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The man plays hard and is a much better route runner than you'd think. just like last week he took just about all the 11 personnel snaps, playing 62 of 69 snaps and ran a route on 40 of them. There's plenty of room on the Jameis Winston Experience, and he's shown he can support multiple players on O if the OC/coach let him throw.
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looks pretty special to me and i always thought he was the best WR in Tenn (over Hyatt). Can really be a monster down the stretch with Winston’s gunslinger mentality
Hey, I took TIllman over Dell in rookie drafts last year, so believe me when I tell you, I am dying---DYING, for him to pan out. I have a few conversations with my fellow owners last season I would looooove to revisit. Poor old massraider got dunked on in the league chat a little bit last year
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Dude, you are going to have some tough decisions for the balance of the season. Tillman had a great day and in about half of those calls you were on the wrong side. I suspect you had a great week overall so congrats.
Was just thinking this as I was scrolling through the thread and watching some highlights. Maybe breaking out 1 year earlier than Nico too.
There are only 2 examples up there where I came up on the wrong side, not "about half". I got 28.9 out of Tillman and Otton put up 33.6 so that is one. The other is 28.9 v 29.1 (McConkey) hardly the wrong side.
My mistake, had the scoring wrong for Pitts.
not hard to do, there were lots of points yesterday everywhere
Trade for or trade away in dynasty? I could see a case for both.
Whoops that was some awful wording by me. I would sell in dynasty.
I would agree, not sure his value goes much higher after the last two weeks of good production.
Probably not, but if he blows up a third time, that could really make some think that this guy could be the goods long-term considering the rest of the roster and that WR may not be a position of need for the team next year.
More downside than upside imo. Winston has always been historically great for receiver production and I doubt he is around next year as the starter. Their schedule will be tougher going forward as well so his value has a chance to lower considerably over the next four games. Dice roll either way as most of these situations are. If I can use him as a throw-in for an upgrade somewhere I would consider.
Fair point. Next year is a different story and for all we know they will continue on with Watson given the massive financial commitment.
Yep. And anyway, what are you even selling for? This guy was on waivers just a few weeks ago in my dynasty league. I fortunately snagged him up before his first big game but I’m not moving him for a random 3rd or something right now. And I doubt you’re going to get offered much more than that because people are still going to think it’s a fluke, lightning in a bottle, Jameis affect etc
Fair points. The kid definitely seems to have talent - the question will remain why he showed absolutely nothing up until the past few weeks. Granted he had some incumbents ahead of him who, by way of obvious viability (Cooper) or draft capital/money (Jeudy and Moore) were blocking him, but it does create some skepticism that he's another guy (not unlike Jalen Coker) who just popped for a few games before heading back to mediocrity.
Did Moore or Jeudy show anything until the last couple of weeks? He has spent his entire career with the Browns version of Deshaun Watson. And in his first two games with a new opportunity, he's seized it. No guarantee of continued success, but more likely than someone who randomly throws up two good weeks with no change to the situation around them.
Fully agree. Clearly the situation has improved the results of Moore and Jeudy as well. What will be interesting to see if Tillman can separate himself from those two lackluster incumbents.
I always had a soft spot for Moore and his thought he would be a slot machine in PPR. I still think once they face the upcoming tougher defenses that Moore will be the most consistent option. Time will tell. I hold Cedric so hope he continues to show.
not actually true - he had lots of buzz this offseason. some noticed some didn't. but when cooper got traded and watson got hurt, this became the perfect recipe. 3rd round capital 2nd year receivers that get positive press should *always* get our attention.
Nope.
From what I understand, Moore is exclusively in the slot. Cedric took over for Cooper as the X, which fits more with where Winston has historically favored, no?
In theory that’s my understanding as well. I posted earlier that they will start facing some tougher defenses and think Tillman will regress a bit. What do I know though?
Sure, I don't think Tillman will repeat this week every week. Chubb doesn't seem to have improved the run game, so I'm optimistic for a guy who could see 8-10 targets a game from a gunslinger.
For now, I agree, Shakir is a pretty solid PPR option. Not sure why he only played 58% of snaps though, last week, to Colemans 83%
If Tee Higgins doesn't play I will play him. If he pops off again I am benching DJ Moore for him moving forward.
