WR Brandon Aiyuk, SF (5 Viewers)

[jm192]

I forgot about Allen Robinson twice with Blake Bortles and Mitch Trunisky.

Now do Terry McLaurin

You do it. I am making the case for him. I said I might move him up. I haven't made a decision yet because the deal isn't done.

Aiyuk is a way better receiver THAN Mclaurin. Hope that helps.

I don't think Aiyuk is as talented as OBJ, Brandon Marshall or Steve Smith. Yet, you sure counted those. So the talent levels don't have to be equal when the comparison favors Aiyuk, but we sure care about it when it undermines "making the case" for him.

It's a very disingenuous argument. It's certainly not compelling.

Then don't reply, you don't get to tell me my argument isn't sincere.

It's not.

You're cherry picking the good situations that agree with you.
You're ignoring the bad ones that don't agree with you.

That's a bad faith argument.

That doesn't do anyone any good or help anyone be better at fantasy football.

If you want to ignore the facts and just say "I like Aiyuk and I don't care what you say" then just say that. Stop throwing out bad faith arguments and acting like you're backing up your view point with facts.

It isn't bad faith when other wrs have done it. It means it is possible. Just say you hate Aiyuk and move on.

No no no.

"I could easily see him getting 160 targets, 100 catches and 1400 yards." That isn't "In the best case scenario, it COULD happen." Saying you could easily see it implies it's likely.

Now "Well I mean, others have done it, so it could happen."

Yet another bad faith argument.

 

[Wingnut]

CMC is due for another season ending IR....Deebo is due to miss half the season again...The clock strikes midnight on Purdy....Rams win the division the next 3 years...Shanahan leaves in disgrace

I predict you'll be batting .000 with these predictions wishes.

 

[Wingnut]

Rapoport:

From Inside Training Camp Live: The latest on the Brandon Aiyuk, as the #49ers continue active trade discussions with the Steelers, Browns, and Patriots, at the least. All three teams are still in it.

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[Hot Sauce Guy]

doubt he gets traded to the Pats because I don’t think he’d want to play in New England. But I’ve been wrong many times before.

I’m starting to believe he’ll go to whatever team pays him $30M

And I hope it’s the Pats, and his stats take a nosedive and he hates the freezing weather because he’s a greedy selfish tool.

That may be the Niner fan bitterness talking.

Funny, I was just thinking that the Niners are likely going to regret treating him like a little *****.

CMC is due for another season ending IR, he had what, 2 of them after his monster year at Carolina? Deebo is due to miss half the season again, seems he can never stay healthy for too long. The clock strikes midnight on Purdy's magical run. Rams win the division the next 3 years. Shanahan leaves in disgrace, never sniffing his first ring ever again.

Nominated: worst take on this topic.

 

[Terpman22]

doubt he gets traded to the Pats because I don’t think he’d want to play in New England. But I’ve been wrong many times before.

I’m starting to believe he’ll go to whatever team pays him $30M

And I hope it’s the Pats, and his stats take a nosedive and he hates the freezing weather because he’s a greedy selfish tool.

That may be the Niner fan bitterness talking.

Funny, I was just thinking that the Niners are likely going to regret treating him like a little *****.

CMC is due for another season ending IR, he had what, 2 of them after his monster year at Carolina? Deebo is due to miss half the season again, seems he can never stay healthy for too long. The clock strikes midnight on Purdy's magical run. Rams win the division the next 3 years. Shanahan leaves in disgrace, never sniffing his first ring ever again.

Nominated: worst take on this topic.

Dude drunk on the haterade for sure lol

 

[nittanylion]

I think the 9'ers are handling this just fine. I don't think they misread anything - I'm pretty sure they understand the market quite well. They have a better idea of what Aiyuk is/isn't than anyone else - they drafted and developed him, and their calculation of what he is compared to the caliber of WR, the financial situation and franchise short-and-long term goals of the Teams that are paying them, is all being taken into account.

I've been very staunchly in the camp of 'a deal gets done and he stays with SF', because of the 49'ers track record with these things, and the fact that they are in the ultimate unique position of having a rock solid Team on both sides of the football being helmed at a high level by a QB who was Mr. Irrelevant, and who is on his rookie deal. Why not keep as many of the key pieces of the band together while enjoying that kind of luck?!!

...but the more I think about it, Aiyuk might be the most expendable of the key offensive pieces the offense runs through. McCaffrey is a unicorn, Deebo and Kittle are somewhat unicorns. Aiyuk is a very good-to-great WR, but I don't think that offense misses a beat if they sub him out for an Amari Cooper-caliber WR.
The other thing they have in their corner is Kyle Shanahan, who, IMHO, is one of the most innovative offensive minds in pro football. When you have a QB who is capable of running your offense at an optimum level, and THREE unicorn/matchup nightmare players at your disposal in CMC/Deebo/Kittle, I'm willing to bet a mind like Shanahan's is capable of figuring something out at X receiver that will still cause nightmares for opposing D-Coords.

Aikuk and his camp are the issue. I don't think they have the self-awareness to fathom that as good a WR as he is, that offense is, IMHO, at a much bigger disadvantage without CMC/Deebo/Kittle, than they are without an Alpha X.

This biz with the Browns/Amari actually has me excited. Screw Aiyuk, I'd love to see Amari Cooper on the field with those other guys, and what they could make happen.
Really hope this goes down.

 

[Joe Bryant]

He’s not uncannily accurate. He allegedly throws spaghetti against the wall, and when 1 noodle sticks he deletes the 20 noodles that didn’t.

At least according to the more seasoned veteran reporters who’ve called him out for it.

Though he is oddly adamant about the Steelers.

Then again, he also has said the deal was done yesterday, then reportedly deleted those tweets when it wasn’t.

Totally disagree. He had the NFL.com and Sirius broadcasts shook at the draft with picks before they knew them.

There are plenty of guys out there doing fake stuff.

They'll never admit it of course but this guy has the ear of serious reporters.

But totally disregard him if you like.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Anyways, even if it's all true, I see him staying in SF, they'll give a slightly better offer imo and he signs.

If they are at the point where we are seeing actual trade agreements, then I think that ship has sailed. (My opinion is assuming that the reports from @MaioccoNBCS are correct.)

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Maybe the guarantees are close, and Aiyuk will see that, and stay, but I think if SF was going to give him a market value contract (or close to it), then it never would have gotten this far.

I listened to Maiocco's podcast last night. According to his sources, which are certainly with the team, Aiyuk hasn't ever given them an actual counteroffer. This recent public disclosure was, at least in part, an effort to get Aiyuk to do something as the team is getting frustrated with the fact that they are burning training camp time and not making any progress. I don't think that makes it unlikely that he gets traded, but this seems like it's been a highly unusual negotiation.

Thank you. Maiocco is a guy to listen to this.

 

[Jail]

I forgot about Allen Robinson twice with Blake Bortles and Mitch Trunisky.

Now do Terry McLaurin

You do it. I am making the case for him. I said I might move him up. I haven't made a decision yet because the deal isn't done.

Aiyuk is a way better receiver THAN Mclaurin. Hope that helps.

I don't think Aiyuk is as talented as OBJ, Brandon Marshall or Steve Smith. Yet, you sure counted those. So the talent levels don't have to be equal when the comparison favors Aiyuk, but we sure care about it when it undermines "making the case" for him.

It's a very disingenuous argument. It's certainly not compelling.

Then don't reply, you don't get to tell me my argument isn't sincere.

It's not.

You're cherry picking the good situations that agree with you.
You're ignoring the bad ones that don't agree with you.

That's a bad faith argument.

That doesn't do anyone any good or help anyone be better at fantasy football.

If you want to ignore the facts and just say "I like Aiyuk and I don't care what you say" then just say that. Stop throwing out bad faith arguments and acting like you're backing up your view point with facts.

It's funny that you are saying he is cherry picking when you keep coming back to Moore. I'd say Moore is the more rare one. Usually a player as good as Moore would get more targets.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I wonder what Purdy wants to happen? He surely knows his big extension is tied to this Ayiuk situation.

That's a good question. Any SF insiders have a take there? I'm sure he wants Aiyuk to stay but wondering if there's more detail.

 

[Joe Bryant]

And please - drop the bad faith accusations.

Let's keep this as a good place to discuss the NFL. Say what you think and why you say it. Leave the shots at other posters out of it.

 

[massraider]

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If there is any doubts I have, it's about the players involved. It is very rare you resign a guy, and trade him. This ain't the NBA

 

[jm192]

I forgot about Allen Robinson twice with Blake Bortles and Mitch Trunisky.

Now do Terry McLaurin

You do it. I am making the case for him. I said I might move him up. I haven't made a decision yet because the deal isn't done.

Aiyuk is a way better receiver THAN Mclaurin. Hope that helps.

I don't think Aiyuk is as talented as OBJ, Brandon Marshall or Steve Smith. Yet, you sure counted those. So the talent levels don't have to be equal when the comparison favors Aiyuk, but we sure care about it when it undermines "making the case" for him.

It's a very disingenuous argument. It's certainly not compelling.

Then don't reply, you don't get to tell me my argument isn't sincere.

It's not.

You're cherry picking the good situations that agree with you.
You're ignoring the bad ones that don't agree with you.

That's a bad faith argument.

That doesn't do anyone any good or help anyone be better at fantasy football.

If you want to ignore the facts and just say "I like Aiyuk and I don't care what you say" then just say that. Stop throwing out bad faith arguments and acting like you're backing up your view point with facts.

It's funny that you are saying he is cherry picking when you keep coming back to Moore. I'd say Moore is the more rare one. Usually a player as good as Moore would get more targets.

I also offered up McLaurin?

Who was the #1 for the NYG last year? How did they do?

How about Garrett Wilson? Bad team. Terrible QB situation. Has he been an elite WR so far?

Broncos were pretty bad last year. Sutton DID have 10 TD's, but the targets, receptions, and yards were so few he still finished as WR36. Jeudy was a nothing.

Drake London was a really talented WR on a bad offense with a bad QB situation. Elite WR?

We're going back to the days of Blake Bortles and Muhsin Muhammad to make the case for Aiyuk succeeding. I'm giving you players from 2023.

 

[Boston]

IMO if he were to go the Pats his numbers would be closely tied into how good their D is…I think you can easily see scenarios where the Pats D is really solid like last year or it takes a step backwards without BB’s mind on the sideline…if it is good I would think the Pats play a more conservative style of offense just trying to keep games close which wouldn’t be the best for Aiyuk…if the D isn’t as good they could be in a spot where they have to throw far more than they would probably like and Aiyuk could be taking advantage of a lot of garbage time situations and put up some pretty good numbers.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Totally disagree. He had the NFL.com and Sirius broadcasts shook at the draft with picks before they knew them.

There are plenty of guys out there doing fake stuff.

They'll never admit it of course but this guy has the ear of serious reporters.

But totally disregard him if you like.

Ok, fair - I just saw a lot of folks I respect point to him having a spotty track record, but if you’re willing to stake your reputation on him, that means a lot. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Joe Bryant]

If you're Brandon Aiyuk, how much more money per year would you have to make in PIT, CLE or NE to leave SF?

Lots of talk about Aiyuk leaving SF. Obviously, he's currently in a great situation as a Super Bowl contender an an offensive minded head coach. But he clearly is considering going to another team where he could make more money. If you're Brandon Aiyuk, how much more money per year would you...

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[Joe Bryant]

Totally disagree. He had the NFL.com and Sirius broadcasts shook at the draft with picks before they knew them.

There are plenty of guys out there doing fake stuff.

They'll never admit it of course but this guy has the ear of serious reporters.

But totally disregard him if you like.

Ok, fair - I just saw a lot of folks I respect point to him having a spotty track record, but if you’re willing to stake your reputation on him, that means a lot. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

I'm not staking my reputation on him. I'm saying he's a guy serious reporters listen to.

He'll for SURE miss plenty when the game is getting things super early before anyone else has them.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He'll for SURE miss plenty when the game is getting things super early before anyone else has them.

I think the issue folks have expressed with him isn't that he misses. They all miss.

It’s that he’s been accused of missing plenty, then deleting his misses while puffing his chest out about the ones he gets correct.

I’m honestly not invested in him one way or another, but that sort of thing would keep me from following him.

The only real reason I’m invested is as a Niners fan (and peripherally a Cooper & Deebo shareholder) - so If he’s right about the Steelers, I hope the package is substantial. I’m trying to think of what the Steelers could give SF that makes this a mutual fit & struggling a bit - they’re not deep at WR. They should have a decent 1st round pick, but IMO it would take more than that.

And I’m not convinced the Steelers would 1. Deal their 1st, or 2. Pay Aiyuk ~$30M

Those both seem somewhat un-steeler-like. Maybe a Steelers homer can better shed light on that.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Those both seem somewhat un-steeler-like. Maybe a Steelers homer can better shed light on that.

Typically un-Steeler like...but they typically dont have a full QB room costing around a dollar fifty. Uncharted territory here, imo

 

[massraider]

Schefter said PIT isn't out

 

[msudaisy26]

I forgot about Allen Robinson twice with Blake Bortles and Mitch Trunisky.

Now do Terry McLaurin

You do it. I am making the case for him. I said I might move him up. I haven't made a decision yet because the deal isn't done.

Aiyuk is a way better receiver THAN Mclaurin. Hope that helps.

I don't think Aiyuk is as talented as OBJ, Brandon Marshall or Steve Smith. Yet, you sure counted those. So the talent levels don't have to be equal when the comparison favors Aiyuk, but we sure care about it when it undermines "making the case" for him.

It's a very disingenuous argument. It's certainly not compelling.

Then don't reply, you don't get to tell me my argument isn't sincere.

It's not.

You're cherry picking the good situations that agree with you.
You're ignoring the bad ones that don't agree with you.

That's a bad faith argument.

That doesn't do anyone any good or help anyone be better at fantasy football.

If you want to ignore the facts and just say "I like Aiyuk and I don't care what you say" then just say that. Stop throwing out bad faith arguments and acting like you're backing up your view point with facts.

It's funny that you are saying he is cherry picking when you keep coming back to Moore. I'd say Moore is the more rare one. Usually a player as good as Moore would get more targets.

I also offered up McLaurin?

Who was the #1 for the NYG last year? How did they do?

How about Garrett Wilson? Bad team. Terrible QB situation. Has he been an elite WR so far?

Broncos were pretty bad last year. Sutton DID have 10 TD's, but the targets, receptions, and yards were so few he still finished as WR36. Jeudy was a nothing.

Drake London was a really talented WR on a bad offense with a bad QB situation. Elite WR?

We're going back to the days of Blake Bortles and Muhsin Muhammad to make the case for Aiyuk succeeding. I'm giving you players from 2023.

No we aren't. You are just being difficult. How about Pickens, Cooper, Thielan, Pittman, Adams, DJ Moore?

All good last year with bad qb play on bad offenses.

 

[Lansdowne]

Schefter said PIT isn't out

Deep down this really felt like a ploy to get the Steelers to up their bid, and that's probably where this is headed now. I already expressed my doubts earlier that he'd be coming to New England so I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop at this point.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Someone mentioned Pitt because of how cheap their QB room is. Seems like a team that can at least slightly overpay to get him there.

 

[jm192]

I forgot about Allen Robinson twice with Blake Bortles and Mitch Trunisky.

Now do Terry McLaurin

You do it. I am making the case for him. I said I might move him up. I haven't made a decision yet because the deal isn't done.

Aiyuk is a way better receiver THAN Mclaurin. Hope that helps.

I don't think Aiyuk is as talented as OBJ, Brandon Marshall or Steve Smith. Yet, you sure counted those. So the talent levels don't have to be equal when the comparison favors Aiyuk, but we sure care about it when it undermines "making the case" for him.

It's a very disingenuous argument. It's certainly not compelling.

Then don't reply, you don't get to tell me my argument isn't sincere.

It's not.

You're cherry picking the good situations that agree with you.
You're ignoring the bad ones that don't agree with you.

That's a bad faith argument.

That doesn't do anyone any good or help anyone be better at fantasy football.

If you want to ignore the facts and just say "I like Aiyuk and I don't care what you say" then just say that. Stop throwing out bad faith arguments and acting like you're backing up your view point with facts.

It's funny that you are saying he is cherry picking when you keep coming back to Moore. I'd say Moore is the more rare one. Usually a player as good as Moore would get more targets.

I also offered up McLaurin?

Who was the #1 for the NYG last year? How did they do?

How about Garrett Wilson? Bad team. Terrible QB situation. Has he been an elite WR so far?

Broncos were pretty bad last year. Sutton DID have 10 TD's, but the targets, receptions, and yards were so few he still finished as WR36. Jeudy was a nothing.

Drake London was a really talented WR on a bad offense with a bad QB situation. Elite WR?

We're going back to the days of Blake Bortles and Muhsin Muhammad to make the case for Aiyuk succeeding. I'm giving you players from 2023.

No we aren't. You are just being difficult. How about Pickens, Cooper, Thielan, Pittman, Adams, DJ Moore?

All good last year with bad qb play on bad offenses.

You're moving the goal posts.

Before it was "Aiyuk on the Pats has an easy path to 100 catches, 1400 yards, and 8 TD's."

Now it's "He could be Theilen--who admittedly hit the 100 catches--but to the tune of 1,000 yards and 4 TD's.
Pittman hit 109 catches--for 1100 yards and 4 TD's
Pickens had 63 for 1,140 and 5 TD's
I offered up Carolina DJ Moore several times myself.

The people you are using now are very realistic numbers for Aiyuk in New England. Surely you realize Pickens, Thielen, Pittman aren't OBJ and Brandon Marshall

So, which is it?

Can Aiyuk be Prime OBJ? Or Can Aiyuk be 2023 George Pickens/Thielen/Pittman?

Cuz I sure do think he can be 2023 Adam Theilen. I doubt 100 receptions. But I think 1,000 and 4 is very much in play. I think 1,100 and 5 is in play.

 

[menobrown]

Someone mentioned Pitt because of how cheap their QB room is. Seems like a team that can at least slightly overpay to get him there.

The problem is the QB room is cheap for just this year and then no one is under contract.

That's one of several reasons why this Steelers fan is hoping they don't land him. Feel like we'll just end up like the Raiders situation they are in now.

 

[Joe Bryant]

This could be a sign that Cooper isn't going anywhere. But it's also the Browns.

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#Browns WR Amari Cooper is in pads practicing today.

 

[Joe Bryant]

"Former"?

Slip? We'll see.

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Christian McCaffrey refers to Brandon Aiyuk as a “former teammate”

 

[osubuckeyeman]

This feels like a move, not to make a move.

BA is reported not to want to play for the two teams with the trade framework completed. This could also be a move to get other teams involved to compensate the Niners a bit more: the Steelers and Commandos.

 

[Deamon]

This whole thing is stupid.

 

[Lansdowne]

This whole thing is stupid.

Something we can all agree on.

 

[Joe Bryant]

This whole thing is stupid.

How so?

 

[TheWinz]

"Former"?

Slip? We'll see.

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Christian McCaffrey refers to Brandon Aiyuk as a “former teammate”

Freudian slips are usually accurate

 

[Chaka]

"Former"?

Slip? We'll see.

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Christian McCaffrey refers to Brandon Aiyuk as a “former teammate”

Freudian slips are usually accurate

Shut up, Mom!

 

[Faust]

Paying big for 49ers WR Brandon Aiyuk — whether it's the Browns, Patriots or Steelers — is worth it

 

[osubuckeyeman]

I see a lot of folks bagging on BA. He is very underpaid for the position. I understand contracts are contracts, but I can not fault players for trying to get their money. The owners are free to have no loyalty to players and show it in many ways. I do not like all the tactics agents and players use, but I understand it. That said, if I am in the position. I mean the absolute decision-maker position. I'm not trading him for anything less than an overpay. I would let his agent handle the contract part for BA. If they have trade compensation worked out with two teams, then what is the hold-up? I don't believe the reports that the compensation has been worked out because if you have worked out the compensation, the contract should be something you have already agreed with in theory. It's no secret what the numbers are to satisfy Aiyuk's camp. A deal should be done by now.

 

[Lansdowne]

Schefter said PIT isn't out

Deep down this really felt like a ploy to get the Steelers to up their bid, and that's probably where this is headed now. I already expressed my doubts earlier that he'd be coming to New England so I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop at this point.

And there it is:

Per Adam Schefter:
Sources: After inquiring about Brandon Aiyuk’s availability, the Patriots have decided not to explore any further trade possibilities with the 49ers regarding their standout wide receiver. Patriots are excited about their young receivers and want to focus on them.

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Lots of copium on that last sentence. Apparently the Pats were willing to pay him over $30m/yr but he didn’t want to play for them. So there goes that.

 

[Faust]

Evan Lazar
My read: Aiyuk didn’t want to come to New England. The #Patriots need a good year with real development at QB (Maye) to sell a star receiver like Aiyuk on coming here. It’s unfortunate, but it’s where they’re at.

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[Hot Sauce Guy]

There’s no Cinderella fit here.

Aiyuk will be a 49er.

Unless the Browns overpay in every sense of the term.

 

[Ray_T]

There’s no Cinderella fit here.

Aiyuk will be a 49er.

Unless the Browns overpay in every sense of the term.

its the Browns. of course they will overpay.

and then his career will spiral down. its the way of the Browns. (joking mostly)

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

There’s no Cinderella fit here.

Aiyuk will be a 49er.

Unless the Browns overpay in every sense of the term.

its the Browns. of course they will overpay.

and then his career will spiral down. its the way of the Browns. (joking mostly)

I’m still stuck wondering if Watson can throw a spiral.

 

[Ray_T]

There’s no Cinderella fit here.

Aiyuk will be a 49er.

Unless the Browns overpay in every sense of the term.

its the Browns. of course they will overpay.

and then his career will spiral down. its the way of the Browns. (joking mostly)

I’m still stuck wondering if Watson can throw a spiral.

you know the answer to that. lol I'm not saying any more.

 

[Soulfly3]

Well... I thought there was about a 1% chance he'd be a Brown, but I guess that's probably moved up to 5% now.

 

[Joe Bryant]

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The Patriots had an agreement in place with the 49ers and a large offer to Aiyuk on the table, but he did not show interest in going there.

I don’t buy that fully from Maiocco. You don’t casually set up trade deal structure that complicated 30 days before kickoff and have it in place if you’re not interested.

I’d assume Aiyuk was very interested and when the details clarified he decided the Patriots offer wasn’t enough money.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Well... I thought there was about a 1% chance he'd be a Brown, but I guess that's probably moved up to 5% now.

Just doesn't make sense to me. Both Cooper and Jeudy have big-ish contracts.

 

[Soulfly3]

Well... I thought there was about a 1% chance he'd be a Brown, but I guess that's probably moved up to 5% now.

Just doesn't make sense to me. Both Cooper and Jeudy have big-ish contracts.

apparently cooper is part of the deal going to SF. haven't heard otherwise, and also from what I read, CLE eats that 20M for cooper if he's traded, so gives SF some more flexibility too.

but again, i dont see it

 

[Boston]

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The Patriots had an agreement in place with the 49ers and a large offer to Aiyuk on the table, but he did not show interest in going there.

I don’t buy that fully from Maiocco. You don’t casually set up trade deal structure that complicated 30 days before kickoff and have it in place if you’re not interested.

I’d assume Aiyuk was very interested and when the details clarified he decided the Patriots offer wasn’t enough money.

Hate to say it but I feel like the Pats are just being used here…probably by both parties….8 years ago they would somehow get Aiyuk for a 4th round pick and pay him 10 mil a year but those days are long gone.

 

[TheWinz]

Well... I thought there was about a 1% chance he'd be a Brown, but I guess that's probably moved up to 5% now.

Just doesn't make sense to me. Both Cooper and Jeudy have big-ish contracts.

apparently cooper is part of the deal going to SF. haven't heard otherwise, and also from what I read, CLE eats that 20M for cooper if he's traded, so gives SF some more flexibility too.

but again, i dont see it

I know jack squat about contracts, but why would CLE send Cooper to SF in exchange for Aiyuk, and spend $50M doing so? I mean, that's basically what happens, right? They pay Cooper $20M and pay Aiyuk $30M?

 

[Blick]

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The Patriots had an agreement in place with the 49ers and a large offer to Aiyuk on the table, but he did not show interest in going there.

I don’t buy that fully from Maiocco. You don’t casually set up trade deal structure that complicated 30 days before kickoff and have it in place if you’re not interested.

I’d assume Aiyuk was very interested and when the details clarified he decided the Patriots offer wasn’t enough money.

Hate to say it but I feel like the Pats are just being used here…probably by both parties….8 years ago they would somehow get Aiyuk for a 4th round pick and pay him 10 mil a year but those days are long gone.

I think everyone is being used by SF to get Aiyuk to understand his real value.

 

[-OZ-]

why would CLE

A great question asked often over the years.
But it seems really doubtful that they’d even have the space to do that.

 

[Soulfly3]

Well... I thought there was about a 1% chance he'd be a Brown, but I guess that's probably moved up to 5% now.

Just doesn't make sense to me. Both Cooper and Jeudy have big-ish contracts.

apparently cooper is part of the deal going to SF. haven't heard otherwise, and also from what I read, CLE eats that 20M for cooper if he's traded, so gives SF some more flexibility too.

but again, i dont see it

I know jack squat about contracts, but why would CLE send Cooper to SF in exchange for Aiyuk, and spend $50M doing so? I mean, that's basically what happens, right? They pay Cooper $20M and pay Aiyuk $30M?

I guess they see it as getting a younger Cooper on a "fair" deal before the market starts/continues to get wilder for players in and around his calibre.

I don't think they actually are on the hook for the 20M, i think the cap hit of 20M is theirs.