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WR Amon-Ra St. Brown, DET (1 Viewer)
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
I bet if you look at all the overall WR1s over the the last decade, other than maybe Kupp, they all had games worse than 6/71/1. Don't put too much into this game just because it was the 1st.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Critical 3rd and 1 at midfield, game winning touchdown drive, what does Ben Johnson call? As the teams huddle up we see
Detroit lines up in a tight power formation, offset I, with 202 pound ARSB lined up at FB to the right of Goff, who is under center. Relatively simple blocking concept in which all the down lineman slide left; the C and LG take out the 4-I RDT, RG pushes the 3-tech LDT inside, RT Penei Sewell shoots the gap to look for a second level defender to clear out, TE Brock Wright - on the right side where the run is planned - blocks down to direct EDGE George Karlaftis (6'4" 263) to his right, passing him off to ARSB, who delivers a crisp block and stands him up, then Wright comes back to clean it up by pushing the off-balance LDE out past the hashmarks. No chance Karlaftis is coming anywhere near David Montgomery.
first down
Not an amazing play but how many teams are asking their 100+ catch a year slot receiver to deliver a kick out block on the EDGE?
This team is built different. Amon-Ra is different. Whatever it takes, man.
- Lions have 11 personnel (1 RB, 1 TE, 3 WR)
- Chiefs have mirrored the personnel with a 4-2-5 nickel package
Detroit lines up in a tight power formation, offset I, with 202 pound ARSB lined up at FB to the right of Goff, who is under center. Relatively simple blocking concept in which all the down lineman slide left; the C and LG take out the 4-I RDT, RG pushes the 3-tech LDT inside, RT Penei Sewell shoots the gap to look for a second level defender to clear out, TE Brock Wright - on the right side where the run is planned - blocks down to direct EDGE George Karlaftis (6'4" 263) to his right, passing him off to ARSB, who delivers a crisp block and stands him up, then Wright comes back to clean it up by pushing the off-balance LDE out past the hashmarks. No chance Karlaftis is coming anywhere near David Montgomery.
first down
Not an amazing play but how many teams are asking their 100+ catch a year slot receiver to deliver a kick out block on the EDGE?
This team is built different. Amon-Ra is different. Whatever it takes, man.
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MCFootball123
Footballguy
I've always appreciated his blocking effort - it's been consistent too since day 1. St got that dog in him.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
Source? I only saw that he had a cramping issue.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
The Lions said he had cramping.
They did tape up his shoe, so maybe a toe thing?
The only source I found for turf toe is a site called “draft diamonds” which I’ve never heard of before (and has more ads than an AOL browser)
This is PFN - says cramps
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They did tape up his shoe, so maybe a toe thing?
The only source I found for turf toe is a site called “draft diamonds” which I’ve never heard of before (and has more ads than an AOL browser)
This is PFN - says cramps
Amon-Ra St. Brown Injury Update: What We Know About the Detroit Lions WR
Amon-Ra St. Brown is the Lions' best offensive player, but he suffered an injury on Sunday. What's the latest on the Detroit wide receiver?
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Just found this. He mentions a tweet from Hayden Winks who I follow but I don't see the tweet in his feed:The Lions said he had cramping.
They did tape up his shoe, so maybe a toe thing?
The only source I found for turf toe is a site called “draft diamonds” which I’ve never heard of before (and has more ads than an AOL browser)
This is PFN - says cramps
Amon-Ra St. Brown Injury Update: What We Know About the Detroit Lions WR
Amon-Ra St. Brown is the Lions' best offensive player, but he suffered an injury on Sunday. What's the latest on the Detroit wide receiver?
Amon-Ra St. Brown - Concerning Toe Injury?
Welcome to TFD!Dr. Morse explains turf toe injuries, recovery process, and offers insights on Amon-Ra St. Brown's toe injury.This video is sponsored by H3AL....
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Hot Sauce Guy
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Hot Sauce Guy
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Ok, but he went back and played the rest of the game, so…
As I understand it there are degrees of TT, and it’s largely about pain tolerance.
Seems if he went back out and played on it. It’s not anything to worry about?
Hope so. Losing him and Montgomery and possibly Aijuk would be ...problematic.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Aiyuk also came back and played the rest of the game after his injury. He would have had a monster day if not for a badly overthrown ball when he was wide open, too.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Winks tweet
Betz tweet of ARSB getting the steel plate put in his cleat & taping his toe
he was in and out after the injury bc of cramps
did not catch any passes after the injury
played 74% of snaps v 94% Week 1
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Dan Campbell did not get any questions about ARSB during his presser today, only spoke about James Houston, Hal Vaitai and Montgomery injuries to open
Betz tweet of ARSB getting the steel plate put in his cleat & taping his toe
he was in and out after the injury bc of cramps
did not catch any passes after the injury
played 74% of snaps v 94% Week 1
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Dan Campbell did not get any questions about ARSB during his presser today, only spoke about James Houston, Hal Vaitai and Montgomery injuries to open
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
If he was able to play through it I’m assuming it’s minor compared to the injury that knocked TMc out of practice, then prevented him from playing game 1 of the season.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
won't know until we check the Wednesday report
The Lions made a flurry of moves today, 4 players to IR, 3 practice squad guys signed to the active roster, brought back G Dan Skipper to practice squad, worked out 7 guys (1 active roster and 2 practice squad slots to be filled.) Ignoring what they say but paying attention to what they do, they moved a G and RB to the active roster. IOW, Monty and RG Hal Vaitai are likely multi-game injuries but not serious enough for IR (min 4 games.)
He'll play through it IMO.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
AMON-RA ST. BROWN IS A MODERN THROWBACK - WK 2 FILM STUDY
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
St. Brown won't practice today and is day-to-day. Turf toe.
Dan Campbell said they’ll put a steel plate in the other cleat to balance him out.
Dan Campbell said they’ll put a steel plate in the other cleat to balance him out.
How somebody can play with a steel anything in their shoe is beyond me.
Hope he tuffs it out. Need him.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
He got dinged up last year, this is no bueno for the Lions or FF.
I don't remember him missing games last year?
Bozeman Bruiser
Footballguy
According to the stats page he didn't miss any games but he had good chunks of ~3 games where he either played very minimally or was just a decoy. I believe he played through an ankle sprain that spanned several games early in the season and also missed a half or 3 quarters of a game due to the Tua Concussion Protocol (he didn't have a concussion)
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
He missed the Seattle game, 10 snaps v NE, bye week - all while dealing with a HAS. In Dallas he was sent off after 20 snaps bc someone upstairs said he showed signs of being concussed. He didn’t pass the concussion protocol on the sideline. IIRC he cleared the protocols midweek & was pretty mad he got pulled bc he said was never concussed.
Anyway…..over a 4-week span (3 g) he only played 30 snaps.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
They put up 45 v Seattle when he was out. 0 and 6 points in the two games he had limited snaps. Honestly the entire offense is predicated on feeding him targets, but this year they have LaPorta who looks like he’ll be the chain mover if ARSB is out or at 75%.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
On his podcast today (recorded yesterday) he told his brother about the cramping & said “everyone could check with Coach Campbell on any other injuries.”
Hey, I finished the game didn’t I? Everything’s Gucci.
Hey, I finished the game didn’t I? Everything’s Gucci.
He actually said that last part?
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
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He doesn't seem concerned.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Dude is tough as nails and plays through injury but I do remember that crappy injury run he has last year. Hope he stays effective but I can see YPR dipping.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
His game is predicated on his quick feet and ability to change direction, hopefully the severity of the toe injury is low. If not, I would expect a drop in production.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I’m hopeful for a couple reasons.
1) Both Amon-Ra on his podcast recorded Tuesday and MCDC in his weekly presser were making light hearted jokes. Maybe means nothing as they both lean toward being glass half full fellas but if it was serous I think we’d see more tells.
2) The Lions medical staff has a lot of subject matter expertise in toe maintenance. Nearly every team has phenomenal resources but Ragnow’s inoperable toe might be something they’ve gleaned insight from. Back in June the Pro Bowl C was really depressed about the prospect of managing pain the entire season. They have him on a regimen of various therapeutic routines and scheduled rest.
Again, may mean nothing. Every injury is unique, Ragnow doesn’t have the exact same injury and vastly different bodies and positional demands. Each player / injury is ICB.
Def share your concerns that this is the worst type of injury for St Brown bc his quick, decisive cuts are fundamental to how he succeeds.
Bozeman Bruiser
Footballguy
Trending in the right direction, back at practice today after missing Wednesday.
Amon-Ra St. Brown (toe) returned to Lions practice Thursday.
St. Brown will almost certainly be listed as “limited,” but it’s the step in the right direction he needed after sitting out Wednesday’s session. It seems like St. Brown is gearing up to play at less than 100 percent health, perhaps for some time. Since so much of his fantasy value is derived from compiling and stacking up receptions, we would still trust St. Brown as a WR1 against the Falcons even in a diminished state.
Amon-Ra St. Brown (toe) returned to Lions practice Thursday.
St. Brown will almost certainly be listed as “limited,” but it’s the step in the right direction he needed after sitting out Wednesday’s session. It seems like St. Brown is gearing up to play at less than 100 percent health, perhaps for some time. Since so much of his fantasy value is derived from compiling and stacking up receptions, we would still trust St. Brown as a WR1 against the Falcons even in a diminished state.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Friday media availability
Gonna wear a plate to protect his toe but sounds like he got lucky - toe sprain, not turf toe, should be good to
Fire 'em up, smoke 'em if you got 'em
Justin Rogers
Gonna wear a plate to protect his toe but sounds like he got lucky - toe sprain, not turf toe, should be good to
Fire 'em up, smoke 'em if you got 'em
Justin Rogers
From everything we are hearing in Detroit, he's going to play.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Not from anything that is publicly known.
He’ll have a plate in his cleat, but avoided a serious injury. It is a toe sprain that will be wrapped but he got in two full practices Thi & Fri.
Told reporters Friday he played with a toe plate once or twice at Mater Dei and doesn’t think that will limit him.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Because outside of coming home and finding your house has been robbed getting a zero in your fantasy lineup is the worst thing in life. That fear is real. Ha ha
the spanker
Footballguy
Thanks...whew....
Bozeman Bruiser
Footballguy
ESPN dropped the Q next to his name.
Full go. 10 rec/100 yds/1 td incoming for the Sun God.
Full go. 10 rec/100 yds/1 td incoming for the Sun God.
The Frankman
Footballguy
That must be the most comfortable toe plate in shoe history. The thought was he'd be a little gimped and limited, so maybe more targets go to Gibbs/Reynolds. That wasn't close to being the case.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
We need more of this kind of FUD* over the next week while I piece together a trade with the ARSB manager
*fear uncertainty doubt
Amon-Ra is the Sun; everything orbits around him, the entire offense is predicated on his utilization
FarFromHome
Footballguy
As a St Brown owner I have zero concern about Williamson. My biggest concern is for the first time since like 1988 the Lions defense looks good.
