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WR Dontayvion Wicks, GB (4 Viewers)
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He has a 24% target share per route run in his brief career.
He barely left the field after Watson went out yesterday.
Insein
Footballguy
That's the key. He has the opportunity. It's up to him to capitalize on it.
rockaction
Footballguy
Time to let the needle drop into the groove and see what we've got here.
Yes, I used drop on purpose.
And let all the fly skimmers hear (feel?) the beat . . . mmmmmm drop
Yes, I used drop on purpose.
And let all the fly skimmers hear (feel?) the beat . . . mmmmmm drop
Insein
Footballguy
Well if he keeps body moving into the end zone each week, he'll be fine.
massraider
Footballguy
If a true alpha does emerge from the team, I am purposely trying to not pick a guy, because then I start twisting what is going on to what I want the outcome to be.
Everyone here is sooooo young. Kraft or Musgrave could turn into a top target, develop into a stud TE, hurting their volume.
Look at Nico Collins. This time last year, no one thought he was a lock for WR1. 4 weeks into this year, and what does everyone think? He's the man. Whatever else Diggs/Tank do, he's the man. That's the betting favorite for that role, in that offense.
All these WRs are the same age or younger, than Collins was last year. Watson is the same age, and he's the only guy I am pretty sure is not a 150 target guy.
One year from now, it should not surprise anyone if Doubs, Reed, or Wicks is seen as the alpha. If I had to bet on someone, it may be Doubs at this point, but I own all three, in one form or another.
Everyone here is sooooo young. Kraft or Musgrave could turn into a top target, develop into a stud TE, hurting their volume.
Look at Nico Collins. This time last year, no one thought he was a lock for WR1. 4 weeks into this year, and what does everyone think? He's the man. Whatever else Diggs/Tank do, he's the man. That's the betting favorite for that role, in that offense.
All these WRs are the same age or younger, than Collins was last year. Watson is the same age, and he's the only guy I am pretty sure is not a 150 target guy.
One year from now, it should not surprise anyone if Doubs, Reed, or Wicks is seen as the alpha. If I had to bet on someone, it may be Doubs at this point, but I own all three, in one form or another.
zoonation
Footballguy
It’s Reed
fatness
Footballguy
He's that other guy in the show with Tony Kornheiser, right? He's old and slow.
Insein
Footballguy
Close enough
Insein
Footballguy
Play both
I watched all of his targets and Love threw a few balls right on the carpet and this kid almost came up with two of them for catches. He had one wide open drop that likely would have been a stroll into the end zone. He could have easily wound up with 3 TDs.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I believe you've quoted a post by @rockaction from week 1. Agree that Wicks could easily have had 3 td's this past week but for a bad drop.
BespokeJort
Footballguy
he also had another hit him right in the chest in the end zone iirc
Honestly one of the worst looking 2-td games I’ve watched but the opportunity looks juicy
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Gimme Doubs all day and twice on Sunday...
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
Similar stat lines for all of last year too. I think Doubs is a much better football player than a fantasy contributor.
He had a bad day and put up 25 pts. Now imagine he has a good day.
I'm guessing he missed getting Wicks.
Real Football or Fantasy Football?
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Nah, I have both. Me just being snarky and sarcastic. I guess I just have more of a comfort level with Doubs in a starting role, although I have started both (we have large starting rosters, can go up to 5 WRs) and have enjoyed the production.
I believe Matt Harmon said Doubs is solid but nothing special in his analysis.
When Wicks is on the field he has a 24% target share to Doubs 16%. In last 6 games without Watson, Wicks has an avg 12.5 ppr points. Plus he leads Packers in red zone and end zone targets.
Thanks for reply, I was really just trying to make a joke.Nah, I have both. Me just being snarky and sarcastic. I guess I just have more of a comfort level with Doubs in a starting role, although I have started both (we have large starting rosters, can go up to 5 WRs) and have enjoyed the production.
But the case against Doubs is he was already playing almost every snap. So in theory the only thing he gains by Watson being out is picking up any possible targets he gains by Watson being out, and he'll have to contend with Wicks for those and it was not a huge pie to be split up.
He's solid, but just the tiniest uptick IMO.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
yep, I get itThanks for reply, I was really just trying to make a joke.Nah, I have both. Me just being snarky and sarcastic. I guess I just have more of a comfort level with Doubs in a starting role, although I have started both (we have large starting rosters, can go up to 5 WRs) and have enjoyed the production.
But the case against Doubs is he was already playing almost every snap. So in theory the only thing he gains by Watson being out is picking up any possible targets he gains by Watson being out, and he'll have to contend with Wicks for those and it was not a huge pie to be split up.
He's solid, but just the tiniest uptick IMO.
massraider
Footballguy
beef
Footballguy
Packers WR Dontayvion Wicks leads NFL in creating separation
Hype and potential is real. Clean up the drops...
Hype and potential is real. Clean up the drops...
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
JLove, throw better passes.
Insein
Footballguy
I love Wicks upside but he's dropping balls right in his hands. He needs to fix that.
Only had 2 drops last year. This year, 3 so far.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Maybe we are thinking about the drops too much b/c, it sure seems Jordan Love doesn't care, right? This guy barely plays all year and the minute he gets significant playing time its like Love was waiting for him to get out there all season and peppers him with 13 targets. If he keeps it up to a point its so bad, it won't matter b/c the coaches will bench him. But as long as he is out there, to me, he has high WR2 potential every week.
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FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
3 of those drops were because Love threw the ball in the dirt .. Wicks looked like a shortstop trying to scoop up a ground ball for crying out loud.
beef
Footballguy
If a pass isn't catchable it's just a target and incomplete, not a drop. It's not just the two drops he had last week. He didn't finish on a couple other incompletes and was 0-for-3 on contested catches. Love plays a role in that too, but Wicks has a lot of room to grow and improve.
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He's also scraping them off the ground. He's made some easy catches look hard and some hard catches look easy.
massraider
Footballguy
But those last year weren't on Red Zone.
These ones were, so they count. Sorry buddy that's the way it works
Impressive stats, but these kind of numbers tend to seem incomplete for me. I always wonder about the quality of the competition. Is Wicks going against starting CBs or against nickel CBs and safeties? Especially since he just made the cutoff with only 28 opportunities. It would be great to know how many of those were against starting CBs.
Not to derail the topic...but Olave being a close 2nd is impressive. I doubt he's being covered by backups a lot, and have to imagine he has more opportunities.
*Crickets* Anybody know?
After Watson’s injury, Wicks took over as the starting wide receiver opposite Doubs. Wicks rarely left the field. Bo Melton became the primary backup wide receiver. This had a minor impact on Doubs’ playing time and had no impact on Jayden Reed’s playing time. Reed continues to play only in three-receiver sets and has yet to play in a two-wide receiver set this season.
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
Thank you for the information. This is very important to know. Wicks has an opportunity here to be a positive game changer for us. Christian Watson may be Wally Pipped.
I don't know exact numbers but he only has lined up in the slot on 33% of his snaps so I'd imagine he's seeing a heavy does of starting CB's.
If he’s out will be difficult to sit wicks.
Insein
Footballguy
This right here has all those stats if you'd like to pay. It breaks down percentage of snaps by formation, down, distance, etc. it's a great tool but it's like $100 for a year.
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zamboni
Footballguy
The author Dwain “The Rock” McFarland is one of the best in the business.This right here has all those stats if you'd like to pay. It breaks down percentage of snaps by formation, down, distance, etc. it's a great tool but it's like $100 for a year.
Fantasy Life's Utilization Game Log Report
Use Fantasy Life's Utilization Game Log Report to dive into player utilization data on a game-by-game basis.www.fantasylife.com
