And as I said, smart drafters dont let him slip to the 6th.
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WR Gabriel Davis, Free Agent (1 Viewer)
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Deamon
Footballguy
He'll make it to you in the 5th.
Possible... not sure I wanna risk it. We will see
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This happens in the high stakes leagues as well. They sort by ranking by default, but many drafters sort by ADP. And that means you get a snowball effect - drafters scroll down and see Davis only a few names down on the list, and reach for him, disregarding that other positions aren't included. The more it happens, the earlier he goes.
Home leagues you have a bunch of folks with paper. My league is about 60-40 draft software to paper, but most draft software is pulling ADP from multiple sources, as compared to the HS leagues that pull ADP from their own drafts.
It's a flaw for sure.
Deamon
Footballguy
Hmmm... So according to you, @Hot Sauce Guy @C-Bound @VikingFrog @[Icon] @Insein @TVT 0 N S T A are all stupid drafters for letting him slip into the 6th. Got it.
I wouldnt call them stupid. I would call them lucky
Deamon
Footballguy
But weren't they "not smart" to pass on him in the 5th? You said smart drafters don't let him slip to the 6th, and all of those people let him slip into the 6th.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I still can't get over the fact that his beard is trimmed to resemble testicles on his face.
ETA: not saying it's deliberate, but it is uncanny.
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Do you know who else slipped to the 6th round?
Tom Brady. And that's the rest of the story.
Tom Brady. And that's the rest of the story.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
judging by all the green stripes on this page, it seems someone continues to obsessively mention me. And is apparently calling me stupid. Weird.
1. he almost went 5.04,
2. he made it back to me in the 6th. But at the time (the 5th round) I had 3 WR on my team (rounds 1, 3, & 4) and I wasn't going to pass on AJ Dillon for a 4th WR, since ADJ was one of my favorite targets.
3. It's an IDP league, so in round 5 people start taking IDP-ers. It's a lot easier to miss a value pick at a position like WR when there are 7 high scoring positions as opposed to D/ST teams where there's only 4 skill positions to watch (and QB & TE don't really have that many options to distract folks from)
It worked out great. But if I'd taken a TE with one of my first 4 picks and needed a WR3, I absolutely would have taken him at 5.05 instead of 6.08
But it was indeed lucky.
I would say I absolutely got very lucky, as
1. he almost went 5.04,
2. he made it back to me in the 6th. But at the time (the 5th round) I had 3 WR on my team (rounds 1, 3, & 4) and I wasn't going to pass on AJ Dillon for a 4th WR, since ADJ was one of my favorite targets.
3. It's an IDP league, so in round 5 people start taking IDP-ers. It's a lot easier to miss a value pick at a position like WR when there are 7 high scoring positions as opposed to D/ST teams where there's only 4 skill positions to watch (and QB & TE don't really have that many options to distract folks from)
It worked out great. But if I'd taken a TE with one of my first 4 picks and needed a WR3, I absolutely would have taken him at 5.05 instead of 6.08
But it was indeed lucky.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I love you so much.
Deamon
Footballguy
You keep calling people obsessive but do the same thing in the Watson thread and other threads that you tell people you'll quote them later in the year. Yikes.
And it was Jobarules that called you stupid, not me. But hey, keep 'obsessing over me'
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It's better with the ignore feature.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Luck is the collision of preparation and opportunity!
But, I drafted Jeudy in the 4th, so I don’t mind being called stupid.
I have no clue who was available to them in their drafts dude. I wasnt there.
Deamon
Footballguy
Ok. So now you take it back and some people depending on who was there, could have been smart for letting him slip into round 6.
Got it. That's much better.
********. Youre the one tagging people. Apparently this has been a thing with you all along. Ill move on.You keep calling people obsessive but do the same thing in the Watson thread and other threads that you tell people you'll quote them later in the year. Yikes.
And it was Jobarules that called you stupid, not me. But hey, keep 'obsessing over me'
Wow you are obsessive
Deamon
Footballguy
lol well you did say the Jeudy pick was a mistake and done out of panic.
But yes, you getting Gabe in the 6th, after his ADP, was great. I got him after ADP too and I'm sure we are both glad we didn't reach
Deamon
Footballguy
Yes, I tagged the people that you called stupid for letting him slide into the 6th. Just take accountability for your aggressive words, yikes, triggered much?********. Youre the one tagging people. Apparently this has been a thing with you all along. Ill move on.You keep calling people obsessive but do the same thing in the Watson thread and other threads that you tell people you'll quote them later in the year. Yikes.
And it was Jobarules that called you stupid, not me. But hey, keep 'obsessing over me'
VikingFrog
Footballguy
If Jeudy becomes THE WR1.lol well you did say the Jeudy pick was a mistake and done out of panic.
But yes, you getting Gabe in the 6th, after his ADP, was great. I got him after ADP too and I'm sure we are both glad we didn't reach
We are not going to call it a mistake. We are going to call it LUCKY.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He was taken before Sutton in my league.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
@Rams, TN, @Mia, @bal, PIT, @KC
Not exactly a cream puff schedule to start the season, most of those teams have 1 and 2 guys that are lock down types, he won't just be roaming free on every play.
And countdown until we read posts with folks complaining in the middle of live games how he's not being targeted enough.
He does have an elite QB and and elite WR lining up across from him.
Congrats, you found James Lofton(Bills Era) or Alvin Harper or any numerous second fiddles in high octane offenses. It's possible he vaults over 1,000 yds and 10 TD, longer season, more opp to eclipse them.
Not exactly a cream puff schedule to start the season, most of those teams have 1 and 2 guys that are lock down types, he won't just be roaming free on every play.
And countdown until we read posts with folks complaining in the middle of live games how he's not being targeted enough.
He does have an elite QB and and elite WR lining up across from him.
Congrats, you found James Lofton(Bills Era) or Alvin Harper or any numerous second fiddles in high octane offenses. It's possible he vaults over 1,000 yds and 10 TD, longer season, more opp to eclipse them.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He’ll have 7 TD after those 6 games, or my name isn’t Rufus T. Featherbottom!
LawFitz
Footballguy
Few will admit it, but I suspect those who are willing to take him ahead of what already seems like a lofty ADP for a #2 WR on his own team are quietly imagining him being the 1B or even eclipsing Diggs this year as the 1A. For me at least, I can close my eyes, sniff some glue and easily imagine that upside.
Cheers, and welcome to the wonder of annual fantasy hype players. Sometimes they turn into Arian Foster. Sometimes they turn into Deshaun Foster. But they are the funnest part of this game, IMO. Join the ride with us. Or don't.
Both of you stop doing this and ruining threads.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
75/1100/14
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
I'm not going to overdraft a guy on a hunch. It's literally the crux of fantasy mediocrity. I missed on Davis and was absolutely on my radar in the 5th and 6th (took Zeke and Brandin Cooks instead). Zeke in the 5th was crazy value and Cooks was a low floor WR that I felt my team needed with Waddle already selected 4th round.
I try not to get too fixated on a specific player, where I lose sight of value staring at me. Is Gabe Davis better than Cooks? Possibly, but Cooks seemed like a safe starter and if Zeke wasn't there, I was fully ready to go Cooks, Davis at the turn...
Not a knock on Davis as he has tremendous upside but I just had players valued higher and felt I could afford risks in different rounds (or took risks in rounds prior). Hell, I took Adams 2.01 because I just don't see the 100 point swing from his valuation and past production...
With that said, I really think we should sit back and say the flag has been planted on Gabriel Davis and he could be a league winning WR that I didn't get... but everyone is different and that's what makes the league/hobby fun.
ETA: I am not one to chase perceived value and I still very much think Diggs is "the guy" in Buffalo. I'll chase upside in Round 8 and beyond, but I basically want my starters keyed in prior to chasing upside.
Just the way I draft... not indicative on the player Davis could be, because we are still waiting for kickoff.
I try not to get too fixated on a specific player, where I lose sight of value staring at me. Is Gabe Davis better than Cooks? Possibly, but Cooks seemed like a safe starter and if Zeke wasn't there, I was fully ready to go Cooks, Davis at the turn...
Not a knock on Davis as he has tremendous upside but I just had players valued higher and felt I could afford risks in different rounds (or took risks in rounds prior). Hell, I took Adams 2.01 because I just don't see the 100 point swing from his valuation and past production...
With that said, I really think we should sit back and say the flag has been planted on Gabriel Davis and he could be a league winning WR that I didn't get... but everyone is different and that's what makes the league/hobby fun.
ETA: I am not one to chase perceived value and I still very much think Diggs is "the guy" in Buffalo. I'll chase upside in Round 8 and beyond, but I basically want my starters keyed in prior to chasing upside.
Just the way I draft... not indicative on the player Davis could be, because we are still waiting for kickoff.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I consider it a greater than zero possibility, but only recently started sniffing glu-er, no, only recently started believing it was on the spectfum of outcomes when the coach said something to the effect that the 4 TD playoff game wasn't a fluke, and described Davis as a 1B kinda guy.
But realistically I drafted him as a flex player hoping for WR2 upside.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Yeah I mean my thesis in January was basically that he would be overpriced in redraft despite how much I believe in him. That take hasn't changed. I'm still waiting for the big stakes draft where he falls to the late 5th or even into the 6th but it just isn't happening. A new draft is kicking off rn and we'll see where he goes.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hi, one of the biggest Davis honks on the forum. He's dreamy.
That said, I'd melt my keyboard accepting this if I'm the Gabe Davis shareholder. Upgrade to Chase for Davus + picks?
Did you a favor by rejecting it.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Every high stakes draft I've seen he's gone in the top 4 rounds. Every one. One in the late 3rd. Everyone wants to hit the jackpot on the breakout star.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
This.
He’s my WR3/Flex in both of my main leagues and he can be drafted there at a reasonable pick. And in one of those leagues I went RB/RB and the other WR/RB.
I’d be worried if he was my WR1 because there’s a lot of questions to answer. But he’s got rocketship upside if he’s sitting in your flex or 2 spot.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I'd take every WR who's ADP is 3rd or 4th round over Davis.
And did just that last Sat.
But I'd take Davis over quite a few of the 5th round WRs. Better a WR3 or Flex than a WR2.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
5.01 (not mine)
barackdhouse
Footballguy
So I do have to own up about a special rule in the FPC that I totally forgot to mention, and it may very well be driving his ADP higher than usual - the fact that the Bills play the Rams on TNF and that the FPC drafts going thru that Sat night... every manager gets to retroactively set their lineup re:TNF and so it may be worth reaching for a guy like that because you can choose to bench him after seeing the results of TNF. Some other national tourneys do it the same as well.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
2021
TB
Evans 1,046/14
Godwin1,103/5
LAC
M.Williams 1,146/9
K.Allen 1,138/6
CIN
T.Higgins 1,091/6
J.Chase 1,455/13
2020
KC
T.Kelce 1,416/11
T.Hill 1,276/15
Sea
DK Metcalf 1,303/10
Tyler Lockett 1,054/10
TB
Evans 1,046/14
Godwin1,103/5
LAC
M.Williams 1,146/9
K.Allen 1,138/6
CIN
T.Higgins 1,091/6
J.Chase 1,455/13
2020
KC
T.Kelce 1,416/11
T.Hill 1,276/15
Sea
DK Metcalf 1,303/10
Tyler Lockett 1,054/10
Well just had my draft and he did NOT make it to me in the middle of the 5th. I thought about taking him in the 4th but DJ Moore was there and obviously couldn't pass him. He went early 5th. Frustrating. Oh well
VikingFrog
Footballguy
That’s a real solid spot to grab Moore though. I’ve seen him more of a third round ADP, and I personally think he’s got a great floor with a chance to be a top 5 WR if mayfield stays upright.
MTskibum
Footballguy
I think you misread what side the picks were on.Hi, one of the biggest Davis honks on the forum. He's dreamy.
That said, I'd melt my keyboard accepting this if I'm the Gabe Davis shareholder. Upgrade to Chase and get 1-2-3 next season? Yes please.
Did you a favor by rejecting it.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Oops - yes. FixedI think you misread what side the picks were on.Hi, one of the biggest Davis honks on the forum. He's dreamy.
That said, I'd melt my keyboard accepting this if I'm the Gabe Davis shareholder. Upgrade to Chase and get 1-2-3 next season? Yes please.
Did you a favor by rejecting it.
he offered Chase for Davis + picks.
If I’m the Gabe Davis side I jump on it regaedless. Id pay that for Chase all day
I’m tempted to offer it to the Chase owner in my league.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I take Moore there 100/100 times. Bummer Gabe didn’t make it back. Hope the rest of the draft went well.
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Super King
Footballguy
Wow. I'm a HUGE Gabe-stan. But that's an instant accept.
Super King
Footballguy
Gabe has had all but ONE catch go for a 1st or a TD, according to Pro Football Reference
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Keyboard-meltingly fast.
Super King
Footballguy
Like, how do you not accept that... It's mind-bottling
Super King
Footballguy
This thread is gonna have an aneurysm when Gabe goes off week 1.
I have one more draft coming up. Hopefully there
