passing yards. They dominated the league, went 14-3, and won the SB. Devonta Smith is still there and is one of the better WR2s in the league. Saquon Barkley is still there and one of, if not the, best RBs in the league (and he is predominantly the reason for the passing numbers changing from what they were in 22/23 to what they were in 24).

AJB a top 5 WR talent in the league, sure, I don't see much debate to be had there. Top 5 fantasy WR? I think you'd need a long term Barkley injury to get those results. We've seen 0 indication the team is changing their formula coming into this season, and why would they coming off a SB win. I'd say WR12 feels just about right for ADP. I wouldn't fight too hard maybe a couple spots higher, but top 5 fantasy finish seems like rose colored glasses to me. It's not a knock against AJB's talent; just an acknowledgement of his situation. I also don't want to be spending a second round pick on a player who likely needs a star teammate to get an injury to open up his ceiling.
The situation is this is the 4th year in a row with a new OC, and he missed 4 starts last year.

If he missed zero games last year, projected off last year's 13 game pace he would have had:

87/1411/9 - Looks top 5 to me or am I off here?

And that is with the offense being run the way last year as you describe it.

Word out of early reports are this run/pass ratio won't be this intense as last year, namely due simply to the fact that Saquon had like 500 total touches.

They know they need to tone that back a little and also, not be predictable and change things up some.

I'd expect nothing less than Top 10 floor for AJB this year.
You would def know the bolded better than me. Barely pay attention to this kinda stuff about the Steelers, let alone the other teams in the league. If that's the message the organization is openly putting out there in August, I can see some people wanting to bump AJ Brown up a bit.

The rest probably isn't worth debating because people will just be split on them, but I'll try to at least touch on my thoughts on them. I don't do projections and feel like most of them don't make sense to me, but if I took away one thing from them I do like, it's the places that project for 15 games. Because injuries happen, and as unpredictable as most of them are, I think it's safer to project everyone missing a couple. Especially players who've already had multiple seasons where they've missed time.

And I just have a hard time believing the Eagles aren't going to lean heavily on Barkley, even if that is what they are saying right now. We hear teams talk like this and it feels like it's almost as not likely to happen as it is to happen. You feed your best players. Especially when that blueprint just won you a championship.

I'll keep repeating my same disclaimer referencing ADP, it's so early a lot can and probably will change. Half my sources I usually pull from still aren't really updated. But FP right now has AJB WR10 and ADP 18 overall. I think that's fair and pretty much right on the money. But there is not one WR ranked ahead of him right now there that I would put behind him. That's just me so it's not really worth much haha; just where I'm at and not much right now is making me feel like I need to move off that. At the same time, I would not be betting money against AJB finishing top 5, or even be surprised if it happens. He's uber talented. I just like the odds of other guys in front of him better.
 
Hurts was 22nd in the league in passing attempts, 21st in passing TDs, and 20th in passing yards. They dominated the league, went 14-3, and won the SB. Devonta Smith is still there and is one of the better WR2s in the league. Saquon Barkley is still there and one of, if not the, best RBs in the league (and he is predominantly the reason for the passing numbers changing from what they were in 22/23 to what they were in 24).

AJB a top 5 WR talent in the league, sure, I don't see much debate to be had there. Top 5 fantasy WR? I think you'd need a long term Barkley injury to get those results. We've seen 0 indication the team is changing their formula coming into this season, and why would they coming off a SB win. I'd say WR12 feels just about right for ADP. I wouldn't fight too hard maybe a couple spots higher, but top 5 fantasy finish seems like rose colored glasses to me. It's not a knock against AJB's talent; just an acknowledgement of his situation. I also don't want to be spending a second round pick on a player who likely needs a star teammate to get an injury to open up his ceiling.
The situation is this is the 4th year in a row with a new OC, and he missed 4 starts last year.

If he missed zero games last year, projected off last year's 13 game pace he would have had:

87/1411/9 - Looks top 5 to me or am I off here?

And that is with the offense being run the way last year as you describe it.

Word out of early reports are this run/pass ratio won't be this intense as last year, namely due simply to the fact that Saquon had like 500 total touches.

They know they need to tone that back a little and also, not be predictable and change things up some.

I'd expect nothing less than Top 10 floor for AJB this year.
You would def know the bolded better than me. Barely pay attention to this kinda stuff about the Steelers, let alone the other teams in the league. If that's the message the organization is openly putting out there in August, I can see some people wanting to bump AJ Brown up a bit.

The rest probably isn't worth debating because people will just be split on them, but I'll try to at least touch on my thoughts on them. I don't do projections and feel like most of them don't make sense to me, but if I took away one thing from them I do like, it's the places that project for 15 games. Because injuries happen, and as unpredictable as most of them are, I think it's safer to project everyone missing a couple. Especially players who've already had multiple seasons where they've missed time.

And I just have a hard time believing the Eagles aren't going to lean heavily on Barkley, even if that is what they are saying right now. We hear teams talk like this and it feels like it's almost as not likely to happen as it is to happen. You feed your best players. Especially when that blueprint just won you a championship.

I'll keep repeating my same disclaimer referencing ADP, it's so early a lot can and probably will change. Half my sources I usually pull from still aren't really updated. But FP right now has AJB WR10 and ADP 18 overall. I think that's fair and pretty much right on the money. But there is not one WR ranked ahead of him right now there that I would put behind him. That's just me so it's not really worth much haha; just where I'm at and not much right now is making me feel like I need to move off that. At the same time, I would not be betting money against AJB finishing top 5, or even be surprised if it happens. He's uber talented. I just like the odds of other guys in front of him better.
Last I'll say here bc I do believe we are splitting hairs, but yeah, if you truly are going to be a "Top 5" WR any given year, for sure, its best to be avail for most games as possible.

AJB Averages/PPR the last 3 years

22: 18.13
23: 18.23
24: 16.68

So yeah he was certainly down slightly last year, but as you noted, he does get dinged up. Hasn't actually finished in the top 5 the last 3 years truly.

With that said, he was ^still^ an All Pro last year and while he may not be the per se Feature of the offense as he may have been in 22/23, he certainly is still a "best player on the team" that the Eagles will continue to feed.

And if the difference is really just staying healthy and 1.5 PPG, if you can get him at his current value (WR12) it sure seems like a true value.
 
Hurts was 22nd in the league in passing attempts, 21st in passing TDs, and 20th in passing yards. They dominated the league, went 14-3, and won the SB. Devonta Smith is still there and is one of the better WR2s in the league. Saquon Barkley is still there and one of, if not the, best RBs in the league (and he is predominantly the reason for the passing numbers changing from what they were in 22/23 to what they were in 24).

AJB a top 5 WR talent in the league, sure, I don't see much debate to be had there. Top 5 fantasy WR? I think you'd need a long term Barkley injury to get those results. We've seen 0 indication the team is changing their formula coming into this season, and why would they coming off a SB win. I'd say WR12 feels just about right for ADP. I wouldn't fight too hard maybe a couple spots higher, but top 5 fantasy finish seems like rose colored glasses to me. It's not a knock against AJB's talent; just an acknowledgement of his situation. I also don't want to be spending a second round pick on a player who likely needs a star teammate to get an injury to open up his ceiling.
The situation is this is the 4th year in a row with a new OC, and he missed 4 starts last year.

If he missed zero games last year, projected off last year's 13 game pace he would have had:

87/1411/9 - Looks top 5 to me or am I off here?

And that is with the offense being run the way last year as you describe it.

Word out of early reports are this run/pass ratio won't be this intense as last year, namely due simply to the fact that Saquon had like 500 total touches.

They know they need to tone that back a little and also, not be predictable and change things up some.

I'd expect nothing less than Top 10 floor for AJB this year.
You would def know the bolded better than me. Barely pay attention to this kinda stuff about the Steelers, let alone the other teams in the league. If that's the message the organization is openly putting out there in August, I can see some people wanting to bump AJ Brown up a bit.

The rest probably isn't worth debating because people will just be split on them, but I'll try to at least touch on my thoughts on them. I don't do projections and feel like most of them don't make sense to me, but if I took away one thing from them I do like, it's the places that project for 15 games. Because injuries happen, and as unpredictable as most of them are, I think it's safer to project everyone missing a couple. Especially players who've already had multiple seasons where they've missed time.

And I just have a hard time believing the Eagles aren't going to lean heavily on Barkley, even if that is what they are saying right now. We hear teams talk like this and it feels like it's almost as not likely to happen as it is to happen. You feed your best players. Especially when that blueprint just won you a championship.

I'll keep repeating my same disclaimer referencing ADP, it's so early a lot can and probably will change. Half my sources I usually pull from still aren't really updated. But FP right now has AJB WR10 and ADP 18 overall. I think that's fair and pretty much right on the money. But there is not one WR ranked ahead of him right now there that I would put behind him. That's just me so it's not really worth much haha; just where I'm at and not much right now is making me feel like I need to move off that. At the same time, I would not be betting money against AJB finishing top 5, or even be surprised if it happens. He's uber talented. I just like the odds of other guys in front of him better.
Last I'll say here bc I do believe we are splitting hairs, but yeah, if you truly are going to be a "Top 5" WR any given year, for sure, its best to be avail for most games as possible.

AJB Averages/PPR the last 3 years

22: 18.13
23: 18.23
24: 16.68

So yeah he was certainly down slightly last year, but as you noted, he does get dinged up. Hasn't actually finished in the top 5 the last 3 years truly.

With that said, he was ^still^ an All Pro last year and while he may not be the per se Feature of the offense as he may have been in 22/23, he certainly is still a "best player on the team" that the Eagles will continue to feed.

And if the difference is really just staying healthy and 1.5 PPG, if you can get him at his current value (WR12) it sure seems like a true value.
If I were drafting 50 fantasy teams I would 100% target and make sure I had shares of Brown across some of them. And if I wasn't just focusing on the WRs but total ADP as it is now, I would be taking him ahead of some of the other positional players ahead of him. Achane and CMC are two that standout I'd personally be putting AJB ahead of.
 
Hurts was 22nd in the league in passing attempts, 21st in passing TDs, and 20th in passing yards. They dominated the league, went 14-3, and won the SB. Devonta Smith is still there and is one of the better WR2s in the league. Saquon Barkley is still there and one of, if not the, best RBs in the league (and he is predominantly the reason for the passing numbers changing from what they were in 22/23 to what they were in 24).

AJB a top 5 WR talent in the league, sure, I don't see much debate to be had there. Top 5 fantasy WR? I think you'd need a long term Barkley injury to get those results. We've seen 0 indication the team is changing their formula coming into this season, and why would they coming off a SB win. I'd say WR12 feels just about right for ADP. I wouldn't fight too hard maybe a couple spots higher, but top 5 fantasy finish seems like rose colored glasses to me. It's not a knock against AJB's talent; just an acknowledgement of his situation. I also don't want to be spending a second round pick on a player who likely needs a star teammate to get an injury to open up his ceiling.
The situation is this is the 4th year in a row with a new OC, and he missed 4 starts last year.

If he missed zero games last year, projected off last year's 13 game pace he would have had:

87/1411/9 - Looks top 5 to me or am I off here?

And that is with the offense being run the way last year as you describe it.

Word out of early reports are this run/pass ratio won't be this intense as last year, namely due simply to the fact that Saquon had like 500 total touches.

They know they need to tone that back a little and also, not be predictable and change things up some.

I'd expect nothing less than Top 10 floor for AJB this year.
You would def know the bolded better than me. Barely pay attention to this kinda stuff about the Steelers, let alone the other teams in the league. If that's the message the organization is openly putting out there in August, I can see some people wanting to bump AJ Brown up a bit.

The rest probably isn't worth debating because people will just be split on them, but I'll try to at least touch on my thoughts on them. I don't do projections and feel like most of them don't make sense to me, but if I took away one thing from them I do like, it's the places that project for 15 games. Because injuries happen, and as unpredictable as most of them are, I think it's safer to project everyone missing a couple. Especially players who've already had multiple seasons where they've missed time.

And I just have a hard time believing the Eagles aren't going to lean heavily on Barkley, even if that is what they are saying right now. We hear teams talk like this and it feels like it's almost as not likely to happen as it is to happen. You feed your best players. Especially when that blueprint just won you a championship.

I'll keep repeating my same disclaimer referencing ADP, it's so early a lot can and probably will change. Half my sources I usually pull from still aren't really updated. But FP right now has AJB WR10 and ADP 18 overall. I think that's fair and pretty much right on the money. But there is not one WR ranked ahead of him right now there that I would put behind him. That's just me so it's not really worth much haha; just where I'm at and not much right now is making me feel like I need to move off that. At the same time, I would not be betting money against AJB finishing top 5, or even be surprised if it happens. He's uber talented. I just like the odds of other guys in front of him better.
Last I'll say here bc I do believe we are splitting hairs, but yeah, if you truly are going to be a "Top 5" WR any given year, for sure, its best to be avail for most games as possible.

AJB Averages/PPR the last 3 years

22: 18.13
23: 18.23
24: 16.68

So yeah he was certainly down slightly last year, but as you noted, he does get dinged up. Hasn't actually finished in the top 5 the last 3 years truly.

With that said, he was ^still^ an All Pro last year and while he may not be the per se Feature of the offense as he may have been in 22/23, he certainly is still a "best player on the team" that the Eagles will continue to feed.

And if the difference is really just staying healthy and 1.5 PPG, if you can get him at his current value (WR12) it sure seems like a true value.
I tend to agree, but his efficiency was off the charts last year and seems hard for even him in that situation to repeat. I think he needs more targets to repeat last year's numbers. He is going closer to his downside than upside now though
 
I've got him at WR10. He could easily finish top 5. I guess with the right variance, WR1 COULD happen. Just feels like he'd have to be pretty TD heavy.

His 17 game pace would have been: 127 targets, 88 receptions, 1411 yards, 9 TD's.

He's in the tier with Nico, BTJ, London. I put him at the back of it because of the supporting cast. The Eagles obviously love to run with Saquon and Hurts. Hurts take a lot of the TD's on the ground. Devonta Smith is the best #2 option anyone in the tier has. Maybe Hunter can change that.

But as it stands, Brown at WR10 feels unreal.
 
Eagles beat writer Jeff McLane reports A.J. Brown is dealing with a hamstring injury.

We can't even get to preseason games before a slew of injuries have hit all over the place.
 
The Eagles will be forced to throw more which should help boost his numbers

why?

Because more teams will scheme harder to stop Saquon from beating them
Also, last year was a huge outlier for PHI in terms of pass:run ratio. They had a ridiculously high percentage of time they were in positive game scripts. This lopsided ratio is unlikely to be reproduced.

They also sat the starters in the 4th a ton. Wont be able to do that this season
 
This is such a great read. Makes me think he might go nuclear this year.

Such an easy guy to root for.

Great example for the youth to follow.

Go Birds! GO AJ!
Did you actually read it?

There isn’t much to the article at all. I was excited to find out why it was “such a great read” and that maybe there was some Interesting tidbits on WHY you think he might “go nuclear” this year …

Instead it’s just, when asked if he will play, AJ says “hell yea”.

End of story. Did I miss the great reading parts?
 
This is such a great read. Makes me think he might go nuclear this year.

Such an easy guy to root for.

Great example for the youth to follow.

Go Birds! GO AJ!
Did you actually read it?

There isn’t much to the article at all. I was excited to find out why it was “such a great read” and that maybe there was some Interesting tidbits on WHY you think he might “go nuclear” this year …

Instead it’s just, when asked if he will play, AJ says “hell yea”.

End of story. Did I miss the great reading parts?
Yeah I read the whole thing.

The part where he showed up to a gym where ex cons and drug addicts to go, pulling up in a Honda Accord.

The part where he was tapping into his childhood and how a divorce at 12 years old really affected him

How he didn't even play football until 10th grade, but it was like his 3rd favorite sport.

Baseball was his favorite sport, was a really goot CF, drafted by the Padres in 2016 even.

How he is an emotional guy ( I can relate) and is often misunderstood (ditto here)

How he thought winning it all would be satisfying and it lasted just 2 days.

How he realizes he has more work to do to feel satisfied which in the article, if you read it yourself, you'd know would entail him having goals of a Yellow Jacket
and creating The Green Dynasty (my term not his) with the Eagles

So yeah, I read the thing I know reading like 4 pages is a task these days though.

And yeah, all of this adds up to me at least seeing a monster WR that for the most part, is not actually guardable in the NFL, who is going deeper into his mental to challenge himself to become not only the best version of himself, but trying to truly become a GOAT.

Remember all those "OMG He's a cancer" takes in the middle of the season last year when he whipped out a book?

Also remember when no one said anything like that when they won it all in February?

He hasn't forgotten.
 
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This is such a great read. Makes me think he might go nuclear this year.

Such an easy guy to root for.

Great example for the youth to follow.

Go Birds! GO AJ!
Did you actually read it?

There isn’t much to the article at all. I was excited to find out why it was “such a great read” and that maybe there was some Interesting tidbits on WHY you think he might “go nuclear” this year …

Instead it’s just, when asked if he will play, AJ says “hell yea”.

End of story. Did I miss the great reading parts?
Yeah I read the whole thing.

I think the misunderstanding is because you quoted the wrong article. You're talking about the one named "Eagles A.J. Brown wants more for himself, and for others" :-)
 
This is such a great read. Makes me think he might go nuclear this year.

Such an easy guy to root for.

Great example for the youth to follow.

Go Birds! GO AJ!
Did you actually read it?

There isn’t much to the article at all. I was excited to find out why it was “such a great read” and that maybe there was some Interesting tidbits on WHY you think he might “go nuclear” this year …

Instead it’s just, when asked if he will play, AJ says “hell yea”.

End of story. Did I miss the great reading parts?
Yeah I read the whole thing.

I think the misunderstanding is because you quoted the wrong article. You're talking about the one named "Eagles A.J. Brown wants more for himself, and for others" :-)
LMAO, ah I f***** up.

My bad peoples.

Premise remains the same, just different reasoning

AJ is going nuclear this season.

It starts tomorrow.

I notated in the game thread why I like this matchup of AJB/Devonta vs Diggs/Bland.

But I will repeat my bad, i fd up!!
 
This is such a great read. Makes me think he might go nuclear this year.

Such an easy guy to root for.

Great example for the youth to follow.

Go Birds! GO AJ!
Did you actually read it?

There isn’t much to the article at all. I was excited to find out why it was “such a great read” and that maybe there was some Interesting tidbits on WHY you think he might “go nuclear” this year …

Instead it’s just, when asked if he will play, AJ says “hell yea”.

End of story. Did I miss the great reading parts?
Yeah I read the whole thing.

I think the misunderstanding is because you quoted the wrong article. You're talking about the one named "Eagles A.J. Brown wants more for himself, and for others" :-)
LMAO, ah I f***** up.

My bad peoples.

Premise remains the same, just different reasoning

AJ is going nuclear this season.

It starts tomorrow.

I notated in the game thread why I like this matchup of AJB/Devonta vs Diggs/Bland.

But I will repeat my bad, i fd up!!
Haha no worries brother, happens to the best of us. I’ll now check out the correct article.
 
This is such a great read. Makes me think he might go nuclear this year.

Such an easy guy to root for.

Great example for the youth to follow.

Go Birds! GO AJ!
Did you actually read it?

There isn’t much to the article at all. I was excited to find out why it was “such a great read” and that maybe there was some Interesting tidbits on WHY you think he might “go nuclear” this year …

Instead it’s just, when asked if he will play, AJ says “hell yea”.

End of story. Did I miss the great reading parts?
Yeah I read the whole thing.

I think the misunderstanding is because you quoted the wrong article. You're talking about the one named "Eagles A.J. Brown wants more for himself, and for others" :-)
LMAO, ah I f***** up.

My bad peoples.

Premise remains the same, just different reasoning

AJ is going nuclear this season.

It starts tomorrow.

I notated in the game thread why I like this matchup of AJB/Devonta vs Diggs/Bland.

But I will repeat my bad, i fd up!!
Haha no worries brother, happens to the best of us. I’ll now check out the correct article.
Its a good read. I promise lmaoooo
 
:cry:

Not the start I was looking for when i paired Hurts with AJB in a couple leagues
I knew last season with Barkley on board that the offense had changed, AJB missed a couple games, just thought he still had a 2nd round grade on him but he's not
Really not much better than other WRs you can snag in the 4th round like Devante Adams who has been falling of late
Anyone who still has a draft this weekend before kickoff, this is going to be a huge red flag
 
Nothing in the Eagles passing game looked very good last night.
And Dallas could not get on top of them to force the Eagles into passing more or take some shots down field outside the hashes, that never happened
Dump offs to Barkley and Goedert 2-3 yds from the LOS in the middle of the field, very short passes all night long

And yet Philly wins the game so why would they change a thing?
 
Nothing in the Eagles passing game looked very good last night.
And Dallas could not get on top of them to force the Eagles into passing more or take some shots down field outside the hashes, that never happened
Dump offs to Barkley and Goedert 2-3 yds from the LOS in the middle of the field, very short passes all night long

And yet Philly wins the game so why would they change a thing?

They only scored 24. Yes got the win, but the fumble by Sanders at FG range that would have cut it to 1 point (btw Blue owners he will most likely be the RB2 next week) + Ceedee drops basically gave them the win.

Can't see a successful formula where Goedert is the WR1 and they give Barkley near 400 touches again back to back years.
 
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Nothing in the Eagles passing game looked very good last night.
And Dallas could not get on top of them to force the Eagles into passing more or take some shots down field outside the hashes, that never happened
Dump offs to Barkley and Goedert 2-3 yds from the LOS in the middle of the field, very short passes all night long

And yet Philly wins the game so why would they change a thing?

They only scored 24. Yes got the win, but the fumble by Sanders at FG range that would have cut it to 1 point (btw Blue owners he will most likely be the RB2 next week) + Ceedee drops basically gave them the win.

Can't see a successful formula where Goedert is the WR1 and they give Barkley near 500 touches again back to back years.
I agree with you Steel but this also feels like last season as well, both WRs were expected to do big things and that did not happen
The offense almost solely runs thru Saquon and Hurts legs with just enough passing sprinkled in to keep the defense honest
 
I think the reality with AJB though is that this is now a running football team. And they were kind of alluding to this on the broadcast, but with the tush push (and Barkley)...the goal for PHI can kind of be gain 7-8 yards on 1st/2nd down...and feel pretty comfortable that they can get a 1st down because for most of the field, they'll go for it.

In his first season with the Eagles...they had a combined 580 pass attempts/sacks and AJB was a central figure in that approach with 145/88/1496/11 line. Last year that number was 493...a 15% decline.

He's still a critical part of that offense, but the fantasy upside does feel capped at low end WR1/high end WR2.
 
Nothing in the Eagles passing game looked very good last night.
And Dallas could not get on top of them to force the Eagles into passing more or take some shots down field outside the hashes, that never happened
Dump offs to Barkley and Goedert 2-3 yds from the LOS in the middle of the field, very short passes all night long

And yet Philly wins the game so why would they change a thing?

They only scored 24. Yes got the win, but the fumble by Sanders at FG range that would have cut it to 1 point (btw Blue owners he will most likely be the RB2 next week) + Ceedee drops basically gave them the win.

Can't see a successful formula where Goedert is the WR1 and they give Barkley near 500 touches again back to back years.
I agree with you Steel but this also feels like last season as well, both WRs were expected to do big things and that did not happen
The offense almost solely runs thru Saquon and Hurts legs with just enough passing sprinkled in to keep the defense honest

This is basically their preseason game for the WRs.
Cowboys did a decent job as they had all preseason to plan week 1.
I assure you, they will open it up. It is unprecedented to give Barkley another 345 carry season.

I won't get too much into the historical reference. The last RB to get back to back 300 carry seasons was Derrick Henry 2019-2020. And then 2021 he missed 8 games due to injury.
Barkley just signed a 2 year extention on March 2025 they will want him around for this SB window through 2028.
 
I think the reality with AJB though is that this is now a running football team. And they were kind of alluding to this on the broadcast, but with the tush push (and Barkley)...the goal for PHI can kind of be gain 7-8 yards on 1st/2nd down...and feel pretty comfortable that they can get a 1st down because for most of the field, they'll go for it.

In his first season with the Eagles...they had a combined 580 pass attempts/sacks and AJB was a central figure in that approach with 145/88/1496/11 line. Last year that number was 493...a 15% decline.

He's still a critical part of that offense, but the fantasy upside does feel capped at low end WR1/high end WR2.

Translation...right now he is a better real football player than fantasy player.
 
Nothing in the Eagles passing game looked very good last night.
And Dallas could not get on top of them to force the Eagles into passing more or take some shots down field outside the hashes, that never happened
Dump offs to Barkley and Goedert 2-3 yds from the LOS in the middle of the field, very short passes all night long

And yet Philly wins the game so why would they change a thing?

They only scored 24. Yes got the win, but the fumble by Sanders at FG range that would have cut it to 1 point (btw Blue owners he will most likely be the RB2 next week) + Ceedee drops basically gave them the win.

Can't see a successful formula where Goedert is the WR1 and they give Barkley near 500 touches again back to back years.
I agree with you Steel but this also feels like last season as well, both WRs were expected to do big things and that did not happen
The offense almost solely runs thru Saquon and Hurts legs with just enough passing sprinkled in to keep the defense honest

This is basically their preseason game for the WRs.
Cowboys did a decent job as they had all preseason to plan week 1.
I assure you, they will open it up. It is unprecedented to give Barkley another 345 carry season.

I won't get too much into the historical reference. The last RB to get back to back 300 carry seasons was Derrick Henry 2019-2020. And then 2021 he missed 8 games due to injury.
Barkley just signed a 2 year extention on March 2025 they will want him around for this SB window through 2028.
They used Shipley and Dillon quite a bit in last night's game. Often in the middle of drives, with Barkley getting the work at the beginning and end. Only in crunch time was Barkley on the field for every snap.

That could mean they intend to be as run-heavy as last year, but Barkley will get fewer of those runs.
 
For the first time since at least 2022, **A.J. Brown didn't win a single route last night** (0.0% separation win rate) and had a negative (-0.065 average separation score)


Yeah, what’s up with that. I’m no expert but I never really saw anything last night from AJ and I was keying on him all night as he was in my lineup. It didn’t seem like Hurts looked his way very often nor did Hurts ever seem to have a lot of time. The Eagles passing game seemed boring and nothing was ever really brewing with AJ.
 
I highly doubt anyone is actually selling him after week one, that would be incredibly unwise, but it’s certainly a concerning start.

Personally pairing this with taking a value proposition bet on CMC, to say the first 24rs of football this year have been nerve racking would be and understatement.
 
Nothing in the Eagles passing game looked very good last night.
And Dallas could not get on top of them to force the Eagles into passing more or take some shots down field outside the hashes, that never happened
Dump offs to Barkley and Goedert 2-3 yds from the LOS in the middle of the field, very short passes all night long

And yet Philly wins the game so why would they change a thing?

They only scored 24. Yes got the win, but the fumble by Sanders at FG range that would have cut it to 1 point (btw Blue owners he will most likely be the RB2 next week) + Ceedee drops basically gave them the win.

Can't see a successful formula where Goedert is the WR1 and they give Barkley near 500 touches again back to back years.
I agree with you Steel but this also feels like last season as well, both WRs were expected to do big things and that did not happen
The offense almost solely runs thru Saquon and Hurts legs with just enough passing sprinkled in to keep the defense honest

This is basically their preseason game for the WRs.
Cowboys did a decent job as they had all preseason to plan week 1.
I assure you, they will open it up. It is unprecedented to give Barkley another 345 carry season.

I won't get too much into the historical reference. The last RB to get back to back 300 carry seasons was Derrick Henry 2019-2020. And then 2021 he missed 8 games due to injury.
Barkley just signed a 2 year extention on March 2025 they will want him around for this SB window through 2028.
They used Shipley and Dillon quite a bit in last night's game. Often in the middle of drives, with Barkley getting the work at the beginning and end. Only in crunch time was Barkley on the field for every snap.

That could mean they intend to be as run-heavy as last year, but Barkley will get fewer of those runs.
I thought the same thing. Barkley is great, but the coaches have to know he can't put up 2 consecutive years of 400+ total touches. And Shipley and Hurts are going to get plenty of rushing yards and TDs if last night's game is any indication.
 
Hayden Winks
Just watched A.J. Brown. Entire DAL gameplan was making sure he stayed underneath. He's the best WR vs. man coverage per route (elite on 9s and slants), and they played 0 man coverage snaps. Just didn't have many opps here.

Also, didn't really sprint full speed much. Hammy?

@RobLorge
AJB a buy low for you or you staying away?

Hayden Winks
the reality is he won't see the volume of the other top 15 fantasy WRs. if you're okay living with the sub 5 FP games but finishing the season as the WR12 or so, then yes. not for everyone. i get that.
 
Let's look at some film cause that's usually where you find the "WHY". @Faust post of Hayden's comments on the Dal gameplan almost nailed it.
Please take a look. Also for those who are able to re-stream the entire game, look at only the plays when Eagles were on offense.
All this talk about separation, no separation-it really didn't matter.

Dallas did not assign a "spy" on Hurts throughout the entire game.
What kind of crap *** defense gameplan is this by the Cowboys? Matched up vs a running QB and you don't assign a spy? Of course Hurts will see open lanes and run all day.

https://youtu.be/nzcLH5xtp-k?feature=shared
 
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